Welcome to summer transfer deadline day.

Or, as we officially call it in Newcastle Upon Tyne….Thursday.

In some nine hours time the window will slam shut at 5pm today.

Newcastle fans left once again looking back at the wreckage of another Mike Ashley transfer window.

A bit like a Blue Peter project, Rafa Benitez then expected to make a Premier League top half team out of a couple of cereal boxes, some string and a lot of imagination and inspiration.

Can I take you back 116 days, to St James Park.

Newcastle fall behind to a Lacazette goal on 14 minutes, Arsenal dominant.

However, yet again Rafa’s team showed themselves more than a sum of their parts, surprising pretty much everybody when not only pulling it back to 1-1 with a Perez goal on 29 minutes, but then Ritchie scoring the winner on 68 minutes and the Magpies finishing the game well on top – creating chances and looking by far the better side.

Quite remarkable, as on the day Arsenal had two strikers on the pitch who each cost roughly the same as Newcastle’s entire starting eleven.

That match was also when Newcastle United became totally safe from relegation, reaching 41 points with still a month and five games in hand. An unbelievable performance from Rafa and his players, considering the lack of investment allowed by Mike Ashley.

I remember in the pub (pubs!) after the match, all the talk was of the opportunities that now lay ahead.

A world class manager, brilliant momentum, an extra month now available to plan as Newcastle knew they were preparing for the Premier League once again and not the Championship.

Moving forward 116 days and it feels as though it was a dream, the polar opposite of the nightmare that has transpired.

It was taken as read that an early offer would be going in to buy Kenedy, a player who had excelled in his loan spell but who Chelsea were never going to play, a player who if signed up could be a cornerstone of foundations for the coming years.

With money not having been spent last season and a minimal net spend, even Mike Ashley would see that there was an open goal waiting…

Kenedy signed on loan once again, which is temporary relief, but the message clearly that there is no long-term aim of any ambition and/or convincing Rafa Benitez to stay.

We stand here today with a transfer deadline day profit in this window so far of almost £30m and yet scratching around for loans and/or cheap untried kids from abroad, as Rafa Benitez still wants at least two extra defenders as a minimum.

It seemed laughable back in April to consider we might not break the 13 year old club transfer record and now it seems only laughable that we ever thought that.

Although saying that, Newcastle have of course beat that Michael Owen £16m, though yet again it is a sale price that has beaten that figure, Mitrovic sod for £22m (could rise to £27m), following Carroll £35m, Cabaye £20m, Sissoko £30m and Wijnaldum £25m out of the door.

Rather than buying Kenedy and other players for £16m+, Rafa hasn’t even been allowed to spend £10m on a player, Yoshinori Muto (£9.5m) the biggest splash.

Elsewhere, Rafa having to rely on loans, frees and bargain priced buys.

Welcome to transfer deadline day, you should be fine just so long as you expect absolutely nothing positive to happen, then if we get another loan, free, or bargain buy in, you can think of it as a bonus…

To feature like Phil Yates submit your article to [email protected] and/or for more info go here



  • Kenny

    according to the chronicle it`s Mike Ashley`s day off

    • Christopher Smeaton

      Which plonker is trolling today? I have them blocked but I like to know who is trying to get a reaction from people!

      I’ve enjoyed the clown emojis i must say!

      • Kenny

        Ghostrider 🤡

      • Kenny

        Should be rats 🐀 as they are vermin

      • Jezza

        Or to be more precise, which of his multiple ID’s is our resident troll using today?

  • ghostrider

    Why are people consistently worried about profit?
    Why is a window only classed as some kind of success if we spend all profit?
    If we spend it all and have a zero net spend, then nothing will change.

    If we have something like a minus 60/70/80 etc, million cash spend that leaves us waiting to rebuild the coffers, it will be applauded for 10 minutes and then the claws would be back out as to what Ashley would do to the club in the next window, as in, ” ohhh, you watch, he’ll make us pay dearly for this.”

    The man cannot win in those stakes, so accept what you’ve got. 6 players in and surplus out….plus the potential for 1 or 2 more in before the window closes.

    • Kenny

      🤡 you taking prawn sandwiches to the match tomorrow night

    • Brian Standen

      Why do others do it then?

      • TheFatController

        They’re all going bust according to him.

        2 Might have to sell the players they buy now when they get relegated, but the majority will stay up and do the same next summer – spend the tv money in advance to increase the likelihood they stay up.

        • ghostrider

          You can see what’s happening. It’s not just according to me. It’s as close to black and white as it comes but people keep wearing the rose tinted TV money goggles as if it creates a football club reality.
          It doesn’t. It creates a fiction that mimics reality for a few years, before the dizzy heights make them fall over.

          Like a kid on the fairground. They want to go on the biggest, fastest ride then when they get off and spew up, they pretend it was fantastic but shy away from immediately trying to get back on.

          However, in time and with a bit of historical forgetfulness, they start pushing to get right back on the fastest rides.

          And so on.
          Us?
          We start off on the tea cups and try and progress through to the bigger rides until we dare take the risk of the even bigger ones.
          It’s not ideal but it does keep us ticking whilst we do try it.

          • TheFatController

            So Leicester are going bankrupt making £150m annually plus Mahrez’s sale, harry Maguire value etc?

            They’re worse off than us?

            They’re managed by professional business people, who are skilled at working within their means to make the club hugely profitable.

            And they even won a trophy whilst doing it.

            That must make your brain cell melt?

          • ghostrider

            They’re working within their means because football clubs are paying them big money for certain players.
            But guess what?
            The pain isn’t in balancing transfer fees. It’s in sustaining the higher wages they have to feer to replace the players they let go/beg to be out.

            Leicester may finish mid table this season.
            They also may finish as relegated.

            The reality will only be so at the end, or close to the end of the season.
            They cannot sustain what they’re doing, no matter what you think they sell for…because they immediately replace by buying big money players on a whim…with wages to match that become a club killer.

            You watch.

          • TheFatController

            As a troll, you would wish that were true. It’s not.

          • ghostrider

            You become weak when you do this. It’s become the standard reply of those who struggle for answers.

          • TheFatController

            Stop using shaming words like ‘weak’ – it only works on a small number of people. Find better ways to unleash your venom. Shaming is easily dismissed.

            Develop the execution of the nasty side of you. It’ll hurt people more and you’ll get a better payoff.

          • ghostrider

            lol

          • Virsino

            I’d say this guy is the type that was bullied as a child, but now that there’s a keyboard he looks for ways to bully others, a bit like how Ashley runs his business empire. He too was probably bullied at school, and now uses financial clout and other means to bully others. Almost symbiotic.

          • Jezza

            Ashley was far more likely to have been a bully at school. People who are bullied in childhood don’t generally turn out to be vicious, ruthless and scheming like Ashley. He has clearly been like that his whole life. It’s just his nature.

          • gordon

            Answer this one question and answer it truthfully without any of your usual squirming and deflection – if we had spent £60m on three quality players would you be on here moaning about how we have spent too much and how we are living beyond our means and ‘Mike’ was leading us to ruin? And don’t wriggle and say that if ‘Mike’ spent that much it’s because ‘Mike’ knows the books can take it – that’s too predictable even for you

          • ghostrider

            If Ashley spend 60/70/80 or 200 million then I’d be fairly confident that he’s done it because he knows the club can manage it and also have a contingency plan in case of failures within that.

            I certainly wouldn’t moan.
            I want Ashley to spend more. I want Ashley to spend what is feasible for the club to withstand.

            However I’m not going to waste my life worrying about what he doesn’t spend as long as we’re adding to the squad as we trim it.

            I’d like to win the premier league and the champions league, plus the FA cup and league cup…..in one season.
            Or I’d like just one of them.

            If I don’t see it, it still won’t diminish my hopes until my hopes dimissh at the time when realisation comes in that it’s impossible for that period of time/season.

            And then I readjust for the next season whether that’s with Lionel Messi or Frederick Bloggs who’s shown potential.

            I don’t use the big clubs as yardsticks and I don’t use gungho smaller clubs on a big spend as rich kids getting their holiday pick of the best sweets whilst I accept that mine will likely be a couple of penny jellies but always a hope for a once in a while treat bag mix up..

          • gordon

            ‘And don’t wriggle and say that if ‘Mike’ spent that much it’s because ‘Mike’ knows the books can take it – that’s too predictable even for you’

            ‘If Ashley spend 60/70/80 or 200 million then I’d be fairly confident that he’s done it because he knows the club can manage it and also have a contingency plan in case of failures within that’.

            Hahahahahahahafeckinhahahahahahahaohgodhahahahahahahahahafeckinhellhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

            Didn’t even bother reading the rest of your garbage after that hahaha you feckin idiot. Re-blocked!

          • ghostrider

            lol Re-blocked indeed. Hahahahaha.

          • panther

            but at least they gave it a go, you know competed in a competition, imagine that, what a bunch of loons

          • panther

            wed just like to keep up instead of driving in reverse

      • ghostrider

        Tell me where Villa are and why they went down.
        Tell me what happened to Leeds and why they’re still trying to recover?
        Tell me about Blackburn.
        Shall I go on?

        Now take a look at the clubs that have had a crack in the last few years.
        Look what happened to them.
        Look at Wigan who I remember once that fans wished we have Wigan’s owner at that time.

        The list is almost endless with this and that and who will do this because they spend X amount more than we did.,

        If Rafa sets this team up properly and with focus we will outdo many of the so called big spending wannabe’s.

        Just watch how the implosion starts for those clubs that have went hell for leather over the last few years and watch the new kids on the block walk into the very same trap.

        As for us?
        We’ll just plod on and see where we end up…which certainly won’t be relegation unless the players give up or teh fans create a toxic atmosphere that makes them give up….or Rafa tries to sabotage it all (which I doubt)..

        • Kenny

          🤡

        • TheFatController

          I thought we’d had an agreement on this site that ‘others have done worse’ can’t be used to justify bad club ownership?

          I thought you’d agreed not to ‘predict the future with no supporting financial data’ that every club spending will regret it ?

          It’s good that apologists are desperate, just not good that they use the same woeful arguments daily.

          • ghostrider

            There’s no agreements from me other than to counteract arguments that I believe deserve counter argument.
            Just accept that.

          • TheFatController

            I was joking you prize turkey.

            Your counter arguments are poor though. I’ll accept that, yes.

          • ghostrider

            Accept or deny anything you wish. I have no control over what you do, only what I do.

          • TheFatController

            As a troll, no surprise you’d say anything to make Ashley look good.

            He doesn’t look good ever. But keep trying.

          • ghostrider

            Weaker and weaker. I expected better from you.

        • drc74

          villa had a petulant owner who wouldnt in vest properly and set the value of the club too high when he tried to offload it.

          Leeds financial issues when the owner had 75% of his weekly profit going out on players wages, he actually gambled on leeds qualifying for tge champions league every season for a thirty year period

          blackburns issues started when they sold their best players and replaced them with players who, MIGHT work, ie nathan blake

          • ghostrider

            It doesn’t matter how it’s dressed up. They fell apart because they were badly managed.

          • drc74

            not dressing it up, just told u the reasons.

          • ghostrider

            Yes you did. Dressed up into something that does not aid your argument.

          • drc74

            you asked for the reasons i gave them to you

          • ghostrider

            Great but you’ve done nothing other than admit that the clubs produce their own downfall.

          • drc74

            no ive just answered your question, if you dont like the answers then dont ask

          • ghostrider

            It’s not about liking the answers, it’s about answering to what you’re saying.

          • drc74

            and i answered to what you were saying

          • ghostrider

            Leave it at that.

          • panther

            is that why were all over the place?

        • panther

          tell me where Chelsea, Man City, Man U , Liverpool , Spurs are, before Ashley we were light years ahead of sum of them, now we cant compete with whitley bay

    • Kenny

      🤡.

    • Ricardinho

      It’s really not that difficult to understand, surely? In the majority of cases (whilst taking into account the absurdely inflated market) the transfer fee reflects the quality of the player. If we are constantly making a surplus then we are either (a) replacing those players sold with players of inferior quality OR (b) we are demonstrating exteme short term-ism by relying on loan deals, which do not allow for a squad to properly develop as they’ll be off somewhere else at the end of the season. So surely profit is in fact a very good indicator, no?

      • ghostrider

        But the transfer fee does not reflect the quality of player in most cases.
        AT the top end of the scale it generally does.
        At the scale we and most other clubs are at, it reflects stupidity of clubs paying over the top fees.

        If people can take away their Rafa tinted specs and not use his so called genius to get a championship squad 10th whilst totally over achieving, then they would see that the so called bigger spenders fell flat on many occasions compared to our spends.

        Just try and picture the money spent by West Ham and try and picture the wages they would have had to offer to bring all those players. Not to mention the wages of the others, like Carroll, Hernandez, Arnautovic and so on.

        Where do they go from here?
        What are their fans expecting?
        How long before fan discontent if they don’t hit the ground running?
        How long before the expensive crew of players start to feel uneasy playing among those discontented fans and then start to bottle it.

        But in between all that, Newcastle United may be just soldiering along and stepping on the heads of the big spending also ran clubs.

        What I say now may not happen….but if it does, it will show that big spends on big so called players many become a small selling fee for a dud, whiclt our smaller spending can create a lager worth for our own.

        Then who has the top players?

        • Ricardinho

          Ok so I agree that some other clubs have certainly paid over the odds. I am not advocating spending silly money, but it is plain to see that the squad is under-strength and that could be addressed quite easily without going over-board. Prime example: Joe Bryan. Cover at LB is desperately needed, £6m is really not much in today’s market and his wages would not be too high, yet it seems too much for NUFC. Why? It should be well within our means.

          The other point you miss entirely is the feelgood factor, which is incredibly important in football. One or two exciting signings can lift the supporters but also lifts the players. Admit it, if you are a player are you really going to be excited about playing with a tidy midfielder who has arrived on a free from a relegated club? No you aren’t. Is that arrival going to lift your own game? No, it isn’t. So spending a bit money isn’t the be all and end all, but it certainly helps! Then again, maybe you are happy with just chugging along and narrowly avoiding relegation every year (or maybe not avoiding it!).

          • ghostrider

            I’m far from happy about chugging away. This is where people just jump the gun and go hell for leather at my replies, likening them to me simply being an Ashley lover rather than seeing my bigger picture from my point of view…not pandering to their own.

            What you are saying is perfectly reasonable to ponder. I agree with you.
            But you and I and everyone else have to understand a few things that we have little to no control over.

            1. None of us know what’s really going on in that background, so it all goes into a game of split the camp and argue the thought process of each individual as to whether they want to go one way of thought or the other, or stay neutral.
            It creates gobbledygook in all fairness but that gobbledygook becomes each persons stance or fact, when the reality is back behind closed doors.

            2. Buying in a left back for 6 million solves nothing. Same as buying in a striker for 10 million, or a midfielder for nothing.
            When I say solves nothing, I mean with the fair majority of fans, because to them it’s cheap tat.

            But let’s change it up.

            If we buy in the Muto from the world cup for 23 million (as an instance) and then we ket in Ki to play alongside Shelvey who knows his game….for 20 million….then the fans would be saying ” ahhh that’s better, we’re spending money.”

            It’s like sitting at home and your wife/husband/partner (for clarity reasons) cooks a pizza and you eat it and enjoy it, thinking that pizza was the goodfella’s brand you liked but then she said it was Asda’s own, it’s going to be a bit underwhelming, even if that pizza was far tastier and didn’t look out of place.

            Another instance:
            A big if.

            Imagine Rafa kept Adam Armstrong and played him. He then score a hattrick on his first start and then goes to to score something like 10 goals in his first 10 games. Fans would be singing his praises but still bemoaning the big money striker and the fact that Ashley’s thrown Armstrong in on the cheap because his wages are cheap as well.

            This is the mentality of how fans have got to, unlike years ago when buying in was merely waiting for just one name but no expectation on massive spending.

            It all comes down to fans not wanting to think Ashley is pocketing so called lucrative TV money and selling us down the so called river with cheapies.

            My simple argument is, we can all pee and moan and boycott the ground, his shops and anything else…but all you are doing is destroying your own fan experience.

            When asked to pay out of their own pockets in order to run their own club, it becomes all kinds of reasonings as to why they can’t or it’s not as simple as that…or whatever.

            It’s like having 10 people sat across a table looking at the person on the other side who has a large slice of cake and they want him to share it.
            He says ” if you want this cake then all pool together what I ask for this cake and you can all share it.”

            Instead of doing this the people decide to sit and whine and try to intimidate the other person into handing out pieces for the price they think.

          • Ricardinho

            You make some interesting points and eloquently.

            However, as regards the idea that fans would class Bryan as “cheap tat” – I don’t think that’s fair at all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting good value and most fans would realise that. I actually think (and I am sure other do too) that the deals for Ki, Muto, Schar etc are good ones. We are getting in decent quality for “reasonable” prices – that’s savvy. However, refusing to sanction deals and ignoring the holes in the squad cannot be acceptable and leaves us on a knife edge should there be any injuries. We always seem to have to get rid of a player before we can sign a new one – why? It’d be refreshing to see the depth of the squad actually increasing so that we are properly prepared.
            I also mentioned short term-ism earlier. See Kenedy and Rondon. Financially, I cannot see how the Kenedy loan benefits anybody except Chelsea. We all know that MA likes to sign players with re-sale value and, if he continues on the current path, Kenedy will be “worth” £50m in a couple of seasons, if not before. So it should have a been a no-brainer to get him in on a permanent deal – he’d be a major asset. As it is, there is almost zero chance we will be able to keep him come the end of this season.

            As for Rondon, my understanding is that there is no option to buy. If he does relly well then, again, we wont be able to “afford” him. He’ll go back to WBA and then somebody else will come in and nab him. In the meantime, Gayle comes back here and we have to try to shift him again – square one.

            To me, the approach just doesn’t make sense – see if you can convince me otherwise…

          • ghostrider

            If you look at the signings and the loans for this club, it appears there’s been some kind of stand off and a case of tight lips not sinking ships.

            Basically speaking, Ashley doesn’t seem to be playing Rafa’s game and Rafa isn’t willing to play on Ashley’s terms, hence why we are getting freebies and loan deals, plus the odd buy.

            So, this season I honestly don’t really know what’s what…but my guess is, Ashley’s looking to either sell or to run down Rafa’s contract and to give a new manager the funds and impetus to move on.

            It makes sense.

            That’s what I would do.
            I know this has veered off a little but it all ties in in a roundabout way.

            Ashley’s next trick could well be a last minute Lascelles sale.
            unfortunately you do not scorn your employer and you do not create problems for the club.
            Lascelles seems to be the mouthpiece and I’d be surprised if Ashley allows him to carry that on.

            But maybe all this is done in house with no loose lips for the media to speculate and accumulate their own so called facts based on Chinese whispers.

  • ghostrider

    I have 2 immediate blocked users under me lol.
    Whoever you are, don’t bother answering to me, it’s a waste of your time.

    • Kenny

      🤡

    • Brian Standen

      If Ashley is this canny guy you refer to, why does he not come out and tell us where the money goes?
      Before you say ‘look at the accounts’ , creative accounting is an art!
      He has tried every trick possible to deflect stuff away from him including crying to the press because his family could not go to a football match because nasty Geordies would threaten them – fact nobody would ever hurt his family!
      The man is a rat

      • ghostrider

        So, if you say creative accounting is an art and that amount of money can be frittered away to somewhere as tax evasion which carries big penalties…cash and jail. then fair enough in your thoughts…but nothing will ever pacify you in any way shape of form with whatever Ashley does, or Charnley or anyone at the club who work in the financial part.

        So why would Ashley bother to come out and explain anything to fans like yourself?
        Seriously, why would he do it.
        He’s never going to be believed unless he comes out with what you crave for. A villain type answer that goes in the way of your thoughts. Then he will be believed.

        And don’t say “fact” nobody would hurt him after the absolute spew and bile by the MINORITY and the consistent stoked up hatred that is/has become country wide but will soon wane to turn the tables on the very fans that created it.

        You watch.
        The fans that do this stuff are only hurting their own club and the image of Newcastle fans who are top fans in their own right and genuine with it…who, like me, like a moan but are not nasty enough to let it go so far as to blight their own lives and the lives of others.

        • Brian Standen

          Listen. I go the games so I get stick on here!
          But I won’t be cloned as someone who thinks Ashley is doing the right things!
          Initially he tried to curry favour, appointing KK,Sheareretc and drinking with the fans, once out his depth and Chris Mort saw it he chucked his toys out the pram!
          He now makes us suffer with his running of NUFC!
          Stupidest thing is, he could have himself become a legend up here!

          • ghostrider

            You’re not suffering mate, unless you intentionally do it to yourself.
            You go to games. You go to games to watch your team.
            You do not go to games to stare at Ashley or Charnley or spend too much time staring at adverts, unless you do it all before the game stars.

            Your major suffering is cast off suffering by adhering to mass views of desperation and hatred for an owner, just like how the actual masses are made of people just like yourself.
            This is why things go wrong.

            Don’t get me wrong. By all means deny what I’m saying. Call me whatever you wish to tell me I’m wrong.
            The buck stands with you.
            You’re a fan in your own right. You owe nobody anything for being a fan and you owe nobody a following with any stand against your own football club or owner/custodian of it.

            The situation still stands clear.
            Support the team not the regime.
            Secretly hate him all you like. Hate anyone all you like…but just remember that hatred is a disease. It’s a mental disease that eats away at people so much so that all rational thoughts become arguments of discontent.

            When Ashley starts to buy league one players and pays them league one money, then get on the rooftops and scream your discontent to the entire world

          • panther

            shame hes a sociopath, we could be up there

        • panther

          pretty sure you work for jabba the destructor

      • panther

        you cant choose your family, they get a free pass, but id do 30 years to take out Ashley

        • Jimblag23

          He says he’s blocked you and then starts replying hahahahahaha! 😂 my god what a gimp.

  • TheFatController

    The sensible positive posters will tell you ‘this site is just for people who want to be negative and moan’

    By which I presume they mean either
    A. They think there’s nothing to moan about
    B. They think it’s good to be positive no matter what the circumstances and make the best of things
    C. They know it’s not positive, but bizarrely enjoy feeling smug putting people down, given that negativity and moaning have shameful connotations generally

    I’m reminded of the history of the 1930s when Churchill was negative and moaned about a new leader called Hitler (whatever happened to him?)
    The majority shamed him for moaning and being overly negative. Of course he wasn’t building an army on the quiet…

    They couldn’t stand the thought of WW1 being repeated, with all the loss of life. So they willed it all not to be true. They were the positive ones, not the moaners.

    Of course, history tells us their blindness to reality in order to be positive and not moan allowed Hitler to have 6 free years building a huge army, navy and Air Force.

    So you positive guys carry on willing it all to be ok with what’s going on currently …

    • ghostrider

      History counts for nothing other than memories. It does not dictate what happens now based on how good a team was or what they won.

      If that was the case then Aston Villa would be sat on the shoulders of the other giants of history…..but they’re not and cannot live in their past, only in the now and a hope for their future.

      But if we really want to live on history then we have to recreate what that history was, along with every other team of that time.

      • Kenny

        🤡,

        • drc74

          your wrong kenny, hes a cockwombling clown, :)

      • TheFatController

        That response reads like a child trying to sound adult…

        • Kenny

          Clarko`s the guy to throw major tantrums, must run in the family

        • ghostrider

          In your mind you can picture me as any age and any shape you wish. I’m more than happy for you to go with whatever you wish.

          • TheFatController

            I’ll not see you at 11am Saturday on northumberland St then?

            Or are you launching a one-man (boy?) counter protest?

            Now mention ‘sheep’ and how you’re ‘strong-minded unlike others’ and we can all laugh at you.

          • Milburn_Taylor

            i ignore him

          • ghostrider

            You may see me but you won’t know if you have or not because you have no clue who I am and I have no clue who you are.
            And to be honest, I’m not interested in who you are.

          • TheFatController

            Ah, he’s trying to shame me.

          • ghostrider

            You do that quite competently, yourself.

          • TheFatController

            Sometimes in my life I’ve felt shame, but mostly pride. Your point is what therefore …?

          • ghostrider

            The point was what I said to your last post. No further need to elaborate on it.

          • Squintytoonarmy

            It’s because you will be in Manchester. You’ve never once acknowledged if you are a fan or not. At least Monkseation has shown his colours

          • ghostrider

            If you refuse to read then only you can be guilty of ignorance.
            I have no obligation to provide more reading material in order to prove something.
            Accept or don’t. Either way is fine.

          • Squintytoonarmy

            Spookshagger

          • Jezza

            Ghostbuster and Monkseaton are the same person trolling under different ID’s. He uses about 20 different ID’s in total.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Haha you’re a normal bloke not a super villain

          • ghostrider

            Yep.

          • panther

            he’ll have to go on google maps to find Northumberland street

          • Jezza

            Yes just like he found Monkseaton on Google maps.

      • drc74

        oooooooo someones been copying and pasting cliché s from the net again

        • ghostrider

          If I ever copy and paste anything I’ll place it in brackets to let you all know.
          If you don’t see that, accept….or not, that I type my own thoughts from my own hands.

          • TheFatController

            When those hands are putting orders together at Shirebrook?

            3 x adidas basic
            1 x cushion heel insole
            2 x water bottles

            Run along.

          • ghostrider

            I don’t know what your job is. If you’re not happy with the job or the pay then look for another job.

          • TheFatController

            At least bring humour to the site. You don’t have to troll and have no personality with it

          • ghostrider

            3 times on the trot. I don’t really need to bring humour when it’s provided by some.

          • drc74

            i think winston churchill, (if was still with us) might disagree with that statement

          • ghostrider

            Think what you wish but you didn’t know him and your history of that time is based on stories conveyed to you.
            All your history is told as a truth to you. Unless you can directly prove otherwise then you go along with it.
            That’s all we can all do but it doesn’t stop us debating potentials to the alternative.

          • drc74

            your sooo right, i wasnt around during the holocaust, therefore it obviously didn’t hapen

          • ghostrider

            I don’t know what anything is of the history I do not physically know about.
            I have to rely on stories told and books of old.
            If you think for one minute that I’m going to play games with emotional historical content then you’re sadly mistaken.

          • drc74

            im not playing emotional games, im just questioning your comment regarding believing history or not

          • ghostrider

            You’re trying to play emotional games to garner backing for your stance.
            You don’t need backing. There’s enough people on here that will back you anyway, just for the sake of it.

          • drc74

            again no, im just pointing out that you cant dismiss history, just because i wasnt there, with that rationale, england didnt win the world cup either

          • ghostrider

            I’m not dismissing history. I’m saying, merely hanging onto it all as fact without question is just following any story told, blindly or on the basis of mass influence that is also mostly blind acceptance.

          • drc74

            so again with your rationale, i can only believe england won the world cup, because alot of people told me it happened

          • ghostrider

            Yep, you can choose to believe it or not.
            However you have to look at your own rationale to decide whether one thing is much more viable than the next.
            You then use your own circumstantial evidence to come to a conclusion about it, because you are devoid of direct evidence.

          • drc74

            so would you not class, footage, offical documentation, photographs as primary evidence

          • ghostrider

            Footage?
            Was the terminator real because I saw the footage?
            What about The thin red line?
            What about jaws?
            ETC.

            As for official documentation. Official from where?

            Photographs can depict anything. You can have the loch ness monster or a picture of Godzilla, etc. They do not necessarily show reality.
            Every person is more than free to accept anything like that as their evidence but would you accept it all if a family member was being convicted on something like that when everyone else knew it wasn’t depicting a real story?

            It’s all about who can tell the best story and from there it’s all about sorting the wheat from the chaff, in terms of what is or what it appears to be or what it isn’t.

          • drc74

            so your saying all them photos of godzilla are fake!!!!, just to help you out, a movie generally is a means of telling a story, which is edired to s high standard, whereas footage is a piece of unedited media that is usually used highlight, events news.etc, etc, etc

          • ghostrider

            You mean footage is so called unedited media.

          • drc74

            oh and issac newton

          • ghostrider

            What about Isaac Newton?
            You only know what you’ve been schooled into, like me.
            If you accept it all then fair enough, but that doesn’t mean we all have to accept it all without question.

          • panther

            we dont believe you, everything you type is contrived

      • panther

        but we have the resources, jabba wont let us be succesfull

    • Virsino

      Good analogy. Well done!

    • Ben Jones

      I think it’s fair to say that ^ this poster isn’t a sensible poster

  • Stephen

    It looks like a team rather than a squad

    • Milburn_Taylor

      we haven`t got a squad

      • ghostrider

        How many players have we got who are eligible to play this season?

        • Kenny

          🤡🤡

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Why if you think there trolls do you reply? Isn’t that what they want ? Just ignore the weirdos

  • Milburn_Taylor

    wonder how many we won`t get over the line today

    • ghostrider

      Wonder how many we will?

      • Kenny

        🤡

    • Leazes.

      I guess he’ll not get at least three but it might be ten….hard to tell.

  • Leazes.

    I remember the Chronicle’s ‘deadline day’ events. They would team up with their counterparts at the Liverpool Echo and do a joint live blog…. as it happens, all the excitement of a clock ticking down. It became a bit embarrassing.

    I wonder if they’ll team up today?

    • Milburn_Taylor

      i don`t know if Ryder is an idiot or bows to wealth and power

      • Hughie_Gallacher

        Both. I remember his interview on Talk Sport after the stadium renaming fiasco. He managed to show up the entire North East with his talk of London conspiracies without a single shred of evidence.

  • TheFatController

    Trolls – Ashley is hugely disliked and there’s some real energy going into letting him, his companies, and their customers know it. And Rafa leaves in 9 months. So it’ll be 10 times worse then.

    Discuss. Among yourselves.

    • Milburn_Taylor

      i ignore them

      • Tweed Mag

        Yes ignore them. They add nothing to this site and take up valuable space with contradictions – which does not contribute to any sort of reasonable debate.

  • A person

    As a Liverpool fan, watching Rafa and ye struggle like this is depressing. It’s not like ye’re close to bankruptcy either ye made at least 60 million on the TV deal and more on sales. If Rafa wasn’t a genius ye’d have been relegated and lost millions aswell, did that not occur to Ashley? Anyway good luck this season and hopefully Ashley finally leaves.

  • mactoon

    Always said it would end this way, loans and bargain basement with no bid over £10 million. The main problem for me is the striker to get goals and Ashley’s solution to this is to sell a prolific striker for profit (although Rafa wouldn’t use him but the fee should have been the catalyst for getting a new striker on a permanent deal), get one on loan in exchange for Gayle going the other way. I think this will be the last straw for Rafa and Ashley deserves all the abuse he will no doubt get when he walks away.