Watford fans comments before and after 1-1 draw – Very interesting on Rafa Benitez, Newcastle United and supporters
Watford fans felt hard done by after seeing their team unlucky to lose to Chelsea in midweek.
Facing Newcastle on Saturday, fair to say that ahead of the game the comments suggested the home supporters were ‘quite’ confident.
The general feeling being they were going to hammer a very poor Newcastle United.
The comments after the match are very different (see below), not exactly now believing the Magpies are any great side, BUT a lot of recognition as to the abilities of Rafa Benitez, plus many of the Watford fans accepting that the visiting team weren’t quite as poor as they had imagined.
Not all home supporters of course were quite so generous, especially when it came to the visiting Newcastle team AND fans.
Watford fans comment via their top WFC Forums message board:
‘Newcastle are finding that a large fanbase and history means nothing in the era of television money.’
‘Should be a straight forward win. We usually beat Newcastle, and should have won comfortably at their place. I’ve not seen any improvement in them since then.
Sure, they work hard, but are limited. One of the poorest teams in the Premier League, with the biggest bunch of moaners that follow them around.
Watford 3 Newcastle 1.’
‘We shouldn’t be allowed on the same pitch as these giants. We should know our place…#pygmies.’
‘Not going to be a classic. Newcastle have struggled all season…
They are rather goal shy, and with Holebas, Cathcart and Foster in good form I cannot see them troubling us too much.’
‘This is a very winnable game, we battered them at St James’s Park and you would like to hope that we can’t have such a bad day infront of goal again.’
‘It’ll be a glorious rout with cut throat football as we put them to the sword with flair football. The spray tanned shirtless Geordies crying into their beers on the coach back to Hell a site to behold on MOTD.’
‘3-0 bounce back from the Chelski disappointment.’
‘Should be a pi.. easy victory.
Watford 4-0 Newcastle.’
‘For all his moaning and groaning about “miracles” to keep Toon up, Benitez is far too astute a coach to let this happen, it’s just an unfamiliar role for him I suspect.’
‘Benitez trying to put the owner under pressure to spend money I feel.
Its why all the Newcastle fans love “Rafa the gaffer” – he is on their side and they’d probably get somebody a lot worse if he left.’
‘Just so but it’s a little one dimensional after twenty seven airings Rafa!
‘I have no doubt they wouldn’t get a better boss/coach but I would expect him to behave better than his constant whining. Get on with it man!’
‘Having seen Newcastle’s goal on the telly box, Will Hughes was largely at blame.’
‘He failed to pick up Atsu a couple of times in the first half.’
‘Classic match for this time of year.
Overall, a decent point against a well organised team and some good match fitness for some of our rotation players.
It would have been great to get three points that neither team deserved. But I’m pretty happy with the point.’
‘Squad rotation is fine. And we have the squad to do it with so many fantastic replacements in most positions.
Just not so many in one go.
The management Ballsed the tactics up massively.
Complacency, maybe. Underestimated opposition, definitely.’
‘I don’t think we underestimated the opposition today. Newcastle are a very robust, and at times organised team.
I think Gracia believed without fresh legs we would struggle, and few would argue against most of the players he started today.
Credit where credit is due, and Benitez set his team up perfectly, and looked set for the perfect away result. We will play much better than today and lose, such is the fickle nature of our business.’
‘It’s clear what Doucoure brings to the side. Instant improvement and the side was lifted when he and Deeney came on.’
‘They started with five at the back and we were playing some very good football with Quina pulling the strings.
They then changed to five in midfield and put Diame on Quina and he nullified him by being too physical for him.
When they went ahead, we changed formation to 4-3-3 to try to match them their numbers in the middle – Hughes tucked in alongside Quina and Capoue, Pereyra went to the opposite flank, Success went to the left and Deulofeu played through the middle.
Sadly, that was even more disjointed so we switched back again after half time but at least Gracia reacted to Benitez’s tactical change and going behind.’
‘Pleased with a point. Newcastle are decent away, and don’t concede many.’
‘They literally lost 4-0 away 3 days go…’
‘Before they played at Liverpool, only Liverpool & City had conceded fewer away than Newcastle.
Very organised & disciplined in defence.’
‘A lacklustre, somewhat poor, performance. Javi experimenting with squad rotation meant we didn’t have the sharpness of most games this season. We didn’t lose though and i’ll take a positive from that given the circumstances.’
‘My half-time reaction to this game was that Watford appeared arrogant in their approach. They were expected to win and apparently had the game by the scruff of the neck for the first quarter hour or so. But chances were missed (Del) and the game slowed down and Watford seemed to think it was just a matter of time. It certainly looked that way.
Newcastle grew more and more into the game and Watford didn’t get back into it until late, by which time I think most of us were grateful for a point.
But, as one or two of you have pointed out, tactical changes were being made throughout the game by both managers.
If you make 6 changes to a team there is always a chance of some disorganisation.
Take a look at Benitez’s CV and you will see it is knocking on the door to phenomenal and , if Gracia lost out in the battle of wits some (and only some ) of the match-time, this is no great disgrace.
Of course, players also have to face up to criticism:
Rondon, who is no great favourite of mine, nevertheless was the best striker out there.’
‘Newcastle tried to do a job on us and that is the type of game we’d have lost last season. Instead had to dig in for a point which isn’t to be sniffed at. Look at the Lesta Cardiff game as an example.’
‘Actually, last season we won this type of game 2-1.’
‘Once again, we kept the opposition down to just a few chances. The main difference was that they had a forward who scores theirs. We didn’t.
We had three virtual one on ones, beating Newcastle’s deep defending, in the first half and missed them all. We had a few more decent chances but yet again, it took another midfielder to score our goal.’
‘Newcastle were bang average and prime for three points, I’d have backed a full strength team to have won that.’
‘Grim match to watch. I was nowhere near drunk enough for that sh… Still, scoring a late equaliser is always nice. No complaints really.’
‘Newcastle away results against teams outside the top 6:
Cardiff D 0-0
Palace D 0-0
Southampton D 0-0
Burnley W 2-1
Everton D 1-1
3 goals conceded in 7 games and unbeaten. It’s only the big teams with all the extra firepower and talent that can break Newcastle down the way that Benitez sets them up.’
‘Overall I’m pleased as punch with a point, because we easily could/should have lost that today. Newcastle will be sore to have let that slip when they were looking so comfortable.’
‘If we can’t beat an awful team like this it’s difficult to know where the next point is coming from.’
‘Newcastle had a game plan, and against any side like this it’s vital to score the first goal. We’ve done that to Cardiff, Huddersfield, Brighton and Palace this season, and went on to win.
Today it was Newcastle that scored, so it makes the game very tough. They have something to defend and they will sit deep and catch you on the break. Rondon and Itsu played well for them today. That’s the first really poor side we’ve not beaten at home this season.’
‘One thing I did enjoy was walking along behind 2 Newcastle fans on Vicarage Road and heard them saying “I don’t mind coming here, decent away day. It’s much better than those horrible shiny, out of town stadiums. Got some character”.’
‘I couldn’t give a f… what some gutter dwelling, knuckle dragging Geordie filth think of us.’
‘Pleased with a point. Newcastle are decent away, and don’t concede many.’
‘Horror show, maybe the worst performance of the season.
Newcastle were just the pits, what a shocking team to have dropped 5 points against.’
‘Newcastle are a better team than they look, if that makes sense.’
‘That was the best I’ve seen Rondon play and they may not have been pretty but they were certainly organised and effective,typical Rafa I suppose.’
‘Pleased with a point at home to one of the worst sides in the league? Small time mindset.’
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