Richard Keys is at it again.

Yes, I hear you saying just ignore him, but his latest Newcastle United stupidity/mischief does really have to be answered.

For whatever reason, the disgraced former Sky Sports presenter is recently taking an ever increasing unhealthy interest in the affairs of Newcastle United.

Richard Keys determined to back up Mike Ashley, for who knows what reason, as well as repeatedly having a go at both Rafa Benitez and the Newcastle fans.

His latest stroke of genius just doesn’t make sense on so many levels.

No idea who takes the credit, whether it is Keys’ own work, or this is more of Keith Bishop’s nonsense on behalf of Mike Ashley.

Even if you assume Richard Keys’ figures are correct, how on earth is this convincing anybody that Rafa Benitez is doing a bad job?

In fact the big message that is glaring, is just how rubbish life is under Mike Ashley. According to these Keys/Bishop calculations, under the two managers in total, Mike Ashley has made a £73m profit in the transfer market!

Also, Richard Keys clearly wants us to all forget that since Pardew left Newcastle in 2014, we have seen the most ridiculous transfer inflation that football has ever seen. So what you could get for £91m in 2010-2014, is a hell of a lot more bang for your buck than you get for the £124m spent by Rafa in 2016-2018.

There are other just as glaring factors that Richard Keys doesn’t want to acknowledge.

Pardew took over a team safely in Premier League mid-table in 2010, whilst Rafa took over a side in 2016 in the bottom three with 10 games to go, that was all but already relegated.

Maybe the most notable thing though is that when you see what the two managers inherited that they had available for the following season.

Chris Hughton had done a brilliant job and after promotion as champions with 102 points, he was treated disgracefully by Mike Ashley, determined to get rid of him and bring in a puppet.

Richard Keys spotlights that 5th place finish the season afterwards.

Pardew had in that team:

Tim Krul (Dutch international)

Fabricio Coloccini (Argentine international)

Jonas Gutierrez (Argentine international)

Hatem Ben Arfa (French international)

Cheick Tiote (Ivory Coast international)

Danny Simpson (Future Premier League winner)

As well as those there were Steven Taylor, Ryan Taylor, James Perch, Shola Ameobi, Steve Harper, Mike Williamson, Leon Best and Danny Guthrie – all very decent first team and/or squad players. All of these players above inherited by Alan Pardew from Chris Hughton.

Fast forward to 2016 and Rafa Benitez, there was a wholesale exodus at the end of the season, two months after he had taken over.

Wijnaldum, Townsend, Janmaat, Sissoko, Thauvin, Cisse, all insisted on leaving. Whilst the likes of Coloccini, Steven Taylor, de Jong and Krul were all past their best and also left. Rafa also had to clear out a lot of poor players, such as Marveaux, Obertan, Sammy Ameobi, Doumbia, Saivet and Riviere.

Altogether, there is already 16 players, the bottom line is that Rafa Benitez had to pretty much totally rebuild the squad to try and get promotion, not just bring in a few players as Alan Pardew did in summer 2011. For the record, the only two notable players that were sold for fees, were Kevin Nolan and Jose Enrique, two good players but nothing compared to the host of shirts Rafa Benitez had to fill.

To portray Rafa Benitez as somehow doing badly when he has won instant promotion as champions, finished 10th in the Premier League, AND made a £40m transfer profit..you would clearly have to think that these are the claims of a desperate bitter simpleton.

Over to you Richard.

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  • Paul Patterson

    Just ignore him..

  • Steve Smith

    Rafa wins approximately 20% more often and loses about 50% less often than Pardew, with an inferior squad and lower net spend.

    Pardew’s lack of draws and Rafa’s abundance of them dilutes their win %.

    Considering points are achieved for draws the loss % would be a more accurate reflection of the gulf in managerial ability.

  • TheFatController

    Never forget, Keys is a child in a man’s body.

    The emotional retardation of a man capable of chasing his daughter’s friend whilst his wife has been diagnosed with cancer cannot be charted.

    That’s he is ‘the chosen one’ for Ashley’s campaign should neither surprise us, nor worry us.

  • Dutch

    It did not need to be answered. Your just feeding us with ridiculous click baiting material.

  • Big Hairy Man

    Keys the sex-pest is unemployable in the UK and anywhere else where sexism in the workplace is not tolerated so he is banished to the Middle East. Apart from that he is a prize 🔔🔚.

    • TheFatController

      He’s also been caught making racist comments. He’s comprehensive for all his faults.

      • Big Hairy Man

        Another string to his bow. He’s a model citizen.

    • Jezza

      Just a sad pathetic has been who can’t come to terms with the fact that he’s not a celebrity any more.

      • Ron

        Just a sad pathetic never was who can’t come to terms with the fact that he’s never been a celebrity and never will be.

  • ICKOI

    ‘Pardew took over a team safely in Premier League mid-table in 2010, whilst Rafa took over a side in 2016 in the bottom three with 10 games to go, that was all but already relegated’

    When Pardew took over in December 2010 Newcastle, who were newly promoted, were 12th in the Premier League and just four points clear of the relegation zone, I wouldn’t call that a safe position. Benitez took over when Newcastle were one point away from safety with ten Premier League games remaining, that’s thirty points to play for, I wouldn’t call that ‘already relegated’…

    • TheFatController

      I think you’ve excelled yourself there.

      With stupidity.

      Explain ‘one point from safety with ten games to go’? That’s be, say, 39 points from 28 games ….

      • Kenny

        He’s another scum troll

        • TheFatController

          I love him already. Ashley apologists running around d pulling their hair out hat it’s not blown over now we’re in September.

          That the apologists are mix of jailbirds, philanderering/fired for misconduct scum and a little weird is fantastic.

        • Jezza

          Not another one. The same one posting under another ID. You can always spot him a mile off.

          • Kenny

            Yes

          • Westdentoon

            Their patter is always the same, so predictable now…

          • Wezza

            This one would be Kevin Lee, the dopey one.

      • ICKOI

        When Benitez took over, Newcastle were one point away from safety with 24 points in 19th position with 28 games played, Sunderland who had 25 points were in 17th position with 29 games played.

        • TheFatController

          You have so many facts at your fingertips.

          Why? Is it an obsession?

          You’re weird my friend. But in an entertaining way.

          • ICKOI

            It’s called research, it’s called being informed, educated, I like to know what I’m talking about before I decide to talk about it, I like to have all the facts at my fingertips so when I’m challenged I can provide those facts.

          • TheFatController

            Come on, let’s not get diverted away from the major points.

            Rafa has won plenty in the game, for us he got us promoted and to tenth.

            Ashley has got us relegated twice, given us no cup runs domestically and one medium one in Europe, and got us to fifth once, before an immediate regression. All achieved by huge spend which has doubled the debt.

            Facts can be a very revealing thing. Let’s use them, I agree. Research, qualify, summarize.

            But use the big picture over time it’s a better indicator than a short snapshot in time, I think we can all agree.

          • ICKOI

            Ashley was still our owner when we were promoted and when we finished tenth…

            Benitez was our manager when we were relegated…

            You can’t pick any chose who gets the credit or who takes the blame without providing an actual argument just because it suits your personal view/bias.

          • TheFatController

            Yes I can. Ashley has ammanager that gets results. Just like Hughton and Keegan.

            That he falls out with good employees in the club’s top position is my argument against him.

            That’s not bias. Keegan has gone, hughton too, Rafa has nine months.

            You can’t praise recruitment if you lose good recruits.

            You’re making us all chuckle I imagine. I am chuckling, can’t speak for others but hope they are..

          • ICKOI

            I can’t provide a counter argument when you haven’t provided an argument to counter.

          • TheFatController

            No argument, fact, Ashley can’t manage his best performing staff well.

            There is no counter argument to a fact. Don’t fret about it therefore.

          • Ram Kishore

            I do agree with few of your previous comments but at the same that when it comes to relegation or lose Ashley’s name is referred and if it’s a win it is referred to those of a manager and not Ashley..

            But I also agree with Fatcontroller
            Ashley is losing his best recruits isn’t he?

          • CKO

            I didn’t make an argument regarding Ashley, that’s what you call a straw man.

          • Ram Kishore

            Why is your reply so bizarre.. i mean u r deflecting my question ig.
            U did make a comment mentioning Ashley is it not?
            “Ashley was still our owner when we were promoted and when we finished tenth…”

          • CKO

            Why are your replies so stupid? I didn’t deflect your question, your question was a straw man, I didn’t and don’t want to argue about Ashley.

            Go back and read the conversation.

          • Ram Kishore

            Ok lol.. i didn’t know u didn’t want to comment about Ashley . Chill

          • CKO

            Why are you telling ‘chill’? You would’ve known that the discussion wasn’t about Ashley if you had bothered to read the discussion or if you had bothered to read my first reply to you, instead you have been messaging me for the last 3 days asking me to repeat myself and to explain how I’m right over and over again.

          • Ram Kishore

            Ok pal. I understood and as a way of saying it’s all ok. I used the word Chill.
            Don’t boil over it.
            And i have messaged u only since yesterday morning .. Not 3 days.

          • CKO

            Actually it has been 5 days:

            ‘Yeah sorry lol.. i misread it. Why do u have get mad at yourself lol.. chill’

          • Ram Kishore

            Oh u r clarko.. how am I supposed to know it’s u pal

          • CKO

            My name. My comments.

          • Westdentoon

            I’m pi**ing my pants!

            To even suggest Parsnip is anywhere near Rafa is insanity at best.

            For someone whom is so factually educated and self confident, he knows f*ckall about football..

          • panther

            doubt hes educated just full of [email protected]@@

          • Big Hairy Man

            What have you been smoking? Ashley was our owner when we were relegated twice due to penny pinching and asset stripping (selling anyone with value regardless of the detriment to team). He is a cancer and you are a n0b 🔚

          • ICKOI

            ‘Ashley was our owner when we were relegated twice’

            I never said he wasn’t.

            Did you know that Benitez was our manager the last time we were relegated?

          • panther

            if we had of got Rafa earlier, we wouldnt have been relegated, those ten games nd the results we got thats top 6-7 form, yellow suits you

          • CKO

            Did we get relegated? Yes we did.

          • Ron

            Arsley was owner when got relegated twice.

            Moron troll cretin

          • ICKOI

            I never said he wasn’t….

            Some people really struggle to follow a conversation.

          • Ron

            You argued that Ashley was owner when we got promoted but he was the same owener that got us relegated. Don’t you understand that?

          • ICKOI

            ‘Ashley has got us relegated twice, given us no cup runs domestically and one medium one in Europe, and got us to fifth once, before an immediate regression. All achieved by huge spend which has doubled the debt’

            You can’t follow a conversation. Don’t you understand that?

          • Ron

            I understand that he’s made more than he’s spent at the same time increasing (his own) debts. If he can’t make his accounts balance when failing to reinvest the profits made and also incurring larger debts then to say he’s incompetant would be paying him a compliment.

            I also understand that you are an old troll with a new name – and are now blocked – go away.

          • CKO

            Yeah, you were wrong.

          • Ron

            I see that schools out.

            Blocked again, Clarko, isn’t it – you’re not worth the effort

            Troll

          • CKO

            👋🏼

          • panther

            Ashley was also the reason we got relegated twice

          • glassjawsh-got-banned

            clarko? is that you?

          • ICKOI

            Yes.

          • glassjawsh-got-banned

            blocked

          • ICKOI

            👋🏼

          • SuperDesHamilton

            You’re challenged alright

          • Sickandtired

            Can you count, Mr Educated Informed? Pardew was appointed on 11th December and had 22 matches.
            Rafa was appointed on 11th March and had 10 matches.
            F’n coconut.

          • ICKOI

            I can count but you certainly can’t read because you’ve completely missed the point of my argument, by the looks of it, you missed my whole argument…

          • panther

            we obviously arent as intelligent as you, so why do waste youre time here on us unworthy morons? surely youre towering intellect should be used to stop terrorism and cure world hunger?just seems a shame you waste youre time here, trying to educate us fools on how wrong we are

          • Ram Kishore

            What’s the missed argument ?
            I think Sickandtired has stayed relevant to the argument on your comparison between Pardew and Rafa and quoting the facts under Houghton too.

            Can u just quote the argument he missed?

          • CKO

            I wasn’t comparing Benitez and Pardew, I’ve never compared them…

          • Ram Kishore

            Then whats the missed argument?
            Isn’t the whole thread is about keys comparing Rafa and Alan?.
            You were quoting facts about Rafa and Pardew’s managerial stint..

            What does your post really talk about then?

            It’s confusing pal.

          • CKO

            This is a you problem Ram, not a me problem, I never compared the two managers, go back and read my first comment, I was taking issue with the author of the article and what he said.

            Pardew didn’t inherit a team ‘safely’ secured in the PL, Benitez didn’t inherit a team that was ‘already relegated’.

            Nowhere did I compare the two managers, making every comment that tries to compares the two managers as a response to my comment stupid.

            Learn to read Ram.

          • Wezza

            Good one! The troll can’t count and was caught out lying. Look how he likes to insinuate somebody ‘misses the point’ to cover up his uselessness. This one is Kevin Lee, the dopey one.

          • Ron

            Educated – O level spitting and what else?

          • panther

            almost like he has an agenda

          • ICKOI

            What agenda would that be?

          • Kenny

            You’re scum troll vermin
            🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

          • Ron

            troll

          • panther

            guessing youre still a virgin and your mam ignores you so youre here trying to get attention

          • CKO

            Hey look at that, you couldn’t even make up an agenda…

    • Kenny

      Get back in your bin troll vermin
      🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • Sickandtired

      Par who? Where is he?

    • Jezza

      Troll.

    • Superdooperhooper

      So ? What’s your point ? Are you saying that pardew is a better manager than rafa? Hang on a minute…..pedantic nitpicking…CKO…it’s clarko isn’t it ?

    • Carverlier football

      Pardew took over a team averaging 1.2 points per game that season and himself averaged… 1.2 points per game. Rafa took over a team averaging 0.9 points per game and himself averaged… 1.3 points per game. Quoting selective stats is fun!

      • CKO

        Yeah, you can’t read, I wasn’t comparing Pardew and Benitez.

        • Carverlier football

          Yeah, you can’t read, I didn’t say you were. You appear to have lost a couple of I’s

          • CKO

            Then why did you reply with a comment comparing the two managers? Are you stupid?

          • Carverlier football

            No. I think I explained quite clearly in the post: quoting selected stats is fun! You of all people should understand that.

          • CKO

            I didn’t quote ‘selected stats’, I quoted the ‘stats’ that were relevant to the issue I had with the article, that issue being that Pardew didn’t inherit a Newcastle team that were safe and Benitez didn’t inherit a Newcastle team that was already relegated when they both took over as manager. What you did was quote stats that were completely irrelevent to my comment, all you have done is made yourself look incredibly stupid.

          • Carverlier football

            What you actually did was get all pedantic over semantics. The stats I quoted actually illustrate the point the author was trying to make, that being that Pardew inherited a team which was in good enough form at that time to be on course for a points haul which would ensure survival, and Rafa inherited a demoralised team in relegation form – and given that a significant improvement in form still wasn’t enough to save us in the few games that were remaining, the author can be forgiven for the hyperbole of describing us as “already relegated”. I’m assuming you never read any fiction, the metaphors would really annoy you… Anyway, I’m not sure why you’re bothered – I was replying to ICKOI, not you CKO ;)

          • CKO

            ‘The stats I quoted actually illustrate the point the author was trying to make’

            Nope, you cannot speak for the author, he made his point and his point was that Pardew ‘took over a team safely in Premier League’ and that Benitez took over a team that was ‘already relegated’. None of those two statements are true/fair.

          • Carverlier football

            Oh I can’t speak for the author? I can’t read something, process it and come to a conclusion as to what their general point was? Are you the thought police? Is this some sort of dystopian future? Did I say you’d used selective stats in that particular post? I think you’ll find that I said you should understand selective stats, given that is kinda your “thing” particularly when posting under your more well known alias. The best thing, though, is that the real relevance of those stats to the gist of the article (as an illustration of Keys’ shonky and flawed statistical “analysis”, which I note escaped your massive intellect and nose for pedantry for some reason – see? Selective… ) only really crystallised when I was writing that response. The chief intention of the original post was purely to annoy you – and it seems to me that it was mission accomplished…

          • CKO

            We know exactly what the point was, I don’t know how many times I have to repeat/quote it:

            ‘Pardew took over a team safely in Premier League mid-table in 2010, whilst Rafa took over a side in 2016 in the bottom three with 10 games to go, that was all but already relegated’

            Nowhere in that quote does the author say anything about Pardew maintaining his predecessors points per game average and nowhere does it saying anything about Benitez improving on his predecessors points per game average.

            I’m not arguing about Keys’ stats, I’m arguing about the quote provided above and how it was wrong, it was. I’m arguing about your use of stats and how they were completely irrelevant to my comment, they were. I’m arguing about you accusing me using selective stats and how that was wrong, it was.

            You can hide behind the excuse of “I was just trying to annoy you” all you want but we both know that you’ve made a fool of yourself.

            Have fun 👋🏼

  • BanJones

    I’ll be with you in a minute, just hanging out of my daughter’s friend.

    • TheFatController

      Decent men raise money in the event of cancer affecting their family.

      Richard raises daughter’s friend’s skirts.

      • Big Hairy Man

        With his werewolf hands.

    • SuperDesHamilton

      As he steps around the chemo machine…the absolute scum bag

  • Kenny

    Who gives a schitt what that scum has to say 💩

  • molend

    This is very disappointing. The Mag isn’t a national newspaper trying to attract clicks and therefore publishing some outrageous article. I thought it catered to NUFC supporters. So don’t even air the views of somebody who’s obviously working to the detriment of the club. What insight has he added to the discussion of the present plight of of NUFC? We shouldn’t be getting dragged into Ashley’s mind games

  • Sickandtired

    And £73 million profit!

    • Carverlier football

      109 would be about right for Rafas total games in charge. He’s misusing his stats. To nobody’s surprise…

  • SuperDesHamilton

    Times like this upset me because I’m permanently banned from twitter and can’t get in on the abuse towards teen wolf

    • Kenny

      Not to worry I just got a 12 hour ban calling him C

      • SuperDesHamilton

        I got perma banned last year and it’s still annoying is now

        • Kenny

          Try an appeal

          • SuperDesHamilton

            A did, some old toon fan was arguing Pardew and allardyce were better than Benitez so I said a
            Hope his heating breaks in the winter and that was the final straw

          • Sickandtired

            He goes into hibernation, man. That’s why no one has seen him and he is missing from SD AGM.

          • panther

            hahahaha

        • drc74

          now i didnt get banned for calling tony blair a C, 😂

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Cundy was doing his usual stchick about hating northerners so I asked him which part of his wife wasn’t recyclable and he blocked me

    • Danimal

      Even Donald Trump isn’t banned from Titter. What have you said???

      • SuperDesHamilton

        Who to, stan collymore, Jason cundy, Curtis woodhouse, Adrian Dunham, Michael Barrymore the list is endless haha

        • panther

          I need to get on twitter

          • SuperDesHamilton

            A asked Barrymore if he knew any decent pool parties, as you expect it didn’t go down well

        • Ram Kishore

          😂😂 man u r funny

  • Alex

    That was before Ashley discovered his new ‘business model’.

    In Pardew’s day (and those immediately following), the model was to get a couple of half-decent buys, reasonable money, let them flourish and sell. And, that initial player cost would be offset by paying a pittance to a second rater like Pardew.

    Then, Ashley stumbled across his new business model. Buy seriously low where needed, next to no outlay, but spend £6m a year on a brilliant manager to look after them.

    The cheaper way of doing things is his new way.

    • BanJones

      Nailed it.

    • Carverlier football

      Until the manager walks…

  • glassjawsh-got-banned

    Here’s a stat for you,
    Number of 3+ goal thrashings: Rafa 4, Pards 21
    end of

    • Alex

      Good one.

      Pards would win 2-0 on headbuts and ‘silly old knuts’, too.

  • Stephen Ramshaw

    Probably passed off watching raffa park the bus every game.

    • malcolm pritchard

      Hi, Stephen! Hasn’t Sunderland got a Fanzine for you to read anymore? Ha, Ha! SMB

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    How can that even stand up due to the amount of games Pardew had in charge as opposed to Benetiz ?

    • Sickandtired

      Coz he can’t count or just wants to blatantly lie. Rafa has only had 2 full seasons. 46 + 38 does not = 109!

      • Ron

        must have played a lot of extra time

    • Viru leckworth

      And what has Pardew done since? Oh yes been sacked – twice. Ridiculous comparison Richard.

    • panther

      it cant, hes just trying to manipulate the facts

  • Toontaff

    EU should block the minions and the trolls, not the newsnow headlines!

  • DC1964

    He’s giving Steve Bruce a run for his money in the Mrs Doubtfire lookalike stakes!

    • Dave Pattinson

      Who would imagine that from such a small mouth would pour so much drivel & bile.

  • Fisherking

    He should consentrate on repairing his relationship with his daughter after running of with her teenage friend than commenting on something he knows nothing about

    • panther

      he has to pay the bills and Ashley probably wrote this and paid him to put his name on it

      • Down Under Mag

        You mean Bishop wrote it….are we even sure Ashley is literate??

  • Nut

    Keys is being a moron even to compare the two, they are hardly in the same league.

    However whatever his agenda is has yet to be seen.

    As for Rafa

  • Superdooperhooper

    He’s getting some hilarious abuse on twitter tonight! And keys is plugging a sympathetic article about allardyce! Are we being primed for the return of big sam? Anything but that !

    • panther

      we wont be sympathetic to that greedy scumbag

    • Jonas

      The mackems say he’s great.
      West Ham, Blackburn, Everton and ourselves who found his football hideous are obviously all wrong.

  • Danimal

    How can someone be so ignorant when they have access to all the stats? A few years ago, I was about two thirds of the way through Andy Gray’s autobiography when he gave his version of KK’s “I’d love it”. He (Gray) changed the story from an away win at Leeds (which happened) to a defeat at Forest (didn’t happen,we drew there and not on the evening in question). How can his ramblings in his awful book or his moribund broadcasting career carry any weight at all? In terms of a review, it was a book I definitely could put down. And did, the moment I realised it was full of shyte.

  • Jimblag23

    Something is definitely up with this guy.
    It’s like a full on vendetta against Rafa. He’s definitely not doing this just for fun 🤑🤑🤑

    • panther

      almost like someones paying him eh?

  • Danimal

    Where’s VodkaMonkfish?

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Spontaneously combusting

      • gordon

        posting on twitter using the pseudonym twitchytoes rofl

  • Wezza

    This PR is getting laughable now. They’re rattled big time and they can’t even get the propaganda believable.
    We need to keep going with this!

  • bob0411

    Jesus, who ate all the pies? He’s not ageing well is he? No wonder he’s such a bitter old man!

  • Carverlier football

    Meh, the beIN thing was a disgrace, this is just your run-of-the-mill Keys nonsense to be completely ignored

  • Jonas

    He puts a lot of thought into us yet avoids so much, all the evidence to the contrary that its not normal.
    I’d say he’s getting seriously creepy, but he’s long since been the major of that.

  • Down Under Mag

    Sad little man (well not so little looking at that photo), clearly attempting to make himself feel better by harping on about Ashley, Rafa and the NUFC fans. It is getting a little concerning that he is more worried about us than he is about his own well being and situation – or could it be there is some kind of financial incentive going around? I think we all suspect the answer to that one.

  • Rafa

    Pardew did a good job under the awful fat controller. So has Rafa. What is Richard Pointless Keys point exactly? Oops hope he doesn’t press charges

  • Rafa

    On another note hasn’t school term started again this week? He needs to make sure his new girlfriend is doing her homework rather than spout rubbish about Rafa

  • Yemzzy Ad Sr

    Seriously, i wish I could get Richard Keys in the ring with one of my hands tied up….. I’ll knock him straight out…enuf said…🙄🙄

  • Down Under Mag

    I think the massive profit for both managers and still no sign of the debt being lowered is the real issue here… #whereisthemoneyAshley

  • SuperDesHamilton

    Keys and his pals absolutely despise foreigners that’s the top & bottom of it. It’s always directed at foreign players or managers. He’s a xenophobic, racist, fat, hairy weirdo.

    He wants his brexit now despite taking blood money from the second biggest fundraisers of Terrorism Qatar & being banished there.

  • Wor Lass

    Sorry, Matthew. Whilst I do agree with the point you`re making about Keys`s pathetic trolling of our club and fans, I have to pick you up on the evidence you present of Pardew having such a fantastic squad compared to Rafa. Cast your mind back to the mag and the Chronic comments section back in those days and you should recall players like, “… Steven Taylor, Ryan Taylor, James Perch, Shola Ameobi, Steve Harper, Mike Williamson, Leon Best and Danny Guthrie …” being absolutely lambasted by posters for being either sick notes, totally useless – or both! Colo and Danny Simpson copped for a fair bit of stick as well. Why can`t people just give Pardew a bit of credit for achieving something decent against the odds. He was still an arrogant pr1ck and hung around too long but did really well that season. It doesn`t undermine Rafa to recognise that.

    • Billmag

      Wor Lass I’m sorry but I have to take issue with you here, for a kick off to even put Pardew’s name alongside Rafa Benitez is sacrilege, and I for one won’t give that loser Pardew any credit what’s so ever. His record against our most hated rivals was horrendous, his abusing of a fellow manager was shocking to say the least, actually head butting an opposing player was disgraceful and getting beat 0-6 off the bin dippers was embarrassing, just a few instances where Pardew should never be mentioned in the same breath as Rafael Benitez.

      • Wor Lass

        I would have sacked him for his abuse of Pelligrini – disgraceful behaviour that brought our name down to gutter level. He made a complete idiot of himself with Myler but didn`t remotely headbutt him, though. The man was a to$$er of the first order but he was still in charge when we got 5th then had a run in Europe. We don`t have to compare him with Rafa – who is a human being on a much higher plane – but we could just say fair do`s for what he achieved. That`s all.

    • Alreet

      No…. he had a perfect storm when it came to a formation that worked for all players. A golden egg if you will with ben arfa, cisse, demba ba. Then tiote and cabaye looking the best pairing since gary speed and rob lee. Nowt to do with pardew and everything to do with the quality that Carr found at the time.

      Pards proved his papness at palace and brom. Easily forget

      • Wor Lass

        That`s the thing isn`t it. Everything good that happened was pure luck for him and down to other people but everything bad that happened was his fault because he was $hit.

        • Alreet

          Ok lets do match up. Money and player wise. What has benitez had in the shape of players that are in the same shape as pardew.

          Cabaye and shelvey…..nope. goals and assists ratio is way off. Tiote and Diame….. no…. diame is nowhere close to tiote for presence and passion.

          Colo and lascelles…. jamal has a fair bit to do to get a player of the season award and be in the prem team of the year.

          Theres been nothing like benny. Cisse or Ba since either.

          Please dont compare. If rafa had that team he would have been top 5 and won the euro cup. Thats what he does.

          • Wor Lass

            Try to get your head around this, mate. I`m NOT comparing Rafa to ANYONE, least of all Pardew – who couldn`t hold a candle to him either as a human being or a manager. What I AM saying is that, for a while, Pardew did a job and had a succesful season. He played similar stuff to Rafa but was roundly slated for it. Tiote and Cabaye were immense that season but no doubt in my mind, the player who made it all possible was Demba Ba but it was Pardew who played him and Cisse in the second half of the season in that way. I don`t like the guy, I definitely would have sacked him for his abuse of Peligrini, but I also don`t mind saying, “Fair dues, you had a good season”. That`s as far as it goes.

  • Andy Mac

    Presumably Keys and Gray are desperate for money even if it is Fatman’s tainted dosh ?