West Brom fans weren’t impressed when they watched their relegated team lose at home to Bolton last weekend.
Like Newcastle supporters, they have watched on as a very protracted swap loan deal involving Salomon Rondon and Dwight Gayle, has only just come to a conclusion this week.
Who, if anybody, has got the best side of the deal.
Some interesting comments from West Brom fans below but a little like Newcastle supporters, they believe much will depend on the quality of service to their new centre-forward.
West Brom fans comment via their top West Brom Index message board:
‘Rondon didn’t want to be here, kissing the badge and all that c**p, couldn’t wait to get away.
We’ll never know if Rondon would have scored goals in the EFL but Gayle’s record speakers for itself .
lf he scores 23 goals for us at this level like he did for NUFC then we’ll get promoted.’
‘We also don’t know that Gayle will score goals for us at this level.
Those 23 were in a Newcastle team which walked the division, and in doing so probably created plenty of chances. Why do people talk as though system and tactics have no impact on player performances?’
‘Whether Rondon is a goalscorer or not can be debated over and over, but one thing nobody can deny is that he possesses other attributes to his game which make him valuable in a number of systems.
Not sure Gayle has too much to offer behind goalscoring, and if we don’t create the chances then he will be quite anonymous for us.’
‘Shame we will never know how Rondon would have fared, personally sorry to see him go as always gave his all and ploughed a lone furrow doing a thankless job at times, having balls hit AT him rather than FOR him.
Still let’s be optimistic , we have in Gayle a proven goal scorer at this level, my only doubt is do we have a provider for him.
Really hope he can get us the goals we will need even to challenge for a top six place as on Saturday it was obvious that we were so lacking in so many areas but a good striker is vital to any team with any ambition to seriously mount any sort of promotion push.’
‘People have been crying out for a goalscorer…now we have one.
I wish Gayle nothing but the best and I’ve always rated him to be fair. Football is a shark tank business I don’t see it as anything less these days.’
‘I wonder how this signing has affected our wage structure. Most, if not all, of last season’s squad have had to take a big drop in wages.
There’s no way that Gayle will have taken a pay cut to drop down from the Premier League. Is that £2m being paid to us as part of the deal a hidden way of making up with the shortfall?’
‘My Newcastle friends are adamant that they are paying half his wage for the period of the loan….and aren’t happy about it.
They say that who paid his wages was always the only sticking point in the deal..’
‘Welcome to the club Dwight Gayle. I just pray we play to your strengths and don’t expect you to spend the entire game chasing long punts up to you.
Has the potential to be a season defining signing, this one.’
‘If we give this lad the service we could be in for a very good season.
Welcome to the club Dwight!’
‘Welcome Dwight, I’m a bit sceptical about the clubs ability to play to your strengths,
I reckon you will see loads of crosses flying over your head and long punts from defence, balls to feet or to run onto may be a scarcity sadly.
But, good luck son. I REALLY hope that I am reading this all wrong.’
‘Yeah, welcome to a player who apparently didn’t want to come to us!’
‘In today’s game players hold all the power. Make no mistake, if Gayle didn’t want to sign here he wouldn’t have.’
‘Maybe it was that he didn’t want to come down to the Championship instead believing in his own ability to fight for and get a start at Newcastle in the premier league?
Once it was clear that Rondon would be Benitez’s first choice and Joselu the 2nd choice maybe he thought it was better to drop down and come to a club where he is more likely to be first choice.’
‘And obviously the fact that he’s probably on more as Newcastle than we were willing to pay under our wage structure – with the 50% flex down on wages we can’t then look to sign players on PL wages otherwise we upset the rest of the squad.
Although not much has been said, I’d guess that Newcastle are still paying a % of Gayle’s wages or some of the ‘loan fee’ we’ve had for Rondon is that in a lump sum.’
‘It would seem that we drove a hard bargain because Newcastle clearly wanted Rondon, and they are paying half of Dwight’s wages as well, and giving us a £2m loan fee. Only time will tell how good that deal really is….’
‘I personally think Gayle didn’t want the move initially because he likely thought “I’ve proven myself at that level” after his season with Newcastle, and wanted to establish himself in the PL, rather than him not wanting to leave Newcastle because he loves that club.
However, Benitez clearly didn’t have him in his plans and on paper, we look like we are contenders to be fighting on the right end of the championship table and looking for promotion in the coming period. In his eyes, we might be his chance to establish himself as a key player within the team and eventually as a key player in the Premier League if he can help us get back there. Just my theory anyway.’
‘If Dwight Gayle stays fit, he’ll get lots of goals at this level. A much better natural finisher than Rondon, but goes missing frequently in games. In the right system, he will be lethal.’
‘If Rodriguez stays then we have the 2 best strikers in the league, play offs minimum.’
‘Not overly suited to playing on his own up front according to Newcastle write ups, so i’d imagine when Moore talks about him fitting our style of play, he is planning on 2 up front more often than not.
Unsure on if this is a good deal or not. I suppose that will ultimately depend in hindsight. I reckon Rondon offers more options tactically and could well have scored a few at this level but Gayle has had 2 good seasons in this division and I suppose they are looking at his proven championship goals record, plus the chance to get us a sale on Rondon next summer.
Good look Gayle, 2 goal scorers at the club now. Need the service behind them.’
‘This hasn’t been our choice clearly. Rondon was never going to play 2nd tier.
We’ve softened the blow slightly by signing a striker who has had one twenty goal season in this division. Hopefully he gets close to a 2nd.’
‘Really do hope I am completely and utterly wrong but this seems a pretty one sided deal to me. They are getting Rondon for next to zero. Gayle may have scored goals in this division before but will he do the same for us ?’
‘At last we have a half decent striker who can actually score a few goals. Good job he has nothing to live up to from his predecessor. Sure he will do well, knows this division inside out.’
‘Really sad to see Rondon go but the guy is class on and off the pitch, and thoroughly deserves to stay in the Prem. Best of luck Salo!’
‘2million loan fee plus Gayle on loan I’d say is a decent deal, if rondon performs well up there which I think he will he’ll be worth more to us.’