The Newcastle United Fans Forum was cancelled at the last minute in August.

Despite being scheduled for months, it was no surprise when Mike Ashley stopped it going ahead, the NUFC owner not wanting his minions to face awkward questions.

The feeble excuse used was that Lee Charnley was suddenly too busy to attend, no doubt that barber’s appointment was too pressing..

News now though that a new date has been confirmed and is going ahead, at least it is at the moment…

We understand that the next Newcastle United Fans Forum is scheduled for Monday 24 September.

We also understand that the supporters who take part in the forum have to put in questions by late this (Tuesday) afternoon, if they want them to be considered for the agenda.

As usual, the club doesn’t in any way make it easy for the fanbase to put any questions forward themselves. Not going to any effort to publicise how Newcastle fans can do this.

In the absence of that, you can always send your questions direct to the club’s Lee Marshall, who chairs the Newcastle United Fans Forum meetings. So get them sent in today to Lee’s Twitter address @LeeMarshall9

The Mag – 27 August 2018:

On Saturday I wrote about the Newcastle United Fans Forum (see below).

In it, I mentioned how it was an absolute disgrace how those supporters who volunteered to give up their time and energy, had been treated by the club in all of the years it had been in place.

Mike Ashley and his people manipulating the whole process for their own ends, using it as a PR weapon/exercise, rather than approaching it in good faith.

No transparency either, the whole thing done behind closed doors and the club controlling what goes in the minutes, whilst other clubs provide video footage so everybody can see/hear everything that is said.

Last season they really took the mick, the club refusing to allow the Newcastle United Fans Forum to meet, so they could avoid questions about the disgraceful running of the club under Mike Ashley, in particular, the treatment of Rafa Benitez.

They waited until Premier League safety was achieved and allowed finally a meeting to take place in late April 2018.

At that meeting the club ‘apologised” for not having meetings and accepted it was unacceptable to keep delaying having them. They agreed to a schedule of meetings, with Tuesday 28 August 2018 the first of three dates.

On Saturday I reported how fans forum members had contacted the club and asked for confirmation that the meeting was going ahead, they were all ignored.

I questioned: ‘Newcastle United Fans Forum – Mike Ashley regime running scared and set to cancel again?’

Monday morning has finally seen confirmation that the meeting of the Newcastle United Fans Forum…has been cancelled.

Only 24 hours before the meeting was due to take place, Lee Charnley said to be ‘unavailable’.

If you believe that, then I expect you also think Rafa Benitez was given ‘every penny’ to spend these past two seasons.

What an absolute disgrace that Mike Ashley and his minions are willing to treat people in this way.

Scared to meet their own supporters, even in an environment that is controlled by them, what an absolute joke.

This is the club’s commitment to the Newcastle United Fans Forum for future meetings, from the minutes of that 25 April 2018 meeting:

The club apologised for delays in the regularity of Fans Forum meetings.

Phil Lee (PL) was concerned that the club could be seen as not being committed to the Fans Forum process.

The club accepted that view but hoped that supporters who had been involved with the process since 2013 would acknowledge how committed the club has been to communicating openly as part of the Forum.

Steve Hastie (SH) stated that Arsenal run Fans Forums on matchdays and enquired as to whether this would be possible.

The club advised that several members of the management team would be operational on matchdays and that this would negatively impact the time and attention that could be given to meetings.

Peter Fanning (PF) suggested committing to dates for future meetings would send out a positive message about the club’s commitment to the Fans Forum.

The club agreed and has proposed the following dates for future Fans Forums: Tuesday 28th August 2018; Tuesday 12th February 2019; Tuesday 21st May 2019.

The Mag – 25 August 2018:

The Newcastle United Fans Forum will meet Lee Charnley and other club officials on Tuesday (28 August 2018).

Many supporters looking forward to this meeting at St James Park, when the Newcastle fans in attendance will be able to ask some searching questions about the running of the club.

Surely an ideal situation for both sides.

The fans able to ask questions directly of Lee Charnley (the only member of the Newcastle United board and the club’s only named executive) and other staff.

Whilst from the club’s/Mike Ashley’s side, a perfect opportunity to deliver in a controlled safe environment, the truth (as they see it) on the various issues that  supporters are concerned about.

However…

Only three days to go before that Newcastle United Fans Forum and it is very much looking like it might not go ahead.

Sadly, for those fans who have made the time and effort to take part in the Fans Forum, they have been treated with utter contempt by the club. The Mike Ashley regime failing totally to approach these meetings in good faith.

Members of the Newcastle United Fans Forum have responded to questions from other supporters on social media, who have asked if the meeting is indeed happening on Tuesday and can they ask various questions on their behalf. However, the Fans Forum members have responded, saying that they have no idea whether the meeting will take place, as the club hasn’t even had the courtesy to reply to forum members who have asked if it is actually going to happen as scheduled by them.

When the minutes of the last meeting on 25 April 2018 were released, the club guaranteed that the next meeting would take place on 28 August 2018, then another on 12 February 2019 and following that 21 May 2019.

These set dates were in response to the club continually messing the Fans Forum members about, regularly delaying meetings and indeed there had been a disgraceful 10 month gap between the previous one (29 June 2017) and that most recent meeting (25 April 2018). The club refusing requests to meet all season as Mike Ashley had undermined Rafa Benitez, failing to keep promises on transfer funds and leading to a season long relegation battle. Only once safety was assured did that April meeting take place.

This is the club’s commitment to the Newcastle United Fans Forum for future meetings, from the minutes of that 25 April 2018 meeting:

The club apologised for delays in the regularity of Fans Forum meetings.

Phil Lee (PL) was concerned that the club could be seen as not being committed to the Fans Forum process.

The club accepted that view but hoped that supporters who had been involved with the process since 2013 would acknowledge how committed the club has been to communicating openly as part of the Forum.

Steve Hastie (SH) stated that Arsenal run Fans Forums on matchdays and enquired as to whether this would be possible.

The club advised that several members of the management team would be operational on matchdays and that this would negatively impact the time and attention that could be given to meetings.

Peter Fanning (PF) suggested committing to dates for future meetings would send out a positive message about the club’s commitment to the Fans Forum.

The club agreed and has proposed the following dates for future Fans Forums: Tuesday 28th August 2018; Tuesday 12th February 2019; Tuesday 21st May 2019.

The Newcastle United Fans Forum is a total joke compared to how other clubs present theirs, elsewhere they make footage of the meetings available so all supporters can see and hear what is said from both sides. Not Newcastle, the wider fanbase only gets to read the carefully controlled minutes released by the club. Not saying that what is included in the minutes are lies – but rather we don’t get to see/read what isn’t included in the minutes that are prepared/controlled by NUFC.

As one previous example of the contempt shown by the club to the Newcastle United Fans Forum, I will take you back to one of the many previous relegation battles under Mike Ashley, the 2014/15 season when Newcastle only reached safety on the final day of the season (Jonas Gutierrez scoring in that 2-0 win over West Ham).

With relegation threatening and the fans very unhappy with what was happening at the club, the Fans Forum members sent a collective letter on 21 April 2015 asking for an urgent meeting with Lee Charnley and the other club officials (NUFC having always repeatedly refused all previous requests for Mike Ashley himself to attend at least on Fans Forum to address supporter concerns).

Charnley actually replied only five days later (see below) and actually agreed to meet the fans ASAP, before the scheduled end of season Newcastle United Fans Forum meeting.

However…despite forum members repeatedly reminding the club/Lee Charnley of this commitment to an urgent meeting, their emails were ignored and no such meeting took place.

It was actually 6 July 2015 when the next Forum meeting took place, fully 71 days after Lee Charnley had agreed to an urgent meeting before the end of the season (that West Ham match was 24 May 2015).

Lee Charnley letter to NUFC Fans Forum members – 26 April 2015

“In order to discuss the issues you raise, I intend to bring forward the date of our next Fans Forum meeting which was originally scheduled for the end of the season.

“I am sure Forum members past and present will agree that the Club has been open and transparent during all interactions, including meetings and correspondence, and this next meeting will be no different.

“In my opinion, the introduction of the Forum has been productive for all the parties involved and, as we move forward, the Forum will continue to be one of our preferred forms of fan communication and engagement.

“With five games now remaining of the season – including three at St. James’ Park, I would ask you, indeed all supporters, to get fully behind John Carver and the players as they look to finish the season as strongly as possible.

“When St. James’ Park is loud and supportive of the team on the pitch, it does make a huge difference.”

“We accept mistakes have been made and understand you raise these issues because you want the best for your football club.

“Please be assured we want the same – we want to give you a football club you can be proud of and a team you feel passionate to support.”



  • SuperDesHamilton

    I wonder if Monkseaton is going, a miss him.

    It’s a bit strange that him clarko, Ghostrider have all stopped commenting at the same time.

    Then Martin Rooney vodkamagpie & a few others always post at the same time then go quiet for a few days then start up again

    • Carverlier football

      Oh Clarko’s been on quite a bit recently under the alias CKO

      • Kenny

        that lad has issues

        • Ron

          Seems to have a problem with truth.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        He’s definitely got problems no doubt about it. Benitez rattled his bird

      • SuperDesHamilton

        Where is the main man Monk anyway, why’s he not posting anymore. We both had one thing in common, hatred for those two self proclaimed Uber fans Jezza & Leazes. Maximus to but that drunk had enough and left

    • Kenny

      Trolls

    • Ron

      They have been booked to answer the questions – a larger lift is being shipped in to hold the meeting.

    • David Richard McMeekan

      Sad to say Monkseaton is banned but he wishes you all the best. You could ask Jonathan Drape to have a word with Mark Jensen to get him reinstated.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        Why’s he banned?! I disagree with everything he says but he was harmless yet you’ve got absolute gonks still allowed to make multiple accounts up

      • Jezza

        No problem, he’ll just log in and continue trolling under one or more of his 20 odd other ID’s.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          I’d rather him anyway then you, you boring gonk

  • Leazes.

    Where did Sky’s money go?
    Why did the club give away the Strawberry Place development land?
    There was £1m money in the Strawberry Place holding company what happened to it?
    Why has the owner not been to a game for over 12 months?
    What does ‘every last penny’ mean?
    Why do you write off the season before it starts?
    Does the clubs money go into the same holding account that bought House of Fraser?
    Why are you buying poor quality players and not competing with competitors?
    Why are you treating the best manager the club has attracted with disdain instead of building on his knowledge and experience?
    What happened to the promise of SD to pay the club for its advertising?
    Why is the stadium and facilities starved of modernisation and maintenance?
    Why is the squad so threadbare?
    Are you happy with the levels of marketing revenue from SD?
    Would you say you were a fit and proper person to run a football club?
    Would you say Mike Ashley is a fit and proper person to own a football club?
    What is this regimes greatest achievement in 11 seasons?

    • Kenny

      Pass on the lot

    • Ron

      Last question – were there any achievements in the last 11 seasons, gaining promotion cannot count if you were to blame for the relegation?

      • Leazes.

        Bit like having a dent knocked out of your wing…. and then congratulating yourself on the filler job and respray.

        • Ron

          Great analogy

    • Toontaff

      Can I have 2 sugars in my tea?

      • Leazes.

        No! the budget doesn’t stretch that far.

    • Pezza

      The strawberry place land was sold with the shares in MGM NCL for £6m

    • Wezza

      All great questions that wouldn’t be ‘considered’!

  • Rabid Dog

    Its a ticky box exercise that only pays lip service to the intent of the process it’s supposed to deliver. There is no real engagement. Only a prepared message track that everyone sticks to.

  • Stephen

    With any luck
    The Sold sign will be up.
    But not holding my breath until.

  • Hughie

    Transparency– No!! A complete fiasco stage managed by an owner and MD who are too timid and cowardly to undertake open public engagement and meaningful dialogue. This “forum” simply adds to the incompetence list which grows by the day and makes them look even more unfit for purpose to run a multi million pound public facing entertainment business. At a stroke they could win friends and influence people by holding an open forum and telling the truth about all the obvious questions which need to be answered. Perhaps the most important one might be “Why do you not apply risk management to your running of the club? By failing to invest and repeating the risk of relegation and fostering negative publicity not only locally but nationally and internationally, you are losing Sports Direct, the club and everybody involved with it millions of pounds. It is a completely false economic model-please explain the logic behind your approach”

    • Ron

      Forum! It’ll not make the grade of a Threeum

      • Leazes.

        forum

        noun: a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

        Why are all of the top accountancy companies avoiding NUFC?

        Why did accountants Ernst and Young advise Charnley to ‘Consult a legal adviser over their resignation?

        • Ron

          Just a passing thought but do you think their Professional Indemnity Insurance wouldn’t cover the risk?

          They also have to write to clearance from the retiring auditor to see if there is no professional reason why they shouldn’t accept the appointment. Now given Ernst and Young resigned there could well be something we haven’t been told. Don’t you think? Why else would he be told to get legal advice?

          • Leazes.

            Just my opinion but I think they dealt with the Strawberry Place holding Company and money went missing from its account which hasn’t show up. The Board didn’t secure the land for the company which was on the holders interest, and the auditors think its dodgy.

          • Ron

            A the risk of broadcasting something, if the auditors thought the money was misappropriated then under Anti-Money Laundering legislation they have a duty to report (or face a prison term of up to 5 years – so they would report) to National Crime Agency ( NCA ) by sending a Suspicious Activity Report ( SAR ). If such a report has been sent the best they could hope for is a visit from HMRC but could expect the fraud squad or other police linked criminal investigation.

          • Leazes.

            Lets hope Charnley is clear of any wrongdoing then.

          • BigHairyDog

            If it comes to criminal charges Ashley has his perfect fall guy, Charnley’s to stupid to see it.

        • Sickandtired

          And now Grant Thornton, the club’s current auditors, are under investigation concerning SD.
          “The (FRC) investigation has arisen because SD Retail reportedly used Barlin Delivery to provide deliveries to their customers and made hundreds of thousands of pounds in undisclosed payments to the logistics company.”
          Considering the club made a miserly £180,000 out of buying our own branded merchandise from SD/Ashley…..

          • Leazes.

            is that all ….. good grief

  • Ron

    Will any questions be allowed?

  • Cockneytrev

    Just one question
    WHERES THE MONEY ASHLEY????

  • BigHairyDog

    If Ashley ever attended the meeting would last less than 15 minutes and nobody would be allowed to ask him questions.