Sky Sports haven’t done the Newcastle United cause much good when it comes to the battle between the fans and Mike Ashley.

Regularly giving a platform to the odious Dennis Wise and others, all prepared to make outlandish claims on behalf of/in support of the Newcastle United owner.

What they say is invariably based on fake facts, or at times, blatant lies as to what the true situation is.

However, occasionally the truth does pop up on Sky Sports where Newcastle United are concerned.

One example being this Sunday morning ahead of the Chelsea match.

Neil Ashton hosts Sunday Supplement, he is also Chief football reporter at The Sun.

His guests today were Alyson Rudd from The Times, Andy Dunn Chief Sports Writer at The Mirror and Neil Custis who covers Man City and Man Utd for The Sun.

Andy Dunn of course has written some shameful stuff on the Mike Ashley and Rafa Benitez, based on lies or lazily researched ‘facts’, you can read our coverage of what he’s previous said here.

The line-up on Sky Sports this morning was presumably no accident, with Andy Dunn facing Neil Custis across the table.

Neil Custis might cover the Manchester clubs but is also a big lifelong Newcastle United fan.

Classic stuff as he exposed just how embarrassing the likes of Andy Dunn, Richard Keys, Andy Gray, Dennis Wise and the rest have been, in their defence of Mike Ashley and attacks on Rafa Benitez and the Newcastle fans.

Neil Custis speaking on Sunday Supplement on 26 August 2018:

“If any Premier League manager has a reason to moan, it is Rafa Benitez.

“A man who has done sensational things under difficult circumstances at Newcastle United.

“Somebody who has actually made a profit in the transfer market.

“Who has had transfer windows when he hasn’t been able to do any business.

“Has had promises (from Mike Ashley) that haven’t come through.

“Has tried to make…wants the training ground, which is derelict, to be better.

“Wants investment in the Academy.

“Wants to realise the potential of the football club.

“And has been undermined every step of the way by an owner, who Richard Keys, Andy Gray, everyone…seems to think has done a great job, ‘stabilised the football club.’

“Stabilisised it over the last 10 years?

“Right.

“Over the last 10 years at Newcastle United, they have had an average position of 12th, and that doesn’t include the two relegations. Before that their average position was eighth but that also included finishing second, third, fifth, seventh, two FA Cup finals, four semi-finals, qualified for Europe regularly, but Ashley has stabilised the situation?

“He has actually doubled the debt along the way (as well), I don’t know how he has done that is beyond me, considering how little he has spent.

“Sports Direct has probably done alright out of it…

“But for people to come out and defend this man?

“People point to this 10th place finish from last season, as a defence of Mike Ashley’s strategy…it’s to do with that man (Rafa Benitez).

“If Newcastle lose him, I swear it will be one of the worst moments in our recent history.

“And also, another thing that irks people who are Newcastle fans, is (the idea) that Newcastle fans seemingly have an entitlement to want to be up there and winning trophies, and unrealistic expectations….

“Newcastle United haven’t won a domestic trophy since 1955! There’s nothing unrealistic about it.

“They just want a bit of hope. A bit of hope that things will be better, they want to be competitive, and they want to see their football club properly.

“Fifty thousand go every week and they are having the mick taken out of them.”



  • Paul Patterson

    👏👏👏👏 That man!

  • panther

    I like him

  • Big Hairy Man

    Well said. I’m off now to join the protests.

  • Kenny

    You just have to look at the Fat Rats associates who are all scum & not one of them has any credibility whatsoever.

  • Kenny

    In recent pictures Wise looks like he’s got some sort of disease,
    Hope it’s nothing minor

    • Son of Wilt

      It certainly isn’t Gigantism.

  • SuperDesHamilton

    Finally! This is how we all feel a couldn’t of put it better myself

  • Damon Horner

    Interesting to read any counter points, great stuff! As Sports Direct and Ashley himself have prospered Newcastle has suffered relatively speaking. That’s probably not a coincidence.

  • SuperDesHamilton

    Monkseaton currently rocking back & forth or headhunting Neil Custis

    • Damon Horner

      He’ll join the list of disapproved journalists which Caulkin and Edwards are currently on.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        Monkseaton standing in the lift checking credentials

        • Will In Despair!

          More like bringing the tea trolly, again!

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I wouldn’t trust monk with anything hot

      • TheFatController

        Mugpie is the new Goebbels – taking out journalists not following the party line by having them ‘disappear’…

  • Kenny

    You would think that somewhere along the line he’d have had his yaks sorted instead of walking around like a bong eyed Chinaman

  • Cockneytrev

    Absolutely bang on the money,, we need more of this from people in the media,,
    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • Tony English

    Taped it. Look forward to seeing Dunn’s face.

  • superalansuddick

    Look at the evil in Wise`s eyes,what a horrible nasty little spunkweasel he is.

    • Vincent Gigante

      Looks like he’s got ashleys hand up him. Puppet.
      Selltheclubyoubigfatbastard

  • TheFatController

    Dunn was on the ropes, defending his stance with some comical defence that Rafa isn’t a saint and it’s not all bad from Ashley.

    Lovely that he generalises everyone as being unable to critically assess the situation and instead suggesting we all just want to back Rafa no matter what, and thus implying we are incapable of critical thinking and evaluating a situation intelligently…

    • Tony English

      Aye. Just watched it. Quality viewing.

      Dunn squirming like Clarko, the pedantic king of semantics.

      • TheFatController

        I’d like to hear from a manager who treats his transfer budget as being ‘way too much. The board really shouldn’t have. It’s more than we could possibly need. Put your money away, I always tell them…’

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Dunn didn’t know what to do or say, liars generally don’t when there called out on lies

  • mactoon

    Any links to the video of it? I can only find audiio

    • Peaky

      Chronicle on line….it’s tremendous.

  • Billmag

    The vast majority of us on here 👏👏👏👏👏 that man, please more journos like him come forward and tell it how it is.

  • Ron

    Make the man a Saint!

  • mactoon

    Nice to see someone telling it like it is, that Dunn from the Mirror didn’t have an answer. Bloody poor journalist

  • Peter

    Well said…

  • CaptainCaveman

    Absolutely superbly put.

  • Tweed Mag

    Quoting facts and figures will always prevail over PR clap-trap. Neil Custis embarrassed Ashley’s cronies in a few short minutes. Bishop has failed entirely and the problems are piling up – SD Shareholders urged to vote against Ashley – Chi Onwurah maintains her pressure – Rafa runs rings around the apologists – Workhouse of Fraser staggers from one crisis to another – Wise/Keys/Gray/Ameobi are a laughing stock – Magpie Group are working wonders. Ashley might have a lot of money to buy tanks to park on his critic’s lawns, but he is no good at spotting minefields.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      The magpie group should not be allowed that name until they put their money where their mouth is.

      • JohnCornwell’sHair

        Better phone the name police.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          The oringinal Magpie group had a plan and were prepared to put their own money up. So far, this lot are just another bedsheet waving group

      • Tweed Mag

        Gosh, how terrible.

  • Down Under Mag

    It’s good to finally see some people starting to call out the lies being spouted by the Bishop P.R. bandwagon and it is funny how little answers those spouting them can come up with when put under fire. They have been given plenty of space to spout whatever they wanted in defence of Ashley but now the pressure is heating up. Saw Shearer on the pre-match for last nights game and he was starting to get vocal as well.

    I loved the bit about expectation – no major trophy since 1955 and we are somehow thinking we are entitled? All we want is a club that tries…the manager certainly cares but is actually being undermined by the owner, that is how ludicrous the situation is.

  • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

    The trouble here is custis is also lying but that’s ok because it fits the Mag’s agenda right? Debt had not been doubled, even with the last championship season the debt is lower than when Ashley took over.

    • Geordiegiants

      How much debt were we in when he took over?

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        We had £150m

        • JohnCornwell’sHair

          That may be what Ashley has stabilised then, the debt.

          • Sickandtired

            Stabilised it at twice what it was.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I’ve just explained the debt position. Also, bare in mind, the club lost £33m in 2007,£21m in 2008, £16m in 2009.

            You may argue that 2008 & 9 was under Ashley but these losses were incurred because of the salaries we were contractually obliged to continue with.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            He’s stabilised the finances & yes, the debt.

            We were losing £33m a year. £9m was interest charges. The debt was pressing, the first part of the stadium debt was due to roll over and a good chunk of the transfer fees were due.

            By refinancing, it allowed the club time to address the wage bill and get the club back to a profit. It saved £9m a year in interest and gave us liquidity.

        • Geordie-7676

          Absolute crock….the operating debt when he took over was 78million!

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Here is a breakdown of our creditors:

            Loans £67m
            Overdraft £11m
            Unpaid transfer fees: £52m
            Other /Deferred income (mainly advanced sponsorship + HMRC liability): £28m

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            The debt was £148m I have the accounts.

          • Mr T

            What page of the accounts is this on?

          • Will In Despair!

            You sir are a blatant liar!! 🤮

          • Geordie-7676

            Of course you do cupcake….of course you do!

    • JohnCornwell’sHair

      Keys, Gray, Wise et al all fit your agenda and all they do is spout paid for lies.

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        I don;t have an agenda, just want the best for NUFC.

        I’d love a new owner, I’d love us to have a side that is there or thereabouts.

        I am however aware of facts and reality and blurring facts or losing grip on reality will not achieve a new owner.

        • JohnCornwell’sHair

          Do you seriously believe Ashley is or has proven to be “the best for NUFC”?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            No, however, that’s not the point. He took us on when in a bit of a hole. He actually did the hard part but by the time we’d recovered the relationship with fans had soured.

            His concept was quite a good one on paper but chose some poor people to execute the plan.

            It we want a new owner, we need to find one or buy the shares ourselves.

    • Mr T

      From the BBC website, 15th September 2008: “However the 43-year-old admitted in a club magazine article that he did not carry out due diligence on the club and its debts before his takeover, which was completed in just five days.
      When he did look at the books – of a club which had net debts of £70m in 2007 – he found that it owed £27m in transfers and had taken its major sponsorship payments upfront rather than in instalments.”
      Compare that “£70m net debts” to the clubs own accounts from 18th May 2018 which states the debt stands at £144m.
      Seems like it’s doubled to me.

      • Sickandtired

        Right. Instead of now being mortgage free on the St James’ expansion (to have been fully repaid by 2016) the ‘club’ owes all of the original mortgage, plus interest, to Ashley instead. As thanks for that, SD shareholders have enjoyed profiting from free advertising and our merchandise.
        It does make me wonder exactly how brain dead anyone needs to be to actually accept the lie that anyone, let alone a businessman and his hoard of advisers, could not identify a mortgage charge. A charge which, in black and white clearly stated, had to be repaid in full on change of ownership or sale of the club.
        The club operating overdraft is even a secured loan – from Barclays and secured against all PL / FA income!
        As for ‘5 days’ there’s that little fact of a SD NUFC website created 6 months prior to to the purchase!

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          How, when we were losing £33m a year, could the club afford to repay the loans? The club were going to struggle to roll over the first bond that were coming to maturity.

          I don’t think the mortgage was the issue when he took over, he was able to and willing to take on that debt.

          The SD / NUFC site created when Polygon were doing DD but later pulled out.

          • Will In Despair!

            Ih my and to again put this bluntly; more of your lies, and even more of your bollocks from the apologists.

            Thankfully, and aways a big positive how no one perdob, yes not 1 peeps will believe any of the bile and garbage you always spew!

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        The BBC report isn’t representing the actual accounts:

        2007:
        Loans £67m
        Overdraft £11m
        Unpaid transfer fees: £52m
        Other /Deferred income (mainly advanced sponsorship + HMRC liability): £28m

        Offset unpaid transfer fees owed to us: £6m

        • Mr T

          Where can I find this information?
          Do you have a source?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Companies house, you need to look at company number ending ‘667 which is the comprehensive figures and where current figures can be compared on a consistent basis. FFS used to have a lot of different companies under this company as a group structure, MA has parked many of these subs so the comparison needs to be with the original Newcastle United plc.

          • Will In Despair!

            Oh my word, still more lies, still more utter bollocks from the apologists!

            Thankfully, and always a big positive that no 1, not one person will ever believe any of the utter 💩💩💩and bile you always ALWAYS repeat and spew!

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            So, which figure do you struggle with?

          • Mr T

            The £52million one really, I think we all are…

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Current liabilities, page 15, Trade creditors – £38m and non-current liabilities, £14m. £38m+£14m=£52m

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Do we now agree?

        • Mr T

          Found it.
          Under what section is the £52m unpaid transfer fees? Nothing immediately jumps out

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            The majority of the trade creditors are unpaid transfer fees, there is a big chunk payable within a year.

          • Mr T

            How do you know this? Where is this stated?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            In a way, it doesn’t matter, it’s a creditor but if you look at the previous seasons and the transfers in & out, it’s fairly clear which transfers make up the debt.

          • Mr T

            How does it not matter but yet it’s fairly clear which transfers make up the debt?
            Is it just Martins and Duff from the previous summer?
            How can you be so sure of a figure but not simply tell me straight out how you have arrived at it?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            It doesn’t matter because if I owe £4,500 next month and I don’t have the cash, I’m in bother.

            You can tell roughly what the payment is and who for in the basis of the increases each year leading up to 2007. 2005 sees a big rise in the creditors due after more than one year, this is Michael Owen for instance.

          • Mr T

            Again, it’s all “roughly” and “fairly clear” now while in your first post you said the BBC report didn’t represent the “actual accounts”.
            Can you give me a specific point of reference in the accounts that you told me to look at that clearly state we owed £52m in transfers?
            Page 15 shows an increase in the liabilities of quite a bit but isn’t very clear why. It states at the start all the transfers we made but a lot of them were in June 2007 after Ashley took control (Beye, Rozenhal, Barton, Smith Geremi etc), are you saying that those players should be/are included in “unpaid transfer fees”?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Apologies if I’m telling you to suck eggs. The trade creditors is the amount we owe away from the bank and regulated lending. That could be anything from the stationery supplier through to Real Madrid’s balance on Michael Owen. The main point here is that we’re a football club where biggest outlays are on player wages and player transfers. So, of the £52m, it’s likely that most of this balances owed on transfers.

            As I said, go back a year and you see the Owen transfer affect the creditor figure.

            The Beye, Rozenhal, Barton, Smith and Geremi transfers all land in 2007/8 figures even though only the Smith deal was completed under Mike Ashley’s rubber stamp.

          • Mr T

            I’ve looked at the accounts you said and I can’t see any £52m referenced anywhere. And now you’re telling me that it’s “likely” most of this balance was transfers.
            From
            “Actual”
            to
            “Roughly”
            to
            “Fairly clear”
            to
            “Likely”
            Chris Mort seemed to think they spent a substantial sum in that summer, he’s quoted in the Mirror from March 2008 as saying this: “Huge billionaires, multi-millionaires can’t stand pressure? That doesn’t make any sense.

            “I think these sorts of comments say more about Sam (Allardyce) than anyone else. I would rather look forward than dwell on the direction in which Sam took this club.

            “We invested more than £30million on acquiring new players last summer”
            Sure you’ve got your sums right?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            The Trade creditors are £52m, we can agree on that? This figure is a liability, i.e. owed to someone else, not NUFC. i.e. it’s a debt- we agree?

            I’ve not got the aged creditors listing but I think we can be certain that a football clubs’ trade creditors will mainly be made up by football creditors.

          • Mr T

            So could it be the £38m is the “more than £30m” Chris Mort was on about?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            No, the £38m is the part of the overall creditors figure that is due within 12 months of the accounts date. The remaining £14m being installments due after more than one year.

            The figures in these accounts do not include player additions from 2007/8 season.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            The £30m transfers of that summer were those after the 2007 accounts, IE they appear in 2007/8.

            Although many were arranged by FFS on pre contract freebies, their registration started after the 2017 accounts date.

            Hope that’s clear.

          • Mr T

            Not really sure. I think it depends on how you view these “debts”.
            The £67m loan was for the stadium extension wasn’t it? And had to repaid within 60 days if the club changed hands? Something Ashley should have known but he didn’t do due diligence. The loan was being paid off and would have been cleared by 2016.
            As for owing clubs for old transfers, whilst it might not be ideal, don’t a lot of clubs practice this? Do Spurs still owe us for Sissoko example?
            Ashley didn’t have to pay those off did he?
            The Ashley loan figures change for every statement or interview he gave, sometimes it was £110m, another time was £111m, another was £70m plus about £30m for transfers while the accounts themselves show it to be a perfect £100m.
            What can’t be disputed is that since he bought the club, the debt has risen. The debt has risen and a lot of it is because of Ashley’s mismanagement, the two relegations which he contributed to and had to provide funds if he wanted to protect his “investment”, his poor managerial appointments and a general apathy towards the club since about the time he undermined Kevin Keegan.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            The Stadium loans are said to be repayable due to the change of ownership. I’ve never seen this documented but given the interest rate on the loans, I can see why Ashley wanted them repaid, they were at a high rate even for the time.

            The loan would not have been cleared by 2016 under FFS. Had he been able to continue, FFS would have rolled over the loans as HE/THE CLUB HAD NO MEANS TO REPAY.

            Clubs do owe money on transfers just as most owe money on their mortgage. However, the amount owed needs to be manageable. Tottenham owed 10% of their annual turnover, we owed 63%. Given that the majority of or transfer debt was owned within 12 months, and our high wage bill, there was clearly a problem.

            You ask, “Ashley didn’t have to pay those off did he?” well the club were contractually obliged to pay the transfer debts outstanding ans £32m was due to be paid out of the next 12 months income so the money had to come from somewhere. As most of our income was already assigned to pay wages, someone had to cough up.

            Ashley’s loan was £129m, he paid as much of the lending as possible without penalty. He also paid a chunk of the unpaid transfer business off. This left some money in the pot for transfers and to finance the club for the next few years. It was losing money at a rate of just under £3m a month.

            The net debt has not risen, in terms of the assets less the liabilities, the club is in a better position now than in 2007.

            I agree he’s made mistakes but most football club owners do. He’s been unlucky too. JFK got ill (ok, he had heart issues so it should have been foreseeable) but he’d have kept us up. Chris Hughton didn’t have the authority and Shearer didn’t have the experience. I thought Pardew was OK, Carver was never going to be a no.1 & Maclaren was a coach, not a manager.

          • Will In Despair!

            To put this bluntly; yet more lies, and even more bollocks from the apologists ilk.

            Thankfully, and a positive that not one single person ever believes any of the garbage you always always spew!

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Ahhha, cut & paste is working I see,

          • Will In Despair!

            To put this bluntly – even more lies, even more bollocks from the apologists.

            Thankfully and a big positive that not 1 person believes any of the garbage you always spew!

          • Will In Despair!

            To put this bluntly; yet more lies, and the same bollocks from the apologists ilk.

            Thankfully, and a big positive not 1 person believes any of the garbage you always spew!

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Had you been drinking by any chance?

        • Will In Despair!

          To put this bluntly; more lies, more bollocks from the apologists. Thankfully, and a positive that not 1 person believes any of the garbage you always spew!

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Get the accounts assets £8m liabilities £156m and take one from the other pretty simple really.

        • Mr T

          Where is that? Page 15 of the accounts?

        • Will In Despair!

          To put this bluntly; more lies, more bollocks from the apologists. Thankfully, and a positive that not 1 person believes any of the garbage you always spew!

          Oh and I’m still awaiting, with bated breath, these links you have so readily!!!

    • Will In Despair!

      To put this bluntly; more lies, more bollocks from the apologists.

      Thankfully, and a positive, that not 1 person believes any of the garbage you always spew!

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        So, the issue for you is that I present fact based evidence, why do you struggle to believe it?

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    The debt was £148m full stop. When Ashley took over crowds were declining and we were five points off relegation. Under Ashley we are in the top division 84% of the time compared to only 75% of the time. The press are having a go at Rafa this morning for his tactics. They like the Mag hate Newcastle full stop. The crowd were great yesterday with less than one hundred in Northumberland Street (confirmed by police). Looks like the protests are coming to an end which can only be good for the club.

    • JohnCornwell’sHair

      If protests did die off of course it would be good for the club, it would mean an easier life for the crooks, charlatans and liars that “run” it.

    • JohnCornwell’sHair

      Take out debt figures from what Custis said, do you agree with any of the other points he made?

    • Mike

      ah u must be enjoying all of this then …idiot

    • Will In Despair!

      To put this bluntly; more lies, more bollocks from the apologists. Thankfully, and a positive that not 1 person believes any of the garbage you always spew!

      Oh and I’m still awaiting these links you have so readily!!!

    • WrongToon

      “When Ashley took over crowds were declining and we were five points off relegation.” – a snapshot of a single moment in time. Meaningless. Since he took over we’ve been relegated twice.

      “Under Ashley we are in the top division 84% of the time compared to only 75% of the time.” – now we’re talking about a completely different, undefined time period. Are you comparing Ashley’s tenure to the entire history of the club (which would be stupid)? To the previous 11 years? To a select 11 year period?

      “The debt was £148m full stop.” – and owed to who? Because now it’s just an IOU written from the club to Ashley. Governed by no rules. Totally opaque. And even if it was £148m, why isn’t it going down? We’re not spending money on players, the stadium, the academy, the training facilities… the TV money is astronomical nowadays, we’re in overall profit in terms of transfers. Relegations you might say… and who’s fault would they be?

  • kingfisher

    For me,the last sentence says it all : “Fifty thousand go every week and they are having the mick taken out of them.”
    Why do they keep on going? If somebody continually took the “mick” out of me, I would take action to stop it,, not just sit there and take it.