Rafa Benitez getting it in the neck….

Calm down calm down, as usual I quote the 80/20 rule.

In today’s world especially, you can find every view imaginable if you look hard enough.

Journalists often do….and if they can’t find what they are looking for, they can just make it up anyway.

Social media is especially open to this, you now get whole articles in newspapers based on what one or two people are saying on Twitter.

For all you know, these Twitter people might be Mackems, or they may not even exist at all…journalists no doubt at times inventing Twitter accounts themselves which they then ‘quote’ in their over the top article.

Coming back to Rafa Benitez, I once again this weekend find plenty of Newcastle fans outraged about criticism the manager has (supposedly) received – but when you actually look into it, it is based on next to nothing.

At the actual match yesterday, the only real public uttering of displeasure was when Ayoze Perez stayed on the pitch, Yoshinori Muto subbed instead.

Even then the booing/’outrage’ was pretty restrained, just fans venting their pent up frustration and making the point that they think Perez is rubbish and hardly lifted a leg against Brighton.

Which is fair enough.

It was no revolt against Rafa Benitez, just supporters wondering where our under-invested team will next get a win from.

Even if some inside or outside St James Park are having a go at Rafa, so what?

As I have said before on here, you will never please all of the people any of the time.

I usually quote the Kevin Keegan example, back in the 90s we could be beating teams 4-1 or 5-1 and still, all that some supporters wanted to talk about afterwards, was how KK’s defence had let that one goal in.

It is the 80/20 rule, you have to accept that there will ALWAYS be some people (20% give or take) who disagree with any idea or situation, no matter how daft their opinion is.

That’s the case with Rafa Benitez, no normal person will blame him for the club/team being in a mess.

Questioning individual decisions on team selection and/or tactics is different – that is just a normal part of what any fan could and should do.

However, just because a handful of people at the match or on social media say something, doesn’t give it any real credibility.

Go in your own local pub and you will find at least a handful of clueless people talking nonsense, whether it is about Newcastle United or whatever.

The tail does not wag the dog, Newcastle United fans know who is dragging this club towards inevitable disaster and it isn’t Rafa Benitez.

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  • Paul Patterson

    My problem with Rafa critics and Ashley apologists is simple- Spending the bare minimum and even making a profit clearly hasn’t worked and very rarely does.
    Here’s an idea, give a world class manager descent money to spend. Then he would have no excuses.
    Last summer we made a profit. Enough said. Its too late. Ashley has single handedly screwed this season.

    • Leazes.

      …and every season…. just after the season ticket sales and chronicle headlines debating the size of the managers war chest.

      • oompalumpa

        Spot on

    • oompalumpa

      Perfect

    • FatParosite

      The very crux of the matter patently ignored by nearly everyone except those who suffer from it most.

    • graham18

      And a few more as well

  • Leazes.

    Well said…. I noticed the Click bait sites on Newsnow which always have a go…. with provocative headlines proclaiming

    ……. ‘Newcastle fans will go mental and start dribbling at the lips if they sign this £3.4m 6’1″ ace’….

    Its the same handful of London based media students quoting some conversation between two people on twitter….

    We’ve all seen the sites HITC, This is Futbol,The Newcastle United Blog….etc..

    Individuals and cranks, ship stirrers, fools….

    I said a few days ago that you now have to wade through fake news and Advertising click bait in order to reach the real news.

    Chris Mort was in town yesterday…… now that is significant. Its either to sort out HMRC’s concerns, or to replace Charnley…. Another Lawyer just what we are short of around here!

    We know most of the top accountancy firms wont touch Ashley with a barge pole so maybe he’s looking to oversee the financial mess or betters still extricate United’s finances from S**** D****t….

    Now that would be Newsworthy!

    • Wezza

      Leazes, did you notice NUFC independent auditor for our accounts is Grant Thornton? The same Grant Thornton under investigation for SD accounts? The trolls are quiet but this to me smells very fishy indeed and the trolls are quiet on the subject.

      • Leazes.

        I thought Grant Thornton had jumped ship!

        I’ve just read that Chris Mort was the guy who did due diligence for Staveley…. A colleague of Ashley and Jiminez…..

        Douglas and Starforth took that to mean Genuine…… the fools!

        He’s part of the London Mafia!

        Convinced them…..oh dear!

        All the pleas to Starforth to name the ‘interested parties’ and its Mort!

        • Wezza

          Really? WOW I didn’t know that! Mind you nothing shocks me about the levels this regime stoop to!
          We must boycott Wolves home!

          • Themoscow72

            By deserting the players in the hour of need will that help find a buyer no. Get your Wolves tickets Monday 29th October from 10.00am and support your team.

          • Wezza

            Where was your support on Saturday then? SJP was like a morgue.

  • oompalumpa

    Another story all hype as usual. FCB still in charge sheep will still go, when Rafa goes the sheep will go Ashley in dream land. Talk about treat them mean keep them keen

  • FatParosite

    If the fans who booed are stupid enough to pay Ashley to rape the club, they are stupid enough to fall for the current PR agenda against Rafa seeded by Ashley. Our fans are monumentally thick. Not many have sang ‘get out of our club’ while Ashley is in the ground. They still go in droves despite protesting outside the ground utterly nullifying any point to the protests. I’ve said it before & I will say it again just for the hard of thinking. An EMPTY ground WILL have the desired effect. The our fans ARE the problem.

    • Dave Pattinson

      Totally agree mate! If we do nothing,we deserve Ashley for ever & ever & ever……….Lets just TRY it!

  • Toontaff

    I wonder who thought paying 12 million for Murphy was a good idea? An expensive bench warmer……………

    • Clarko

      Certainly not Benitez….

    • Billmag

      That situation happens throughout football look at Fergie he bought Obertan.

  • St_ephen1

    The Ronnie Gills Chris Waugh ran a pathetic headline citing “Newcastles” complacency has led to this and then goes on to refer ever (so diplomatically) about “the clubs hierarchy” which merely ‘wishy washies’ around the massive London based fat elephant in the Chronicles press room. That massive menacing mammal being one Michael ‘Stanley’ Ashley (an habitual criminal who sees running a football club responsibly as an occupational hazard). Seriously, the Washington Post does not pull any punches about its abhorrent POTUS in residence. Nor the New York Times. It is the war of the free press vs Tyranny going on right now over the pond. And what is happening in the best city in the UK whose proud football heritage is being destroyed by a similarly egotistical, lying sociopath whose only interest is self enrichment? The press, national and even local, pander to this pr*ck. Chronicle journos. Please! Grow some balls! Say it how it is. The truth. Every drop of bad news falls at the fett of one man and one man alone. And his name is not “Newcastle Hierarchy”.

    • NUFC17

      Well said

  • Ashley-out

    the manager is the last guy to blame for this sorry mess of a football club.
    he would be long gone if his prior agent hadn`t made a real mess of his contract clause

    • Kneebotherm8

      These idiots blaming Benitez are just unable/unwilling to look past their nose ends………

      • BigHairyDog

        They want change, they see they can’t change the owner so the manager gets the chop. It’s your typically short sighted idiots who put 100% blame on Pardew and McClaren and excused the root of it all. Changing the manager may have an initial reaction but the problems will keep resurfacing because the problem is Ashley.

        • Kneebotherm8

          Those individuals can’t see the wood for the trees…….

  • Mrkgw

    For me, Rafa deserves much of the criticism. Many of his predecessors would most certainly have been forced out for much less. First and foremost, I welcomed his appointment from the outset as a massive thing for our club. He was just the tonic that we needed in the midst of continual misery under this Mike Ashley regime. As things have progressed, granted, the purse strings have been cut. But, a few points cause concern. Limited budget taken into account, I’ve been less than impressed by his signings. Murphy, Atsu, Joselu, Manquillo, Rondon are just a few that spring to mind. And meanwhile, there was the sanctioning of departures Gayle and Mitro. His tactics are nothing short of dire. Dismal in fact. His alleged treatment of fringe players – love or hate the pair but Colback and Lazaar being forced to train away from the first team was absolutely shameful. Rafa wont sign a new deal and this shows with recent performances in which players lack belief. Therefore, I’d welcome change and Rafa for me is as good as done. 100%.

    • Graphsboy

      You’re one of the idiots this article’s referring to.

      • Mrkgw

        Typical. Always easy to call those that don’t share the party view as being ‘idiots’. Whatever happened to having opinions and being able to discuss them without being insulted?

      • Ram Kishore

        He’s just giving his opinion just like the writers of The Mag.
        What happened to ‘keep an open mind’? He is just criticising in a healthy manner.
        Even I don’t agree with few his opinions but it doesn’t make him a idiot.

    • Wezza

      Don’t be silly. Rafa has been undermined and lied to… repeatedly… by a court proven liar. This past summer we got bargain bin, loans and freebies. Our players were simply cheaply replaced on lower wages. The squad WAS NOT strengthened.
      It doesn’t matter what manager is there they’d be in the same situation.

    • Angelswithdirtyfaces

      I very much doubt if any of the players you name were top or even second on Rafa’s well publicised lists of transfer targets. Would anyone willingly sign Stoke’s 3rd/4th choice striker, in their relegation season ? Get a grip man. Pardew survived some immense losing streaks in both 10/11 and 12/13 with a much better first eleven, so you’re also wrong there. Would you sign a new contract with an employer who only gave you half a toolkit, but still expected the same productivity off you ? You’re in denial – it’s the FCB who is entirely responsible for the present mess.

    • Carverlier football

      I’m not saying Rafa is immune from criticism or that he never gets things wrong, however to criticise him is to take focus away from the fundamental issue that needs resolving – and we all know who that is. It’s like criticising the captain of a ship for going 10 miles off course when the ship’s owner has sent it out with a hole in the hull – it’s really the least of our problems.

  • Superdooperhooper

    Pezza tory [email protected] Monkseaton monarchist tory [email protected] clarko angry monarchist tory [email protected] Why don’t you all live down south with all the other bugle blowing fox killers?

    • FatParosite

      If only…

    • Tony English

      London has 21 Local Labour councils and only 7 Tory run councils, you can keep those three up there, they aren’t welcome down here either.

  • Rev

    You contradict yourself, booing the substitution of Muto is ok because it was clearly the wrong choice and any fan should question individual decisions, but the booing was not directed at Rafa, just supporters wondering when we would get a win. Dont know how many times i have read on here or elsewhere Rafa got it wrong, or Rafas decision was unfathomable. No 80/20 rule here. If the booing isnt for Muto then its for the managers decision, not the painful underinvestment in the squad. It is the same every week, like McClaren.

    • FatParosite

      Unfortunately these incidents get amplified by Bishop. It is PR war in full swing. Ashely knows full well that bulleltting Benitez is suicide. Bishop only last week floats the idea through lickspittal media partner the Mirror to seed it. Doubts are then raised and raised again. So expect a flurry of halfwits ready to sell their souls for 30 silver on Sky Sports this week to add grist to the anti Rafa mill. It will go on until Ashley simply has to kill Bambi before he spends £50m in the transfer window at the behest of some yes man. JFK is still using oxygen isn’t he….? Expect someone of his caliber to walk through the door and be given a nice budget. Because Ashley thinks everything will blow over if he puts some cash in to save the season.

      • RAFmag

        Don’t agree. Ashley’s will more likely sack Rafa in January and then appoint his yes man after the transfer window has shut. Do not expect any significant spend in January. He will accept relegation as a risk as he has done twice before based on quick promotion after minimal outlay and a short stay in the Championship. He has lost it completely. His recent investments (HoF) were complete lunacy. Those failing businesses are going to make the whole house of cards fall over. Winter is coming for Ashley and we are going to be dragged down with them.

        • Ram Kishore

          If relegation is a near possibility he will back the manager imo.
          Examples 2012/13 Jan window, 2015/16 Jan window.
          Just pointing out. Ur prediction or speculation doesn’t suit the pattern. He will stick with Rafa just like how he did with Alan or Steve but this time he doesn’t have them either. He’s having Rafa, the fans are behind him

          • RAFmag

            The recent transfer profit (despite when the need for investment was obvious), purchase of HoF (where significant funds are needed to turn it round), fall in the SD share price and the admission of an unknown amount of funds being taken out of the club tell me he is not going to be flushed with funds for spending in January. His recent appearance at matches and trying to schmooze the players with a night out tell me he is panicking. His behaviour is alwsys dodgy and difficult to read, but to me he is panicking.

          • Ram Kishore

            Maybe he’s panicking, maybe not. We don’t know for sure. The reason maybe varied but now he’s at least getting to watch the team he owns. He knows they need more quality.
            But I think the pattern seems obvious. Inorder to keep the value, he may allow the club the spend it’s money. For all I know, I am only speculating. Only time will tell.

  • East Durham Mag

    Lets face it most of us forecasted our current predicament after the car crash of a transfer window #3 or was it #4? The cheating lying Fat [email protected]@rd has really f*cked Rafa over this time. Only a complete @rsehole would defend Fatty.

    • Kneebotherm8

      There’s one or two on here……

  • Dillon Tovak

    Disillusioned and depressed are the ways I’d describe my feelings towards Newcastle these days.
    It’s left me half wanting Rafa to depart so I can get on with completely giving up.
    And no (to those (trolls) too stupid to understand) I’m not being a fair weather fan, it just isn’t about football anymore. It’s corruption, greed, lies, petty maliciousness and tackiness.

    • FatParosite

      You’ve joined an ever growing club of ex-supporters standing around the grave of NUFC.

    • Mrkgw

      Your concluding sentence sums up the situation perfectly. We need add no more than that.

    • David2211

      Fully agree Dillon. My love for Rafa is something else. He came at a time when I had pretty much given up. He sparked a sense of wonder in me because never in my wildest dreams had I thought Newcastle could ever have a manager of his calibre again.
      Little things like interacting with the community, showing a passin, being honest and the football side like instilling a grit at the end of the relegation which led to a Championship season where, while we had tough times, we did the job and did it well.
      Now? I still love Rafa and he’s the only reason I still have a shred of care. If he were to go, I could completely stop caring full stop. In a way, I feel like I owe the guy for coming in and trying to save what this club.
      Sadly, under MA, nothing will ever save us.

    • Ram Kishore

      Dillon if I remember right someone said this before. This is the world we live in, football has changed. Dynamics around it too. Either we can support the team and the gane and try to make it better by working for it or wash your hands off..
      Simple. Just being honest

    • MadMag83

      I feel the same, for me it’s pure frustration. To make it to 10th place last season against big odds, and then not invest is just mind bogglingly idiotic. I’m convinced this club will make no progress until Ashley is gone.

      The best we can hope for is survival year on year. I dread to think how low this man’s ineptitude could take us.

  • Down Under Mag

    I personally think Rafa is the best manager we can hope for at this club under the current regime by a mile and while I actually understand the calls for Rafa to go, NOT for the reasons that are given.

    The state of the club right now means Rafa is not going to be here next season and that has to be pretty hard for players under that uncertainty. There is also a sense that rafa is playign a certain way but is probably not the manager at this moment for getting things out of the mire.

    The alternatives though don’t bear thinking about – wouldn’t surprise me if Ashley tries to bring Allardyce back.Make no mistakes about it, if Rafa goes, now or at the end of the season, we are in for even more hurt. I honestly think Ashley will shower the new manager with money just to prove a point that Rafa should have signed a new contract. The trouble is Ashley refuses to back the RIGHT managers – Hughton, Keegan, Rafa. Instead he seems to prefer the yes men like Pardew and McClackers.

    I can’t see us coming back up next season (yes i’m almost ready to conceed relegation after that showing at the weekend) and hopefully that will be the catalyst for Ashley to finally cut his losses and leave.

    • RAFmag

      God knows what rabbit he will pull out of the hat to replace Rafa when he leaves. Has he not financially overstretched himself this time? Sports Direct share price in free fall, a dinosaur of a retail business in HoF which looks beyond help and a football club which needs £100M injection just to stand still. If we are in the bottom 3 in January and he doesn’t spend you know his empire is in a massive cash flow crisis. He is heading for a massive fall.

      • MadMag83

        People like him never take the fall though. They blame others and run away with the money.

  • Philippines

    If anyone who could tell us who the ‘best’ manager in the World is, and you could bring him here, he could still do no better than Rafa with his zero budget for the players we need.

  • Themoscow72

    Rafa knew that Gayle fitted into our system but for some strange reason he let him go and replaced with a player we have seldom scene. Was only a matter of time before Gayle would come good in the Premiership would have got us twelve goals this season at least. A Rafa own goal.

    • t00nraider

      Its easy to say thing like that though. No one knew Rondon would have been out for so long and shouldnt have claimed to be fit when not, which delayed his return. Hopefully back for the saints game and make a difference.

    • TheFatController

      gayle’s almost middle aged – explain how this season, and not any previous, he would have come good on the PL?

    • MadMag83

      How many seasons did Gayle spend at Palace in the Premier league without convincing? Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather have Gayle up front than Joselu, but to claim that it was “only a matter of time” before he came good is just silly.

  • TheFatController

    Some people default to being victims of others, whilst the opposite is to never be a victim, to create a solution.

    If you default in life to playing victim, you’ll be a victim of either Ashley on one side or ungrateful fans on the other depending on your view of the situation.

    Should results be poor, of course you’ll be a victim of the manager and players. And demand new ones, even if they’d be no better or maybe worse, just so long as the incumbents get punished for letting you down.

    People who aren’t defaulting to victim will have the view ‘I doubt we’d improve with a new manager, but would we with a new owner? Undoubtedly’

    They then don’t need to play victim, or need to have the manager/players/people not sharing their view punished. They just have the need to get the stubborn owner out.

    If you look at the views on here, they all fit between ‘victim requiring the guilty get theirs’ and ‘solution-based people, certain a new owner might just make the difference’

    If a victim read this, they’d tell me I was victimising them to suggest a new manager wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference or, given a poorer CV is likely compared to Rafa’s, might actually be worse.

    They’d want me punished. Gotta have punishment in the victim’s world …I mean, can’t we see how superior they are ? Don’t you Rafa lovers get how wrong you are?’

    They were probably glad when Sir Bobby went and extolled the new arrival sounness as the man to put it all right, despite a CV that was woeful compared to Sir Bobby’s .