I hold my hands up, I have never gone for this thing of Shola Ameobi supposedly being some sort of Newcastle United cult hero.

He was absolutely hopeless as a player and it was simply embarrassing when Mike Ashley kept giving him an extended contract, as supposedly good news for the fans, after he had once again sold one of our best players and not replaced them.

If you take away a few goals against Sunderland, what are you left with?

A striker who spent pretty much his whole career at Newcastle United, earning millions, yet never ever scored double figures in the Premier League.

He was certainly no Alan Shearer as a player.

He most definitely isn’t any Alan Shearer as a pundit either.

I couldn’t get up to the game today and had to watch it on the box, Shola Ameobi one of the pundits for Sky Sports.

I thought that at the very least it was a positive we had a Newcastle fan on the show…how  wrong  can you be?

Alan Shearer is intelligent, switched on, knows the score about Newcastle United, is never afraid to speak out and say the right things where Newcastle United are concerned.

Just because you are a brilliant player doesn’t mean you know the score and have a brain, Shearer ticks all boxes.

Peter Beardsley was a brilliant player for Newcastle, Bobby Moncur an excellent player and captain for NUFC, however, they have been a disgrace when it comes to backing up this Mike Ashley regime.

Sadly, it looks like Shola Ameobi is joining their camp.

Talking on Sky Sports today, he actually said the words ‘Credit to Mike Ashley’ when it came to talking about how he ran Newcastle United.

Quite incredible that Shola chooses to compare Newcastle with Aston Villa’s situation (quickly becoming the new Leeds when it comes to apologists), rather than the likes of Huddersfield, Brighton, Fulham, Bournemouth, Everton, Watford, Wolves – all clubs on the up and showing ambition.

Has Shola Ameobi not noticed that Mike Ashley was busy making a £20m+ profit this summer whilst all of these clubs above ad net spends some £50m+ higher than Newcastle?

Is he really so thick that he is taken in by Ashley’s talk of not being able to compete with Man City or Liverpool in the transfer market, rather than the reality of him not being willing to compete with these clubs named above? Seemingly so…

Shola Ameobi talks of Mike Ashley having NUFC debt free…

Conveniently ignoring the £140m+ of debt that Mike Ashley has in there as being owed by the club to him, much of it that was simply the price of buying the club, such as the £50m that was still owed by Newcastle United on the mortgage that paid for the rebuilding of St  James Park.

He also says that the one thing Mike Ashley has done is ‘stabilise’ the club, two relegations in the last eight Premier League seasons, a strange kind of stability.

I’m glad I don’t have to watch Shola Ameobi playing for Newcastle United any longer and now I hope I don’t ever see him giving his ‘expert’ punditry ever again…

Shola Ameobi talking on Sky Sports before Tottenham match:

“You look at the amounts of money you need to pay to buy superstars now….Mike Ashley has come out and said he hasn’t got the funds to do that…to compete with Manchester City and Liverpool.

“He is a businessman, and unfortunately for the Newcastle fans, he wants to run his business in a way that is sustainable.

“Credit to Mike Ashley…because you look at the likes of Aston Villa, and these clubs who are struggling financially.

“The one thing that Mike Ashley has done for Newcastle over these last ten years, is to stabilise the club – where the club is running itself and we’ve got no debt.

“That’s credit to Mike Ashley but obviously fans of a football team want to progress year on year, they want to see big players.

“We can be quietly happy with our business…

“I know behind the scenes Rafa Benitez  would have been fighting tooth and nail to get the players in but I’m just delighted that we have managed to get seven players in because the squad was light.

“They needed players and Rafa understood that.

“The turmoil will have been there because he will have been screaming to get players in and thankfully it’s happened in the last week or so.”

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  • Gallowgate Dave

    I wonder if Sky have asked him to go easy on Mike in the hope they score another puff piece “exclusive” and Shola hoping for a new career with them has complied. He might be bored and desperate for something to do but God knows he doesn’t need the coin which makes this even worse.

  • Milburn_Taylor

    i couldn`t believe what i was hearing & from a Geordie player at that

    • Lord

      How to lose the fans’ goodwill built up over an entire career in 90 seconds.

  • Leazes.

    He’s getting hammered on twitter even the chronicle have joined in!

    As if we haven’t enough problems at our club he’s repeating the Denis Wise mantra which came from Ashley!

    Shame on Him!

  • nufcslf

    Stupid thick [email protected] What a chance to slam the fat c**t owner, but ends up licking his hoop instead. Idiot.

  • Leicester Mag

    Septic co£k

  • Paul Patterson

    Silly tw!t.

  • depressedfromdubai

    First time commenter: thanks for the article – I 100% (sorry, this is football: 110%!)never rated him as a player (apart from his uncanny ability to score vs the Makems! If only he could have used his size/power like Duncan Ferguson / Sir Les on a regular basis), and if he genuinely said this stuff (didn’t see it to comment properly) then he’s clearly not in tune with what’s really going on or has his eye on a different prize from the fat controller.

  • Dingus

    My step dad has always called him Shambles Amanobody. I never really took to that. I thought Shola seemed a good lad, however hopeless he was as a player. Now I know better. He’s a joke. Shameless. Selfish. F**k you and your nice new job, Shambles.

    • Peaky

      “Shambles Amanobody”…😂😂😂 can I borrow that ??

      • Dingus

        I encourage you to share it, Peaky

    • Martin Rooney

      Whose ya stiff dad, dani alvez?

      • Kenny

        Here’s your dad 🐁 troll

      • Dingus

        F**k Shambles. And f**k you. Troll c**t

        • Martin Rooney

          You gona do us both together Dingus

          • Dingus

            I’d love to. You saucy little minx.

  • Geordiegiants

    Scum, he is pure scum! Shithouse traitorous scum.

    • Martin Rooney

      He has a different opinion to you that is all.

      • Ben Jones

        Yeah, that’s what he was saying

        • Kenny

          Benny the vermin rat 🐀

      • Kenny

        Vermin 🐁

      • panther

        no he lies for money

        • Martin Rooney

          said panther

    • Kenny

      Troll vermin below giving Shola the 👍

      • Geordiegiants

        They are clearly taking thepiss, there is about a half a dozen of them on here and half a dozen pundits on tv that think he is doing ok. Even the sheep know he is acunt, but choose to still give him money.

  • Ben Jones

    Ben Jones
    4 days ago
    Poor Shola, his life now a walking tightrope of saying the ‘right’ things and avoiding upsetting the militants, who’ll no doubt gatecrash his father’s church if he says anything ‘wrong’.

    good luck Shola!

    Called it!

    • Kenny

      🤡

      • TheFatController

        He’s the prize turkey, no longer a clown in my book

    • TheFatController

      Sometimes we kill and maim apologists Ben, but not always. You make it sound like it always ends in death or maiming.

      That’s just not true. Be fair and leave out the bias?

      • Kenny

        Would end in death if I ever met him, his

        • TheFatController

          I killed a shipper at SD today, but unfortunately for Ben it’s not been reported. Sort of defeats the object really.

          I’ll lay low for a couple of weeks and then do the same at the next protest.

          It’s important Ben’s predictions come true.

          Did anyone other protester needlessly attack someone today ? I’m asking for my friend Ben.

      • Ben Jones

        Only you mentioned kill and maim.

        Ya’s are mental, if he had have said what you’s think then he’d have been the legend ashley-slayer nevermind mackem-slayer and you know it, so is he a Lee brother now? He’s certainly persona non grata anyway, if he posted in here he would be called a troll

        • TheFatController

          I didn’t say you had said kill and maim. I’m just giving you a little thrill.

          Shola isn’t a troll. He didn’t say it to wind people up because he’s mentally ill, he said it because he works for the Foundation.

          You’re so unable to tune into a person’s motivations at times. Try not to presume everyone is like you or should be. It’s yet another sign of your instability mentally.

          • Ben Jones

            Ahhh. There’s a reason he’s saying that, of course.

            Is he paid for his role as patron of the foundation? and is he terrified if he said his true feelings(directly inline with your own) then he would be sacked by Ashley? Is that the narrative?

  • Mirandinha9

    Special K had the right idea when he tried to offload him to Stoke City. For a Geordie, he never committed himself the way a Beardsley or Shearer did. Didn’t have the guts or tenacity. He was barged off the ball by smaller defenders more times than I can remember. He came on at Anfield once when we were losing and the scousers were laughing their heads off at him – the man we were relying on to grab an equaliser. He was once on the back of the Chronicle pre season, saying he would grab 20 goals that season. I think he did hit 20 – that is substitute appearances.

  • JohnnyNUFC

    Wonder how much Shola was paid or what he was offered for that awful punditery on the fat one, surely a man who is a similar age to me can remember when the club had ambition and would go out their way to sign world class players whether some failed or not the effort and passion by the club was there to succeed instead of just existing as an advertising vehicle for tacky wears, the fat one has a wealth of over £6 billion, the club gets over 50,000 every home game, and God knows how much they make from merchandise all across the globe, though I’m guessing most of that goes into SD coffers, then throw TV money into the mix. The short answer is we’re all being robbed, we should be easily competeting with Everton or West Ham at least transfer wise but we’re restricted to competing with Cardiff and Huddersfield who outspent us, just do us a favour Ashley, sell the club!

  • Mrkgw

    Shola went down in my estimation for that.

  • Mirandinha9

    He’s only said what he has because he’s involved with the Newcastle United Foundation. Like Beardsley (albeit I loved him as a player) and Moncur, another sycophant to Cashley.

  • Martin Rooney

    None the horrible idiots on here can hold a light to Shola in terms of what he achieved as a footballer.

    But more importantly none of you do as much for your community as he does.

    More importantly for Geordies he does it in Newcastle a place most of you never get to.
    And you abuse him for nothing other than that his opinion on whether he thinks a football club is ran well, that shows your true personality fellas.

    • Kenny

      Troll vermin 🐁🤡

    • Billmag

      When anyone is lucky enough to speak in front of the cameras at least you expect them to be honest in there assessment he’s been in and around this club to know exactly what Ashley is doing to this club, but why should we expect anything different from a dipstick like you.

      • Martin Rooney

        More evidence that idiots just abuse. However you may just be right in that he knows more about it than you and I.

        • Andy

          Why is disagreeing with you a sign of being an idiot?

          • Martin Rooney

            No that isn’t being abusive in regards to Shola I think is.

    • Andy

      …what he achieved as a footballer!? ..please elaborated

      • Martin Rooney

        He played for nufc many many times achieving more than anyone posting on here

        • Andy

          As a ‘striker’ he has an embarrassing record as to what he achieved, however if simply playing for Newcastle makes you beyond criticism, I’m sorry but I disagree

          • steve

            Second in the clubs all time European scorers list and made two world cup appearances, what have you achieved?

          • Andy

            I’m sorry but I’m from a generation who saw Waddle, Beardsley, Ferdinand, Cole, Peacock, Kelly, Withe, Shearer, Bellamy, Ba & Cisse, all footballers who were good strikers, Shola merely had the good fortune to play whilst we had a good side

          • Martin Rooney

            During which time managers saw fit to have him in the squad.

          • Andy

            Exactly, squad, if you’ve players on your books, they’re in the squad

          • steve

            Yes, what’s your point? He was never a world beater but despite all that competition you’ve listed he was able to hold his own and do a job when needed.

          • Mirandinha9

            I don’t think he was as good as Rob McDonald and George Reilly was better than him on the floor never mind in the air. He may have been up to Billy Whitehurst standard if only he’d tried a bit more…

      • panther

        somehow kept getting contracts, thats a hell of an acjievement

    • Superdooperhooper

      I live in Walker a place shola trained as a youngster. He did an interview with the mirror where he said he got the 21 bus there and had to brave a subway full of racists. Both lies the 21 doesn’t stop within a mile of the lightfoot stadium and no such subway has ever existed

      • Martin Rooney

        Making up a story for emotional effect is stupid sometimes its even a vindictive act. Which if proven as a lie he should be called out for. However everyone has told a lie and having looked for Shola interviews on the mirrors website I’m unable to find it so I guess it was an in paper interview only.

        I do know I have witnessed him receiving racial abuse from many Newcastle fans from the stands. However one incident of racism he received I’m glad I seen him deal with, after a match he was driving out the tunnel at the leazes milburn corner where all the kids hang out for autographs, he pulled his black merc over and got out signed loads of autographs talking to all the kids it was a great sight, after getting his autograph one cleverdick thought he’d be a tough guy in front of his pals and said, you’re still a useless black ***t, his reply, ‘don’t be stupid Newcastle fans are better than that.
        Carried on signing autographs despite being obviously upset.

        • Superdooperhooper

          I dunno if was the journalist lying or shola getting his facts wrong. The only subway in Walker was under Westbourne avenue /bath Street but that’s nowhere near the lightfoot. The interview was a long time ago it just stuck in my mind because it mentioned Walker and seemed to cast us in a bad light

          • Tony English

            My friend got in a taxi from the Central Station to go to Walker.

            The driver said “Waar-kar, it’s like Beirut ower there”.

            What he didn’t know was my mate was born in Walker, and her dad is from Beirut…and she never ever bites her tongue or backs down.

            He didn’t have a comfortable journey.

      • MrShack66

        Maybe he was on about the no12. Although there ain’t no subway.

        • Superdooperhooper

          There was a subway the so called Walker metro near the Westbourne club but that’s nowhere near the 12 or 21 stops

      • SuperDesHamilton

        21 & 22 don’t run from Or go through fenham either he would have to get it from the town & that would be a small 5 minute journey He’s a liar

    • Tweed Mag

      If we are all that bad and it upsets you, time you left the site. Shola has shown himself up (big style) and his assessment is out of line with everyone who has the brains to see how the club is being run.

      • Martin Rooney

        Unfortunately not many of those attend the games agree with you. Whilst we may not like mike Ashley and may want more we do know he is not doing a rape and pillage of the Club many accuse him of.
        I don’t want any cockney owning the club and prefer fan ownership models ran without taking on debt. Kind of like Ashley does. I’d also ensure there would be spare money in the bank in order to buy a replacement should any important player say get an acl injury at the start of the season.

        • Tweed Mag

          No need for debt. Where has the TV money gone and the surplus from transfers? Do you pass your ideas on to MA? Perhaps he would listen.

          • TheFatController

            I block Rooney but there’s only one prize turkey and it’s Ben Jones, sadly for Rooney, but I’m sure he’s run him a close second

          • Tweed Mag

            Their main purpose is to contradict. It is very rare for them to make some sort of constructive point. Shola is no doubt voicing an opinion he holds, but it is so far beyond reason, beyond fact and beyond common sense, that he has deservedly come in for a load of criticism. I bet his mates have given him a good talking to.

          • Ram Kishore

            If that money has gone to pay the loans.. it would be atleast better for the club.. the sale value could come down..Soon Ashley leaves.

    • SuperDesHamilton

      I couldn’t care Less what he does for the community if I’m honest, this a football site not the Samaritans

  • Andy

    Shola managed to play and train alongside strikers such as Shearer, Owen, Bellemy and Kluivert and not learn a single thing or improve as a striker in any way; a waste of time and talent (!) but could take a decent penalty, why on earth has he deserved the chance to comment on Newcastle United?

    • Duh

      He did perfect his laziness under the guidance of kluivert

      • Martin Rooney

        Kluiverts goal per game ratio?

        • Andy

          Please don’t even try to defend that lazy waste of money….

          • Martin Rooney

            Look it up you’ll be surprised he didn’t dance to shearers tune that’s all

          • Andy

            I don’t need to ‘look it up’ I went to the matches and witnessed it all, so I know what I saw, I don’t have to look up stats or make up fake arguments based on stuff I’ve read.

        • Duh

          Should be good in the nufc team he played in

    • Dingus

      Because he will shamelessly and selfishly say all the right things. Because he will, for a fee, propagate the role Sky wishes NUFC and its fans to play in the drama that is English football. Sleeping giant. 52,000. Deluded. Blaa blaa blaaaaaa

  • Tweed Mag

    Shola was limited as a player, yet he enjoyed a long career at NUFC. I have no idea why he thinks MA has ‘stabilised the club’. It has been said umpteen times before that Ashley gambles on the club staying up – and lost twice. Is that stable? Or does he think the only thing that matters is money in the bank, locked away and not invested in players, the academy and the training facilities. Shola took two touches with the ball, hopefully his second attempt at punditry will be an improvement.

    • Kenny

      he`s an idiot that`s why

      • Tweed Mag

        He deserves some stick, what a pillock.

  • Big Al 1967

    Was he pre-briefed and role played by Keith Bishop beforehand? Read the quotes back and then read the letter from yesterday to see what I mean

  • mactoon

    We’re debt free? that’s good news. What ever happened to the £144 million interest free loan we owed to Mashley?

    Idiot

    • Tweed Mag

      Shola did not read his script properly – he should have said ‘third party debt’. That must be okay in the world of Ashley and his helpers.

    • Ben Jones

      This is what you do not understand,

      While he’s here we effectively have no debt because, as you’ve alluded to, it’s interest free, when he sells there is a good chance this will no longer be the case anymore, which will mean we will have to pay interest.

      To clarify, prior to Ashley we paid interest, during ashley we will not, after ashley we more than likely will again.

      • TheFatController

        No Ben, the buyer would have no debt unless Ashley sold it to them. So no interest to pay. Yet you think they would?

        The debt is ashley’s – unless someone buys it off him it’ll always be Ashley’s.eho would buy debt off someone unless it came with something additional ?

        Do you not understand finance?

        • Ben Jones

          It’s the clubs debt

          • TheFatController

            No, it’s Ashley’s – he has to sell it when he sells for it to be the ckub’s debt.

            I absolutely love the reality of the debt. It’s what the letter to the Minister got spectacularly wrong and lost him credibility with anyone with even a basic understanding of business finance.

            It was laughable and picked up by plenty of neutrals as completely wrong.

          • Ben Jones

            It’s secured on the clubs assets, you’re talking nonsense

          • TheFatController

            No it’s not – Ashley owns the loans and the assets, how is that security for him?

            I rarely call people out but you’re ineptness at understanding assets and liabilities and loans within the accounting framework most would understand is sad to see.

            You’ve exposed yourself as a useless Turkey on money side of football.

          • Ben Jones

            It’s not ashley and Ashley thou

            It’s one of Ashley’s companies and another of Ashley’s companies .

            You’re talking nonsense

          • TheFatController

            Yep, prize turkey.

          • Ben Jones

            on this one article you’re arguing that we both do and do not have debt, i’m not sure how you expect me to take you seriously, always the same tactic of riding two horses, polar opinions, rarely are people stupid enough to attempt both at the same time. bravo

          • TheFatController

            No, mike Ashley has debt. It’s his, if he wants to sell all the players he can pay off his debt that way. No other way. Don’t you get that?

            Asset sales and revenue are all that can be used to pay off debt, or thrid party finance- loan or gift. You’re not smart enough to get that are you …

          • Ben Jones

            wind ya neck in mate, you’ve serious ego issues, remember that, always

            the price of the club is always on the basis that there is a 144m loan , so if he gets 200m he gets 144m for his loan and 56m for the club , meaning hes lost around 75m, big deal not the clubs loss , he wants 350m for the club , is it worth it?

          • TheFatController

            Ben, I don’t have issues, so that’s that rendered ineffective, it’s not the playground with sensitive 8 year olds on here. Grow up.

            No, the price of the club is set on what the buyer thinks they can pay and then get the return they want on it going forward.

            The debt is totally irrelevant to a buyer. They are buying the assets and revenue potential, the debt is irrelevant to them. The debt is what Ashley couldn’t write off against revenue. To a buyer that’s his problem, why would they pay for it if it’s not their problem? Who pays for something that won’t make them money or give them non-monetary benefits?

            It’s a real turkey shoot tonight. You’re clueless.

          • Ben Jones

            the buyer will either pay 100% for the club with no debt or they will pay ~60% the value of the club and the remaining 40% will be the debt

          • TheFatController

            🦃

      • Danimal

        It was nowhere near £144m before Ashley darkened our doors. If it used to be, for argument’s sake, £90m and now it is £144m…and it will still need paying off by a new owner even after they’ve given your hero £350m….then how the hell is it interest free and how the hell do we have no debt?

        • Ben Jones

          it can all be simplified anyway, he paid 275m for the club full stop

        • Ram Kishore

          The 350 million does include the debt ig..
          Seriously none of us know how the deal was set up when staveley offered money

    • Geordiegiants

      They can’t have it both ways, we either have debt or we don’t. The doylems on here use it which ever way suites them.

      • Duh

        You can’t really owe yourself money. This is more like equity.

        He owns the club so he’d have to pay himself back.

        If he sold the club, he’d have to cancel the debt also.

      • Ben Jones

        Ok I’ll explain my view, the club has 144m of debt, the club currently has borrowed this 144m from Mike ashley at 0% interest, meaning the club escapes ~10m a year in interest payments, when the club is sold then this 144m debt will need to be paid off by the new owners OR it will be a loan, at approximately 10m a year interest(not paying the capital off at all)

        Hope that helps

        • Milburn_Taylor

          There is no debt, there never was any debt & there never will be any debt.

          • Ben Jones

            No you’re talking about unicorns

          • Milburn_Taylor

            you`re talking schitt, now go away

        • TheFatController

          Yes, we’d prefer it from a bank and to have a new owner.

          Banks would be happy given the size of club and turnover, so long as it wasn’t run by Barnes and Charnley as the bank would know the likelihood of relegation due to them never learning from mistakes.

          Anyone else in charge, banks would be confident we’d pay £10m a year and eat into that debt annually also.

          • Ben Jones

            And the extra ‘investment’ from the owners? More debt on top?

            you’re already already talking 10m worse off PLUS say, 10m off the balance, so ~20M worse off an we are now, that’s not advancing is it

          • TheFatController

            It is, as we’d not be relegated like Ashley’s club was twice.

            £10m would be covered by the cup runs achieved by playing full strength teams. £1.5m revenue per home tie plus tv money etc.

            Add on we’d all be buying pies etc again and commercial revenue would be up across 20 home games minimum.

            How do you think other big clubs make their money? Surely you’re not that ignorant to football finances and revenues ?

            Hold that, then again maybe you are yes ..

          • Ben Jones

            Ahhhh the great pie boycoutt that we hear no end of, is that actually happening? How many pies = 1 million pounds, sodexo might be able to tell you.

            Guaranteed cup runs from the new owner sounds ambitious but who wouldn’t want a piece of that?

            Selling pies mate, other clubs mate their money by selling pies

          • TheFatController

            No, they make a lot of money from cup runs, and commercial match day, and tv payments for cup games.

            It’s not much on top of the club’s fixed costs so it’s all pure profit on a cup run.

            Ashley doesn’t like cup runs only because his squad isn’t safe from relegation, but new owners won’t face that problem as they’ll be better at football business than Ashley, and trust football people with the football side.

            New owners will destroy Ashley’s performance at every level, fortunately for us, because his performance has been atrocious. He’s the prize turkey of football

          • Martin Rooney

            So Rafa is a puppet like pardew and is dictated to who to play in the cups?

          • Martin Rooney

            Fantasy one minute arguing Rafa doesn’t get enough cash then suggest we take twenty mil out the club each year.
            Seriously

          • Martin Rooney

            8% from Barclay’s under hall and Shep that’s one new player less per

          • Danimal

            Did you stop typing when you realised that it would be virtually impossible for us to invest less in players than we do now?

          • Ram Kishore

            We can take loan from whomever we want.. but at the end of the day if the club isn’t managed properly by the admin and doesn’t expand our revenues and if the team fails on the pitch..we are done..

        • Tony English

          If as quoted here it’s £144m, we agree the club would be liable to pay the interest on this debt.

          Ashley has just moved money from one account to another to cover the debt to avoid paying this £10m interest per year, so he’s saving HIMSELF £10m a year.

          In return for this ‘free’ loan he takes ‘free’ advertising, lets for sake of argument value the advertising at £10m a year.

          Once again, as always, he’s quids in.

          Anyway…about this rich woman…

          • Martin Rooney

            At the match today I noted that very little of the pitch side ads are for SPD as you would expect everything is for sale and it as appeared that some of the stand positions are being bought up by other advertisers like bet365 also

          • Tony English

            Maybe the money was too good to turn down today?

            I noticed on sky they cut to Yedlin as he was being helped up the steps in the tunnel, the commentator said “that doesn’t look good” and I thought, aye you’re not wrong, all those horrible bloody SD adverts we were discussing the other week, doesn’t look good at all.

        • Andy

          In what other situation would a new ‘owner’ state that their new purchase ‘owed’ them anything? Surely if you purchase something, you take it all on. If I bought a car or house I buy it on face value, Fat Mike appears to treat the club like he’s re mortgaged it and now needs repayments.

          • Ben Jones

            Fine, his outlay is ~275m and he wants ~350m . What’s the problem?

          • TheFatController

            I want a toilet seat of solid gold but it’s just not happening baby

          • Ben Jones

            …..and according to you the club is worth…

          • TheFatController

            What the market will pay, simple economics – you really ask me that and don’t know the answer is that ? Turkey city

          • Ben Jones

            what so you’re not even willing to say roughly what you think its worth and why?

          • TheFatController

            I’d have to value the assets and calculate future revenues against cost of generating that revenue, and the cost of any additional investment, likely payback period and interest.

            So, no. It’s not that simple. My god you’re bizarre on finance.

          • Ben Jones

            so you’ve never said hes asking too much? ok fair enough,

            and you’ve never made out the club is generating huge excess sums of money already and theres more yet to tap into?

            youre telling me you wouldnt even guess the clubs value with a 100m margin of error either way? is it THAT hard to pin you down to a rough guess?

          • TheFatController

            I know what it’s worth. PCP valued it and they had top professionals looking at the books doing diligence.

            They walked away with a final offer of about £300m I believe – so that’s a good guess obviously – it wasn’t worth more to top accountants and they’ve been proved right as no one has offered higher.

          • Ben Jones

            and he wants 350m , so a 50m difference, wonder what the profit was from the end of last season and how much they valued lascelles at back then, sounds like the 350m is about right now , wouldnt you agree?

          • TheFatController

            No, because now Rafa is leaving whereas he came with the club last year.

            NIce try, close but no cigar Turkey.

          • Ben Jones

            oh hes leaving is he? you have insider info do you? why is he leaving oh bright one?

          • TheFatController

            Because legally he doesn’t have a contract from May.

            He was offered a new contract and didn’t sign.

            What part of that makes you think he’s staying ?

            Turkey x2 tonight Ben.

          • Ben Jones

            why wont he sign a contract? because of Ashley? you know were discussing a new buyer right? ashley wouldnt be a problem for rafa once he has sold

          • TheFatController

            You have insider info do you?

            Turkey x3

          • Ben Jones

            make your mind up, i thought the only reason rafa wouldnt sign is because of ashley , with a new owner ashley ceases to be a problem surely?

          • TheFatController

            Yes, but now the buyers wouldn’t include Rafa in the valuation of the club because he’s not Ashley’s asset. Ashley can’t value him if the buyers know he’s leaving Ashley if they don’t buy the club.

            Mike ‘£350m?’
            Buyer ‘no. Rafa’s Leaving and thus you’re right in the proverbial, only we can prevent that proverbial happening by buying the club…’
            mike ‘£350m or it’s off’
            Buyer ‘ok, it’s off. Good luck replacing Rafa and holding it all together with the problems you know you’ll have. Bye’

            So, as I just said, Rafa is not part of the valuation.

            Turkey x4

          • Ben Jones

            all the profit from last season plus we would have gotten 10m more than their valuation of mitro plus lascelles increased value, ya talking 80m ontop of the 300m , so 380m minus rafa, 30m , so 350m sounds about right and the buyers snag a nice 30m paper boost as soon as rafa signs his contract, happy days

          • Danimal

            You can’t seriously be trying to value a relegation-threatened football club based on some notional transfer value of its players? What are the new owners going to do with that? Sell the players then realise they’ve just got themselves a big rented piece of grass with some concrete and plastic seats around the edge?

          • Ben Jones

            right so how do you think it was valued if the players and their worth were not taken into consideration whatsoever?

            we are less relegation threatened than last season FACT therefore have to be worth a little more based on that alone

          • TheFatController

            No, because Rafa’s leaving. When your prize asset is leaving next summer that devalues the club.

            Who will replace Rafa that makes relegation less likely?

          • Ben Jones

            youre arguing that the value of the players mean nothing to the valuation yet rafa means everything to it

            youre an idiot, riding two horses again

          • TheFatController

            Because players’ influence can be replaced to ensure revenue remains but Rafa can’t be replaced so revenues are seriously threatened.

            You’re out of your depth trying to bring your woeful knowledge of revenue generator value to a company.

            It’s like saying the value of Elton John’s band musicians to an Elton John tour is the same as the value of Elton John to it.

            The musicians are easily replaced, Elton John is irreplaceable. So work out their respective values financially ?

            See, everyone is now saying ‘ if anyone looks the idiot, it’s Turkey Ben ..’

          • Ben Jones

            yeah yeah i understand youre using the turkey thing to influence people even though, if youre right, you woudnt actually have to bother as people would know anyway,

            so youre saying all the players that cost money to buy are irrelevant to the valuation yet rafa who cost nothing means a LOT, is that genuinely what youre saying?

          • TheFatController

            Ben, you keep talking turkey.

            I’m saying the players valuation doesn’t alter every month or so like you suggest because assets on balance sheets (that form
            The basis of valuations) are depreciated based on accounting practices, not fluctuating valuations injury and loss of form don’t count in accounting, but contract length remaining against original valuation is)

            Sony kite annoying because you have no idea about these elements of accounting so should really, as you say, wind your neck in.

            Rafa differs from this not because he is an asset on the balance sheet, but because he is a factor in the strengths weakness opportunities threats (SWOT) analysis of market conditions that will influence future revenues.

            So, when the buyer analyses the market, they will conclude ‘this company is f*cked badly when Rafa leaves’……….

            So they adjust the paper value down to accommodate unaccounted for flies in the future ointment.

            You’re clearly not even remotely qualified in accountancy so maybe rather than making a fool of yourself give up now ?

          • Ben Jones

            lol waffle.

            I’m saying the players valuation doesn’t alter every month or so like you suggest…….

            ………but contract length remaining against original valuation is

            so youre saying the players have a value at the time youre valuing them, thats what i said

            what i said is i dont think mitro will have been valued at 22-27m

            youre all over the place

          • TheFatController

            Ben, your need to win at all costs is a bad sign, I can’t wish you any ill will because you shame as a weapon so much it’s clear you’re shame-basedabd I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy (enemy as in someone you know personality and not a rival username on a website that would only become personal to the insecure among us)

            I don’t say turkey to dig at you, I just do it to lighten it up for anyone else who may read it. But you lose it every once in a while, it’s like you come on here to prove yourself. Don’t do that, it’s faceless and impersonal on here, so you can’t prove anything to anyone that means anything. This is not the real world, no one is accountable, which is the opposite to the reality of the outside world.

          • Ben Jones

            sounds like waffle from a man whos wound his neck in

            ive seen you claim to have barrister like qualities, youve made out youre a psychologist and the latest tonight an accountant, and youre showing all the traits of a man with a bruised ego, let it go, its not important

            [email protected]

          • TheFatController

            No Ben, that’s turkey talk.

            The club is valued on potential income, as a going concern, and future market conditions dictate etc

            Where your ‘snapshot in time’ valuation is at is if the club went into administration and needed to meet its creditors by selling its assets. Then the value today of players would be as relevant as you suggest, but it’s not administration it’s a sale of a going concern

          • Ben Jones

            in that case the 45 million we got for players this window has to be added to the valuation in its entirety

          • TheFatController

            If the £45m is sat in the bank yes – that’s an easily liquidated guaranteed redeemable asset on the balance sheet, it’s value does not fluctuate by market conditions or performance like.player values .

            Top turkey.

          • Ben Jones

            happy days, easy money

          • Danimal

            Does he? When did he announce that?

          • Ben Jones

            fair

          • Ram Kishore

            Players value and performance can swing any minute and anything can happen to his value..
            So bringing his value is not feasible to calculate the value of the club..
            I am just pointing to the mistake.

          • Ben Jones

            i’ll give you 80% and retain 20%
            yes and no

            extremes expose flaws,

            if a team stupidly bought 20 30 year olds for 25m each on 5 year contracts, i wouldnt be looking at 300m worth of assets 2.5years into their contract for a bunch of 32/33 year olds

            conversely, a team of youth costing 5m each on 5 year contracts who have moulded into a team of superstars, i wouldnt be looking at 60m worth of assets 2.5years into their contract

            so there has to be an element of using many factors to determine individual asset value

            what happens to a player who signs a new contract for another 4 years? what his value based on?

          • Ram Kishore

            You have got few things right.. but everything depends on how the assesses value the club and the valuation by the seller and buyer..
            Let’s say Ashely values Jamal at 40 million it doesn’t mean the club’s buyer should pay 40 million extra ?
            Am i right?

          • Ben Jones

            Yeah but say I was selling and you were buying, and by your figures he was worth 10m, that means I could sell him for 40m and knock 10m off the price for you, would you be happy? I could do Shelvey in the same window and click another 10-15m for myself, and by purely using your method you’d be happy being Shelvey and lascelles light for a 20m saving as it makes no difference to your calculations, whereas I’m 45m up, could you replace them both for 20m? Would you take the gamble or are we meeting half way?

          • Ram Kishore

            Yeah I get ya now..
            But a single player’s value rise shouldn’t be the sole decisive factor for raising the club’s value by 50 million right?

          • Ben Jones

            Depends on his value I guess.

            If I wanted 350 and you would only go to 300 based purely on your method of valuing the assets(just the players in this instance) then I’m as privy to the figures as you are, more so. If I know your paper worth of my players then what’s stopping me cherry picking the valuable ones, selling them and knocking your valuation of them all off the price, your numbers remain the same so technically you’re paying what you value it at and I’m getting what I want, we both get what we want. (I know that’s the same point again expanded a little) maybe that has some bearing on the valuation discrepancies. Who knows Ram

        • The BBC is FAKENEWS

          Great, that explains why sports direct pay £0 for advertising all over the football club, why all the club shop profit goes to sports direct, where the profit on player trading goes and the extra £80m tv money has gone.

          Duh..

          • Ben Jones

            we’re already too far apart to begin this journey of discovery together

        • Danimal

          It helps to make you sound even sillier than usual.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    First of all Phil I suggest that you and your mates buy the club and compete with Man City and Chelsea as you are boring me to death. Shola has done endless work for the Newcastle United Foundation and loves the club something you will never will.

    • Milburn_Taylor

      we are not talking charity, we are talking football, go and talk charity to the other trolls, goodbye

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Slept with his best friends wife on a big family holiday as well don’t forget

      • Ben Jones

        Howay Des, we’ve all done it

        • SuperDesHamilton

          His pals wife? Is she that easy?!

        • TheFatController

          What, had sex? Well done you.

          • Ben Jones

            no Des, well done us

    • TheFatController

      If it’s boring you to death, why don’t you direct your comments at Ashley and tell him to sell the club.

      The anger at Ashley is valid, you can’t dress it up as not. We never have a cup run, deliberately. We’re a cup club!

      Perhaps consider what the club stood for before Ashley and what he stands for? They’re total opposites.

      You can’t tell others not to be against him when he’s got nothing about him that matches the club’s Values. You just sound like you’re kranky and weird when you can’t see the obvious.

      • Martin Rooney

        Mike please sell the club preferably to a Geordie ino Alan shearer as he is a mega rich person and apparently .
        Knows exactly how to run a club

        • Superdooperhooper

          Who said that ?

    • Superdooperhooper

      So loving the club and doing charity work means what exactly?

  • SuperDesHamilton

    He struggled to put a sentence together & when he did it was utter tripe! Pandering to the masses by saying we want superstars, me or no fan I know want or expect superstars but we’d like a bit more spent on players considering the money that the club generates.

    Despite living his full life in Newcastle the lad still doesn’t get it & would be best advised to stop embarrassing himself

    • Geordiegiants

      I think he might be getting a little bit of stuck the next time he is seen out in Newcastle.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        Definitely, as long as it isn’t anything too much a reckon it’s totally warranted

  • BanJones

    You’ve got it all wrong lads, ashley is trying to make as little money as possible you daft cnuts he loves the club doesn;t he? Howay he might be a fat idiot but what’s that got to do with common sense eh?

  • SuperDesHamilton

    As much as Shola is an absolute clown I’d love to know….which Lee brother is he?

    • Ben Jones

      All the traits of David, I think he’s the younger non racist one

      • SuperDesHamilton

        Who done his make up today, they done a good job disguising him like.

        • Tony English

          I look forward to being accused of being a ‘Shola’…even though I’ve never said a word in Ashley’s defence in my life.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            You & the Lee brothers along with Ashley also done 9/11, Leazes said. It must be true.

  • joe mac

    my god!….sholas on the fu++n ahsley gravy train!!……we are beyond help!!…i give up!!

  • The BBC is FAKENEWS

    Shola has disgraced himself there

    • fistsofsteel2

      No. It’s the likes of you who disgrace this fine club and city.

  • GlasgowMag

    Shola, Shola, Shola Ok you have another job but don’t forget your roots mate no matter what prenuptial they get you to sign fatboy is not a good guy!!

  • Desree

    Dumb comments.

    Great crowd, which kind of backed up Sholas comments.

  • Danimal

    On the payroll. No other explanation. Shameful and shameless at the same time.

  • fistsofsteel2

    I’m realising this site isn’t for Newcastle fans……..it’s for a bitter and twisted bunch of Ashley haters – who are actually ignorant about the game of football itself. A depressing and sad site that reflects badly on the city.

    Change your attitude, change your agenda, or change your name and disappear to where the sun don’t shine.

    Newcastle were very unlucky today……and deserved at least a draw.

    • Duh

      Very true

    • GlasgowMag

      Fistsofsteel2 what does that mean???

      • TheFatController

        It means it a sequel to Fistsofsteel?

        • GlasgowMag

          R right just googled it thought it was a Sheffield thing but then again just back in from the pub cheers TFC!! 😂😂😂

          • TheFatController

            Orb you’re home it might be on 5USA?

    • Geordiegiants

      What a load ofshit your spewing. We were second rate and Tottenham were not even trying.

    • TheFatController

      I’m not bitter and twisted, I just hate getting relegated and being outspent by Huddersfield and Bournemouth, and not having cup runs.

      That’s not bitter towards Ashley, that’s rational and logical ‘how does that happen, clown?’ Justifiable bewilderment …

    • Steve Smith

      You’re not a united supporter.

      • Geordiegiants

        Well said Leazes!

    • Leazes.

      Yeah sure…we must have been unlucky for the last eleven years!

      Fist of steel….brains of Jelly!

    • Scott Robinson

      “Ashley is either stupidly overvaluing a ‘business’ he’s deliberately ran down hoping some mug will fall for his spiel, or he has never had any intention of selling the club.
      Rafa will walk. Ashley won’t get another offer as good as Stavely’s. He won’t invest money on players because he sees it as a waste and doesn’t understand football as a business. He took a chance teasing, then rebuking Staveley. The club is doomed.”

      That is what you once said so why do you think we should love Super Mike who runs the club as a business to the degree we are doomed? Insult me and I might use my fistsofsteeltoo

      • Martin Rooney

        What is there to ‘understand football as a business’ you buy players sell players coach players employ part time caterers cleaners turn style operators stewards. And as its a business keep the bank in the black.
        Simple really.
        The truth is the wolves and Fulham will not achieve European qualification this year and those gravy trains for those clubs will dry up. Its pointless

    • gordon

      Ah hello again ghostrider – ‘I’m realising this site isn’t for Newcastle fans’ – pish off then you’re hated on here almost as much as Fatboy. Blocked……again.

    • Wezza

      Ashley haters? Obviously you’re trolling David so bye bye.

  • Carverlier football

    “We’ve got no debt”… Well actually we’ve got £144m debt which, unlike normal debt in a well-run business, isn’t being paid down in a sensible repayment schedule and hasn’t been invested in something which provides a tangible return. The £75m 3rd party debt when Mr Ashley took over would have been getting paid down on a regular basis, and given it was invested in increasing the clubs capacity it paid for itself. Which is why businesses take out bank loans. Don’t know what the repayment term was but it would’ve been greatly reduced by now, maybe even paid down. Instead we’re in hoc to Ashley with loans which paid for self-inflicted relegation, not investment, and with inflated liabilities which put off buyers. “We’ve got no debt…”

    • Ben Jones

      rubbish, youre suggesting the club would have had more money to play with if we both paid interest and paid down the capital rather than paying nothing whatsoever. lets say your 75m figure is true(it isnt but whatever), if the interest was 7% and we paid 7.5m a year off the capital plus the interest it would have taken 10 years and cost the club over 100m, thats if it was 75m but it wasnt it was more , how can the club be better off by being worse off?

      • TheFatController

        No Ben, he’s suggesting without two relegations the debt would have been manageable because it was invested in seats to increase revenue.

        We have minimised costs to exist on tv money to keep us in the PL to advertise SD.

        Someone without the motive of existing to advertise SD would build up revenues outside of tv money, such as commercial.

        You Ashley apologists should really be comparing us to Spurs who have a far better squad and brand new stadium compared to us with £144m debt and not many assets to meet that debt.

        You’re setting up the financially astute among us to show how Ashley is a woeful owner when it comes to growth. We’re getting left behind by the likes of Spurs as a resukt. Look at their new stadium. They are growing, we are stagnating or going backwards.

        You can’t spin that because spurs have destroyed us in and off the field, and other clubs are doing likewise that aren’t close to the size of spurs but work out growth might keep them in the PL more than cost cutting.

        Turkey analysis from you again

        • Duh

          I don’t think it’s really lack of advertising revenue that’s hurt us.

          It’s probably a lot of things; no end product from the academy, a lot of speculation on French players (some paid off, some did not) and, 2 relegations as you point out.

          His bad stewardship of the club hurts him just as much as it hurts the supporters (in a different way of course).

          As for an advertising vehicle for sports direct, it is a constant stream of bad publicity.

          If I were him, I would sell, it’s just not worth the hassle. Weird bloke though.

        • Ben Jones

          theres not a hope in hell we could have kept any decent squad together with the money we owed to clubs for transfers and pay the interest and pay the capital , we were about to become a massive selling club on a downward spiral, we only avoided relegation by 5 points the season prior to Ashley

          • TheFatController

            But a buyer would have controlled the debts because of the massively increase in th revenue in the last decade.

            We had debts on players and the ground, but turnover was increasing to such an extent it now dwarfs the costs that were in the game a decade ago.

            A debt of £75m can now be paid off with 3 years of 15% of turnover and that’s without selling any playing assets or renegotiating the debt over a longer period.

            In summary of all this financial talk – ashley’s Failure with the club ownership has been to downsize when the industry is booming. Forget the lies and disrespect, he’s just got the industry growth spectacularly wrong, you speculate to accumulate in modern football and if you succeed you are like Bournemouth and if you don’t you’re like Norwich or Villa – but even the losers still get big crowds in the championship so why not speculate. The worst is you’re championship but a club like newcastle should easily be PL regulars given only bad owners of clubs our size don’t speculate and accumulate massively (eg Spurs)

          • Ben Jones

            85m turnover 06/07 with 70m in wages, debt, interest, huge transfer deficit, we were tanking and you know it, we were about to sell our best and replace them with frees and hope for the best, despite only avoiding relegation by 5 points previous season

          • TheFatController

            You make my point for me – £85m turnover then v £170m now. Double.

            We’d have been bought by a shrewd owner, not cost cutting no growth stagnating and relegating turkey mike

          • Ben Jones

            yes, youre trying to mix in then (12years ago 25m tv income) with now (12 years later and 125m tv income) to make out there was no problem back then because look at all the money now, yes, now is not then and then we were in trouble

          • TheFatController

            No, we had a loan on the stadium expansion and some debts on player purchases.

            That’s trouble if you can’t find a buyer who wants in on the future groth industry. Which is 99.9 % of owners.

            The 0.1% owner is Ashley of course, not in it for growth but for exposure for SD brand.

            Which is why we haven’t grown and other clubs have.

            🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃

          • Ben Jones

            85m turnover, 70m wages, debt, interest, running costs, huge transfer deficit. we were tanking and you know it

    • Carverlier football

      The reason I signed up was because as a long time reader I’d grown tired of reading particular posters with obvious ulterior motives. The fact this post has one response at time of writing and I can’t read it makes me very happy…

      • Ben Jones

        saves having to answer my response too, win-win

    • Duh

      Sorry mate, as much as I despise Ashley, this loan is really equity. It’s money he’s invested in the club.

      He does not seem to take anything out but he also does not seem to put anything additional in.

      The advertising is probably chump change but other income is either murky (where does the merchandising go?) or not exploited (e.g selling shirts in Asia).

      I reckon the club makes a profit but not that much, not that supports £100m in player acquisitions (+ of course agents fees, wages etc.)

      If you want that you have to a) have a sugar daddy or b) borrow some money. Ashley will do neither.

      He won’t even spend the future cash flows expected from the likes of mitrovich.

      • Carverlier football

        Future cash flows – exactly… The model of paying fees up front but receiving fees in intallments is often pleaded in hierachy poverty arguments but if you look at every sale in the last 4 years, assume we recieved a 5th of each fee this summer (plus the first instalment of this summer’s sales) it really adds up… £35-40m at least. Merchandising income disappearing off to SD is one of the various reasons commercial income is so criminally poor relative to other clubs. And most years I’d agree profit doesn’t support £100m player aquisitions but by my reckoning, based on the previous accounts and last year’s income, we’re sitting on at least £75m after the transfer window. Maybe it’s gone towards paying down the loan – I’d actually applaud that, the less we owe him the better. But I’d rather we’d paid back £25m and invested the other £50m in a striker and no.10…

        • Duh

          Yeah, I reckon there is cash somewhere between 25-75m over and above what is needed to meet expense commitments like wages and what not but, we don’t really know.

          Maybe some of the loan got paid back for the purpose of funding the house of Fraser acquisition.

          Even if that is the case, it’s not going to help the club. It makes no difference if the loan is paid back or not.

          • Carverlier football

            Given SD is a plc I don’t think our surplus has anything to do with HoF – but the timing definitely feels a bit like two fingers up to Newcastle fans…

        • Martin Rooney

          Problem with him paying the loan is that the club is worth £400m, if he’s to sell it he’ll get £400m at the moment it would be in two parts a purchase of shares at a cost of £255m and a repayment of a loan of £145m he would not pay any capital gains tax on the loan part. If the club takes £25m out and pays it off the loan then its £25m less for players wages etcetc but also results in him paying £5m more tax when selling it. Its not in his, Rafa’s or ours benefit to do that

        • Kneebotherm8

          Guaranteed………it hasn’t gone towards paying down the loan…..

          • Ram Kishore

            U may never mate.. maybe if it’s going to pay the loan..It’s a good thing that his valuation reduces and he will leave soon..

          • Kneebotherm8

            He’s not leaving any time soon…….prepare for another decade of his tenure….

      • Ram Kishore

        Good one with clarity..
        Merchandise will be murky due to many factors.. won’t be in accounts and only if the club divulged the detail of the agreement .. we can expect some sort of clarity.

        • Lofty

          I read that the deal he tied Rangers to was that the club received 7p in the pound on any profit. So if they sold enough merchandise to make £1m profit they’d only receive £70,000. I’m not certain but I think the club have had to go to court to either re-negotiate or cancel this contract. I hope that isn’t the case for us, but it would explain some of the reverse trend in commercial income?

          • Ram Kishore

            Yeah, the fans forum will be a right opportunity to ask for the club to disclose the terms.. Does anyone from fans forum has ever put up the demand? Is there a fans forum member, a mag reader

          • gordon

            The last forum discussed car-parking spaces and whether some fans would have trouble seeing the big screen when VAR comes in – I seriously wouldn’t hold your breath mate

      • Lord

        To be pedantic, the loan isn’t equity. A buyer could theoretically buy 100% of shares in the club with Ashley retaining the loan.

        The only difference between the club owing Ashley £144m vs Barclays, say, is the lack of interest payments.

        • Duh

          I know a loan is not equity but in this case I think it essentially is as the debt would be cancelled if someone bought the club.

          Of course that would be reflected in the purchase price.

    • Lofty

      Of the £75m Carverlier, the mortgage (around £50m I think) would have been paid up in 2014 I believe. The rest would have been paid off on the completion of whichever players contracts they were owed on. This was, and still is the practice for the vast majority of clubs, especially when transfer fees are so inflated at the moment.
      In my opinion, Mr Ashley has used this to say he had actually saved the club money on the interest owed (around £6m a year at the time). He can then use that as an excuse to not pay for any of the ridiculous amount of advertising in and on the stadium and training facilities.
      Another of the stories fed to us is that no other company – in the world – is interested in taking up that advertising space.

  • WildBill

    Big Al continues to be the only voice on national tv not afraid to say it like it is. Shola has gone down in my estimation after today’s embarrassing performance on Sky.

  • Hughie_Gallacher

    A waste of space to rank alongside Michael Owen and now a quisling to boot.

  • Down Under Mag

    I’m really suprised by this from Shola. It shows either an extreme ignorance, a total lack of empathy with the club or at worst a clear effort to try and tell it like everyone else is to not rock the boat and secure himself a gig on Sky. Or perhaps this is payback to all those fans who called him rubbish all those years… who knows lol.

    Well at least Mitrovic didn’t score to give those chirpy individuals claiming rafa got that wrong ammunition :)

    • Ram Kishore

      I would say the latter.. revenge 😂😂

    • Kenny

      good point & to top the day off, Joselu hit his target for the season in the first game

      • Kneebotherm8

        He should have had an assist as well…..

  • gordon

    Looked a bit shifty to me, quick glances to either side are a dead giveaway body language-wise. I suspect he was obligated by Sky to toe the line; which makes his comments even worse – bad enough coming out with this drivel if you believe it, saying it if you don’t believe it is despicable.

  • Kenny

    Shola`s a snide and this place is full of troll vermin all with the same patter

    • ghostrider

      Shola was a loyal servant to the club. He served his time and was there in every aspect from background to forefront.
      He doesn’t deserve bile or digs just because he has a different view to some.

      • Kenny

        take a hike schit head 💩 🤡

        • ghostrider

          Kenny.

    • Tony English

      “this place is full of troll vermin all with the same patter”

      Funnily enough for once I agree with you, they’re the one’s who repeat ad infinitum “troll troll troll vermin troll manchester troll troll lee brothers blocked blocked troll troll vermin”.

      Have you tried using the other keys on your keyboard? There are loads of other words they can make.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        A just report him every comment 😩

        • Tony English

          He displays a staggering lack of self awareness. World class tunnel vision.

  • ghostrider

    Shola said things that some fans just didn’t want to hear.
    Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.

    A bunch of fans wanting him to slate the owner because it adds to their supposed reasoning as to why the man (Ashley) needs to be hated.

    What a load of tosh.

    The fans in the stadium showed me the real truth of what fans really want and it’s not to focus on Ashley or badness about the club.
    It’s to focus on coming to watch the team on the pitch play whatever opposition.

    • Kenny

      funny how all you trolls have the same patter, band of schitheads

      • Wezza

        They’re two brothers, who coincidentally didn’t post whilst Man Utd were playing on Friday. Fancy that.

        • Kenny

          i know, prawn sarnie nonces

          • Wezza

            And how pathetic is it when the trolls respond when they’re blocked. Talk about desperate for attention.

          • Tony English

            This comment is BLOCKED by the blinkered and bewildered who only come here to talk to the like minded… ..how pathetic is that?

        • Tony English

          White coats are on their way.

      • ghostrider

        Kenny..

    • TheFatController

      Supposed reasoning?

      Hijacking a national institution to make it what it always was for the 15 years of the PL – a PL club – but not have a cup runs, all so he can promote giant business.

      I don’t know where your moral compass points, but given he’s using people to further his own interests and is doing NOTHING ELSE you’re clearly not anormal person to think he’s hated for bizarre reasons.

      The reasons are clear and understandable to every mentally balanced person I’ve met/ seen discuss it.

      I would say, as a trained psychotherapist, you could tell a narcissist or borderline personality disorder person by their inability to see what mike Ashley is doing wrong and why the community hates him.

      All psychology relates back to understanding social morals insome way or other / the more you ‘don’t get them’, the more the disorder is clearly present.

      • ghostrider

        Do you know why dogs fight when you stamp your feet?
        Do you know why you can make one person follow the route of 5 even if they don’t think like the 5?
        Do you know why one person can make thousands sing the same song as him/her?

        To tread any path in peace, do what the natives do.
        The natives do what the elders tell them to do, so before you follow the natives who follow the elders…. ask yourself why.

        The pen is mightier than the sword.
        One sheep dog can pen many many sheep.
        One person can control one sheep dog or many to pen many many sheep.

        The black sheep will become the hunted. That’s the sheep that refuses to be penned.
        That’s the sheep that is cast off where other sheep refuse to follow because their fear of the sheep dog outweighs their ability to follow just one sheep that strays the built up pack.

        The minority become the villains or the martyr’s.
        Alternate views to the built up majority become troublesome to the unity of that majority who feel comfortable in their own pack.

        Even a fact from a minority will be cast off as a fallacy by majority.

        Sit 20 people around a table. Have one person give them all a few numbers to add up in their heads.
        The numbers are 10 +11+ 8 =?
        We all know the answer is 29.
        Now imagine if the first 10 people to call out the answer, one after the other around that table are told to all say 28, then what do you think the last 10 people will say? Bearing in mind that none of them can confer until they actually finish voicing their answer.

        You know as well as anyone that the 10 remaining will, generally simply follow the wrong answer.
        They know the answer is wrong but 10 people have placed massive doubt into their heads and no way do they want to stand out as some kind of dunce or be oddly looked at.
        It just becomes easy and much more comfortable to give out the wrong answer in acceptance of the rest of the same number answers.

        On rare occasions you will get a few extremely strong minded people who will go against the grain, but rare enough to be sure as to why the masses build up on something whether they do it for the right reasons or the wrong ones.

        Most follow the masses because it’s just so much easier to do so.

        • TheFatController

          I think you’re confusing being an individual who knows their own mind with not accepting society’s accepted values.

          So, a football club is there for the fans, traditionally the local community but now much wider of course, to enjoy dreaming of better for the club.

          Mike Ashley has taken that dream away, all for the sake of promoting a business that has the worst reputation of any in the UK.

          Maybe stop seeing loyalty to ashley as you being smarter than the average person, and see it as you not understanding human nature or the reason football clubs exist.

          • gordon

            Jesus don’t bother replying to him – it just encourages the idiot to post more illogical diatribes. I’ve blocked him and this board is so much more pleasant not having to wade through pages of his drivel, taking the opposite side in every argument as long as it is in support of God-Emperor Ashley. The man is a goon who obviously suffers from fatmanbendoverphilia and thinks that making the final comment in a thread means he has won the argument. Save yourself a lot of interaction between your head and brick walls and just ignore the attention-seeking tit

          • TheFatController

            I’m taking your advice. Blocked.

          • ghostrider

            The dream is still there for the fans of all clubs, no matter how close or distant it may seem.
            That hasn’t been taken away.
            It just depends on what the actual dream is and how far back you want to go to use as some kind of yardstick of realising a dream.

            You see, hopes and dreams are always there.
            Nostalgia is always there in your mind, whether you lived the time or live off of it through the footage or stories of those who did.

            As for sports direct having the worst reputation. Not a chance does it.
            It does in the minds of people like yourself because your hatred and adherence to silly political attempts to bring him down is etched into your mind.
            The reality is, people use his business and work in his business in abundance.
            His business creates a paid workforce no matter how much you think they should be earning.
            Take a look around the entire country to get a clue as to how businesses play the economy.

            Ohhh and my loyalty is to Newcastle United and many many other things in life.
            As for Ashley, I will back him if I think he’s right and slate him if I think he’s wrong, as I have done.
            I don’t see what he’s doing wrong other than not spending record breaking amounts of players…and if that’s a crime then he’s guilty, because he certainly pays extremely excellent wages for what he does buy in.

            I know you want the local hero type return like Shearer or a trophy signing or two in the 40/50/60 million type bracket so you can boast to your trophy hunting friends who profess to be fans of the elite clubs.
            Look past that and concentrate on enjoying the team you have with players that are willing to wear the shirt and try.

        • Kev Newcastle England

          Wtf

          • ghostrider

            You’re getting there.
            Keep at it.

          • Kev Newcastle England

            Wtf

          • ghostrider

            Never mind, at least you had a second go at it.

          • Kev Newcastle England

            Wtf . AHL.

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Make the club what it was, insolvent?

  • Cuh

    He gave his opinion.

    He went further to suggest the fans aren’t of the same opinion.

    He then gave a true picture of Rafa’s point of view.

    The only troll here is the clickbaiter who wrote this garbage just to pull others into his openly proclaimed dislike of Shola.

    • Kenny

      troll nonce, p1$$ off

      • Martin Rooney

        There there little Kenny, I guess its tough being thick.

        • Kenny

          Big Kenny now f~~k off Micky you sad piece of 💩💩

          • Martin Rooney

            lal kenny, man hadaway, I remember hearing of a ‘Kenny on ee’s nees’ in strings, was that ye? If so great to be in touch with a local hero, very popular.

        • Kenny

          do something useful like your mum
          🤡

          • Martin Rooney

            ha she’d kill ya, ya numpty and she’s 85 next month

  • Leazes.

    Selection of twitter posts..

    “just heard what Shola Ameobi said before the match, always said he was a big useless parcel of sh**e but a nice bloke at the same time; he isn’t even that any more. Shame”

    “And Shola Ameobi has now alienated himself from us Newcastle fans for sticking up for Mike Ashley,f**k you Shola,f**k you very much 😡”

    “Absolutely gobsmacked that Shola Ameobi, who on his day was comfortably the worst player i’ve ever seen in B&W, thinks we should be thankful to fatty who’s ruined the club Quit punditry now Shola kid. ”

    “Steve Harmison, Shola Ameobi, Richard Keys, Andy Gray, Adrian Durham, Simon Jordon, Talksport, Sky Sports. 30 pieces of silver for each one. ”

    ….and on and on….

    • TheFatController

      I’ve watched it, he looked uncomfortable saying it. Maybe that was just live tv nerves.

      But even Redknapp gave him opportunity to rein in, by asking if the fans really just wanted a big money signing to hang their hat on, and that that was a fair expectation given the current market.

      He didn’t take it.

      • Kneebotherm8

        I’ve watched it…….he never looked comfortable saying anything………after the game one quote,amongst many,from him about our next game at Cardiff…….”As a positive we’ll take the result today into the Cardiff game”…..I think he meant performance……comes across as a pretty thick Geordie………….polar opposite to Shearer………..Shola is the most brainless pundit I’ve ever seen…..he makes Merson look like a rocket scientist…….

      • Hughie_Gallacher

        Because he’s a blithering idiot. He should thank God football exists, otherwise who knows what would have become of him? Bank robber? He doesn’t have the brains.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          Way off the mark there. Shola is a clever lad.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        And on soccer AM Redknapp was saying how good a place st james is & he wished fatty would spend money & give it a go up here. Shows shola up even more

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      Looks like you follow as eloquent a twitteratti (sp?) as you do on here.

  • NUFC17

    He’s possibly hoping to be offered the academy coaching job if he kisses Ashley’s large buttocks enough

    • Mike

      unless Berdo gets off with his comments an sneaks back in

  • Paul Cannell

    He’s no longer the “The Mackem Slayer”
    It’s Shola the crawler..

  • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

    He’s a bright lad, Shola.