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Fulham fans comments on reports Tom Cairney will be swapped for Jonjo Shelvey

6 months ago
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Claims have surfaced that Newcastle United and Fulham could do a January swap deal, with Jonjo Shelvey and Tm Cairney switching clubs.

Both clubs are battling relegation and neither player has been an automatic selection this season.

With the two managers looking to strengthen their teams/squads in the transfer window, does the swap deal make sense for either or both clubs?

When asked, Rafa Benitez said that Shelvey would not be allowed to leave Newcastle in January but then the manager would say that if asked about any of his players, apart from those he definitely has no use of, such as Rob Elliot who is fourth choice keeper now.

If Mike Ashley refuses to allow the manager to buy any players in January, as he did in January 2017 and January 2018, then Rafa will have to once again be ‘creative’ if he hopes to add better quality, especially when it comes to goals and creating chances. Whether that is loans or indeed, swap deals.

Jonjo Shelvey has only started 33 of the 58 Premier League games since promotion, due to injuries and lack of form.

In truth, apart from Martin Dubravka and Salomon Rondon, as well as at least four of this group of five centre-backs, is there anybody at Newcastle who is really indispensable of the current squad?

Ahead of the transfer window opening, interesting to hear what Fulham fans think of the two midfielders, as well as the idea of a swap deal…

Fulham fans discuss potential Tom Cairney and Jonjo Shelvey swap on their Friends of Fulham message board:

‘It would be sad to see last season’s captain and most important player gone so quickly, with Sessegnon already looking like the only person from that group who has any future at this level.

Amazing to see a manager sacked and his whole team dismantled within 6 months of such a massive achievement.  

However, being cold about it, Cairney is looking more and more like one of those players Jokanovic made look much better than he is.

I think we have a real chance to get one over on another club, potentially a relegation rival in Newcastle, by selling them a player who I don’t see adding much at all to their team. Like when we sold Malone, Aluko and Fredericks. But that window of opportunity is closing because Cairney looks like he is being found out at the moment.’

‘I have to disagree, I don’t think Joka made TC look “better than what he is”

I think TC made himself look as good as he is, he was superb last season.

So far this season he hasn’t set us alight but with injuries, system changes etc he hasn’t caught fire yet.

He is still our most creative player and the only one with the ability for switching the play, disguising passes, and is still pure class.

His being one-footed didn’t let him down against the CS cloggers last season and I still believe he will come good.

But, yes I would love the BarCode BaldOne but not as a replacement, more like a compliment.

JoJo and Chambers would be awesome together and could allow Seri to be pushed forward a bit.’

‘Give Cairney a break, he has come back from lengthy injury, is playing under a new manager, different tactics and out of position. It’s not that he has been, “found out at this level”, is throwing a strop, is disinterested, is suddenly too slow, etc. etc.

 Class is permanent, once played in position he will come good, hopefully as a Fulham player but if not then sadly elsewhere.’

‘If you play him out of position (as a winger) you’re not going to get the best of him.   

Doesn’t mean he should be traded for…what?   

What position would Shelvey play on this team???’

‘Jonjo Shelvey’s statistics for defensive contribution would prevent many other teams buying him as a central midfielder with a defensive role.’

‘It would be madness to swap a talented individual such as Tom Cairney for a failed temperamental chap like Jonjo Shelvey.

Shelvey is petulant, erratic and often injured.  He has a decent “hoof” on him but rarely employs his footballing brain to spot player’s movement in attacks, unlike Cairney who does.

TC was one of Fulham’s most instrumental players last season, only surpassed by Mitrovic as Fulham’s best player.  He has proven quality!

Ranieri will be showing his ineptitude if he thinks an overrated hothead like Shelvey can replace a genuine intelligent skillful midfield general like Tom Cairney.’

‘Shelvey and Mitrovic in the same team again?! Are we TRYING to get relegated?’

‘Just a sad fact that the premier league is nearly always a step too far for the players that get their teams promoted.’

‘Great deal – let’s do it Tuesday morning.’

‘I knew about Ranieri wanting Shelvey weeks ago but only found out about Cairney yesterday.’

‘I think Cairney is probably the better player, But Shelvey may be a better fit for our system under Ranieri.’

‘I don’t see how he fits in to the mould and I’m not making an argument to say Shelvey is what we need but it does ask the question should we cash in on Cairney whilst we have suitors?’

‘Tom reminds me very much of the aging Scott Parker we had, calls for the ball a lot even if 5 yds away, likes a pirouette and a backwards pass.’

‘Maybe  Ranieri wants the ball played forward more quickly, and not played through the midfield as much.’

‘Whatever the result of this rumoured move it could prove to be, one way or another, the keys to Fulham’s and Newcastle’s season.

Cairney has always been so popular at Fulham and moving him on would be a very brave move by Ranieri.’

‘When we won 3-1 at Newcastle 2 years ago, Cairney matched up to Shelvey and played him off the park. I always remember the moment in the second half when Cairney put his foot on the ball in front of Shelvey and invited him to come and get it. Shelvey just kicked him and got booked, as I recall.

Times change and requirements change I know, but on form Cairney is the much better player and Shelvey would be a huge downgrade imho.’

‘Shelvey for Cairney would be a massive step backwards.’

‘Would take this in a heartbeat, Shelvey a much better all round player.’

‘I am not against us signing Shelvey (or a player of that ilk). Shipping out Cairney in order to do so, however, would make it no easier to avoid relegation.’

‘The only way that I can look at this is that the way forward toward survival doesn’t appear to include Cairney in any more than a bit role whereas Shelvey likely would feature far more.’

‘A big no to Shelvey from me, he is a dirty player on and off the ball and is likely to pick up a red card, something TC is never likely to do.’

‘Why not simply BUY Shelvey without getting rid of one of our talismanic midfielders.’

‘Why would Newcastle sell to a relegation rival unless we seriously overpaid.’

‘Why does it have to be for Shelvey? Think we’d just be in the same predicament getting a CM. I’d rather us ask for Muto or even Yedlin should he fall out of favour for Manquillo.’

‘Cairney is fragile; Shelvey is a beast, and a proven Premier league player.  If Shelvey is healthy, take ’em.

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