Henri Saivet is expected to take his medical today.

The Newcastle midfielder set to sign for Bursaspor according to various media in Turkey.

The 27 year old spent a loan period at Sivasspor in the second half of last season and the Turkish club’s manager has since moved on to Bursaspor.

Claims of a move to Bursaspor have continued throughout the summer and now it at last looks as though the move will happen.

The reports claim it will be a permanent deal but no indication as to the size of the transfer fee.

Since moving to St James Park in January 2016 for £5m, Saivet has only started three league games, one of those in the two and a half years Rafa Benitez has been at the club.

With an injury crisis leaving  no other option, Rafa played Saivet alongside Diame at West Ham and both scored in a 3-2 win that meant Newcastle weren’t in the relegation zone at Christmas.

Along with Lazaar and Aarons, Henri Saivet wasn’t given a squad number when they were released on Friday, Rafa making it clear he and the other two will be left to train and play with the kids if they don’t find another club.

At least with spells out on loan at both Saint Etienne and Sivasspor, Saivet has indicated he wants to play football, rather than sit back and pick up another three years of NUFC wages.

Whilst any transfer fee won’t be massive, Mike Ashley will no doubt be very happy that for these next few weeks, he stands a chance of further increasing the £20m+ summer transfer profit (see below) already made.

Newcastle/Ashley still able to sell players but no longer able to buy.

Turkish clubs can still buy players until the deadline on 1 September, whilst most other major leagues also have at least until the end of August to do the same.

Clubs in England below the Premier League level can still do loans until the end of this month, so very likely a number of young players such as Woodman, Roberts and Longstaff could still go out.

The Mag – 9 August 2018 (transfer deadline day):

Newcastle United have brought in these seven players –

PLAYERS IN:

£9.5m Yoshinori Muto

£6m Federico Fernandez

£4m Martin Dubravka

£3 Fabian Schar

£2m Salomon Rondon

£0 Ki Sung-yueng

Loan Kenedy

Total £24.5m 

Whilst these are the ones sold, as well as the main ones who have been released/loaned out –

PLAYERS OUT:

£22m (could rise to £27m if targets hit) Aleksandar Mitrovic

£10m Mikel Merino

£7.2m Chancel Mbemba

£3.5m Matz Sels

£1.75m (could rise to £3m if targets hit) Adam Armstrong

£0.65 Ivan Toney

£0 Jesus Gamez

£0 Massadio Haidara

Loan Dwight Gayle

Loan Jack Colback

Total £45.1m (rising to possibly £51.35m if targets hit)

On these figures, Newcastle United have made a net profit of £20.6m on deals in and out, which could actually rise to £26.85m if both Mitrovic and Armstrong hit certain targets for their new clubs.

When Mike Ashley said Rafa Benitez could have ‘every penny’ to spend, just what exactly did he mean…?



  • SuperDesHamilton

    We won’t get a penny! The Lira is worth nothing & Bursaspor have no money. John Bostock signed in January for them wasn’t paid his wages once and had to leave back to France in July.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      That’s more of the worry. As soon as I saw the destination, it’s a case of see it to believe it.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        America hitting them with more trade tariffs maybe a few more countries means they aren’t coming out the dark yet either

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          He’ll go somewhere but I’d have been more confident if he was going to St Etienne than Turkey.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            If it was up to me I’d try take a low transfer fee & all his wages off the books to get rid, best for us & him

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I’m sure that’s what is happening, it’s easier said than done I suspect. He’s not going to take a low wage to help us out (nor should he) so we either pay towards his salary or pay him off with a deal.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            The only thing I can commend is that he’s willing to get himself out and want to play football. Who knows if he plays well at a new club he could earn a transfer with bigger money in the long run. He was touted a wonder kid when he was younger so there’s something on there somewhere

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            there is a player in there, but for gifting them a goal at west hap last year, he was superb in the game. The problem (for us & him) is he’s been on loan for the last 1 1/2 seasons and nobody has thought to make a bid.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            The team & league he was in did us a disservice in terms of selling him. The 4 Istanbul teams are well stocked in midfield & outside them every other Turkish club is completely skint, so we couldn’t even sell him to them

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Too true, had we lent him to a Spanish la liga side in 2016-17, he’d have had more of a chance to shine. Doing ‘OK’ in France does not really prove much and Turkey is usually just a 3-4 horse race that usually has an easy winner, like you say, they have no money.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Maybe Malaga when they were in La Liga or Depor, either team will take any old player & did

  • ghostrider

    So buying a player for 5 million and rarely playing him but paying his wages for his time at the club and then selling him cheaper than he cost to buy is profit making is it?
    Some people need to get a reality check.

    • Angelswithdirtyfaces

      Economics 101 for dummies. If you add up all the transfer fees for the players who are bought and then do the same thing for all the players who are sold you get what is known as a NET spend. If your net spend on transfers is less than zero ( that’s a 0 ) it means you have sold more than you bought so you have made a PROFIT. It’s easy when you have a measurable IQ.

      • ghostrider

        I was talking about Saivet only.
        Did I mention anyone other than Saivet?
        Maybe having another read of what I said might help you who thinks IQ measuring is a yardstick for overall intelligence and ability.

        It’s a speed test and nothing more.

        • Wor Lass

          If we sell saivet for any amount then that will be added to our net profit on transfers.

          • ghostrider

            It’s laughable with how people go on about profit and what not.
            It’s like it’s a crime for the club to have a net profit on transfers.

            If Saevet gets sold for 1 penny it will be classed as one more penny to the net transfer regardless of his past fee being 5 million.

            It’s easy to use it like that but the reality is far different.
            I’m temped to go right through Mike Ashley tenure and see what all the players he’s bought tally up against all the players he’s sold and to see where the transfer profit or shortfall is overall.

            I might do it if I can be bothered.
            If anyone else can I’d be interested to know.

          • Wor Lass

            Ask Clarko to do it when you get home.

          • ghostrider

            I might get you to do it.

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Not quite right, a) the players values are written down over the term of their contracts and b) salaries are the biggest driver in cost.

      • Hughie_Gallacher

        The trolls and the compliant local media would have you believe it’s more complicated than that and you must be some kind of simpleton if you disagree. Therein lies the evidence of Keith Bishop at work.

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Take it it’ll be Benítez fault for Carr recruiting him though & Benitez fault for wanting rid of him because he’s useless though yeah?

      Just going by your logic of blaming everything on him, bet it’s Benitez fault it’s raining today

      • ghostrider

        Rafa’s at fault for some things and does a good job on others. Simple as that. But he’s no wheeler and dealer who’s saved the club this and that.

        He identifies players and the club gets what the club can afford or what the club sees as feasible.
        He gets plaudits as much as he gets digs from me, as and when I think it’s fit to do so. What others do and say is entirely up to them, but just remember that I am under no obligation to agree, nor am I under any obligation to agree with mass opinion if I do not genuinely think it is a truth.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          He identifies a player & gets told to be happy with the grogg he’s given is more appropriate

          • ghostrider

            No, that’s not how it works with certain fans.

            Rafa identifies players ands manages to get in a fair amount who are classed as 3rd/4th/5th/6th/7th….or 80th choice depending on the fan frenzy.

            However, if those players do well then they become a Rafa masterstroke, because Rafa knows his players.
            If they do terrible, those players were forced upon Rafa.

            That’s how it works with fans because a messiah is a messiah and Ashley is the devil….right?

            However let’s change it up.
            If this was Pardew or the likes and these players were bought, it would be Pardew being a yes man who’s just went in for tat deliberately.
            But if those players hit the ground running then it’s in spite of Pardew or the likes and it’s just basically down to massive luck.

            This is how it works and it’s laughable and is the reason why I argue my points against fans.

    • Virsino

      The 5 million that was spent on Saivet is a sunk cost. At the time of his sale (should it happen) that 5m is irrelevant through amoritisation (I’m generalising).

      His salary is the salary of a squad member, irrespective of whether it was Saivet, or A.N. Other, the salary would have been paid. Again, a sunk cost.

      At the time of his sale (should it go through), the value will be added or subtracted to the rest of the values in the transfer window, and financial accounts for the year to show a profit, or a loss. Should he be sold for anything above 0, that would be a profit.

      Some people need to get a reality check.

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        The salary is not a sunk cost. It’s the major saving in the case of Savait.

        • Wor Lass

          The salary that`s been paid to date is.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            oh. of course but that’s not the issue

      • ghostrider

        Ok fair enough.

  • Paul Patterson

    The club is being stripped back by the week . .

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      So, listing the players that have been ‘stripped’, which ones do you consider to be serious assets in a football sense.

      I like Saviat, I think he’s decent but Rafa didn’t. Mbemba, the same, Mitro the same. The only one I consider a loss was Merino.

      • Ben Jones

        What’s your opinion on the finances Bobbi, do you think he might be taking cash out to pay back his loan? I suppose ashley could argue the every penny line while also taking any excess cash out on the basis it’s paying the clubs loans back, I guess this could be another way around how rafa is contractually bang to rights.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          I think he’s making it cash rich in order to sell it.

          I think the Stavely deal fell down because the club needed personal cash injections from the investors to significantly improve the playing side. I suspect that Ashley is prepared to play the bad man in order to sell up with the new buyers coming like white knights. If Ashley sells the shares for £200m and gets the new owners to refinance the £144m loans, he walks away with a profit and the new owners have got a club on the cheap.

          If it’s not sold buy next May, I think we may see him repay some of those loans, not before.

          • mactoon

            I think one of the main reasons for the problem with Staveley’s bid is she didn’t have proof that funds were sitting in an account ready to transfer. That’s why Ashley said it was all a waste of time. Her backers the Reuben brothers distanced themselves from any deal and it went south from there.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            There is a fair bit of cloak and dagger with who the main investors were and what the problem was. Fair to say, the £250m bid was knocked back yet there was no follow up bid, even in April / may when we were safe.

            The way it is now, the new owner moved in with £50-£60m in the bank so there is no need to deig deeper for spending money.

  • mactoon

    At the end of the day getting rid of players Rafa isn’t going to use will reduce the wage bill so it isn’t a bad thing. The problem is, sales now can’t count as the mythical “every penny generated” as the transfer window is closed in terms of incoming players.

    £20+ million profit made in player transfers, on the face of it that should be made available but wasn’t. The sales would be paid in instalments so a possible £44m of sales could only bring in £12-13m if the deals were over 5 year payments and the first instalments may not even be made within the current transfer window. Then you would have to take from that any payments for incoming players. Its not black and white.

    Is “every penny generated” a snapshot of the transfer status at a particular time, or is it a snapshot of the overall club finances. Remember he rolled out the statement at the beginning of the transfer window (that the club had made a loss of £90m during the relegation season a year ago) in order to intimate that the club couldn’t afford money for transfers now, while conveniently ignoring the £123m TV money.

    The term is intentionally ambiguous so you don’t know what figures are included or even when it is calculated. The transfer fund is whatever Ashley deems can be released and while we are in a safe position in the league that will always be minimal. In his eyes, he just doesn’t need to spend.

    I remember all the quotes of people saying Rafa would be given anything from £30m up to £150m and providing figures to back up their claims (and they will say the same things in January).

    You can throw figures around to show the club could afford to spend big on players but the fact is, the club DOES have the money, the club CAN spend it but Ashley simply WON’T spend it.

  • Nut

    The club is simply selling on sur plus players who were not in Rafa’should plans, we are frequently selling players we have paid more for and a lot more given wages paid, for a loss.

    The figures seen for money coming in do not tell the whole story.

  • Peaky

    Any money that does come in will no doubt carpet H of F in the Metrocentre…..🤬😡🤬

    • Paul Patterson

      Or go towards ‘Wallpaper’ in Ashleys house..

  • Mike

    he needs to pay off the 90m for house of fraser……..

  • Wezza

    Reduces, the already lowest in years, wage bill. We are well and truly being asset stripped.

  • Tweed Mag

    Whatever the costs/wages/transfer fees involved it really does not matter. Saivet was not in the Manager’s plans and he is better off playing elsewhere. What is the point of having him at the club if he is not an active squad member? The same goes for Mbemba, Mitro, Aarons, Lazaar and a few others. Saivet arrived at a time when we had plenty cover in midfield. Good luck to him, wherever he goes.