Burnley fans watched their team hit the heady heights of seventh last season.

Sean Dyche lauded by locals and neutrals alike for doing so on a relatively limited budget.

That earned them a go in the Europa League but having to go through the qualifying rounds, meant an early start and the European tour over before they reached the group stage.

Sean Dyche has pointed to the extra games and early start to their season as factors in the poor start, but regardless of that, Burnley fans are already sounding worried about this season and some even seeing Monday night as the proverbial relegation six pointer already.

Some positive comments on the expected away following on Monday night but interesting/amusing to see how long football fans can hold a grudge.

A big conversation below about how 1974 ruined many a Burnley fan’s life and it was Newcastle United to blame, still!

The odd voice of reason, including somebody pointing out that with it shortly being 2019, it will be 45 years since Supermac and 1974, so still bearing the grudge now is like somebody in 1974 moaning about what happened in 1929…

Burnley fans comments via their top Up The Clarets message board:

‘The toon fans are on the march again, amazing what 2 wins can do, until you point out that it is 2 wins this season. Same for us so we are in for an important game Monday night.’

‘Big game indeed on Monday, i think we have a decent record at home against Toon, so hopefully a much needed 3 points will be on the cards for the clarets.

I hope so because if we end up losing the game, we are in for a really tough relegation battle, there are worse teams than us in the PL but they are playing better football than us without getting results, we have been lucky against Cardiff,Huddersfield and Leicester, things could have been a lot worse.

At least our injury list is shrinking and hopefully a bit of form is returning, I think we can win but its going to be close, come on you clarets.’

‘Has to be a win, no other result will do.’

‘They’ve more right to be optimistic than us, the performance on Monday is crucial.

A defeat isn’t the end of the world if we can look at it and say we were unlucky, but if we put in another dire performance and lose, we will rightly look like relegation fodder.’

 ‘Still need payback for 74.’

‘Absolutely unreal. We had by far the better side but they beat us in the semi at Hillsborough, the Texaco Cup Final, which should have been two legs but ended up one at St. James’, and then cost us Europe with a 1-1 draw ont’ Turf last game of the season.

Total jinx.’

‘I went to the semi as did a number of the older posters on here and it’s a bit poor when we have to keep referring back it whenever we play them.

I was as disappointed as anyone that day but it was nearly 45 years ago. It’s like someone in 1974 still having a gripe over a minor setback that happened to them in 1929.’

‘My worst experience at a football match ever and I would imagine the same for a number of supporters it wasn’t a “minor setback” then and isn’t now!’

‘I remember that season well and still look back with a certain hatred on ‘Supermac’ who I think scored in all 3 games.

The semi was a joke as we played em off the park and they got humiliated in the final. The Texaco ‘final’ was dropped to one leg I think because they were in the FA Cup final (undeservedly) and the last game of the season cost us a European place (when it was taken seriously) due to (if memory serves) a late equaliser by you-know-who.

The irony was that Supermac wasn’t actually that good, he just had the speed of an olympic sprinter. But for him we would have been in the FA Cup final (scousers said afterwards we would have been the better opponents), quite possibly have won the Texaco and got a place in Europe. That would have been a very satisfying season I think.’

‘Just demonstrates the situation we find ourselves in (and many other clubs in this league) when we are looking at this game as vital, must win or a six pointer.

Only 12 games in, still November and it is taking on the significance of the type of game usually reserved for April/May in years gone by.

Scrambling for safety from November onwards illustrates perfectly the sheer divide that exists now between a handful of clubs and the remaining majority.’

‘(Newcastle have an) Excellent following.’

‘I don’t believe in fate but why is it that when we are about to play a poor side they seem to improve just before we play them. And they have.’

‘Toon will have a magnificent following.’

‘Newcastle fans are awesome.. Never forget beating them 1-0 in the last minute in the fa cup.. On the way home thousands surrounded my car and rocked it, trying to turn it over.. Awesome..!’

‘Whatever line up we play, let’s hope it’s set up to, or at least capable of scoring 2 goals.

I know it only Needs to be 1 for 3 points, but I think they’ll score, and if they score first whilst we are playing our famous keep it tight and nick a goal tactic, it wont yield the 3 points we so desperately want and need.

No game’s a must win at this stage, but make no mistake about it this is a massive game for us, purely with the run of fixtures coming up.

Let’s hope we don’t serve up the toothless long ball dross we have been doing.’



  • Wor Lass

    “..so still bearing the grudge now is like somebody in 1974 moaning about what happened in 1929…” I bet people still bang on about Trelford Mills in another 39 years! Seriously, though, if you were a life-long fan and actually at the match you`d think about losses like that whenever you played the same opposition. I think we owe Burnley one – they took 4 points off us last year and we haven`t beaten them in the top flight since 1975. I suppose we must have been jammy when we beat them home and away that season!

    • KennySamsung

      ..and Super Mac not being any good, how dare they!

      • Wor Lass

        We beat them 3-0 at home the following season and he got 2. At least he was consistently krap!

        • KennySamsung

          😂

    • Kenny

      Was Leazes at the 1929 game, if he wasn`t he`ll still know all about it
      😂😂

      • Wor Lass

        I think he was boycotting – they`d put the entry fee up to a farthing. He wasn`t going to be held to ransom!

      • Leazes.

        I was there in 74…. the reason we got there in the first place was that Sunderland did it the year before and the fans weren’t going to let the club bow out….. mind it took some support and a pitch invasion, replays and the longest chant of Howay the Lads was given its inauguration at the Hawthorns.

      • Kneebotherm8

        He was at the 1945 game…………….quarter to eight that is……..

        • Leazes.

          hello

          • Kneebotherm8

            Good morning.

      • Squintytoonarmy

        Bet Moscow was – his 500+ away points date back to then

    • Leazes.

      Arsenal fans are still miffed at the ball over the line goal from 1932.

      • Kneebotherm8

        Oh for goal line technology…….

      • Wor Lass

        The hand of God was 1986 and I`m still fuming!

    • Mike D

      I wasn’t thought of. I know nothing of success. Just nearly made it.

      • porciestreet

        Sadly, born in 49, I just missed the 50s extravaganza and equally sadly, three visits to Wembley since were all disappointing.
        I did manage the Fairs Cup run however. God bless Joe Harvey.

        • robbersdog

          I was at that Fairs Cup final, and every home match before that game as we went through the competition. The most memorable game for me was against Glasgow Rangers – 60,000+ in the stadium and I’ve never known an atmosphere like it. It was like a bear pit and we were all at fever pitch.

        • Kev Newcastle England

          Weve been to Wembley 6 times since 70s,Ive missed one of them.6 defeats,of course.

        • Colin Marr

          Joe our greatest manager.

  • KennySamsung

    They don’t sound that confident.. not surprising coming up against an in form side full of attacking options playing with confidence and passion.. I think they’re playing Man City next week! 😉 As far as Monday goes it’ll probably be a bore draw.

    • Kneebotherm8

      If I was betting I’d go for 0-0 too.

    • nufcslf

      We have never won a Sky Monday televised match, so maybe a predictable 0-0 draw wouldn’t be a bad result.

  • Paul Patterson

    Not bothered about people who hold a grudge from a match won fair and square 50 years ago.

    And on the subject of Europe, I’ve said elsewhere, only clubs that aren’t big enough or actively refuse to compete moan about being in Europe.

  • Billmag

    Some of them were right about one thing we didn’t turn up for the final, still had a hell of a night in Soho though.

    • KennySamsung

      Stop Super Mac stop Newcastle and they did.

    • Leazes.

      Yeah that’s alright then, it totally makes up for it.

      • Billmag

        What did you expect throw myself in the Tower or maybe jump in the Thames, what did you do ??

        • KennySamsung

          You’ll get no reply from him on that one he’ll be off being miserable to someone else!

          • Billmag

            😀😀😀😀😀😀

    • Dave Pattinson

      Helluva day/night at the semi…Supermac wasn’t that good eh? According to some Clarets fans with poor memories! Well he certainly pi$$ ed them off big-time if they still moan about him now!

      • Kev Newcastle England

        Aye just all 5 goals for England one night,even if it was just Cyprus

    • porciestreet

      The joke at the time was ” The one thing Newcastle never brought to Wembley was Macdonalds boots. Fraid they were right, and for me, the best goal of the game from Stevie Highway was chalked off, wrongly in my opinion.
      Fantastic day out though.

  • Leicester Mag

    Second goal still sends shivers down my spine, especially Brian Moore’s commentary. Sharp realised life as a fan was sshct watching the final as a 7 yr old. Thankfully it’s got better since then, oh hang on….

    • Leazes.

      The Cups were always a poor runners up prize to the championship which we couldn’t win anyway. The three wins in the 50s masked a club in decline.

      Cups are 50% luck of the draw anyway and having your squad prepared for each round…. lesser clubs who progress usually decline in the league.

      • Billmag

        After 50+ years of zilch that’s a lifetime, I would take a cup now because we certainly won’t be getting anything else.

      • Kev Newcastle England

        At least the club gave it a go then,and the FA Cup was everything to me,for a period of time it was bigger to me than chance of winning League

        • Stephen Paylor

          i grew up in the 80s and the FA Cup day was the biggest day of the year. The build up seemed magical, the teams walking out the band playing. Nothing seems like that now.

          • Kev Newcastle England

            Aye,me and my mates in a big group would go into town and watch the Final with whoever was playing from early 80s onwards,now sometimes I havent even bothered watching finals on TV.

          • KennySamsung

            There was hardly any foreigners in the game then, the FA cup has become slowly less important over the years, no longer special and no longer loved.

    • East Durham Mag

      So right, I was 8 at the time and was glued to the tv, its a knockout etc then the match was awful. Its been a rollercoaster ever since.

    • KennySamsung

      I was 11 at the time and realised as a Newcastle supporter you turn up to finals but don’t expect the players to.

  • porciestreet

    If If If If If……most of your whinging and problems all refer to the past. Try getting up in the morning wit a more positive slant on life and you may find you wont be so bitter.
    Shame you cant do it till Tuesday morning.
    Burnley 1-2 Newcastle.

  • Paul Cannell

    I wonder if John Tudor holds a grudge against Burnley fans.
    He got a brick to the head after Burnley fans attacked the players coach.

    • Wor Lass

      Wish we had him now!

      • Paul Cannell

        Halilulia

        • KennySamsung

          “Halilulia John Tudor, Macdonald, Mcfaul”

        • Kev Newcastle England

          F*cking hell is Paul Cannell….Leeds away mid 70s,10,000 Toon there,sensational eqialiser from Cannell out on the right wing,in front of Toon.Monk wasnt there.

          • KennySamsung

            Was that mid 70’s? I must be older than what I thought.. I was there!!

          • Kev Newcastle England

            Aye.just checked it now 1976.great day.

          • KennySamsung

            The one I was thinking of was 1982 when I think Varadi scored but I do remember the 1976 Cannell goal which I think was a beauty in front of the Toon Army.

          • Kev Newcastle England

            Yeah fantastic goal from where he struck it….been to Leeds so many times as a young un hard to remember which game was which lol.Played Leeds more times than Sunderland 70s and 80s it seemed to me,and was just as big a game,the rivalry was massive.
            Im not sure on the Varadi goal you mention.I remember we won there midweek 1 nil early 80s League Cup Varadi may have scored? But they battered us 4 1 in return leg.

          • KennySamsung

            Watched the 70’s games on SHOOT, ON THE BALL or MOTD just too young to go to the away matches then. Nowt like the bordy tones of Kenneth Wolstenholme on Tyne Tees, hde also did the world cup 66.. I could go on forever haha

          • Kev Newcastle England

            Same here lol

          • KennySamsung

            Was actually thinking of 1982 when Varadi scored and Newcastle got beat daft lad!!

          • Themoscow72

            Monk was there and if I remember right his goal was scored from near the corner flag to our left hand side.

    • KennySamsung

      Aah how the memories come flooding back, the football wasn’t bad either.

  • Rich Lawson

    Been a long time,but I was at the semi,went on a packed fans special train and we completely took Sheffield over that day,I don’t rmbr us being in any danger of losing at all ?

    • KennySamsung

      You’ve got to give it to Burnley fans, the memory plays tricks on the facts. 😂

    • Leazes.

      Too many people inside the ground, they overstated the capacity to get the semifinal there, I was in the Kop end and it was just a sea of movement, my feet were lifted off the ground…. years later it was criminal tragedy…

      • Rich Lawson

        It was packed but I thought nothing of it at the time,just out of interest what did they say the capacity was to get the game ?

  • Milburn_Taylor

    Watched the 1974 Cup Final in Eindhoven, took some stick for months afterwards off my mates, none of them were Geordies

  • Ba ba.

    Dear me.. 74 ffs .😂

    • Kneebotherm8

      44 years ago……….fkn unbelievable

    • Kev Newcastle England

      Absolute sad fu*ks,unreal….74 was clearly the biggest occasion in the history of their club to be still narked by it,but credit to the very few who have moved on from it.

  • Tweed Mag

    In a funny way I am grateful to the Burnley fans talking about a cup run Newcastle were involved in. I also wonder when the next cup run will be.

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    If a hurricane ever sweeps through Burnley then it will be celebrated forever with the natural disaster doing a 100 % improvement to the place !

    Then again, They would probably wake up the next day and not recognize anything different !

  • Andrew Brown

    Supermac left Waldron for dead in 74 buts lets leave it there its been said its 44 years ago lets move on

  • BigHairyDog

    “Supermac wasn’t even that good”…

    I suppose Shearer, Milburn and Keegan were average too?