Newcastle 0 West Ham 3  – Saturday 1 December 3pm

We asked a number of our regular writers to give us a brief instant reaction after the final whistle.

Newcastle losing for the first time in five matches, as they finished a poor second to the Hammers.

At least Rafa’s team are still outside the bottom three…

Ben Cooper:

“United didn’t look up for it today.

“Players looked tired, unfit or not particularly bothered. That includes the subs.

“As a team they never looked anywhere near 100% commitment.

“Still created loads of chances, much more than usual, missed them all.

“They took theirs and Hernandez, Arnautovic and Anderson were all very good.

“I suppose that’s what you get for £65million compared to what you get for a tenth of that.”

Jamie Smith:

“Disappointing but a scoreline that flattered the Hammers massively.

“Perez was very costly today, wasting 3 excellent 1st half chances as the game drifted away.

“West Ham were up for it on the counter attack and we got punished for not taking chances.

“People might blame the walk in for the first goal (which is ridiculous btw) but who was orchestrating the walk out with 11 mins to go when the team desperately needed support?”

George Stainsby:

“When Hernandez is in space, or gets the ball, he thinks he’ll score. He doesn’t think he might not.

“So that clinical, certain confidence saves crucial split seconds and instinctively makes decisions.

“That belief costs money.”

Nat Seaton:

“Apart from the first 10 minutes, a disappointing performance, albeit against better opposition than the last three games.

“We lacked anything upfront and defended badly.

“In the end we were well beaten…”

David Punton:

“Miserable weather, miserable result. We’ve been stuffed today.

“Chances came the way of our lot today but they weren’t taken, while Hernandez found his shooting boots, before Anderson put the seal on an emphatic away win for West Ham.

“At 2pm I did wonder why Rafa didn’t stick with the same formation he played away at Burnley. In came Manquillo, for some reason.

“It’s just not worked today and we’ve been in against a club that has comprehensively outspent us over the summer.

“It brings to an end a three game winning run. No other club seems to waste true chance to kick on better than ours.

“The lack of depth in our squad laid bare, and a reminder why some fans want to protest.”

Brian Standen:

“Second best throughout.

“We could easily have gone ahead and had different outcome.

“Perez was unfortunately awful but was not alone!

“Would never criticise Rafa but changing a winning team did not work today with little offered from Manquillo.

“Disappointing but not the end of the world.

“Protest a total waste of time, get behind the team as it won’t be unnoticed West Ham scored on 11 mins.”

Paul Patterson:

“What minute did the first goal go in?

“Note to protesters: if you’re going to protest, stay out completely.

“That was scarily predictable.

“The team were actually doing well up until that moment.

“As for the rest of the 90 minutes…Shambles, beaten by an average side 3-0.”

Jack Lacey-Hatton:

“Simply not good enough.

“Very un-Rafa like defending on all the goals.

“Today is the first time since the Leicester home game since I have been really worried about us.

“Yes it’s only one game but to lose in such a manner is really deflating.

“Maybe a return to 3-5-2 is the way forward?”

Stats from BBC Sport:

Newcastle 0 West Ham 3

Goal:

West Ham: Hernandez 11, 63 Anderson 90+3

Possession was West Ham 41% Newcastle 59%

Total shots were  West Ham 7 Newcastle 16

Shots on target were West Ham 4 Newcastle 4

Corners were  West Ham 3 Newcastle 7

Referee: Paul Tierney

Newcastle United:

Dubravka, Yedlin, Schar, Fernandez, Manquillo, Ritchie (Atsu 54), Diame, Ki, Kenedy (Shelvey 70), Rondon, Perez (Joselu 78)

Unused Subs:

Woodman, Longstaff, Lascelles, Clark

Crowd: 51,853 (West Ham 3,200)

(Damning Alan Shearer verdict HERE)



  • Leicester Mag

    So according to one expert the protest was a waste of time. Thanks to Ashley the last eleven years have been that, as will the next however many years when a 3-0 defeat at home to West Ham becomes the norm. Why the eff is this acceptable?

    • Realist

      The protest was shyte and will never catch on. I seen fans walk past the magpie group outside nine bar telling them to f#k off and what did they do, nowt.

      • benton mag

        Well their a disgrace follow the team when we are winning we follow home and away like everyone should money no object you always find it unless you’re a wimp

        • Realist

          Best times off your life imo. Follow nufc through the good and the bad or don’t follow them at all. I enjoy all times with nufc.

          • TheFatController

            What, 6 derby defeats in a row was enjoyable ?

            3rd round FA cup exits enjoyable?

            Watching Bournemouth Huddersfield Brighton Wolves Watford outspend us is enjoyable?

            Ashley has you in his pocket. Be proud.

          • Realist

            I went to all 6 off them. I agree shocking to be beaten by Sunderland 6 times in a row but still enjoyed other parts of the days. Ashley hasn’t got me in his pocket I would go if Ashley wasn’t there. I’d go if rafa wasn’t there, it makes no difference.

          • TheFatController

            He has you in his pocket, there’s nothing he can now do to the club to disrespect its traditions and you are (bizarrely) blaming protesters for one goal against us, when Ashley is responsible for two relegations, lost ground in commercial income and infrastructure etc

          • Realist

            😂 you quote me when I have said I blame the protesters for the first goal today? You can’t mate cause I haven’t and you know I haven’t, but go on you quote me this will be interesting cause your making up a blatant lie.

          • TheFatController

            You sound like you believe you’re one of life’s victims, always special in how hard done to you are …

          • Realist

            😂🤣😂eh wtf you going on about, more riddles! Never hard done by me mate life is what you make it and I’m content. I asked you a question to quote me what you have accused me off saying, which was saying I blamed the protesters for the first goal which I never did, and you know deep down you were telling a lie there. You knew you had nothing constructive to come back with so reply that😂 I think it’s time you call it a night mate.

          • TheFatController

            A very calm and concise post there. Healthy.

          • Carverlier football

            Would you still go if Ashley sold the entire 1st team and reserves in January, leaving the U18s as the only players available, sacked Rafa and replaced him with Joe Kinnear, sold the training ground leaving the (newly promoted) 1st team to train in a local park, and then released a statement saying “hahaha stick that in your pipe and smoke it you stupid Geordies”? It’s an extreme example, but it’s the thick end of the same wedge we’re on right now. It’d be interesting to know the answer to the question that is often asked on here: “what does Ashley have to do before you’ll take action (or at least stop having a go at those opposing him)?”. Where’s your red line? Maybe you don’t have one – maybe you would still go. Worth having a think about though

          • Realist

            That’s abit far fetched and extreme.

          • Carverlier football

            Yes, as I pointed out. I said that extreme example was the thick end of the wedge. But would you still go? Whereabouts along the wedge is enough enough?

          • Realist

            Yes I would still go even if nufc played in a park with jumpers for goal posts.

          • Realist

            Also our derby defeats were nothing to do with squad quality it was to do with passion, Sunderland wanted it more. We had the likes of ben arfa debuchy sissoko wijnaldum cisse mitrovic santon shelvey jaamat etc. Sunderland had more fight in them not quality.

          • Mung Bean

            “I seen fans walk past the magpie group outside nine bar telling them to f#k off”

            These fans get the owner they deserve.

          • nufcslf

            Yip. Too stupid to realize that Cashley is sticking his fingers up at them and telling them to f**k off now I have your money.

      • Superdooperhooper

        What did you want them to do?

    • grumpyoldmag

      What protest? No evidence where I was sat behind the gallowgate goal. The dampest of squibs

    • nufcslf

      Find it hard to believe how often that was mentioned above. Like the player’s give a f**k about the crowd most of the match anyway. They are doing a job for 90 mins and the place could be empty. Have none of these people played football before, you are focused on the ball not row 7 seat 8. It is more soul destroying that the sheep that do go can’t see the future of the club is in real trouble by financing the stupid fat c**t that is simply laughing at them. Scary stuff and fortunately doesn’t cost me a penny, so carry on.

      • panther

        Well said, these retards have the owner they deserve

        • Realist

          Are you going to come back when times are better. That in my book is a fair weather fan.

          • panther

            I’ve been gone a decade and I will come back when the nightmares over, but don’t try to spin it on me you’re the people keeping him here

          • Realist

            In your opinion but trust me the fans aren’t keeping him there.

          • panther

            I don’t trust you, you’re either a troll or an idiot

          • Realist

            Why do you come to this conclusion? Because my opinion isn’t in line with the majority on here?! 😂 your opinion of me doesnt bother me in the slightest.

          • panther

            So why u crying?

          • panther

            Don’t try and put you’re guilt on me, you’re paying through the nose for it, 20% more than last season

  • TheFatController

    Not sure how some people taking their seats on 11 minutes cost us a goal?

    In the first five minutes of every game there are more late drinkers, tourists and bizarre people wandering around not finding their seats than there were protesters today, yet the team don’t concede.

    Can anyone explain why it happening on 11 minutes makes a difference then …?

    We also didn’t concede when half the crowd left across a 5 minute period between 75 and 80 – why not ? The team get all bamboozled by fans moving around during a game apparently….

    Never let logic and evidence get in the way of good confirmation bias.

    • Paul Patterson

      So coincidence then ..

      • TheFatController

        no, I think it wasn’t coincidence. I think the players had their eye on the minutes, saw 10, and decided to look at the stands and see just how many were filing in.

        Fernandez said to Schar ‘hey, about 10 percent of the crowd are coming in now, that’ll be the protest’

        Schar said ‘ill tell yedlin. He, yedders, that movement in the stand, that we never get 5 minutes before HT, that’s the protest. What do you make of it all?’

        Yedders ‘hey yeah, a small fraction of the crowd are moving. That never happens. Ever.
        Wow.’

        Want me to go on ?

        • Realist

          Are you for real?!

          • TheFatController

            Cricket, tennis, snooker. Sports where the spectator is asked not to move to avoid distracting the players.

            Football ? Given even notts forest and liverpool players were playing for 6 minutes at Hillsborough before the ref was asked by grobelaar to take note of the scenes behind his goal, I can’t acceot that footballers can be distracted by a minority percentage moving around without incident – otherwise we’d concede on 42 minutes every home game.

          • TheFatController

            Also, the goal was in the 11th minute. Before the protesters came back in on 11 minutes.

            Not sure how the goal being scored before the 11th minute was up can be blamed on people coming in it was ehen west ham were celebrating?

            Time is against your logic I’m afraid. No one was moving when the goal went in. It went in before 11 minutes.

            Unlucky.

          • Realist

            Eh?! Your talking riddles.

          • TheFatController

            The fans came in on 11 minutes. The goal was scored in the 11th minute.

            That’s not a riddle, that means the goal was scored around 10:30-10:45. So, taking out the riddle that’s confusing you, that’s before the protesters came in.

            What part of ‘the goal was scored before the protesters came in as in football ‘11’ means the goal was in the 11th minute, thus, without riddles, between 10:00 and 10:59…,

          • Realist

            Still don’t understand what point your trying to make towards me as I’ve never said anything in regards to fans comimg in on 11 minutes (minority) being the blame for the goal. The goal was scored 10.57 as when it went in I looked up at the scoreboard. Your story about fernandez schar and yedlin is the definition of fake news though.

          • TheFatController

            It’s called ‘irony’…

          • Danimal

            Ashley lover. Trump lover. Irony free zone. Wasting your time trying to reason with it.

          • Damon Horner

            If you don’t think the players feel impacted or distracted by the crowd, do you think a boycott would be pointless?

          • TheFatController

            The boycott isn’t to distract or impact the players, it’s to show Ashley that if Rafa goes, we’ll go.

          • Damon Horner

            Nobody said that the intention of a boycott was to impact the players mate but you’ve said to me before a boycott would affect the atmosphere and the players in response to me saying it won’t hurt b3cauee revenues are the big factor and TV earns enough but you suggest the players can play through fan actions?

      • RO-bert

        In short. Yes.

    • Leazes.

      Cheering on the team doesn’t make them win!

      There was a noisy group at the back of the Gallowgate banging on the back of the roof….. it didn’t work at all.

      Thats because its down to the quality of players you have compared with the opposition…… the crowd isn’t the twelfth man because we don’t have any quality or game changers.

  • Mrkgw

    Whilst I respect those that protest, Mike Ashley cares not one jot what supporters think and to much an extent, do. His arrogant approach and pure ignorance as to the true meaning of this club will continue unless an alternative means of ousting him is identified. If only he would change his ways but the last decade evidences the fact that this will never happen.

    Todays result was shambolic and an absolute embarrassment. Bad team selection, dismal substitutions and an awful performance all round. Granted, there are failings in quality but that was well below standard. You simply cannot defend the indefencible, from Rafa to the team.

    ASHLEY OUT!

    • Realist

      If I was clark I’d be pi55d off. Why play manquillo, I’m sorry but he’s not a footballer. I trust rafa but doesn’t mean fans can’t question things. Substitutions too late also.

      • Mrkgw

        Couldn’t agree more. That selection today would have been damaging in terms of squad morale.

        • Realist

          Clark must be thinking what have I got to do to get a run of games. I’m still confident we will stay up even after today’s result. Roll on Wednesday Everton away.

          • Mrkgw

            Clark isn’t the first to have suffered that fate. This will annoy some but a certain Mitro went though similar during the promotion season, scoring and then being benched. I’ve given up even attempting to work out Rafa though, I do remark positively when he does well. But, he leaves me baffled more often than not these days. I do know that I’m not alone in that thinking.

          • Realist

            I never understood rafa with mitrovic but that’s gone now, he’s proving rafa wrong now imo. I think rafa is the man for the long term future though.

          • Mrkgw

            Hope that you are right iro Rafa and maybe with better backing from the owner, he would do an excellent job. Don’t get me wrong, under the present circumstances he is ticking over but for me, its little more than that. For now, anyway.

          • Realist

            Stick by rafa and players, no boycotts or protests, pointless as Ashley will only leave when he wants too and on his terms.

          • Toon Arnie

            What are your thoughts on the masses that leave early every single game ?

        • Chris-Chapple

          you are feeding a troll, wise up

          • Realist

            I’m not a troll ffs, what you are trying to do is go around and shape people’s minds regarding me, pathetic.

      • toonnap

        Substitutions too late – Ritchie was off before the hour and it was way to long for his replacement. Shouldn’t have been near the 1st team

  • Steve Clarke

    I must contest the comment about NUFC not being able to “kick on.” You can’t claim that one because it belongs to the Hammers.

  • RO-bert

    Ah yeah I was waiting for the ‘let’s make note of the fans walking in on the 11th minute for West Ham scoring!’

    Let’s not mention the amount leaving before the game finished.

    Let’s not mention that the team wasn’t good enough.

    Protests don’t lead to goals being conceded.
    Player errors and defensive lapses do or sometimes (and I know this might sound crazy) good play from the opposition can also make this occur.

    For the guy asking people who protest to stay away, I’m guessing you’ll have that soon enough, and slowly over time as less and less people go you can have the ground to yourself

    • X2

      Yes. Those those comments were disgraceful. I suppose if you were in your seat supporting TatDirect17 United you may well want the 11 minute walk-in to “fail” so you feel a little better in your soul.

  • benton mag

    Absolute disgrace booing Perez off he is one of us when he wears the shirt some Newcastle fans the turn up when we are winning are not welcome at nufc part time muppets

    • Realist

      Totally agree.

    • Realist

      It was more of a sarcastic cheer but it was bad craic.

    • Chris-Chapple

      another troll being answered by a troll, you may a well have a flashing light on your head.

    • nufcslf

      Been yelling at the telly for few year’s at the prat. Today just showed why. So disgusted at the present set up and the sheep that still go, I simply turn it off at the final whistle and don’t give it a second thought until the next match. Always watch or lisren to matches so if I put an opinion forward it is on what I saw. Shyt Direct United is a sinking ship amd the happy clappers can’t see it. Laughable.

  • Toon

    Ashley apologists blaming conceding the first goal on the protest, oh dear! Scraping the barrel there but ‘support the team not the regime’ season ticket holders – the irony

  • LA toon

    Watching the game from the US and very disappointed by the non protest! Comments stating the 11 minute protest was the reason we went 1 down is something that trump would say.Looks like the boycott will also be a non starter. To the fans that did not participate, do not bit*h about being future relegation or about the team’s performances. Also the West Ham fans were more vocal than the Toon fans….and some say support the team!!!!

    • Realist

      Away fans 90 percent of time always more vocal at all grounds, it’s their day out they’ve got more energy in them cause of this. Trump is doing well tbh got the American economy in a good shape. Trump 2020! #QAnon.

      • LA toon

        Do you read often?

        • Chris-Chapple

          that mate is a troll with an IQ in single figures

          • Realist

            Wezza is this you?

          • Leazes.

            Best guess…… Brian Standen

        • Realist

          What’s the relevance?

        • LA toon

          Your inane comments about the USA economy. Please do your homework before commenting or have your carer do the research for you.

        • Leazes.

          ….don’t entertain the troll

          • Realist

            😂your tragic

      • Chris-Chapple

        shut up

        • Realist

          You going to make me like?

        • nufcslf

          Exactly.

      • Superdooperhooper

        How’s his big beautiful wall going then?

        • Realist

          Not really bothered about it tbh .I’m British not american.

          • Superdooperhooper

            Why mention rugheed then?

          • Realist

            Because LA did and Its getting very tedious always hearing people have cheap shots at him.

          • Superdooperhooper

            We are all gonna die because of carpet heed . He’s a warmonger

          • Leazes.

            he’s winding people up ignore it

          • Superdooperhooper

            Yeah I would normally block it but the greys can’t be blocked

          • Realist

            I’m not a troll it’s all down to the fact they aren’t keen on my opinions so they don’t want anyone else to engage with my posts. Pathetic 😂

          • Realist

            Oh ffs I’ve heard it all know😂
            Goodnight.

          • Realist

            *Now

          • Superdooperhooper

            Haven’t you heard of a joke before,

          • Realist

            Warmonger = tony blair.

          • Superdooperhooper

            Yes absolutely Blair is a warmonger. I never voted for him

          • Carverlier football

            Cheap shots? He’s a lying, infantile, aggressive, bullying, sexually molesting, misogynist, racist, climate change denying, gun lobby pandering, self interested, narcissistic personality disorder suffering imbecile. I think he’s fair game…

          • ppaddyk

            President Trump is a God, a lord of the Universe, up there with Rafa!

          • Realist

            He’s not any of those things. He’s a man fighting against evil, but your entitled to your opinion mate, that’s all I’m going to say.

          • Carverlier football

            I think that might just be the statement of yours (or indeed anyone’s) that most completely flies in the face of all available evidence… And that’s saying something… Still, as you say you are entitled to your baffling opinion

  • Chris-Chapple

    some fans are still in denial, they West Ham could have had 5 or 6 to say otherwise is stupidity

  • Superdooperhooper

    All this nonsense about the crowd being the twelfth man? Total krap. In which case our home form would be 4 or 5 times better than Bournemouth . Another parcel of @rse

  • Superdooperhooper

    Brian and Paul I’m not being funny but are you thick? If home support meant anything we would be in the top six and Brighton and Bournemouth would be in the bottom two.

  • Mr_Kinnear

    So what happens next?.Boycott at Wolves game seems to be s pointless exercise.You would need at 40k to stay away. Then next match everyone returns. It looks like apathy and moaning will win put over any action. Ashley won’t sell, he is making too much money and still owns all of the assets.I despair he will still be there for a very long time

  • ppaddyk

    Porky Pig is changing the name to Newcastle Divided. That’s what he’s done to us. Get behind the team and Rafa. F..k Ashley. The fat t..t looks on the way to a heart attack. Oh, how we’ll laugh.

  • TeessideMag

    How can more fans showing up to watch you be the reason for conceding? I can understand, to an extent, a walk-out being noticed by the players, but it’s pathetic that journalists are even trying to pull this card and blame the fans. I would absolutely love to know what they all propose would bring about change?? “don’t shop in sports direct!”… The remaining Newcastle fans that do, will make up a very very small portion of overall sales for sports direct, he wouldn’t even notice, next… “why don’t the fans buy the club”… If you can’t convince people to miss 11 minutes of football, how do you convince them to spend large sums of money with no guarantee of getting a postivie outcome? At least protesters are doing something visible, get in front of the cameras so people outside of the club start to question, why are they doing this, why are they so unhappy, bring awareness and the spotlight on Ashley, keep the pressure up until he gets sick, that’s the aim. It’s a long game, longer than 90 minutes.