Rafa Benitez watched on as his team lost 1-0 to a very average Augsburg outfit.

He felt the players did better than Wednesday but that wasn’t the highest of bars to set, as United lost 4-0 at Braga.

This makes it over four and a half hours since Newcastle scored a goal, with creativity and scoring goals obviously a massive issue with only a week to go before the season kicks off.

Dwight Gayle was left out of the squad with a swap deal for Salomon Rondon said to be back on, waiting until after the final pre-season friendly to bring in your new striker is anything but idea.

However, Rafa says that while it isn’t ‘ideal’, he and his coaching team simply ‘have to (make it) work.’

Newcastle fans and the vast majority of independent observers have every sympathy for Rafa Benitez after the way Mike Ashley has treated him, the manager declaring: ‘So we (Rafa and his coaching team) have won trophies everywhere and it was the idea to do something similar here….I am not happy we have to just survive every year.’

Results and performances in pre-season haven’t suggested even to ‘just survive’ will be an easy path, so the manager and supporters are desperately hoping for better news before 5pm on Thursday.

A ridiculous situation we all find ourselves in, nothing like the ideal preparation Rafa Benitez would have hoped for.

Rafa Benitez:

“I think that it was an entertaining game (against Augsburg) for the fans because both teams have chances.

“We improved from the other day because we had more control, played on the ball a bit better, still though we have to improve.

“Normally when we have had time and support (at other clubs), we deliver.

“So we (Rafa and his coaching team) have won trophies everywhere and it was the idea to do something similar here….I am not happy we have to just survive every year – but at the moment we have to see if we can improve the squad.

“I am confident we can do it (improve the squad before end of transfer window) but if you are asking me if it’s ideal…?

“I would say no, because the way I like to work is to do things early, but if we can’t do that we have to (make it) work.

“I hope we can do it.”



  • Tino11

    Here comes Ben Jones, Goatrider and The Monk to say Rafa is a disgrace for saying such things,

    Meanwhile in the real world, everyone else says, “well said Rafa!”

    • ghostrider

      He simply needs to stop moaning and do what he’s paid to do.

      • GlasgowMag

        Well said o so wise chuckle brother 1 employee of the fat one, your still a funny guy!!!😂😂😭😭

        • ghostrider

          Goodfella’s.

          • Chuck D

            Aye you’d be Henry the rat

          • Gallowgate Frost

            Ha

      • Tino11

        He’s paid to manage the football club

        He’s paid to improve the squad

        He’s paid to come up with a list of transfer targets to improve that squad

        He’s paid to come up with that list as early as possible so the deals can be done quickly so the players can then be integrated in to the squad as soon as possible

        He’s paid to give his opinion on how the squad is geared up to cope with the coming season

        He’s paid to be honest if things about the squad are not up to scratch

        He’s paid to offer advice on how to get that squad up to scratch

        He’s paid to connect the squad with the fans in an honest manner

        • ghostrider

          He’s paid to manage and coach his team ands to get on with it.

          • Tino11

            That’s the best you can come up with? Your knowledge of how football works is even worse than I thought.

          • ghostrider

            Try not to worry about it.

      • Angelswithdirtyfaces

        Just like you’re doing on here. Hope the pieces of silver are worth it.

      • workid

        I cannot begin to understand this opinion. I used to work as a joiner for a company that had this ‘do as your told’ view. Now I work for a multinational where I’m encouraged to question my boss if I think he’s wrong, because they trust I know my job and they value my input. How backward can you be to think a bloke who sells Donnay socks might know better than a Champions League winner?

        • ghostrider

          When Rafa buys his players from his own pocket and runs his own club, he can do what he wants to.
          When he’s paid to manage and coach a football team, he needs tio get on with it and stop moaning all the time.

          • TheFatController

            When Ashley buys his players from his own pocket and runs his own club properly, he can do what he wants.

            Til then I’ll have to hope for a buyer or fatality.

            Sorry, but I’m beyond being decent about the guy. He peddles misery and will be missed about as much as Scrooge was… I’d not be thinking about him or his family beyond a cursory decency but I’ll admit I’d be thinking of the possible severing of the ties to him more. That’s just human nature.

          • ghostrider

            No need to apologise to me about how you think of Ashley.
            He runs Newcastle United and you peddle your own misery over the obsession with the hatred of him.
            That’s entirely your choice.

          • TheFatController

            He’ll die before me, I suspect. That’s one thing that makes me think I’ll see the back of him one day…

            I wasn’t saying sorry to you, why would !? You’re such a narcissist. I was apologising to anyone reading it offended I see death as the likeliest option for him leaving our lives. Nothing whilst he’s alive seems to phase him out of ownership. So what other route do I have to getting him out of my life ?

          • ghostrider

            When your Newcastle United supporting experience brings you down to this, I would suggest you try something a little less stressful for yourself.
            Or you could try focusing on the team on the pitch and have a moan if they don’t perform or big them up if they do.
            That’s all you really need to worry about.

          • toonsteve

            You re a simpleton.

          • ghostrider

            Chuckles.

          • workid

            What is the logic in that? The manager can reasonably expect funds to be provided by their higher ups (especially when those higher ups have gone on TV and promised that).

            I’ll play your game though, so let’s see NUFC as a business. So standard business procedure is to bring in a top class business manager then give them no funds to run the business? Err, NO.

            Do you think the board of Apple or Google or any other successful business turns round to their CEO an says ‘oh, we can’t provide you with investment funds, you’ll have to sell off some company assets before we expand’.

            You’re a lunatic mate

          • ghostrider

            Benitez got and is getting funds. If he’d signed his extension he might have got a bit more.
            No owner is their right mind is going to fully aid a manager who appears to want to see out his final year in order to avoid paying up his contractual agreement.
            Like it or not, Rafa took a long time to negotiate his contract with the club and if it was breached he could walk and claim. He’s not doing it.
            That should tell you all you need to know.

          • workid

            You’re dead wrong. Fair enough, managers sticking about for a short time is an issue for overall strategy. That’s why you have a decent footballing infrastructure in place for the long term. Chelsea managed to sign Jorginho for 57m before Sarri came in, because they are a PROFESSIONAL club with a proper director of football.

            We don’t even have a director of football. We have one board member, our chairman who is THE single lowest paid executive in the league. And he’s still overpaid.

            So what’s your excuse for that? Why don’t we have a decent board or director of football?

          • Ben Jones

            Like you’d be happy with whoever Ashley put on the board…what are they gonna do with their time/for their paypacket?

            Would rafa want a director of football?

          • nevfur

            Rafa should be director of football

          • workid

            No, director of football should be separate from the manager. They’re long term. The whole point of a director of football is that they can dictate a long term plan despite managers coming and going.

            There’s nowt wrong with a director of football if it’s a decent one. Every other club in the league has one

          • Ben Jones

            Have they become fashionable again? I remember they were tried in the past but the model never really worked in England, not really took much notice, maybe it’s different now with more foreign coaches used to it

          • workid

            I’d be happy with a director of football that wasn’t Dennis Wise. I’d honestly love to understand your perspective. Ghostrider is saying funds aren’t released to the manager because he might leave. That’s an issue for every club and it’s the reason 19 clubs in this league have a director of football. If the reason funds aren’t released is because of what ghostrider says, why aren’t we taking steps to mitigate that so we can GROW as a football club? Rafa had a director of football at MAdrid and Napoli so I’m sure he’d play ball at Newcastle

          • Ben Jones

            We can all only speculate but I doubt anyone would argue we don’t have funds, assuming it’s a wheel and deal window and with seemingly no investing elsewhere that leads me to believe it’s an exit strategy for Ashley & rafas contract is someone else’s issue or, given the swell of even more funds throughout this season, gives Ashley the ability, should he wish, to match Rafa’s ambitions on the renewed contract negotiations, I think we will be comfortable with a few more bodies

          • toonsteve

            Why is Charnley incapabe of explaing the strategy to the public. Is he incapable of conducting a TV interview?

          • ghostrider

            Simple answer to your query is, Ashley doesn’t trust too many people because too many people have not done the job they were paid to do, sufficiently for him to trust.
            That’s my guess.
            It doesn’t matter whether we like it or not. It is what it is.

            But answer me this.
            Our club runs. It might not be a champions league club or a title chasing club…but it runs.
            The only difference between the running of our club and the running of many others is in who hates their owners more than the other and who can do the biggest moans about transfer fees than the other.
            Then, who can be the happiest first for a short while until frustration kicks in.

            It’s just a waiting game…and guess what?
            All the elite clubs play it.
            Look at Arsenal fans.
            Look at Man Utd fans.

            They get big money signings but it’s just never enough.
            The same goes for us.

            We could spend 50 million on a player and if that player is not a Neymar/Ronaldo type special, we’ve wasted money and are playing with the club’s future buying in mercenaries.
            That’s how it works but it will be denied easily because we don’t sign 50 million players.

            Am I going a bit overboard?
            Maybe, but the reality is we have an owner who has little trust in people but knows his business.

            People fail to realise that we have a football team that won the championship and finished 10th in the premier league.
            It doesn’t matter how people want to dress it down now. That’s what we had and basically have, with additions like any team does in the transfer market.
            The issue now is, we are deemed relegation fodder because Ashley didn’t pander to a manager who wants to play silly ego games.

            He wants Ashley to release funds before he signs. Can you believe that?
            He’s watching players come in and other targets in the pipeline but somehow he wants funds before he commits.
            Why?
            Bigger players?
            More expensive players?
            Ready made big wage players that need little tuning?

            Many people are moaning but when asked why they are, they just use Ashley’s treatment of Rafa as the reason and why funds won’t be released for Rafa’s number 1 targets.
            When I ask what the number 1 targets are….nobody knows.

            Odd that isn’t it?

          • toonsteve

            WHy is the CEO silent. In any other organisation he d be explaining the strategy to the public.

          • ghostrider

            What strategy?
            Why the need to explain anything?
            Nothing they say will be believed unless Rafa says it.

            I don’t blame them one bit for staying put and tight lipped.
            They’re buying players for Rafa and he has a choice to coach and manage…or not.

          • Martin Rooney

            Unfortunately both at wouldn’t be the case the public professions of ‘get every penny’ become contractual so we can therefore assume he is getting every penny. If not he is able to walk and get compen.
            I guess the agents and clubs are asking for more than all those pennies than the club has got so he can’t get all of the four he still wants at least not until its time for one side of the negotiators to blink.

            Rafa like everyone at the club is making mistakes and a £70grand a week near 33 year old Rondon is probably going to be something we give Ashley grief for when Rafa has been long gone.

          • ghostrider

            Salomen Rondon is near 29.
            If we get him we have to hope his focus is legitimate for us…and if so, I think he could be useful.

          • Ben Jones

            Yeah i think Martin was fast forwarding 4 years in a scenario where rafa is long gone and Ashley is still at the club, who have an aging Rondon no longer doing the business picking up 70k a week…..
            we all know who’s fault it’ll be

          • Ram Kishore

            U r saying that he should behave like someone without any voice..
            That is a bit harsh man..

      • ZinUru

        Your logic is flawed, would you like to paint a wall with a toothbrush?

        • ghostrider

          Rafa isn’t paining a wall with a toothbrush. He’s been given players to coach and manage.
          And do they’re not sub standard.

          • toonsteve

            Isn t it time charnley did his jib. Why dies the CEO not present the company view?

          • ghostrider

            Did Charnley bring in Rafa?
            When we know what goes on behind the scenes as a fly on the wall, then we can understand it.
            In the meantime all we can do is speculate and argue who’s nice and who’s nasty and who’ll talk and who won’t and why they will and why they won’t…..etc.

            Fans wants communication only if it’s bad. They do not want to hear anything that remotely appears like it’s championing something good for the club or laying cards on a table.
            Why?
            Because it’s deemed LIES LIES LIES.

            Only badness will be deemed truth’s.
            Only media digs at Ashley/Charnley and mediocre transfer speculations will be deemed truth’s.

            Any dig at Rafa or any reasoning as to why there is some good from the club…is Ashley’s puppet journalists pushing it.

      • TheFatController

        Whoop, Toastgrinder is mentally ill again.

    • Leazes.

      They’ll keep on saying it if you keep inviting the pair of then to do so….. so don’t.

    • Milburn_Taylor

      they are not very bright, they may as well put a heading on their posts
      I am a troll

      • Leazes.

        It sort of stands out regardless of the name they attach to the post.

    • Ron

      Totally agree, needed saying. However it also sounded like handing in his resignation and giving around 9 months notice.

      • Kneebotherm8

        Yes that’s for sure

  • Burt Humperdink

    One thing I will say is that it is such a relief to get these comments on here. Trying to read even the simplest of quotes on the chronicle is like trying dentistry done without anaesthetic Bloody pop ups every five seconds, how do they stay in business?

    • Toon River

      The chronicle site is horrific, all they do is copy and paste from other sites or recycle the same article day after day. It’s absolutely garbage

      • Foggy

        I think they half a dozen “reporters” doing the job that John Gibson used to do by himself. He was ten times better than the clowns they have these days writing a load of drivel masked by technology. Meaningless Blogs FFS.

    • Tino11

      Use Adblock plus or uBlock origin, gets rid of pop ups, adverts, the lot.

      • Ken

        pity they didn`t have one for trolls

  • Leicester Mag

    Newcastle the football equivalent of jenga the fat bar steward pulling another piece of the fabric of the club away year on year.

  • Mrkgw

    Well said Rafa and for sticking to your princliples.

    Unlike some predecessors, he isn’t being bullied into silence. Credit to him for that.

  • Toon River

    I think he’s trying to talk himself into being sacked, he won’t walk because it’ll cost him to do so. Ashley won’t sack him because he wont want to pay up his contract, and Rafa won’t quit because he doesn’t want to lose money. It’s going to be like this for the next year unfortunately.

    • Milburn_Taylor

      what he is doing is laying it on the line & rightly so

      • Kneebotherm8

        He has the same aspirations as the fans for our football club………..unfortunately the owner doesn’t share those aspirations…

        • Milburn_Taylor

          he never will

          • Kneebotherm8

            You’re right………we know his aspirations end at survival with the lowest possible outlay……….we’ve seen it all throughout his ownership…..year after year…..

          • Milburn_Taylor

            we lose Rafa next year and it`s back to square one

          • Kneebotherm8

            Yup……and we are losing him………Ashley is constructively dismissing him…….there’s no doubt about that…..he doesn’t want him at the club……..he wants a yes man manager along the lines of Pardew….

    • Mrkgw

      Thought crossed my mind and that’s worst case for him. On the other hand, he will be hoping that it spurs the regime into purchasing players.

    • Leazes.

      Gallowgate flags are bringing out a new offering….. a white flag of surrender.
      Another season thrown away before it had begun.

      • FatParosite

        They brought that one out towards the end of last season….. Any flags paraded in the ground have to have Ashley seal of approval…. No more opposition to Kim Jong Il

    • Desree

      Rafa will not have to pay a thing. He just won’t get his contract paid out if he walks.
      If you quit your job are you then legally obliged to repay your last years salary?

      • Toon River

        His clause is still active that if he quits before the end of the 3 year deal he would have to pay the club 6 million. So he’ll definitely not quit. It’s money that’s keeping him here, he was probably hoping some club would buy it out in the summer but nobody wanted him or had better managers lined up

        • TheFatController

          How do you know no-one wanted him or had better managers lined up?

          Managers are sources months in advance of their unveiling. They may have approached Rafa months ago and out of loyalty and hope he didn’t want to break his contract, something he prides himself on never having done.

          You’ll have to provide evidence no club considered him, otherwise you’re clueless on that bold assertion aren’t you ….

          • Toon River

            Of course nobody wanted him or they would have paid his release clause. I think people love the romantic idea of a manager being loyal, but it’s a job, and a job that he clearly isn’t enjoying. If anyone else had made a concrete offer he would have left. No doubt about it.

  • Bowlsey

    We love you Rafa, but things are not going to get any better for us as long as Ashley owns us. We all know it, and if you didn’t know it before coming here more than two years ago you surely do now. See us through this season, come what may, and then walk with your head held high, because you did nothing but your best for us under extremely difficult circumstances. I believe Keegan once said that Newcastle United will not be going anywhere as long as Mike Ashley owns the club. Very sad, but also very true.

    • Jimmy_toons

      That was when? And how things have changed ….🤥

      • Desree

        10 years ago in September

        • Bowlsey

          Blimey, it was as well…That’s depressing…

  • Damon Horner

    It’s all communication as is often the case with this regime. If the club need to tighten the finances, tell Rafa the truth and outline the strategy and listen to the counter points. If Rafa is not reasonable get Charnley to go on public record to get an overview then reassess. Rafa talks like somebody who doesn’t know what’s going to happen in three weeks never mind three years.

    • Ken

      it has nothing to do with finances, it is Ashley and his power games,
      for instance, would any other club employ Lee Charnley as a managing director.

      • Damon Horner

        Completely, all part of the larger point really that he isn’t taking running this club as seriously as he should be. If he did I don’t think things would seem half as negative with Rafa.

      • Kneebotherm8

        Would any other self respecting managing director allow themselves to be employed by Ashley?

        • Ken

          no

    • ZinUru

      There is no club, its owned and ran by a bloke from london with no idea at all about football, the yes man at St James does nothing but say yes to Mike. Come on its obvious, just look who was on the board!

    • Martin Rooney

      He does and given that many European media are saying that Rafa is doing the calling to players and clubs directors, it seems we’re not really getting the truth from Rafa and getting not all from the club.

      To be honest if Rafa is of the thinking that Rondon is the answer and that the club should have just paid his £16m buy out then I’m glad they have stalled.
      Any one else thinking Rondons gona make a difference against the defences of spurs man city Chelsea in the first couple of weeks of the season, if at any point.
      And if WBA HF ave always wanted Gayle then what chance did charnley have of getting him as Rafa didn’t want him to go at first?

      • Chuck D

        Idiot, Rafa will speak with players, agents etc.

        It’s left with Charnley to negotiate the transfer, with Ashley having the final say.

        In terms of Rondon, he would have been way down the list. That’s the best you’re gonna get with the budget he’s been given, so blame your obese Messiah.

        Rafa isn’t daft so Gayle was going nowhere until we brought someone else in.

  • BanJones

    Lee Charnley is doing a magnificent job for the peanuts Mike pays him, he even ties his own shoelaces these days, it’s only sensible to operate a historic club with a talentless goon in charge saving all those costly wages you would have to pay a proper pro, well done Mike. You taste lovely.

    • workid

      I don’t know if your comment was tongue in cheek, but Charnley is actually the lowest paid chairman in the league. The average salary is £1.5m and he (only) makes £150k. You know what they say about paying peanuts

      • SuperDesHamilton

        Wasn’t only the Burton chairman paid less than him in the top 2 divisions last season

        • workid

          Not sure, wouldn’t surprise me like! I don’t get the hate for Charnley tbh. The bloke’s obviously out of his depth and shouldn’t be in the role he’s in. I’ve got respect for him for turning down his bonus last year too.

          End of the day, the bloke’s a puppet and he knows it. He’ll have zero input into running the club. He’s got no contacts, no knowledge of football and get’s paid a relative pittance.

          To think he’s the nearest thing the club has to a director of football. The same role Viera had at City and Zidane occupies at Juve!

          I’ve got no anomosity towards him myself, he’s got an impossible job. All he is is a shield for the real problem – Ashley. I despair every time people focus their hate on him when in fact he’s doing the best he can – out of his depth with his hands tied firmly behind his back. Ashley is the real enemy, not his stooge

          • Kneebotherm8

            Couldn’t agree more……. he’s the Monkey……Mike’s the Organ grinder……..that explains why he’s paid peanuts……

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Isn’t it Pavel Nedved who’s DOF at Juventus

          • workid

            Aye you’re right, apparently Zidane is a director there now. Point still stands though, I’m sure Nedved knows more about the game than Charnley!

          • SuperDesHamilton

            A reckon the paper Charnley writes on knows more about football than him!

    • Ron

      Nice one, but not accurate – he wears slip-ons!

  • joe mac

    seriously…..just play ya team raffa,,,,get us relagated,,,,let the fat c*nt take it…see ya contract out walk away….tell ya story.. like keegan said….you cant work with these people….just everybody remember what llambias said….quote….you dont know how fuc*ing horrible we can be!!….well….i think we can!!…

  • Billmag

    Bet Rafa can’t believe how unprofessional this club is run there’s no communication between the owner and manager, the only go-between is a little pip squeak office boy. Whenever we are negotiating a deal is Barnes there looking over the office boys shoulder god help us when Rafa goes.

  • Jimmy_toons

    Bournemouth about to splash out £25 on Colombian midfielder.
    Message to the FCB, spend some of the money that we as supporters and tv subscribers have put into the club, or get out of our club.

  • lupa

    Not really disappointed
    Just feel angry 50+ years supporting a club who’s main ambitions now are so loe

  • workid

    Honestly I’m passed the point of wanting him to stay now. I Love the bloke and feel so sorry for him I just want him to be happy. Obviously I’d love him to stay with the backing of Ashley, but that ain’t gonna happen and it guts me to see someone who obviously loves football, loves this city and loves us fans have to put up with this nonsense.

    He’ll be gone next year and I’ll be happy for him, because he deserves so much more than what this husk of a football club has to offer him. He knows what we need. He isn’t demanding a massive transfer largesse, he wants a reasonable warchest, but – more importantly – money put into the traing ground and under 23s

    I can’t believe Ashley f*cked this up. To have a genuine world class manager come here after McLaren then stick with us in the second division! It was unbelievable for a few months. My only hope is that there’s a takeover this season, but failing that, best wishes to him, cos he’s off.

    He deserves so much better than what this football club (read: Sports Direct Billboard) has to offer him and whichever club he ends up at I’ll follow.

    • Kneebotherm8

      Well said…

    • Squintytoonarmy

      Spot on – where’s the trolls or planks to diss this comment

    • FatParosite

      You will have a takeover don’t you worry… However it will be the same phantom one that was delivered last time to sedate the fans and gullible media… Eat your slop and be happy…

    • David2211

      Best comment I’ve read on here. Benitez is far too good for this sh*t show.

    • Ron

      Bang on!

    • Shields Mag

      Agree 100 per cent….

  • Stephen Paylor

    Comparing the Liverpool starting 11 and subs today to ours is incredible we play in the same league. Maybe we wont soon.

    • workid

      This is what upsets me. Talkers now gauge us against Wolves, Brighton and Fulham. 10 years ago, when HE took over, we were compared to the Chelseas, Spurs and Liverpools. It’s pathetic expectations have dropped so low we’re compared to those clubs, let alone we can’t compete with them!

      • Danimal

        Clarko will explain it for you. Basically, in 2007, living in the northeast suddenly became a repulsive idea to professional footballers, as opposed to the midlands, north west, south, south east, east or selected parts of Wales. Once this unexpected phenomenon occurred, what could “Mike” do?

        • workid

          Clarko tells me we should be glad to have won two titles though XD

        • Bowlsey

          lol! You mean this was actually proffered as an explanation for our decline under Ashley?! You couldn’t f*****g make it up…

          • Danimal

            Clarko trots this “explanation” out regularly.

        • Martin Rooney

          Of course its not the sole reason for our difficulties but everyone knows Rafa doesn’t even live here so it begs the question why a player thinks he should.
          Of course some people think on of the reasons Keegan got such a strop on at the end of august 2008 was that life became very difficult for him living Glasgow and getting pulled over on august 12th meaning a very difficult journey home most nights.
          If the god doesn’t think we’re good enough to live amongst what chance does the cockney have of convincing anyone

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Woah, KK was banned for speeding. By that time he was living in Cheshire.

          • Martin Rooney

            I stand corrected some hazy memory there apologies Kev, speeding it was, however I’m pretty sure he was living in Glasgow still doing some work at the soccer centre

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Yes, soccer circus, not his best idea, it went bust.

      • Martin Rooney

        Sixty years ago Newcastle fans aspired to be like wolves

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        The season before he took over we finished 10 places below Liverpool, 11 behind Chelsea.

        We also finished below Bolton, Portsmouth, Reading, Blackburn, Villa, boro.

        We also ran out of money.

        Rewriting history will not make your argument any stringer.

    • Danimal

      We were finishing above them in the same league on a fairly regular basis until Fatty intervened.

      • Martin Rooney

        Check that again six times from 93 -07 during which they took home 10 trophies

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Really? We finished the 2007 season well below where we finished last after a relegation scrap.

        We’d also seriously run out of money.

    • Superdooperhooper

      You’ve contributed articles for the mag so I’m guessing you’ve got jensen’s email . Can you tell him that genuine fans are being driven away by morons like ghostrider superdes Ben Jones and clarko?

      • Ben Jones

        Ahhhh the final throw of the dice, a concerted effort to get certain posters removed who’s opinions aren’t accepted by the *checks notes* ‘regulars’. Is this it Super? The last stand? Is it a cowardly us or them scenario? Or are you to weak to risk it all?

      • Tweed Mag

        There are a number of pessimists who revel in causing argument and contradiction. They motivate the rest of us to keep going to force change for the better. Their posts rarely contain anything constructive, sometimes they resort to insults and are generally amusing in content. Take pity on them and tolerate their ramblings. It is only a matter of time before they retreat to Shirebrook with their leader. They are not fans of the club, just sad outsiders.

        • Monkseaton Magpies

          Not real fans. If anyone on here has been to more matches than me on here will gladly buy them a pint.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Me, lamdmark liar

          • Tweed Mag

            Please post the total matches you have attended, then add the pub you would like to meet all those who you will owe a pint. Perhaps warn the pub beforehand for the increase in trade.
            PS will the pub be in Newcastle?

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Can you seriously not cope with people with a different view to yourself?

        If it’s too much for you, just block me and anyone else you disagree with.

        If you don’t take in other viewpoints you become ignorant and narrow-minded. It’s quite simple, be like Leazes’ or fat Jezza. They live in a bubble of sycophants.

        The Mag, in its paper format was the independent voice. It’s had its moments where that slogan could be challenged in its reluctance to publish articles that go against the grain. Banning independent voices is not the way.

        I disagree with a lot of people, I really dislike the views of Leazes’ l, Fat Jezza etc. The stupidity of Wezza, Fireman Sam and Mmm annoy me but I’d never ask for those dimwits to he banned.

        • TheFatController

          How could they be sycophants ? Is there a hierarchy on here no one told us about that gives power to a certain few that lesser posters could seek to gain advantage over by being overly servile ?

          Bizarre analysis of what goes on on here, plus wrong use of the word.

          Well done.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I know there is not but look at the Jezza and Leazes’ posts, they ask there followers to block those they disagree with. They have created a set of lies to re-enforce this idea of that there is a them & us group and only following there lead of blocking can they continue to misinform.

            Without being too rude, there are the simple if mind who follow their leader like diciples to the word of fat Jezza and Leazes’.

          • TheFatController

            I think reality is a lot more simple. They hate the way Ashley runs the club, that unifies them.

            Nobody has been ‘brainwashed’ into hating Ashley. He’s loathsome, a poor owner and has a poor reputation for everything he does in business that involves the chance to exploit loyalty or those financially in need in a recession.

            That some defend him says everything about their morals or mental state, it’s not difficult to judge Ashley on his business practices yet they get it spectacularly wrong.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            No, some defend things where folk are peddling daft opinions or lies.

        • Superdooperhooper

          Not asking for anyone to be banned just sensible limits on the number of posts per thread and words per post. I had to block ghostrider because he was dominating conversations with his long winded drivel. As for the other 3 they’re childish idiots who just call people names

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            The other three? Wezza etc?

          • Superdooperhooper

            No superdes Ben Jones and clarko. All got the same MO nitpicking people’s grammar and calling people childish names. Almost like they’re the same person with 3 different ID’s. Multiple accounts something else that needs knocking on the head

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I’d agree that just the one account per person but Ben Jones is very different to Clarko

          • Ben Jones

            Ok. If 3 people are actually 1 and you want a restriction on multiple accounts which of the 3 accounts would you like to remain and why?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            You mean @Kev Newcastle England I think he’s one of Leazes’ special groomed boys

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Look at our comments & up votes then tell me who’s the fake, you little grass

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I think ghost rider is mental and don’t agree with his views but that’s the whole point, it’d be boring if everyone had the same view

            Basically hooper wants anyone who doesn’t agree with with him & his friends blocked. Geordie gestapo in full affect

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Exactly, it would be very dull if everyone shouted Ashley must go, he’s pocketing the TV money etc etc.

            I don’t disagree that a new owner would, on balance, be favourable but I’m always weary. I’d not be surprised if the new owner would have us paying £8m out in interest each year, £5m more in director’s remuneration etc. It may well feel more exciting but the substance may not be as palatable.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Why are they been driven away it’s not just a site for hating the club. We finished tenth last season, will have at least six new players maybe eight. The season has not even kicked off and all the Mag does is put the boot in. You would think they supported other teams they are so anti Newcastle.

        • Superdooperhooper

          People like nutjob peaky and MMM have all jumped ship and I for one think this site is a poorer place for it. Didn’t always agree with them but they were capable of banter and a joke rather than a obsession with accounts

      • SuperDesHamilton

        You mean people with opinions you don’t agree with?

        You little grass

  • Dave Pattinson

    Really can’t understand how & why everyones acting like a set of old virgin aunties seeing a flasher for the first time. Ashley pulls the same trick every flaming season so no-one should be surprised any more. Until we do something extreme he’ll continue to pee all over us Mags. This clubs had its soul sucked out of it. We should be looking forward confidently to a new season of challenges and achievements. Instead our aim is to stay out of the bottom 3. Truly, a dangerous game. Ask the Mackems. We deserve better than this pathetic owner.

    • Leazes.

      Rafa is new and he knows the score after only 4 transfer windows (probably knew after 2) ….. the chronicle boys have has 23 windows and don’t….

      It can’t be stupidity…..I guess that some people like to spin and keep the club in this state.

      • Danimal

        To be fair to the chronic, I did smile at their comment about Ed Sheeran being seen at SJP more often than Ashley in the last 15 months.

        • Leazes.

          They won’t fall off their fence….they’ve been nailed onto it like a dead parrot.

    • Bowlsey

      Like I posted elsewhere, I actually had hope for a few days that Ashley would back the first world class manager that this club has had since Sir Bobby, in this window. Then I was rudely reminded that Mr Ashley doesn’t give two f***s about the club, and gives even less of a f**k about the fans and what we think. Rafa can at least look on the bright side, I mean at least at his next club, wherever that may be, he won’t have to work with a c**t like Ashley! As for what happens to us when Rafa walks…well, best not think about that eh?

  • BanJones

    What does Rafa know about football? He should have some humility and listen to Mike he knew that we would finish 10th last season and that even if we get relegated again we’ll just bounce back again , it happened before so that just proves it will happen next time, it’s obviously a good idea to give one of the best mechanics in the world a toolkit from the middle aisle at Lidl.. Am I mummy or Daddy tonight Mike?

    • workid

      I honestly think he’s punishing us from when we sang ‘fat cockney b**tard’ when he was at the match with his daughter. Spite is the only thing that explains his actions. I know people say he’s doing what he does because of ‘good business principles’ blah, blah blah… but the serial under-investment and subsequent relegations have cost this club 9 figure sums. He knows a modest investment would secure us in the premier league and he won’t even supply that. I honestly believe he’s punishing us.

      • Bowlsey

        I do too actually. I think it started back during the fallout after the utter fiasco that Keegan’s return became. He wasn’t prepared for the backlash he got from the fans and hated us for it. The irony is that it was all his own fault and could have been completely avoided. The fact he thought that he could treat a Toon legend like a piece of s**t on his shoe and not upset the fans speaks volumes about the arrogance of the man.

        • workid

          Aye exactly that mate. He was a self made billionaire with a new toy and thought he could call all the shots before his fingers got burnt. Problem was, being cut throat with your staff in SD is a different game – you’re not going to get 50000 calling you a fat B****tard for sacking the an SD director.

          The saddest thing really is when you think what could have been. For a short time we had an owner who sat in the stands among our own then went down the bigg market and bought pints for everyone in the bar.

          It’s sad to think how different things could have been

          • Bowlsey

            I know. He clearly had interest in us and apparently had a desire to be liked and accepted by the fans and then…he just went and f****d it up and threw all that good feeling out the window by his own actions! A psychologist could no doubt make a career out of studying the man’s mindset and what makes him tick, but I gave up trying to figure him out years ago.

          • Chuck D

            This is his psyche, I’ve had it on good account from someone that had business dealings with him that he hates the fans.

            He is a very vengeful person, just look at how he went after Dave Whelan after he embarrassed Ashley at a meeting over fixing England shirt prices.

            This is why he is so stubborn with Rafa, he hates being dictated to.

            He looks to employ people from a weak position e.g. Pardew, McClaren, Carver and Charnley. This way he can have greater control.

            The other thing is that he loves creating conflict, even within SD.

            I can only imagine he was bullied for being the fat kid at school who was sh*te at sport!

          • gold coast mag

            That was my initial impression of him- in a club shirt punching down pints with the lads- it didn’t take long for that image to go-guess he would’t go out now without half a dozen minders, and not north of Watford

        • Down Under Mag

          I was at the Arsenal game where he was lappin gup the attention he was getting, in with the away fans, them singing his name. He then made a monumental cockup and was villified for it, rightly so but there were a few that went way too far with it (as per usual) and I don’t think he has ever forgiven us.

          I think from that moment on he was content to make money off the club and get his name in the papers (positive or negative publicity it didn’t matter, as long as he got some publicity) and the football side of things was never going to be his concern, any money spent would be to protect his investment and make him continue earning more money. He’s set us up to be able to manage through a relegation and still be able to survive, made sure he can justify his own personal cut every time we go down and never cough up a penny when he doesn’t have to.

          Rafa has served a purpose in getting his investment back to the big time cash train and now he has over stayed his welcome as far as Ashley is concerned because he wants to spend money that isn’t needed to “just survive” and he is popular with the fans so by default Ashley want him to fail. It is all down to spite and I cannot see anything changing until the club stop being profitable for him.

  • nufcslf

    F**k the fat c**t and walk. He doesn’t deserve any explanation on the sh*t way he has run Newcastle United Football Club into the ground to create Sports Direct United. Total [email protected] and nothing else. See how it’s all going after the tough start to the season leaves this pathetic excuse for a football club botton and well on track for relegation. Joke.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      Aren’t you supposed to be me? We seem to have rather differing views on this.

  • JungleJoe

    I reckon an F.A investigation is long overdue at Newcastle United. Where are the hundreds of millions going? If i’m correct and i think i am NUFC got 120 million pounds last year from the Premier League tv deal. We’ve made approximately 40 million in player sales during this Transfer window and spent approximately 18 million on replacements. By my reckoning that’s 142 million pounds generated by the club. Not to mention merchandise, tickets and advertising revenue.
    WHERE IS THE MONEY?

    • Mrkgw

      Quite right, where has it gone? And yet, the silence from the club is deafening. Never an explanation for anything. They are happy to take our money when it suits and yet, show nothing but contempt in return.

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Don’t be silly.

        There is no silence, the club are obliged to publish the accounts by March. No other business publishes it’s bank accounts.

        • Mrkgw

          Problem is the fact thst cash has been generated from the sales of Mitro, Mbemba, Merino, Sels and most latterly, Armstrong. Quite a sizeable sum despite the possibility that it will be paid in installments. Rafa bemoans the lack of transfer activity – quite righty. Meanwhile, Bournemouth as one example are set to complete purchase of a player for £25m. Ashley has not spent anywhere near that amount during his time at the club. Whilst big signings don’t guarantee success, they help lift the side and supporters. Compare this grim and equally grey decade of all things NUFC related, with the rollercoaster of the 90’s whence one frequently glanced at the back pages of tabloids to see our making marquee signings. It was exciting and generated interest. Under Ashley, it’s just plain drab. Awful in fact. We really do need his tenure to end as things won’t change. 100%. I previously gave him chance after chance until about 18mths ago, at which point I decided that enough was enough, he had tortured us all long enough. And each day seems to get worse. He revels in it – that much us obvious. When in truth, had he approached the whole situation differently, supporters would have warmed to him. Pure idiocy on his part and, such a wasted opportunity. And for that, we need him to go.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            We do need a change, I agree.

            The issue is that there needs to be a buyer, he can’t just ‘go’.

            The club is being readied for sale imho. He’s raising the cash balances and assets. We’ll stay up ok and we’ll see a bidder in November.

          • Mrkgw

            Hope that you’re right on all fronts. Onwards and upwards eh.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I’m right to say it’s ready for sale, as for a buyer, that’s just a guess.

          • Mrkgw

            Yes, that’s fair enough. We will see. Surely, there is someone out there with the means to take the club to a greater level. Time will tell.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            If a new buyer cans settle things, NUFC is a very valuable asset in that it can be profitable.

            To be profitable thought, it will operate close to where we are now, a top 10 club.

    • workid

      It’s a private business tbf so he’s got nowt to answer for legally. The relegation season figures were a sham though. If you want to look into i go to youtube and search ‘newcastle finances’ and have a look at the top result by tifo football. I’d link it, but he mag deletes it if you post links.

      It’s called : Newcastle’s Finances Under Mike Ashley 2016/17

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        The figures aren’t a sham, they happen to include a £20m provision which was included in the press release with the accounts so hardly a cover up. We lost £44m but without the provision that was £24m.

    • Martin Rooney

      Player wages

      • Chuck D

        Ha which are some of the lowest in the PL?

    • robbersdog

      NUFC is a privately owned business; what Ashley does with the income it generates is none of the FA’s business.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      It’s in the bank or in the debtors account.

    • Wezza

      In MASH Holdings or one of his other holding accounts. The trolls will say he hasn’t taken a penny out of the club but we all know that isn’t true at all. The proof has happened this summer and the sham of the creative accounts of the championship season.
      Those trolls aren’t Toon fans they aren’t Man Utd brothers who troll here daily.

    • Down Under Mag

      I just can’t see how gifting your own company free advertising is legal?? Surely it is a conflict of interest in the same way that owning two clubs is?

    • phildene

      According to what I’ve been told by a friend (and to which I most certainly do NOT agree) it’s going into the running of the place. I say Ashley’s back pocket but told the books/accounts don’t show this. As far as I’m concerned the very well paid accountant would sort that side out and does anyone think Ashkey would leave a paper trail? He’s not that daft! No Ashley’s banking our money in both holdings Mash and St James AND living off it too.

  • Mrkgw

    There’s Townsend just committed his long term future to Palace. Another that previously baled on us.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      Tbph, I’m happy with that, I know Rafa likes him but he isn’t that effective.

  • Scott Robinson

    Still interesting that this very day 1990 we were playing at Yeovil in a friendly and McKeag was there to make a presentation with Bert Millichap and the 250 travelling fans gave McKeag continual dogs abuse for lack of investment on new players and he walked later that year. We know the history just after. So never say continued protests don’t work as the humiliation eventually wears the thickest skin and granite skull.

    Lord Westwood even managed to win a trophy and a record signing-superstar (Super Mac). Mac would be worth 50 million today. Westwood and Harvey would be a dream ticket today (attacking flair) and who would have thought under John Hall or even Freddy Shepherd, that Westwood years weren’t so bad. They were brilliant compared to the Ashley years.

    Contrast Mike Ashley who is even less popular than McKeag to those of us who go back a long way. I am sick of those brainwashed in the Ashley era thinking he is good for NUFC when he is far worse than McKeag. I was outside St James park today, but not at the match. The club shop was doing fantastic business and the three new shirts were everywhere, including several Japanese; even a couple of South Koreans in full new strips with Ki Sung-yueng on the back (but abbreviated).

    How can Ashley not find foreign investment or even investment at home if he is such a ‘god’ in the business world. Has he even read the club history of NUFC? What sort of character wants to be remembered as a bigger joke than even McKeag? Those brainwashed and who praise his name need to spend a few hours reading NUFC’s history. I couldn’t imagine even 250 out of the 21,000 today would ‘protest’. They are stuck in the Ashley cult and are now so numb that they can’t even be bothered to complain when even Rafa is complaining on their behalf!

    • Martin Rooney

      Rewiring history there a bit like, one difference is Ashley doesn’t take cash out the club to line his pockets like Mckeag and Westwood did.
      Many accused Westwood of declaring low crowds so he could go home with a bag of cash. And like them the cockney lad isn’t putting any of his cash into the club. The ground was rotting away and the players were generally producing similar league positions as now.

      • Ken

        time to change your name the majority on here know you`re a
        troll & try something more imaginative instead of the same boring stuff.

        • Martin Rooney

          Ken seriously Mckeag and Westwood not good leaders of the club. Stop cat calling as you think I like the cockney. It’s easy to get shot of him, it would take a lot less energy than the whingers on here use to spill their bile.

        • Wezza

          Yep, one of the confirmed trolls. All their aliases say Ashley has never taken a penny out of the club.
          Pure trolling.

          • Ken

            blocked him and i will go through the list and block them as well

          • Tony English

            Confirmed?

            He was in my class at school…so block me as well while your at it Ken.

            Cheers.

        • Ben Jones

          Ken 4 years ago
          My Mate Moussa Mouse Said Sissoko had a storming game for France, I can only Conclude he`s been Pardewed

          You know Ken, I had a feeling you were MMM’s ‘friend’ you only reappeared when he vanished after I sussed him and soldier(also vanished) were the same person because they use ` instead of ‘ , something which you also do, which I’m sure is a coincidence, much like your consistent talk of trolls

      • Chuck D

        Not his cash is it though, that’s the common misconception!!

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          It is his cash.

          • Chuck D

            So the TV money and proceeds from player sales are paid to Mike Ashley directly?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            No, all held within the club.

            He has put His cash into the club.

      • Hughie_Gallacher

        Ashley is taking far more out of the club than McKeag and Westwood ever did. As we have all been told ad nauseum, NUFC is now just a shop front for SD in terms of free advertising. Also, the commercial side has been deliberately run down as, in reality, the owner has no interest in the club as a football club.

      • Down Under Mag

        Just because he doesn’t give himself share dividends he is still taking money out of the club. He gifts free advertising to his own company, any time he can justify it he claims he had put money in out of his own pocket which then conveniently ends up as extra debt the club owe him which he wants back if he sells and therefore can’t sell. Just because it isn’t an actual amount going into his own bank account do not for one minute sit here and tell us he isn’t doing the club out of money for his own gains. And it will be curious to see where all teh TV money and player sales money ends up because you can bet you rbottom dollar it will be in MASH holdings and who do you think benefits from that??

        • TheFatController

          The trolls love to say Ashley takes no money out, hoping everyone misses that, as you say, the extra £70m debt just gets annortised onto the profit he makes if he ever sells.

          That’s all fine, but again. As you say, Charnley tells us Mike loaned the club money. Interest free. Which is great. Until you realise he owns the club 100% so it’s his own debt.

          The trolls tell us that it’s not his, it’s ours. What I’d say to that is, if a billionaire built a new stadium, created a new club, and played in black and white and we all jumped ship to support that new club so we were all rid of Ashley and had a club in Newcastle to follow, how would it be our debt ? It’d be Mike on his own in a big stsdiium with £140m debt and no buyer – we’d simply be his old customers who went elsewhere. His debt. Not ours.

        • Martin Rooney

          You’ve replied to my previous posts where I have said the debt is largely the purchase cost to him from when he bought the club. The cost to him on buying was not the money given to hall shepherd and the other ten percent but the debt that the company he bought had.
          E.G. if the club had no debt he would have paid £220m cash.

          I also don’t understand the signage which is free to 40% shareholders of SPD from a company he owns 100% of seems like he’s missing a trick tbh. The value of that space is minimum though and will not have a major effect on operations and hoardings ate in sale if you wish to buy them

          • toonsteve

            What is your definitiin of minimal? do you reckon they would sell it in order to generate cash for the club?

          • Martin Rooney

            £1m per year tops in addition to the space given as part of other sponsorships. If you actually watch the pitch side boards at the match then you will have noticed that a lot of the time they’re promoting Puma, MF tyres, Fun88, Stelrad and at the last few games of the season I noticed a company called Wood Wire and Water advertising they’re based in Gateshead, there has also been an awful lot of chinese written adverts too witch are not funn88 so I guess theres money coming from that.
            There can be very little money would be spent from companies on getting the stand areas.

            The chronicle will do you an ad that gives 80,000 opportunities to be seen for £150-£500 as there are around 1 million attendants at JP over c20 games then with 100 ad positions would be worth an equitable £600K give a premium for some pitchside coverage then your going to find it difficult to get more than £1m per year

          • toonsteve

            What about the tunnel, traing ground and the neutral (interview zone)?

          • toonsteve

            The stadium ads feature enormously on TV during a game. are you including the tv audience, uk snd internatonal in your impressions?

          • Martin Rooney

            Don’t know would have to find out about similar clubs to ours everton spurs etc get for theirs as there is little coverage and consequently less opportunity to be seen very little, Man u ars LFC and Chelsea have their TV channels which give those training ground more.
            Everton’s it seems is sponsored by USM holdings, owned buy Arsenal major shareholder Usmanov, who’s partner in crime at Arsenal is now major owner in everton,, there is no mention of any cash going into everton of the deal since he pumped the money in to buy part of Kenwright’s shares and players. It also seems USM own the rights to all the other forms of advertising at Goodison, again without mention of money going into the club.

            The tunnel isn’t branded at many big clubs and that neutral space is available for sale for any new partners as we seen with MF tyres last year.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      He did not walk, Hall and the then Magpie group bought up tht shares in the club to take control.

      Shares were then offered to the fans to create a true democratic club but guess what? Fans refused to invest and let the club down.

      • Geordiegiants

        Our fans let us down massively, no doubt about it. John Hall though on the other hand fuckedus over no end. He could of easily let the fans that did buy keep the shares and sold more as time went on, but he like the fatcunt got greedy and sold us all down the river.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          I applied for shares but the way these things work is you can’t just issue shares piecemeal.

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      McKeag sold any player that could kick a ball, took the Leazes roof off and left us in the rain. He managed to get crowds down to seven thousand yes seven thousand so the Ashley years are a million times better. We have been outside the top league only 16% when he has been here against 25% in the clubs history. Protests will not find a buyer more likely drive them away. The season has not even started, we finish tenth, at least six new signing. The Mag is a disgrace full of militants. Westwood was asked by the league to put £12,000 in and he refused. What a good day the club put on yesterday no mention of that on here.

      • Squintytoonarmy

        We going to meet up and have a pint with Monty in Chinatown ?

      • Toon Arnie

        You truly have no understanding of reality – I thought you had sorted yourself out but here to go again.

  • Martin Rooney

    He’s just sold a young player he values at£27m and is going to buy a 29 year old he values at less than sixteen how is that improving his squad to better than survive.

    Manquillo, Murphy, atsu muto ki joselu lejuene. He could have just kept mbemba and colback as his third choices and spent £40m on a striker .

    • Tony English

      Fulham valued Mitro at £27m (undisclosed), Rafa doesn’t value him at anywhere near that, but that’s besides the point.

      He’s looking to replace players like Mitro and Mbemba with players that can fullfil the role required of them that can follow instruction to improve the team.

      He sees Muto as an improvement on Gayle, Lejeune as an improvement on Mbemba, and if signed Rondon as an improvement on Mitro.

      We know he’s correct withnonenof those three, the others we’ll see.

      • Martin Rooney

        Sorry Tony mate i guess you mean Lejuene I disagree, he’s not correct Schar is a right footed CB as was Mbemba I think we all believe Jamal’s the first choice in that position, so Rafa is spending money on agents to swap around his replacements seems a bit daft, Clarke is Lejuene’s back up.
        Given that we’re in desperate need for improvement in the striker position and have no cover at left back Rafa’s dealings/targets don’t seem to make sense.
        Gayle wasn’t mentioned as leaving NUFC until West Brom decided they wanted him so was Muto really his replacement?
        You’re right in saying we don’t know if these players will perform better, but past performance suggests in the case of Mitro, the 20 year old premier league newbie who scored 9 goals as a bit part player in a dysfunctional relegated team, I’d be surprised if 29 year old Rondon whose never reached those heights proves to be a better player than Mitro.
        As for Muto, surely if he is Gayle’s replacement then what is Rondon or as Rafa said yesterday he wants two strikers so are we going to end up with Muto Ings Rondon Perez for the top two positions. Lunacy it seems to me where going to be left with a lot of aging players on long large contracts and pretty clear the manager who buys them likely not to be at the club, it’s almost sabotage.
        That money spent and committed around £30 – £35m buys you world class players like Douglas Costa, not saying they’d come but I feel I’m being sold some duds

        • Tony English

          Alreet…lots of points raised there! I’ll break it down.

          Yes sorry that was an early morning Typo – I meant to say “Rafa sees SCHAR as an improvement on Mbemba”

          CENTREBACK: Yes Mbemba is right sided, but it’s clear Rafa had no faith in him following instruction, so he wasn’t considered a replacement, he was deadwood.

          Schar has played right side of a three at times, so we may see him in that position with Lascelles in the middle, or covering fullback, where the defensive side of Yedlin’s game is questionable. You tube his Basle game against Chelsea, his long passing is very, very good. If you believe the reported numbers, Rafa banked money on this deal.

          LEFTBACK: I agree, you would have expected cover to be bought here.

          GAYLE: His position has been questioned since promotion, yes it’s died down this summer, but it’s always been simmering away, I think he had last season to show he could do it at the top level, and came up short.

          REPLACED WITH MUTO: He’s clearly been scouted, Rafa watched him play us in pre season last year, he think’s he’s worth a chance in this league, he seems a willing worker, we’ll see.

          MITRO: “the 20 year old premier league newbie who scored 9 goals as a bit part player in a dysfunctional relegated team” – could it not be argued that part of that disfunction was his style of play? Whatever your thoughts on his ability, he is an ingredient that didn’t fit in the recipe, his lack of mobility stopped us from stretching play.

          REPLACED WITH RONDON: He’s not so much a replacement on the pitch for Mitro (as he wasn’t on Rafa’s pitch), more a squad replacement for the striker Rafa was searching for in Slimani or Joselu. Who knows, he may prove to be individually worse than Mitro, but better for the team.

          Every manager leaves players at a club, good and bad, his contract is no excuse for not investing in assets to the squad.

  • Wezza

    David and Kevin Lee, Man Utd TROLLS BLOCK LIST:

    Clarko, Fleckman, Monkseaton, ghostrider, ComeAndTakeIt1836, Mark Potter, Vodkamagpie, funlovingexpress, Nut, Jonathan Gibson, Martin Rooney, mentalman, Ben Jones, Rob Brown, 501ninedarter, your mum, Mike Adam.

    • Geordiegiants

      What about Jack Lacey Hatton? He is in a Manure top on his Facebook profile!

    • Tony English

      That’s how you start your Sunday? Blimey. Have a day off mate.

      • Wezza

        Evidently it is how THEY start their sundays off.

    • Ken

      i have the trolls trolling me saying they aren`t trolls, crazy

      • Wezza

        They’re creating new aliases in an attempt to fit in and appear normal now, only in time to put their foot in it and expose them. They’re very sad indeed.

      • Wezza

        Yeah they upvote one another, respond to one another and have conversations with their different ID’s. It’s clearly not normal behaviour! But then again, supporting Man Utd isn’t normal either!

        • Ben Jones

          It’s almost as if they’re individuals who agree on some opinions and because you don’t like their opinions you’ve decided to claim they’re all something they’re not in order to discredit them. The trouble being of course is no one believes it, and here’s the kicker, neither do you. You’re a low quality human being for even trying this [email protected]

    • Tweed Mag

      The temptation is to block them, but if we all did it then they would run out of things to do. The fear is that they would be let loose on their local community and start arguments in the street with children and old ladies.

  • Milburn_Taylor

    one of the chuckle brothers has just passed, the trolls will take time out to mourn
    RIP, Barry