Rafa Benitez is stuck between a rock and a hard place at Newcastle United.

A club, city and fanbase that he has grown to love and wants to stay with, but an owner who so refuses to do anything to help the manager in his ambitions to fulfil NUFC’s potential.

Rafa Benitez wants proper investment in the first team squad, training complex and Academy, but in Rafa’s two and a half years at St James Park, there has been no indication that Mike Ashley has any intention of doing this.

Nevertheless, Rafa has now indicated that he will give the club’s owner one more chance.

There have now been five transfer windows during his time at Newcastle and apart from the very first one, the other four have been a case of broken promises from the owner to the manager.

January 2017 and January 2018 saw not a single player bought, whilst summers of 2017 and 2018 saw a small net outlay on players.

The perception/belief of supporters is that Mike Ashley was ok with money being spent in the very first (summer 2016) window, as he was desperate to get back to Premier League revenues and especially the worldwide TV exposure for his retail empire. After that, he simply wants to see the club try and stay in the Premier League on the lowest possible net spend.

In Rafa Benitez’ time at the club, there has actually been a profit of over £30m made on transfers in and out, this at a time when every other club is spending everything they are able to, to try and progress on and off the pitch.

By now, Rafa Benitez is fully aware that he can’t believe anything that Mike Ashley says. Statements promising ‘every penny’ aren’t worth…even a penny.

This past summer saw another ‘every penny’ promise for Rafa Benitez to spend in the transfer window, only for the club to actually make a £20m+ profit on deals in and out. Newcastle one of only two PL clubs to make a profit on transfers, even the likes of Cardiff, Huddersfield and Brighton having net spends at least £50m higher than Newcastle United’s in this last transfer window.

No wonder Rafa Benitez has had no interest whatsoever so far, in tying himself to Mike Ashley for anything beyond this initial three year contract.

However, when asked yet again about his contract situation, the Newcastle manager has opened up a lot more than previously has been the case.

Rafa saying that he will wait and see what happens in the January 2019 transfer window before he makes up his mind.

So depending on what the Newcastle manager sees as being necessary at the time, Rafa Benitez will make his needs/wants known ahead of that January window, then it will be up to Mike Ashley as to whether he will change direction and start properly backing his manager.

We live in hope.

Rafa Benitez:

“All the things that have happened during the summer have to be forgotten [and concentrate on the football now].

“Then we can talk about that [new contract], maybe, in April.

“We have plenty of time to talk.

“We have to concentrate [now] on what we can have an influence on, and that is the team and preparation for games, and whatever.

“We can talk about January and what is going on, but after January…

“Have we done what we had to do or not?

Then you have more answers to your questions [about my future].

“But I think now it’s too early.”



  • Paul Patterson

    Can’t see discussions next May going well somehow.

  • ghostrider

    Rafa trying to call the shots under Ashley will not end well for anyone.
    His big mistake is in mouthing off about it.
    Why not just get on with the job and then negotiate in April if that’s the case, rather than unsettling anything as is.

    • Kenny

      Idiot
      🤡🤡

      • East Durham Mag

        Must type like Rick Wakeman on two keyboards at once. Good trick if you can do it.

        • Kneebotherm8

          A load of well deserved sht being thrown his way…..

    • Wor Lass

      Get your mum to read the article to you – that`s exactly what rafa says he`s going to do. Absolute muppet!

      • ghostrider

        My mother’s been dead for a long time. Can you recommend anyone else?

        • Wor Lass

          Maybe a random 5 year old?

          • ghostrider

            Anyone else?

          • Wor Lass

            One 5 year old should be more than enough to explain it all to you, I think.

          • ghostrider

            What?

        • cmrowley

          Sorry for your loss, take some comfort in the fact that in her passing she leaves a legacy of wisdom. Though she’s been gone for 5 years, there will be more sense coming from her than we get from you.

          • ghostrider

            A lot longer than 5 years but we can talk about it if you feel the need.

    • Ram Kishore

      This interview didn’t have anything unsettling imo.. these words are focussed mostly on telling everyone to get behind the team.. i think he’s clear about the contract talks that shouldn’t be the focus rn and it’s for April.. wdym by calling shots ghost?

      • ghostrider

        Calling the shots as in Rafa playing cryptic interviews and basically (reading between the lines) trying to force the hand of Ashley to cater for his own whim and ego.
        Rafa is using the fans to his advantage and doing it very cleverly.
        the thing is, will Ashley bite or will be have his stamp?
        Time will tell.

        • Ram Kishore

          It feels like u r stretching it a bit imo.. Whims really ? What are those whims ghost.. his interviews are a bit critical of the management at the club , i do see us lagging on many things both on and off the pitch when u compare us with teams that are not financially stronger(i am not talking about the transfers and transfer window).. training facilities, Academy and other things..
          Please don’t say u see them as fit for purpose too.
          Rafa was right about this two, u don’t have to give the reason of him not signing a contract as a reason for improving the facilities right?Investing in them right now would have generally made the club much better off right ?
          Even attractive for buyers.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    The last two sets of Accounts show no money in the bank full stop so hardly broken promises more like kept promises. When the Accounts come out in March we will know the truth. Would love it if no money in the bank then all the protests will have been false.

    • Kenny

      Idiot
      🤡

    • toonsteve

      The accounts won t be out in March. And the one thing that they ll show is that the commercial side of the business will be an epic failure compared with our competitors due to the favourable treatment of sports direct at the expense of NUFC.

    • TheFatController

      If there’s no money in the bank we are the only club to have to spend the huge tv windfall on costs that do not include assets such as playing staff and improved stadium/ training facilities.

      So if you are right, the conclusion is we are the most inefficiently run club, which proves the protesters have a case, not that they don’t.

      I hope you’re a Bishop troll and not actually lacking intelligence as your post here suggests…?

      • Toontaff

        It’s clearly been spent on wages for the A team of HippoHeed, Gray, Keys and Wise!

    • Westdentoon

      You would love it if no money in bank?
      So we can have another year of austerity under your heroic messiah?
      I’ve read some garbage off you over the months, but you are sinking pretty low now pal.
      Something tells me you are starting to panic about these protests mind! 😬

      • Kneebotherm8

        He’s on the payroll……these protests are going to affect his annual bonus……that’s why he’s clearly 💩ing himself……..phew…… I can smell him from here…..

        • Toontaff

          I thought the farmers up above West Monkseaton were muck spreading, but you’re right – the smells definitely drifting down to North Shields from the centre of Monkseaton……………

          • Kneebotherm8

            😂😂

          • Carverlier football

            That’d be odd because he’s not even there…

      • Paul Patterson

        He’s an idiot.
        If the club has no money, then there is indeed a fiddle on somewhere . .

    • Vincent Gigante

      So in essence you are saying that no one in their right mind would by the club because it’s a failing business.

  • Hughie_Gallacher

    Rafa can give the Fat Embezzler as many chances as he likes, we know it won’t make any difference.

    Ashley’s promises have the same value as Adolf Hitler’s, that is, nothing.

    • ghostrider

      And Ashley can give Rafa as much as Rafa wants and it won’t make much difference, either.

      • Westdentoon

        How do you know? This has never happened, has it?

        • ghostrider

          How about I’ll class it as my best guess scenario.
          You see I can elevel that at you and ask you how you know it would make a big difference and your answer would be….what?
          Because you can’t guarantee it would no more than I can guarantee it.

          • Westdentoon

            I’m not the one making bold statements though, am I?

          • ghostrider

            Fine. I make mine and others will make theirs.
            The simplicity of it all is, none of us hold the full on facts of 99% of any of it, so it’s a case of pick your side and do your best to speculate/best guess the potential reality.

            Mere hatred of one man by mass gain does not create facts over minority acceptance of him.

          • Westdentoon

            But we all know about your hatred of Rafa, it’s blindingly obvious.
            We all know which side you picked, long ago…

            The minority that accepts him seem unable and unwilling to accept wrong doing on any level.

          • ghostrider

            To be honest I don’t care who manages us as long as he gets the team to play football how it should be played.
            Rafa needs to learn that part and I’ll be more than happy to have him.

          • Westdentoon

            Aye? Well that goes both ways. Ashley needs to learn how to correctly run a football club & the majority of 50,000 fans would probably idolise him.

          • ghostrider

            I think he does a great job running the football club.
            It’s not the perfect running like fans demand of it in terms of wanting to keep up with the sugar daddy clubs and the gungho clubs but then again, we would be in Sunderland’s position or worse if that happened, potentially.

          • Westdentoon

            Nonsense. That is all.

      • Wor Lass

        One of your more stupid pronouncements. I keep thinking that you can`t get any dafter or more pathetically obvious but you keep proving me wrong.

        • ghostrider

          Nothing wrong with what I said.
          Remember one thing.
          We went down with the most expensive relegated squad since the start of the premier league, so nothing is guaranteed and Rafa’s name does not guarantee anything better than where we finished lasts eason even if he had 100 million to spend.

          Big money spends in the north east generally create mercenaries who don’t generally give a stuff about the well being of the club …just their contract to it.

          • Wor Lass

            And Rafa bought how many of that squad?

          • ghostrider

            That’s not the point. The point is in fans wanting Ashloey to spend and when he does it’s not enough to guarantee anything.
            That includes Rafa.
            Rafa still had 10 games to get the expensive squad to work and he failed.

          • cmrowley

            Fans want a combination of things. Looking at any one ‘want’ in isolation is not the answer.

            Fans want a good, proven Manager and reasonable investment in the team, on a time line that suits the manager (you know – the chap that has to deliver the results on the pitch).

            One without the other is pointless, giving John Carver, Alan Pardew, Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce, Fat Sham, Steve McClaren etc. a massive budget to spend is as foolish as it is pointless.

            Give a proven success such as Rafa some modicum of backing and at least a little encouragement and we’re into winner winner chicken dinner territory.

            You’re right it isn’t a guarantee, but it is as close as you can get in football.

          • ghostrider

            I would agree with you if we were talking over a decade ago.
            The major problem now is, it’s money bags competing against ultra money bags.
            It’s basically become a pointless exercise for most clubs but some of those clubs still have a belief they can catch the elites.

            Now here’s the key that not many fans like to hear.
            Newcastle United is a northe easy club and all north east clubs are ripe for the rip off from mercenaries, regardless of who manages them.

            I have absolutely no doubt that Ashley could spend 100 million, if he wanted to…and over a decade ago he might have done close to that if the Keegan fiasco hadn’t of happened.

            Take a look at what West Ham and the rest are spending and ask yourself if they are any further forward than we are.

            They don’t even own their own ground but are spending fortunes on players and handing out wages in excess of £100,000 a week to many, not the odd marquee signing.

            Imagine us doing that?
            Imagine players on 5 year contracts with big transfer fees and wages and we simply soldier on like the rest of the also-ran teams.
            The fans would be absolutely up in arms and want Ashley out…and Rafa, most likely.
            Why?
            Because it just wouldn’t be enough and Ashley would be getting called a mug for paying big money and big wages with big contracts for mercenaries.

            So how does he win?
            He wins by not doing the silly stuff.

          • cmrowley

            You havent read up on fallacies yet have you…

          • ghostrider

            No need to. Have you?

          • cmrowley

            You do have a need to though. Everything you write is a confused mismatch of fallacy and assertions. It’s distressing to me to see someone so confused and ignorant yet espouse views so confidently.

          • ghostrider

            Don’t worry about me, concentrate on yourself.

          • Guest 9

            I have read this before somewhere….now where could that be?

          • ghostrider

            FM most likely…but then again you know that.

          • cmrowley

            I suggest you go and research fallacies. You will learn a great deal about yourself and your arguments if you do so.

            I suggest the following as starting points.
            proof by assertion
            argument from ignorance
            argument from repetition
            non sequitur
            nirvana fallacy
            false attribution
            false equivalence
            moving the goal posts
            red herring

            A good starting point for you.

          • ghostrider

            Maybe you and certain others can also research it.

          • cmrowley

            ? Where is the logic there? Of course I’ve researched it. I know about it and I’m trying to share with you, to help you learn something.

            This is a genuine question, how old are you?

          • ghostrider

            What are you trying to share with me.
            I’m in my 50’s. How old are you?

          • cmrowley

            50s I ask only as you respond like a teenager.

          • ghostrider

            Then think of me as a teenager if that suits you better. I’m happy with whatever you choose.

          • cmrowley

            I’m trying to share knowledge on a subject you obviously know nothing about. Your posts are a confused miss mash of fallacy and assertion devolving into childish school ground comments.

            Sometimes, if a person is not just wilfully ignorant, they can take new information and use it to benefit, to learn from.

            Doesn’t always work though, some people revel in ignorance and stupid.

          • ghostrider

            Then don’t waste your time on me, it’ll only serve to wind you up and it won’t be good for you.
            In the meantime I’ll carry on as usual.

          • cmrowley

            OK, I’ll leave you to your ignorance and stupidity.

          • Carverlier football

            I don’t think self reflection is his forte – if it were, he’d have sought help for his anti-social personality disorder long ago…

  • Kenny

    Wasting his time, the Fat scum won’t change

    • JEz_Brizzle

      Rafa just responding to questions about his contract – I think trying to suggest some spending in January might mean he’ll sign a new contract, just so he can may be get some new blood…. but it;s just an if.

  • East Durham Mag

    Tv money and transfer profits mysteriously just vanish in an accounting slight of hand worthy of Paul Daniels. No sponsor money and replica kit profits Redirected.Com. All in all a masterclass in f*cking up a club.

    • Paul Patterson

      Like I’ve said below, there’s a fiddle on if the club has no money.

  • TheFatController

    Keep stopping SD using social media.

    The people who asked Nike why they associate with SD are hitting the right targets.

    Shareholders will be getting jumpy. Of course the apologists and Bishop drones will say it has no effect. This denies all the blocking, the suspended activity, the attempts to start activity again a few weeks later, the scripted propaganda on sky and BeIN where clearly the BBC can’t be ‘tapped up’ due to being publically owned …

    Don’t think you can’t make a difference. But don’t leave it to others, Ashley’s mugged you for 11 years, yet he’s now shown you can individually give as good as you were getting, if you do nothing you are nothing.

    • Cockneytrev

      👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • Leicester Mag

    Things will never change this is simply a clear message that Rafa will not countenance any contract talks until the last minute and only then on his terms. Will Ashley change? No chance to steal something once said of Lord Mountbatten if he swallowed a nail he’d pass a corkscrew.

    • Kneebotherm8

      Rafa needs actions,not words,from Ashley…..something that hasn’t,and will not, I fear,be forthcoming from him……….there’ll be no new contract signed…….and any,supposed,contract offer from Ashley was purely smoke and mirrors from the devious fat twt…….

    • JEz_Brizzle

      I cannot see a contract getting signed for two reasons. 1 Ashley won’t put his and in his pocket and do things differently – he’s had a string of managers who have done ok (in his view) so he probably thinks he can just pick another muppet. 2. IF Ashley does spend on transfers to try and keep Benitez, surely Benitez will see through Ashley’s thick skin that it would just be spending in one transfer window to get a contract exension, and so for the rest of the new contract, there will be no more transfer funds.
      Sorry I think Benitez goes next summer, unless a miracle sale occurs.

      • Carverlier football

        Unfortunately I think you’re right – Ashley leaving is the only way Rafa’s staying. All the more reason to keep up the pressure on him!

  • GlasgowMag

    Old Mikey boy is not having a good time at the moment is the campaign targeting his brand SD working I wonder!! His trolls are squealing away below trying to defend him and are looking more desperate by the day!!! What’s next from his general Bishop working at the ministry of Shirebrook misinformation department let’s see I’m really really really really really really going to put the club up for sale this time 🤔🤔😂😂🤣🤣

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Their starting to get nasty now his trolls & minions, a sign the screw is turning 👌🏻

  • Wezza

    Won’t happen. MA will never change.

  • Emprex

    I can see another pretend takeover to gloss over no spending in January.

    • Dingus

      “The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior”

  • Sing in the Leazes

    the uncomfortable truth is that as the stand off intensifies …
    it’s probably going to get to the stage where we all have to stop renewing our tickets.
    Rafa is leaving. Be under no illusions.
    We’ve all given Ashley the benefit of the doubt enough times to know what the outcome is .
    So next May…. when Rafa goes… we have to swallow the bitter pill and sack it off til he sells up.
    Drive the price down – empty the ground!

  • Mike

    Bye bye Rafa

  • Toontone100

    Spot on Rafa ! Over to you Cashley ….