Things are going from bad to worse under Mike Ashley in this pre-season.

Yet again there has been zero investment in the training ground, the Academy, St James Park, and of course no net investment in the first team squad, transfers currently showing tens of millions of pounds in credit this summer.

Last night, Rafa Benitez went public with how bad things are on the transfer front and how he has been let down. Holding out little hope that he expects the club to properly deliver on transfers in the remaining week of the window.

After the 4-0 hammering by Braga, the Newcastle players refused to speak to the media.

At the time it was believed to be simply due to disappointment at the defeat and general situation at the club.

However, on Thursday morning it has been revealed that it is due to the players being in dispute with Mike Ashley.

Last summer we saw a long drawn out farce with the Newcastle United owner refusing to agree to the going rate on squad bonuses, not wanting to agree to the same kind of deal that players had at rival clubs.

It eventually took a phone conversation between captain Jamaal Lascelles and Mike Ashley for it to be sorted (see below), the dispute not settled until a month into the season in mid-September.

Now the Chronicle have revealed that once again Mike Ashley hasn’t agreed to a satisfactory deal with the players, leading them to refuse to speak to the media.

The newspaper add that the Newcastle players even refused to speak to the club’s official TV channel and website last night.

This club operates in such a cheap, embarrassing and haphazard way, you would almost think it was owned by whoever is in charge at Sports Direct…

The Mag – 13 September 2017:

Mike Ashley once again released a PR ‘exclusive’ through Sky Sports at the weekend.

The story being that the NUFC owner would ‘donate £20m’ to the Newcastle players if they win the FA Cup this season.

This leading to much amusement at what other unrealistic bonuses could be offered, such as winning the Premier League, or the Champions League, or the Great North Run before scoring a double hat-trick at Swansea.

This PR announcement came against a backdrop of a row that had lasted all summer, with Mike Ashley having offered the Newcastle players a bonus scheme for this Premier League season that was way below what rival clubs have incentivised players with.

The offer on the table was £1m if they finished 17th and avoided relegation, which worked out on average at less than a week’s wages for each player.

That amount would then increase by £1m for every position above 17th.

The Newcastle players though were refusing to accept less than their rivals and a month into the season there was still no agreement.

However, agreement has now been reached.

Miles Starforth (of the Shields Gazette) has had the inside track on this story from the start and he has revealed that a phone conversation between Mike Ashley and Newcastle captain Jamaal Lascelles saw the bonus scheme eventually agreed.

On Wednesday morning he reports that the agreed deal is the same as what was on offer previously but that Newcastle players will share £4m if they avoid relegation in 17th place and then still an additional £1m for every position higher.

The Premier League payout at the end of the season sees the 20th placed club get £1.9m extra for finishing bottom, then for each place above they get an extra £1.9m.

So roughly speaking, Mike Ashley and the Newcastle players have agreed that the squad will receive half of the extra money the club receive depending on their position…plus the £20m for winning the FA Cup.

Now the players would receive the same £20m if they win the Premier League (cough cough) as they would the FA Cup.

I would happily settle for either…



  • Paul Patterson

    For £ucks sake!
    Anything this owner can do to disrupt and stifle the club, he will do. If anyone was in any doubt that this isn’t deliberate needs to give their heads a shake.
    #Wheresthemoneygone

    • Your mum

      It’s not in his interest to disrupt the club, he needs it in the PL to retain it’s value, this is just supposed journalists with blinkers on mid witch hunt.

      • nevfur

        If he needs it in the PL why won’t he buy the players we need? That’s what no one understands. Relegation will cost a fortune. Don’t give me “we don’t have the money”

        • Your mum

          He obviously believes that we can survive. I think the club will be sold this season, if he pumps £50m in, then it’s £50m less profit.

          • nevfur

            Hope so on both. Survival and sale

    • Soldier

      that`s a troll below

      • Paul Patterson

        I know. School holidays again . .

  • Ba ba.

    It’s getting embarrassing now

  • Your mum

    Come on, whilst Mike Ashley owns the club he does not negotiate with players, this is what he pays Charnley etc for. Whilst we want him out we can’t just pin everything on him, this is very lazy journalism.

  • paul mclaughlan

    I’m sorry I know bonuses are part of modern day footballers. I know how much they struggle to get by with the millions they get paid each year. But it sickens me very much. They should get fuckall after their basic wage.

    • Paul Patterson

      Professionalism? Gentleman’s agreement with your employees. That’s universal regardless of what wage you’re on.
      If the whole footballing world is doing it, then it’s only fair that Newcastle do it.

      • paul mclaughlan

        I really couldn’t care less if another millionaire footballer never gets another bonus. Whether it’s one of our players or not. Truly sickens me.

        • Paul Patterson

          Well it happens. Until there’s a financial revolution I suggest you go and follow cricket. I’d bet their player get bonuses as well.

          • paul mclaughlan

            Looks like my original reply didn’t make the cut. Ah well.

            Why would I follow a sport I think isfuckinshit? Your comment makes no sense whatsoever. Just because I disagree with millionaires getting more cash for doing their jobs. You think I should follow a different sport? Strange thing to say. Pity as I normally agree with most things you say.

  • TheNutJob

    manager unhappy, players unhappy
    Doomed

  • Bowlsey

    I talk to fans of other clubs at work and they honestly have no idea how badly run and embarrassingly cheapskate life under Mike Ashley is at Newcastle. They just see that we have Rafa Benitez in charge and assume that all is well. It isn’t until I point out to them exactly what Rafa has to deal with and how he has to beg, steal and borrow just to get a mediocre player through the door that they look genuinely shocked. One guy at work said “But that doesn’t make sense! Not only is your owner a billionaire, but Newcastle have to be one of the richest clubs in the world, so where’s all the money?!” I simply replied with “You tell me.”

    • Squintytoonarmy

      Spot on – for some reason I drop in on the Cardiff city forum and they were going on about how we shouldn’t be bleating. They see Rafa in charge and a financially stable club but not what lies beneath.

      • Bowlsey

        Yep, and just like an iceberg floating on the ocean, what lies beneath dwarves what’s on the surface and is far more dangerous.

    • ghostrider

      Those fans of other clubs wouldn’t be Man Utd fans or Man City?…Chelsea?…Liverpool?…..Arsenal?….Tottenham? Everton?….etc, would they?

      • Bowlsey

        No, they wouldn’t be. They are fans of clubs like Boro, Villa, Huddersfield and Barnsley. Quite a mix actually.

        • TheFatController

          Goatrider can read minds. And predict the future.

          You may not know this, as he is humble and won’t ever say, but he follows no one and speaks his own mind, and is not a sheep, and recognises the need for balance…. yawn.

        • ghostrider

          But we are in better shape than all of them. We finished higher than all of them.
          Boro can’t get out of the championship. Nor can Villa.
          Huddersfield struggled last season even after supposedly out doing us in the transfer market…apparently.
          And Barnsley? Where are they?

          Shouldn’t it be us who are going on about how badly run their clubs are?
          Get back to me.

          • TheFatController

            Give it a year, goattee, our supremacy over these clubs will have been eroded massively

          • ghostrider

            Not a chance.
            You watch what happens to those clubs that people keep calling “ambitious” and soon it will be realised that the word ” ambitious” was mixed up with “extravagance”….then watch them struggle.

            The newbies might have a good go for a few seasons but the ones that went hell for leather will suffer the consequences.

            As for us? We’ll simply bob up and down the premier league until such a time comes when it becomes a fair league.
            Chances of that?

            Until then it’s batten down the hatches, ride the storms, then steady as she goes…whilst meany ships of the premier league sink to the bottom or rust into oblivion.

          • Christopher Smeaton

            what did you bet net spend would be again? just waiting to hear you worm your way out of it

          • ghostrider

            Can’t remember saying it. Can you enlighten me and show me where I said it?

          • Christopher Smeaton

            sorry my mistake it was your brother

          • ghostrider

            lol.

          • TheFatController

            Stop liking your own comments. You’re like a dog licking itself .

          • ghostrider

            Hmmm, should I stick to a D minus or ………or………. It’s an F I’m afraid.

          • Bowlsey

            I’d rather not. Trying to make sense of your logic in equating what is and isn’t going on at other clubs as a justification for what’s going on behind the scenes at Newcastle is giving me massive heartburn.

          • ghostrider

            No problem. It’s hard when the reality hits home that all is not as bad as is made out, isn’t it?

  • mentalman

    not much of a story in this as it’s been happening every year since 2010

  • TheFatController

    He’ll have a phone call to Jamaal and sort it and then the apologists will declare he’s a great owner.

    • Paul Patterson

      He will be on the phone to Jamaal to negotiate the bonus and then he will warm the chopper up to flog him.. 💰👋🚁

    • TheNutJob

      i think it`s gone past that

  • Mrkgw

    Wonder if this is the real cause of Shelvey not playing. The club are in absolute meltdown. Problem is that it appears to be a deliberate case of sabotage by the owner. What the hell is he doing?

    • Paul Patterson

      Forcing Rafas hand and fleecing the club.

      • Mrkgw

        Pardew will be readying himself as Rafa is evidently on the edge. What a disgrace.

    • GlasgowMag

      Only his shrink knows that question🤡🤡🤡

  • TheNutJob

    with Lejeune injured i didn`t think fatty would sell Jamaal as i first thought,
    i`ve changed my mind & i think he`ll go if a big bid comes in because the Capt will be as sick as Rafa with Fatty

    • Mrkgw

      On evidence of this mornings reports, your guess is a fairly safe bet.

      • TheNutJob

        relegation is on the cards

        • Mrkgw

          Defo. 100%. I can hear Lawrenson, Crooks and Merson now telling us how they fear for the club.

        • Peaky

          Nil points and bottom after the first 6 games……Cardiff will be rubbing their hands playing us this early….

    • Wezza

      Yep, agree, with the PR excuses already lined up to take the heat off the club and onto lascelles…
      ‘His head was turned’
      ‘We offered him a high wage’ (40k lol)
      ‘We wanted to keep him here’

      • Jezza

        No loyalty in the game any more
        Did everything to keep him
        Turned down a very generous new contract offer
        No point hanging onto an unhappy player
        Didn’t want him to go for free at the end of his contract
        Transfer request
        Refused to play
        Unsettling effect on the dressing room
        etc etc

        • Wezza

          Even the PR propaganda is as easy to spot as the trolls.

    • Jezza

      Lascelles is going. Ther is no doubt about that whatsoever. Fatso wants the money and as always that will dictate everything.

      • Ron

        He wants £400M for club but can’t get it so selling Lascelles and paying the proceeds as a diviend or making it a loan repayment to himself will go a chunck of the way.

  • ghostrider

    When you look at the wage bill at this club nobody needs to do anything else but know that this club is paying players some exceptional wages.
    If people want to buy into this nonsense about bonus and stuff then fair enough but for me they get paid more than enough money ( in some) per week that would keep some families for 3 years.

    It’s about time people started getting real and stop using money bag clubs as some kind of yardstick. It’s sickening.

    • Your mum

      be careful mate, you’ll get called a troll for having a balanced opinion and not following he sheep.

      • Christopher Smeaton

        you’re the same person/people posting the same anti toon, pro ashley drivel. he breaks promises, you cover for him. If you loved this club you would support the players and the manager. [email protected] off.

        • ghostrider

          The entire club gets supported. That’s what it’s about. But in the grand scheme of it all it’s the team on that pitch that fans go to see.

          • Mirandinha9

            Your hero is not enjoying things now

          • ghostrider

            Nor is yours.

          • TheFatController

            Hurt people hurt people. Are you hurting?

          • ghostrider

            No….are you?

          • TheFatController

            Give over, even you know you’re weird. That’s why you have no friends and come on here writing for hours …

          • ghostrider

            You’re trying hard but the barrel is being scraped. I’ll give you a D minus.

          • Jezza

            The Manchester glory seeker troll would be hurting if everybody just blocked him and completely ignored him instead of giving him the reaction he so desperately craves to fill his sad pathetic empty life.

          • Mirandinha9

            My hero was, is and always will be, a certain Kevin Keegan, who kicked your hero’s axxe in Court.

          • ghostrider

            Enjoy your hero. Enjoy him for life if that’s how you feel.
            He used to be mine in the early days of him playing for us and then managing us until he left.
            His second spell as manager knocked him right down in my estimation. I have no time for him for what he tried to do.

            But each to their own.

            Newcastle United will always be bigger than any one person and any person who tries to batter the club, legend or not, will cease to have my respect.

        • Wezza

          Just block the trolls mate.

          • Christopher Smeaton

            As time goes on I actually wonder if monkseaton et al actually work for this publication- presumably the more comments and views of an article- the more revenue comes in.

      • ghostrider

        They can call me anything they want to. It’s water off a duck’s back to me. I say what’s on my mind and I follow nobody but will certainly agree with any posts I think is relevant.
        Stick to your guns on what you think.
        Too many people are too weak minded to go with their own thoughts and tend to meekly follow a built up frenzy that quickly turns into a majority.

        Basically SOME people love to back turmoil rather than anything balanced.

        • Your mum

          I totally agree, people on here are so blinkered. Ashley wouldn’t have a clue who wants what bonus, it’s what he has employed others for. Awful article really.

          • Billmag

            Exactly the same man who had no idea about the disgraceful working practices at Shirebrook give your [email protected]@@@@g head a shake.

          • toonsteve

            Why did he have ti get involved last year. Charnley is the lowest paud CEO in the premiership. On about the same as a secondary school headteacher. Do you genuinely believe he can sign off bonuses which may total in excess of 10m without Ashley approval?

          • Your mum

            Yes, he controls all budgets as long as they are within the guidelines set out, and this is where the stumbling block is.

          • Billmag

            You are a fool the MD can’t go for a 💩 without asking fatty first.

          • Your mum

            So you think Ashley micro manages what Charnley does, yet in the next breath you will say he doesn’t care about the club, make your mind up.

          • Billmag

            My mind’s made up about fatty he simply doesn’t give a toss about the club, and Barnes was brought in by fatty to oversee the MD.

          • toonsteve

            So who does Charnley speak to when there is a stumbling block?

        • toonsteve

          I m waiting for a further post from you on previous post to prove you re not a troll

          • ghostrider

            I’m honestly not interested in what you think of me being whatever you want to think I am.
            I’ll respond to you when I see fit….like now and any other time I see fit.
            It’s pointless you getting damp over my posts. Just block me if you think I’m a troll and I’m gone.
            How easy is that?

          • TheFatController

            You speak sense at last, Goatrider

          • toonsteve

            Getting personal. Keep it up!

          • ghostrider

            Got yourself well wound up now, haven’t you.

          • toonsteve

            Not at all. I m enjoying debunking your deluded views of Ashley. I m surprised you haven t been sacked by your PR company after your f**k up yesterday evening.

          • ghostrider

            Up to now you’re failing miserably but I’m enjoying watching you try and justify nothing.

          • KRS1

            I assume you call yourself Ghostrider because you work in a mortuary and f**k the corpses – likely to be the only action you see. Now f**k off

          • ghostrider

            Is that for me or is it for the crowd you believe is cheering behind you?

          • KRS1

            I don’t play to the crowd, I don’t need people to agree with me for validation – that is all for you.

          • ghostrider

            Appreciate it, cheers.

          • Jezza

            He’s the worst troll of the lot. He is a Manchester supporter who has been infesting this site for years using at least 40 different ID’s. Years ago he was notorious for posting endless inflammatory comments under the ID “alan pardews black and white army”. He has got a desperate need to wind up Newcastle fans to fill his sad, empty pathetic, meaningless, sex starved life. Just block him.

          • toonsteve

            He s getting very personal. I m getting very upset!lol

        • TheFatController

          You’re obsessed with telling us you follow nobody.

          That’s fantastic to hear. Pleased for you.

          • ghostrider

            Thanks.

          • TheFatController

            Pleasure

      • TheNutJob

        troll

      • TheFatController

        Ah, the reverse psychology of ‘its us that’s normal, they should be ashamed’ – typical trick of the deluded, project that you’re the normal one when in a tiny minority.

        Well done. Most would fall for that.

        • Your mum

          no reverse psychology at all, you just have to look in from the outside without blinkers to see how embarrassing and deluded some of these posts are. For example, why would someone who is trying to sell something wreck it and decrease it’s value? They wouldn’t, you want to retain value at minimum cost, which is what he is doing. I don’t like it either but people don’t have the capacity to see that.

          • TheFatController

            But he has decreased the value and can’t sell it?

            So I can’t answer why he does it, but he has done it. He’s done it on a fair few occasions.

            Why when he makes mistake after mistake and wrecked the relationship with fans players and manger are you asking me ‘why would he wreck it?’

            Motive is unclear, but to claim that it’s not in his interests to wreck it is proof he ain’t wrecking it is wrong .

          • Your mum

            how has he decreased the value? the club is worth more now than it was 5 years ago for instance?

        • Jezza

          That sad pathetic Manchester supporting troll is descending to new depths even by his own standards, replying to his own comments under a different ID. Another one to add to the ever growing blocked list.

    • Bowlsey

      I don’t know a single Newcastle fan who thinks we should be competing with the ‘money bags’ clubs. Just competing with the likes of Fulham, Watford, Brighton and Leicester will do, ta.

      • Mrkgw

        In reality, we should be out-doing those clubs. We are far bigger than them all. Granted, Citeh, Man Utd, Chelsea are near untouchable but the rest, we should be up there. Problem is that this regime have dimmed expectation.

        • ghostrider

          We would be outdoing those clubs or on par if the premier league was a fair league.
          It isn’t and it’s clear to see.
          Even Ashley sees the danger in trying to play along.

      • ghostrider

        But we are competing with the likes of Brighton, etc. We finished 10th, so what is it about competing?
        Or is it a race of who can buy the most expensive nobody?

        • Bowlsey

          No, I think you’ll find it’s more to do with that word that makes Mike Ashley feel physically sick every time he hears it in conjunction with the club he bought in 2007. That word is ‘ambition’.

          • ghostrider

            Ok I’ll give you that if you can tell me what the ambition of every other club outside the top 8 is.
            And also tell me what the ambition is of all clubs in the championship.
            Then league one.
            And league two.

            You see, it’s very easy to use the word AMBITION but it has to actually have a real desire for an end product of each ambitious move.

            So let’s start with us after we got relegated.
            What was our ambition?

          • Bowlsey

            Getting back to the Premier League obviously, but then let me turn that around and then ask you what we should be doing in the Premier League once we are back in it? You don’t seem to understand that Ashley learned nothing after the two relegations and is doing the same old penny pinching s**t that led to the two relegations in the first place! As soon as Rafa goes we will just be sat there, stinking the league up again with another dumpling ‘yes man’ like Pardew in charge going absolutely NOWHERE!!

            Look, I’ve read your posts on here, ghostrider, and so I realise that this will be like talking to a brick wall, so we’ll just leave it at that. Have a nice day!

          • ghostrider

            The penny pinching you seem to adhere to is nothing of the sort.
            Look at what was made available to McClaren.
            Argue it all you want but fans were well happy with the signings made in that premier season.
            It simply turned out to be a bad set of buys on top of a manager who had trouble getting them to perform.

            Greed?….Not a chance was it greed.

          • LockieToon

            So explain why Steve McClaren got £80million for transfers and Rafa can’t even get £16m for Rondon when the club has made over £120mil from TV money and over £40mil in player transfers this summer plus ticket sales, sponsership, merchandise….

          • ghostrider

            Commitment.

          • LockieToon

            To his new wallpaper??

          • Jezza

            You are trying to debate with a Manchester supporting troll who comes on here purely to wind up Newcastle fans and provoke a reaction. Just block him.

          • Bowlsey

            Thanks for the heads up.

      • Martin Rooney

        Fulham are a money bags club, Leicester are a money bags club,
        And he have significantly bigger wage costs than Watford and Brighton

        • Bowlsey

          Fulham are a money bags club are they? (sighs) So many trolls and so little time. Block block blockety block…

      • Ben Jones

        Only one of them teams finished above us last season, and by 3 points, what are you going on about?

        • Bowlsey

          If you were an actual supporter of the club and not a troll on a wind up mission, you’d know exactly what I’m ‘going on about’. Goodbye. Block block blockety block.

          • Ben Jones

            ^ ‘I didn’t mean compete as in compete, I meant compete as in compete’

    • Toon Andy

      Compared to 10 years ago our wage bill has decreased yet money in the PL had gone up.

      • ghostrider

        Check our wage bill against the rest of the premier league and get back to me.

        • LockieToon

          I’m not bothered about the bonuses the players should play for what they get but I don’t use the wages for an excuse fro lack of investement by Ashley. For example, let’s say the average wage of a 25 man squad is £40,000 a week. That equates to about £50mil a year which is easily covered by ticket sales, sponsership, merchandise without taking into account the TV money and player sales etc.

          • ghostrider

            Tell me what would pacify you and what you think would pacify the many in terms of what you want.

          • LockieToon

            Ashley keeping his word of “Rafa will get every last penny generated by the club”…. which would equate to the following approximately for this summer.

            Money in:
            TV – £123mil approx.
            Ticket Sales – £30mil approx.
            Sponsership – £5mil approx.
            Merchandise – £5mil approx.
            Player sales – £40 mil approx.

            Money out:
            Player Wages: £50mil approx
            Manager Wage: £6mil approx
            Club Expenditure: £20mil approx.

            So about that’s at least £100mil for Rafa if Ashley stuck to his word…

          • ghostrider

            So we get 123 million per season in TV money, do we?

          • LockieToon

            Why don’t you research it for yourself if you don’t know your facts

          • ghostrider

            My facts?
            You’re the one pushing so called facts, so show me.

          • LockieToon

            Wow, so you don’t know the TV rights payments NUFC received or even know how to Google “NUFC TV money 2018” how embarrassing for you.

          • ghostrider

            It seems you don’t because you’ve just bandied about 123 million for a season.

          • LockieToon

            You must be the only person who hasn’t seen Skyports news, read the Chronicle and even The Mag did an article on it. You’re lack of knowledge is amusing or are you just ignorant? 😂

  • Mrkgw

    I wonder whether footballers are able to take industrial action or, whether this constitutes a breach of contract. Saying that, Ashley would probably get 11 of the lads from the warehouse to stand in.

    • Paul Patterson

      At work it’s written into everyones contract that the employer must give the employee reasonable tools/training to do our jobs.
      Rafa and the players aren’t getting that . .

      • ghostrider

        They kick a football on a perfect pitch with plenty of facilities.
        If anything they should be docked their pay and paid a decent wage of something like £100,000 a year.

        People need to stop pandering to the salary whiners. It’s beyond silly.

        • Toon Andy

          Every thing you say is beyond silly.

          • ghostrider

            You’re trying. Keep it up and maybe you’ll get a massive bite so you can jump up in front of the fictional baying crowd you think is behind you. lol

      • Martin Rooney

        So if that is the case Rafa can leave with a breach of contract claim.
        He can also leave for breach of contract based on Ashley’s repeated public statement that Rafa has each and every penny at his disposal in order to purchase and manage the players he wants at the club.
        That constitutes an understood ‘working condition’. As a result any deviation from that gives him grounds to walk and even claim the payment for the rest of his contract, long and protracted I guess but would be allowed to work else where.
        All of that suggests that Rafa knows more than he is letting on and or that he knows that Charnely is just as frustrated as he is.
        In summary it be the case that an awful lot of the players Rafa wants don’t want to play for him or us. Sturridge is a perfect example, deal done by charnley, player satisfied by manager, then goes elsewhere.
        I very much doubt any of this is simply as result of MA saying you can not spend the money.

        • Toonrobbybobson

          He will have worded that so his loans to the club get him out of that one legally. He will have learned from the KK fiasco. Rafa got played.

      • mentalman

        It all depends who is identifying the players we are bringing in, if rafa isn’t involved it could be argued that he isn’t getting the correct tools but then in court it would need to be proved somehow that the players being brought in aren’t capable to perform at some level in the premier league. If he is involved even if it is from the bottom of a list of 100 players then i would imagine a court would find in favour of the club.

        As for the players, they get football boots a decent pitch and a highly rated coach and his hand picked coaching team so i don’t think you could argue that they aren’t getting reasonable tools and training

  • Ram Kishore

    What if chronicle’s lee Ryder’s bosses got mad because he didn’t get a single interview and he just ordered a spin off aimed at the club and players regarding player disputes to get web clicks..

    It could be recycled from last year. Maybe or maybe not
    Media has it fair share of c r a p stirrers and have known for lies is it not?

  • Wezza

    Yet more evidence to add to the massive list of reasons why MA is a despicable man.
    126M TV money – the players got MA that. Won’t even set aside some profit or even Wijnaldum/Sissoko installments for bonuses. The players will be disgusted so how is that going to help their focus for the new season? What a shambles.

  • Lostprofit DBC

    It’s now clear that Ashley is playing games. He hates everything associated with NUFC and is prepared to sacrifice future income to wind the fans up. Could be saving up now to claw back his interest free loan before really asset stripping. Hasn’t even started yet!

    • ghostrider

      How about he’s not about to give a manager who won’t sign a contract, big money for permanent players, on a whim.
      Ashley would be a massive mug if he allowed Rafa to spend his money when Rafa is hell bent on playing games and looking to leave at the end of the season so he doesn’t lose his big wages.
      Rafa is a mercenary who’s saying all the right words for the fans and they’ve bought into it.

      Ashley might be hated but fans need to look a little bit closer as well.

      • Lostprofit DBC

        If he thinks that then, why doesn’t he sack Rafa for the sake of £6m against what he will lose when we go down?

        • ghostrider

          Because sacking Rafa would create much more than paying his wage.
          Rafa could take him to court and create all kinds of shenanigans, not least with the fans who are (in some) getting close to frenzy as it is.

          • LockieToon

            How many teams go into a new season thinking we shouldn’t invest in the team in case the manager leaves at the end of the season??? The only mugs are those who can’t see where the money is going!!

          • ghostrider

            We are investing in the team.
            We’ve bought players in and shipped out those that were not and are not going to be played.
            What else should we be doing as a club?

          • LockieToon

            No we haven’t, the squad is weaker than it was at the end of last season. Any club and not just NUFC would be looking to buy players that are better than those sold to improve the squad which isn’t happening even though the club has generated a vast income over the last season. So why can’t Rafa have the funds to improve the team? Ultimately most clubs won’t have the same manager at the end of the season but the plan is to stay in the PL which requires investment in a squad that is good enough to compete.

          • ghostrider

            How can the squad be weaker when the players we sold weren’t used 99% of the time?
            The squad is stronger because we have players who will be played.

          • gordon

            Please, please just fake off and get something,anything resembling a life that doesn’t revolve around logging in here every day from morning til night. I actually feel bad despising you as you are obviously mentally ill; it’s a bid sad really.

          • ghostrider

            Has nobody told you how to block me?
            You seem to be getting very distressed. I’d seriously think about blocking me and that way you won’t feel the need to converse and wind yourself up.

          • gordon

            Not at all distressed – I’m sitting here on my day off, smoking a big fat spliff and drinking a nice cup of coffee and when my lass gets out of the shower I’m going to bang her brains out. I wonder what you are doing today – oh look, logging into a website using multiple pseudonyms to have meaningless conversations with people who despise you. Byee.

          • ghostrider

            Thanks for the laugh. lol

          • LockieToon

            Do your maths, Mbemba played 9 games, Merino played 17 times… are Schar and Ki better players??? Also as yet no replacement for Mitro.

          • ghostrider

            No need for maths. I’ve said what I’ve said. It’s now down to having players that will play and hopefully not get thrown to the scrap heap or used as an excuse as having a bad back because they can’t handle the premier league and want out.

            Yeah I’d say we have a stronger squad, although I’d have liked to see Mbemba kept…but you can’t when the manager won’t use him.

          • LockieToon

            We need to invest in players who are good enough for the PL and not just buying on a shoestring to make the numbers up. Of course they will play but are they really the players Rafa wants to be buying? We should at least be getting players who are better than those sold. If we go down again it’s down to lack of investment period.

          • ghostrider

            We won the championship and then finished 10th and not far from 8th.
            It gets called a miracle with championship players and all that kind of stuff.
            So what happens if we spend like Fulham?
            By all accounts Fulham should finish above us with what they’re spent. Would you agree seeing as people believe our squad and buys are deemed below par?

            Apparently we’ve spent little whilst everyone else seems to have somehow spent massive.
            So therefore we should be in the relegation places at the end of the season.
            Let’s see if we are.

            If anything I’d say the biggest issue we have this season in terms of relegating us, is a section of fans and Rafa’s refusal to commit and also backhandedly calling his squad garbage.

            I refuse the believe the players will play well under those conditions and soon enough they will want Rafa gone…and so will the fans.
            Of course Ashley will foot the entire blame for it all but still, I think this is what’ll happen.

            I think we have a chance to do something if Rafa commits….or if not…walks. But if he won’t commit, he has to walk now if he values the fans.
            His whining will do nothing positive for this club, I guarantee you that.

          • LockieToon

            If we spent like Fulham we might actually push for a European spot and better guarantee our chances of a top 10 finish and certainly survival. What cannot be ignored at present is the lack of depth resulting in players with no realistic chance of playing barring a disastrous run of injuries and a situation where inferior players have senior squad numbers under false pretences due to a complete lack of investment and foresight (again!!) by Ashey.

          • ghostrider

            Ok, so Fulham should be pushing for a Europa spot, right?
            They should finish higher than us at least, right?
            By all accounts we should be relegated because all other clubs are outdoing us. Would this be correct in your thinking?

          • LockieToon

            I said if we went like Fulham, did I at any time compare our manager, stadium and squad potential to theirs? I’m looking at the potential of NUFC under Rafa with right investment. Like you said elsewhere McLaren spent £80mil and got us relegated. If Rafa had £80mil to spend we would be looking at a much better chance of a top 10 finish and not a relegation battle.

          • ghostrider

            Why do we have to spend 80 million?

          • LockieToon

            Probably because the club has made over £100mil profit over last season and the summer, hell even £50mil would do or at least the income generated from players sales at the very least.

          • ghostrider

            Show me the profit of 100 million from last season.

          • LockieToon

            Your maths really arent very good are they.

            Money in:
            TV – £123mil approx.
            Ticket Sales – £30mil approx.
            Sponsership – £5mil approx.
            Merchandise – £5mil approx.
            Player sales – £40 mil approx.
            Total: £203 mil approx.

            Money out:
            Player Wages: £50mil approx
            Manager Wage: £6mil approx
            Club Expenditure: £20mil approx.
            Total: £76mil approx.

            Difference: £127mil profit

          • nevfur

            So he keeps the manager but doesn’t back him and risks massive losses in relegation.

          • ghostrider

            He has backed him.
            He backed him last season and the season before.
            It’s Rafa’s fault that he chose to spend on everything else but a striker and then scrape the barrel right at the end.

          • nevfur

            We’re not talking about last season or the season before

          • ghostrider

            He’s buying players.
            If Rafa wants full backing he needs to commit.

          • nevfur

            If he was given a contract saying he would get full backing he would commit.
            He’s not bought a LB a number ten or a goal scoring centre forward

          • ghostrider

            He’s getting players in and won’t commit.
            He’s an employee, he shouldn’t be allowed to call the shots.
            He’s been offered the terms a few times and stalled.
            I say Ashley should negotiate a get out for Rafa and get another manager in who can do something with this squad.

          • Lostprofit DBC

            Rafa would have a case of course, the same as Keegan. That’s why he won’t commit. So it drags on and everyone suffers as Ashley laughs.

          • ghostrider

            I wasn’t keen on Rafa’s tactics.
            However I was willing to back him if he signed a contract and go with the flow.
            If he doesn’t sign and chooses to see out his contract then the man becomes a nobody to me, other than a mercenary.

          • Toon Andy

            Owners sack managers all the time, why would that go to court? Haha

          • ghostrider

            Because of the hype and frenzy that’s being stirred up around it…just like Keegan all those years ago.
            It’s amazing what a frenzy can do to stir up a hornets nest and create a circus.

            Let’s put it in s simpler way.
            If our manager was Warnock or someone like him and the very same scenario was happening and he was sacked, he’d disappear out of the door amid a few murmurs.
            Then it would be a case of, ” I wonder who we get in.”

            An adherence to a messiah changes all of that and it becomes bemusing and would be laughable if I wasn’t a fan of Newcastle United.

          • Kneebotherm8

            That messiah being Ashley……….in your case….

          • ghostrider

            Yeah, I’ll go along with that in terms of saving the club from a bad fate.

        • porciestreet

          He dare not sack Rafa…!

      • nevfur

        You either back your manager or sack him. You don’t risk your own club suffering relegation which he tries to tell us cost a £90M loss just to make some kind of point. He said there would be improvements to the training ground, hasn’t happened. He said there would be improvements to the academy, hasn’t happened. He has money available to improve the team but won’t spend it and back the world class manager he himself employed. Point out to me where Rafa is to blame here.

        • Toon Andy

          Well said.

        • Ben Jones

          I agree, once rafa didn’t sign a new contract he should have been sacked

        • ghostrider

          Is Ashley sanctioning money for players?
          We are buying players, so what’s the issue?

          Rafa is to blame because Rafa is putting down his own players. Players he bought.
          He’s also refusing to commit to the club that he says he loves.

          You tell me what’s wrong?
          Is it that we aren’t breaking transfer records or Rafa can’t have his number one players who we never seem to see on any radar?

          • nevfur

            Nothing to do with breaking records, I think if you look at the left backs we have been linked to are available at fees nowhere near our transfer record.
            Yes we are buying players but need more including the main striker that a blind man on a galloping horse could see we need but why if we are going to do it, which I doubt, is it left into the last week?
            Baffles me how such footballing geniuses like yourself are not managing Real Madrid or the likes knowing so much more about the game than frauds such as Rafa

          • ghostrider

            Aren’t we waiting for a work permit for a striker we’ve bought?

          • nevfur

            Yes a back up player, not a main goal scorer. Hope he proves that wrong though.

          • ghostrider

            Oh ok, a world cup 9.5 million back up players.
            I see.
            So he’s back up to Joselu and Gayle…right?

          • nevfur

            No he’s back up to the goal scoring centre forward. Sadly that’s not happening. £9.5M isn’t a top signing these days and he played a part for Japan in the World Cup, he’s not Messi

          • ghostrider

            A top signing is a signing that works and does what he’s bought for.
            You make your own but the sickening game has got so bad that 9.5 million is deemed peanuts.
            How sad.

          • nevfur

            I hope he is a signing that works and wish him well but I don’t think he has been bought to be our main striker. I agree fees are mental now mind, it is sad.

          • ghostrider

            Maybe he isn’t but we’ll have to see how Rafa plays to see whether a striker will get any type of joy from the tactics.

          • Paul Smith

            We’ve spent money on a £10 million striker after banking over £20 million for Mitrovic and yet apparently can’t afford to spend £8 million on a clearly needed left back. I also suspect the striker isn’t very high up Benitez list of targets but like most of his other signings such as Joselu he has to take whatever he can get under this chairman….

          • ghostrider

            The window hasn’t closed .
            Also, what targets was Rafa in for that he can’t mland. Do you know?
            It seems weird how every target seems to be put forward except the so called first choice targets of Rafa.
            How about these were his targets and if they aren’t then surely Ashley has breached his contract and he can walk….right?

          • Kneebotherm8

            Exactly….

        • East Durham Mag

          The Fat [email protected]@rd acts out of malice and pure spite.

        • Kneebotherm8

          Ashley sounds like a liar to me…….

          • porciestreet

            No 5h!t Sherlock…!

        • ZinUru

          He uses the relegation to pocket the cash, then blames relegation when promoted. Its a tried and tested method.

      • Paul Smith

        He did the same thing to Pardew who was on a long term contract… and why should Benitez trust that Mike Ashley would make funds available IF he signs a contract when Mike Ashley already made promises to back him with “every penny” and failed to do so. Why should Benitez lock himself into a contract with a man who has deliberately misled him and failed to back him ?

        It’s pretty obvious Benitez wants to be here if he is given the backing… The ONLY reason he’s stalling signing a new contract is the behaviour of the chairman and his constant dishonesty. It’s clear Mike Ashley is playing games and sadly he has a few people who are falling for it.

        • ghostrider

          It seems to be that we are bringing players in, so tell me, what’s the issue?

  • Ron

    Come on Mike, stop the pratting about. If you want to put us into voluntary liquidation just get on with it and put us all out of our misery.

    • Paul Patterson

      He’s definitely on a cash grab mission . .

      • Toonrobbybobson

        Yep. All these issues with House of Fraser and Debenhams he sees as ripe opportunities. NUFC will subsidise his purchases.

  • Wezza

    David and Kevin Lee, Man Utd TROLLS BLOCK LIST:

    Clarko, Fleckman, Monkseaton, ghostrider, ComeAndTakeIt1836, Mark Potter, Vodkamagpie, funlovingexpress, Nut, Jonathan Gibson, Martin Rooney, mentalman, Ben Jones, Rob Brown, 501ninedarter, your mum.

    Guys don’t entertain the trolls, they enjoy winding NUFC fans up. They’re dead easy to spot. Just block them as it hurts them.

    • Ben Jones

      How wet is this guy^ went to the trouble of posting who he thinks are trolls for ‘the peoples’ benefit, please don’t talk to these people he pleads with others. His pride gone

      • mentalman

        its a list of people who dare to have a different opinion to him

    • Desree

      I bet our players think they are knobs

      • Wezza

        They are pathetic and still post at me even though they are blocked. That’s what annoys them most. They can argue all they like but they have the same IP addresses so they’re busted.

      • Mrkgw

        Do you think the players ever read this Desree?

    • Wor Lass

      No need to block. I haven`t blocked anyone and it`s no bother. I either don`t read what they say or give myself a laugh. Sometimes they make reasonable points which need addressing, other times they talk sh*te – but don`t we all. As long as the comments are relevant to football and the club I don`t care who they might “really” be. After all, you won`t find records of “Wor Lass at Somerset House.! f they`re two/three Manure fans then when the hell do they find time to follow manure?

      • Peter C

        You talk, (or write) a lot of sense, totally agree with you.

    • Andy Mac

      Should be pinned at the top of each article. I saw Clarko in vodka immediately but newbies or people who flit in and out may not be aware. So let’s have a “Troll register” so people can decide if they want to bother with them as they do have a tendency to drone on and on and on,………………………..
      ……

      .
      and on🙄

  • Toonrobbybobson

    Weve seen this before. We are being setup for relegation again. The turmoil on and off the pitch is going to come to a head. Players will be broken up. I now actually think one of Shelvey or Lascelles could be sold lastminute. Ashley wont care hes happy to yoyo. He wants to pull in cash at the moment for himself and his other investment opportunities. He will then just use TV money when relegated to try bounce back. Pig sick of this now. To be held back by the owner who is cleary manipulating the club for personal gain is disgusting. Its got nothing to do competing with the big boys. Its just the club has no interest in progress its just about the TV money to fund his interests. Its just a vehicle for Sports Direct. The only way to be rid of him is to target Sports Direct. Hes rotten.

    • TheFatController

      Having learnt from his mistakes, he’s about to make the same mistake of angering the fans surrounding a popular figure whilst underfunding every aspect of the club whilst exploiting it rampantly for his main business.

      He’s the first to admit he makes mistakes, so he must be a good guy. By making mistakes again and again, he can go and sky and say he has.

      • Toonrobbybobson

        I despise Sky for allowing him to use them as his mouthpiece. We are their customers not him.

    • ZinUru

      Que the Sly Sports interview, we have made mistakes Rafa i’m sorry blah blah

  • Desree

    I wonder what the players think of the trolls on this site.

  • Albert Stubbins

    look on the Brightside- last time the fat man dithered over the player bonuses didn’t we go and win the league? Can’t see the same outcome here this time mind.

  • Andy Mac

    The more the Fatman screws this club the better as far as I’m concerned. As even the “faithful” will find it harder, day by day , to justify their submissiveness. 🤔

    • Angelswithdirtyfaces

      Trouble is that there is a group of la-la fans who will put up with anything, rationalise the worst decision making by the owner, and still pay over the odds for replica shirts. You really can fool some of the people all of the time