Argentine international Federico Fernandez is signing for Newcastle United.

The Magpies tried to get him on loan at the end of July but Swansea had no intention of letting a first choice player go out, unless it was a sale.

The 29 year old then playing the full 90 minutes as Swansea won 2-1 at Sheffield United in their first Championship game of the season.

Newcastle instead trying to get Marlon on loan from Barcelona, only for Sky Sports to report that attempted loan deal failed, presumably because of work permit issues.

Instead, the broadcaster say Newcastle will now be paying around £6m on transfer deadline day for Federico Fernandez, presuming everything is ok with his medical.

A small victory for Rafa Benitez in his attempts to be backed in the transfer window.

With Serie A experience and four years in the Premier League with Swansea, Fernandez looks a solid signing and arguably one that was desperately needed with Lejeune set to miss all/most of the season.

The Mag – 30 July 2018:

Monday morning brings reports that Newcastle United have had a bid for Federico Fernandez turned down.

The Argentine international central defender was the subject of a Newcastle approach according to the Chronicle.

They say that their information is that NUFC went to Swansea wanting the player on loan, whilst the Swans wanted £10m…

With the shocking position Rafa Benitez has been put in, in this transfer window, you can believe just about anything is possible when it comes to transfers.

The Newcastle United squad left short with Chancel Mbemba’s departure and Florian Lejeune’s shock injury, Paul Dummett can also play at centre-back but Newcastle have nobody else who can play left-back (Manquillo not good enough).

With no cover for DeAndre Yedlin either (apart from Manquillo…), it only leaves Rafa Benitez with five fit defenders who are up to the job: Lascelles, Clark, Yedlin, Dummett, and Schar – if he proves to be able to handle the Premier League.

Federico Fernandez was an £8m buy from Napoli back in 2014 and has been first choice with Swansea for the four seasons, including this last relegation season when he started 30 PL games.

Like the injured Florian Lejeune, Fernandez is a commanding centre-back (6ft 3 tall) and looks a decent option if Newcastle could sign him.

However, this is Newcastle United and with such limited funds and so many positions needing strengthening, little wonder that Rafa Benitez has been forced to try and loan him.

At normal clubs, it is usually the Championship club loaning a player off a Premier League one, not the other way around!

What would Swansea have to gain from loaning out a 29 year old established first team player?

He would then go back to them aged 30 and with a falling transfer valuation.

Common sense tells you that they would surely only let him go if it meant they then had funds coming in to help fund a promotion push now.



  • Mike

    6m cashley will be sht bricks

  • Paul Patterson

    If Lejeune hadn’t picked up an injury, there’s no way this deal would have got this far . .

    • Leazes.

      Unless he’s the replacement for Lascelles…. there’s still 2 hours to go.

      • Ram Kishore

        Nice theory

        • panther

          And a very horrible reality

    • Burt Humperdink

      Of course but then we wouldn’t have needed it too to be fair. even now statistically 1 of the 4 centre backs won’t play that much this season. Mbemba played 9 times last season with about 3 of those games at full back. Not to mention Lejeuene, Dummett and Lascelles were all injured for months each of the season.

  • Milburn_Taylor

    relegation is a possibility & what happens then, Rafa will be gone and we could end up like the Mackem`s

  • robbersdog

    Well, we’ve probably got enough players to cover an average amount of injuries and suspensions over the course of a season; unfortunately, most of them are no better than average.

    • Milburn_Taylor

      what happens if it`s Lascelles, Kenedy, Shelvey, Dummett, look who replaces them.

      • Burt Humperdink

        but to be fair you could say that about any team outside of the top 7

        • Milburn_Taylor

          i`m not worried about other teams, its my team i`m worried about, the money is there he just won`t spend it

          • Burt Humperdink

            Doesn’t change the fact that Mike being stingy withstanding we were never got to have a squad where 16 players at least were really really good. Simply because lots of top players won’d come to mid table sides to sit on the bench.

          • Milburn_Taylor

            Mike, is he your pal. top player`s won`t come because they aren`t asked to

          • Burt Humperdink

            Ah yes there it is the internet football fan as soon as anyone slightly disagrees with anything you say, discredit them with BS.

            I’ve already consistently said in my years of posting on this board I am not a Ashley fan. I just wish some of the elements of our fan base would be a little bit more realistic.

            Like all the tossers last year who claimed we were going down when in reality we finished 10th at a canter. Conversely I distinctly remember everyone on here being legit delighted with the signings of Janmaat, De Jong, wijnaldum and co in the seasons where we spent 70-80m only for us to be in 2 relegation battles.

          • Come&TakeIt1836

            If you are familiar with a bell curve, statistically what you are worried about falls somewhere out in the ends. You manage to cover say 95% of what is possible. That is why a second central defender was brought in after Lejuene’s injury. When on a finite budget, you can’t manage to cover all the possibilities. You can’t worry about the 5%.

          • Big Hairy Man

            We’re all familiar with a bell 🔚 …. You!

          • Kenny

            It’s a troll

          • Kenny

            Troll 🤡

          • kingfisher

            Be worried Milburn,very worried 🤣

          • Milburn_Taylor

            I am worried

  • Polarboy

    Lejeune getting crocked really messed things up. I could definitely be wrong, but perhaps Rafa could have squeezed through another attacking player had Florian’s injury not necessitated defensive reinforcement.

    • Come&TakeIt1836

      Yes. I think the desired #10 to replace/push Perez in the starting XI would have been targeted.

      • Polarboy

        And another winger, LB cover, which we may still get, and RB cover. I was really hoping for a miracle in regard getting a number 10/attacking mid. We basically don’t have a central attacking mid. Perez is not suited to that position at all really. I have heard that Ki can play further foward, and perhaps Muto, but I think he’s more comfortable out wide if he’s not playing centre forward.

        • Ram Kishore

          Rb cover and winger?

          U r right we need lb cover and CAM.
          But y a winger and Rb cover.. don’t we have to many at RB ?

          • Polarboy

            I’m not sure how much Murphy is going push Ritchie and he needs the competition. We also need someone with pace on that side, which Ritchie doesn’t really have, who again will be pushing to get in the team. As for RB, who do we have that’s decent that is competition for Yedlin. Manquillo is a liability. We just have to hope young Sterry makes the step up this year.

        • Come&TakeIt1836

          Although your list is what we need, it has become pretty clear the strategy was to increase the squad’s quality incrementally. One out for one in of a slightly better quality with some minor pickups for the squad possibly. The Lejuene injury really was a set back as you say.

          • Kenny

            🤡troll

        • Come&TakeIt1836

          …and we could really do with at least one of Atsu or Murphy coming on strong (not to mention maybe a surprise from an academy graduate).

          • Polarboy

            Atsu has said the he feels fit and ready to push on, so hopefully he’s not talking out of his jacksie. Murphy showed glimpses last season, so fingers crossed. As I said in another comment I’m hoping that Sterry makes the step up, because Manquillo is not adequate back up for Yedlin. There is that young Spanish academy player called Victor Fernandez who’s been raved about. He plays as a forward, so if he could get into the 1st team squad it would be something at least.

          • Come&TakeIt1836

            Yes. Fernández is one I’m particularly hopeful about… and Longstaff. But they maybe further away than this year. Sterry is needed now.

          • Polarboy

            Forgot about Longstaff. But yeah, I’m running out of fingers to cross.

          • Milburn_Taylor

            legs

          • panther

            Yeah hope they persevere with Murphy, I like him, should have got his brother too

    • Milburn_Taylor

      it`s out of control, the poor guy`s having to take what`s foisted on him,
      this window is the final nail in the coffin for Rafa to remain as manager past May next year

      • drc74

        that cockwomble ghostrider will probs try to say we’re not panick buying again

        • Milburn_Taylor

          i ignore him along with the rest

      • Polarboy

        With Ashley in charge he was always going to be gone at the end of his contract regardless. We just have to all collectively pray that a miracle happens and some kindly multi billionaire comes in and takes the club off Ashley before Benitez leaves for good.

    • Taz

      The fat man Mike couldn’t squeeze through a turnstile, the fattwat

  • Wezza

    I will believe this when he is over the line!
    All other clubs watch deadline day with some excitement, more being spent than us… on a single player. What a joke.

  • Megatron1505

    The Marlon story sounds like it was smoke and mirrors to me. Press claiming either work permit issues, or no time to secure the work permit, however….

    1) There hasn’t been time to have a work permit hearing.

    2) We can still loan players from foreign clubs after the 5pm deadline.

    • Wezza

      Exactly what I thought as well.

    • Milburn_Taylor

      he had no chance of a permit

      • Megatron1505

        How do you know this? There are other young South Americans without the requisite amount of caps who have played and do play in our league, without a European passport.

        • Milburn_Taylor

          read the rules, then come back.

          • Megatron1505

            Kenedy

        • SuperDesHamilton

          You can plead a case & get permission for a special case…which would take time, a think Man City did that with Jesus. Obviously the regime here is incompetent so didn’t & wouldn’t bother

          • Milburn_Taylor

            Jesus like Kenedy got permits because of the fee paid that`s also taken into consideration

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Didn’t Kenedy count just as a youth when he came from fluminense to Chelsea

        • Kenny

          Troll 🤡

        • Leazes.

          Probably with dual Nationality which gets around it.

    • Leazes.

      Sounds like last minute desperation to me, with Charnley totally unaware of the criteria for work permits, all he had to do was look up the players record to see if he was a viable target instead of wasting his time.

  • Leazes.

    He played in four games which Swansea won last season…. four

    • Duh

      Yeah, obviously all his fault

      • Milburn_Taylor

        It gives an indication of the standard he is at, another thing has any other club been in for him ?

        • Duh

          Not really, there are 10 other players, a coach that decides on tactics and a whole bunch of other variables.

          On this basis, the whole of the German team should be written off based on their World Cup performance “.

          • Milburn_Taylor

            forget it

        • Leazes.

          What was it that Ryder said to me years ago….’the stats don’t lie’…. well they do…. but that one doesn’t…. they were relegated.

  • kingfisher

    Let’s be honest,the players we’ve signed to date are journeymen and obviously while they have to be given a chance, most Newcastle fans would have reasonably expected us to at least break our transfer record once instead of as usual,shopping in the bargain basement.

    • Ben Jones

      Would you take this window and Ashley gone or would you have preferred a 50m NET spend and Ashley for the foreseeable future?

      • Kenny

        🤡 troll

      • panther

        ashley Gone at all costs

      • Danimal

        Doesn’t really matter. What I’m going to get is this window and Ashley for the foreseeable future.

        • Ben Jones

          Ha! Fair comment

    • Duh

      Yeah all signings seem decent/sensible on the basis that you have no money to spend.

      • Kenny

        💩

    • Kenny

      Trolls will target you

    • Leicester Mag

      indeed like to be wrong but this has all the hallmarks of a cheap CB akin to the inspired last minute purchase last year of a CF – the legend that is the Hos

    • Come&TakeIt1836

      I’m sure I’ll get roasted for this by some but it is fair to point out that Kenedy and Rondon are players who’s value would be above the record if purchased. Although it might be preferable to have them permanently (certainly true regarding Kenedy), they are at least here and which is the most critical consideration.

      • glassjawsh-got-banned

        Rondon is not worth 16 million

        • Come&TakeIt1836

          An arguable point. His release clause was reported as £16.5M. His worth is something like Gayle +£2M. Since Rafa says a player who can kick a ball forward costs £10M and one who scores is £20M, I think Rondon is worth £16M in today’s market. It is close for sure.

        • panther

          Not worth 8

      • Kenny

        Troll 🤡

      • kingfisher

        Spot on 1836.A good comment 👏👍

    • Jezza

      To be truthful the only way I ever expected NUFC to break any club transfer record this summer was if they persuaded some club to pay more than £35 million for Lascelles. I genuinely believed Dubravka at £4 million would be our biggest buy of the summer so on that score the transfer window has been slightly less bad than I expected. Still been an absolute disaster though but.

      • Wezza

        I’m actually slightly surprised we didn’t get an offer for Lascelles, I’m pleased to still have him though! The window, the net spend has been an utter shambles. Players replaced for free, cheap replacements, loans, PR, lies etc etc. Shambles. Ashley out!

        • Jezza

          Nobody coming in for Lascelles was the one and only positive of this catastrophic transfer window.

          • Kneebotherm8

            A relief for sure……

      • FatParosite

        Wonderful stream of conscious that alludes to logical positivism but pragmatically falls into line.

      • Lord

        The only positive I can find is that we’ve only sold players that made no contribution to last year’s campaign at all (Merino aside but seems that one was player power). On that alone, it’s remarkable how much money’s been recouped.

        Our first team hasn’t been particularly weakened but the squad certainly has. We were so lucky with injuries last year.

        Shambles top to bottom. I expected a measly £10m net spend – not acceptable at all but enough to keep the ambivalent fans / press at bay whilst still siphoning off funds through creative accounting.

        Ashley has really excelled himself this time out. And he has the cheek to send out a letter to Government that he didn’t even bother to sign himself.

        Disgraceful.

      • kingfisher

        Yes,totally agree Jez.It could have been worse, but it could (and should) have been a whole lot better.Ashley is an absolute disgrace.Anyone who’s happy with this transfer window should be on medication.

  • SuperDesHamilton

    Begging & pleading for scraps, Fatty is absolutely loving this man! He gets off on this the fat weirdo

    • HarryHype59

      He takes a perverse pride in running this club on a comparative shoe string, whilst hoarding the millions raised from the TV deal.

  • brin mcardle

    Where are our strikers !!

    • Ben Jones

      11am Northumberland Street Saturday

      • Kenny

        🤡

      • Kenny

        Man U or Lonsdale top I’ll keep an 👁 out for you
        🤡

        • Ben Jones

          I’ll not be wearing either of them, look out for people taking photos/videoing, I’ll be one of them recording for my youtube video on simpletons

          • Kenny

            💩💩💩💩

  • glassjawsh-got-banned

    I’ll believe it once he’s suited up

    • Polarboy

      Get on Thauvin’s tux.

  • Alan Pardew

    You have to pay a lot of respect to Mike, we’ve had a couple of phone calls during the window and we could have cashed in on a couple of our players but he didn’t.

  • Mrkgw

    As with all transfer windows under this regime, it’s just dull, dull, dull. Awful in fact. ASHLEY OUT!

  • Kev-82

    Shame we didn’t go for Bryan from Bristol City, £6m not a bad price and we are still desperate for another left back.

    • Milburn_Taylor

      must have been £6m to much for Ashley

  • Stan

    This is a great signing. Rafa knows him from Napoli so he knows how he works, we needed another centre back and he wanted to stay in the premier league. Great move for all concerned.

    • Kenny

      Another 1 post wonder
      Troll 🤡💩 backed up by other trolls

      • Stan

        Everyone’s got to have a first post you slow c*nt.

      • Duh

        The post actually makes total sense.

        The fact that Ashley failed to give Rafa the backing that he should have had, overall, in the window is a different conversation.

        • Kenny

          Funny that, only a troll agrees with you

          • Duh

            You are the one who has nothing constructive or of interest to say

          • Kenny

            Troll 💩🤡

          • Duh

            Righto

          • Come&TakeIt1836

            Stan, the apparent first time poster, had one more salient and on topic post than ‘Kenny’ has had in the string (or maybe ever). Anybody can look down through the comments and see for themselves Kenny’s value to the ongoing conversation is absolutely and very objectively… nil.

          • Milburn_Taylor

            that`s because he know`s your`re trolls mate

          • Duh

            No, it’s because he is a child with nothing intelligent to say

          • Come&TakeIt1836

            So the person discussing the subject matter of the article and adding value to the online community is a troll and the person adding nothing to the discussion and calling people names is a what?

            Black is now white? Up is now down? Inside is now out?

            I think your wires have gotten crossed. You’re defending the indefensible. Think about it.

          • Mike D

            Does that mean Newcastle will be playing in White and Black this season?

  • Kenny

    Must go for a nap 😴

  • SAMTHECAT

    Not convinced at all about this one, and he is 29, Lee could get into trouble no sell on value, Rafa knows him from Napoli, so maybe its ok, suprised we didnt sort out the Hayden issue, no one wanted Saivet, and the u-23 lads apart from Fernandez are no where near Premiership level.

    • Duh

      I am surprised about Hayden too.

      Saivet and lazzar May go to Europe after the deadline, perhaps a loan.

      Fernandez is potentially an excellent 3rd/4th choice cb. Decent stats, pl experience and 32 international caps all at a bargain basement price.

      Who knows, maybe he will start with Lascelles when he is bedded in.

      Failing to sign a full back is a big mistake imo.

      Longstaff May get some minutes this season.

      Let’s hope the strikers work out.

  • Megatron1505

    So…….did he sign?

    • Leazes.

      Yes… according to Sky, he’s having a medical.

  • glassjawsh-got-banned

    well Penfold, did the paperwork get faxed in time???

  • glassjawsh-got-banned

    still have 4 senior keepers on the books…One senior LB not named Lazaar… only 3CBs (as of yet)… 1 player in Hayden who desperately wants to leave… 1 Joselu… no proven goalscorer… and 2 further pieces of hopelessly dead wood (Saivet, Lazaar). not ideal

    • Come&TakeIt1836

      It is not ideal but we were not likely ever ending up with ‘ideal’ unfortunately. Hopefully some deadwood still ends up away in Europe. I guess that is the option for a GK loan away as well. We desperately needed an upgrade in fullback coverage and it hasn’t been brought in. This is the biggest failing of the window for me. I would have preferred a loan deal for a young, exciting striker or #10, too.

      • Milburn_Taylor

        the biggest failing in this window was the intransigence shown by Ashley, he`s not fit to own a football club

        • Come&TakeIt1836

          The bar is a pretty low one for being fit for ownership…expensive but low… and much more expensive now vs 11 years ago.

          I posted somewhere before the window opened I thought this would be a ‘middling’ window and next summer would get more interesting. The way MA is operating the club financially can be great in the end but it can be a bit risky (Rafa is his insurance policy) and uninspiring while it gets settled. Where most clubs are spending on all the future payments of cash (or even beyond), NUFC is only working with current cash on hand. This window represents a further ‘catch up’ from the losses from relegation whether we like or accept it.

          • Westdentoon

            I’m sorry like but I for one don’t like or accept it.
            If you in your world still want to look for excuses & believe that ‘next time’ will be different then good on you, but me in my world, i see monumental failure in yet another transfer window that could quite possibly seal another trip to the championship. Yet again our owner has shown what he is about and if you think the next transfer window will be different then…..coookooo coookoooo 🤪

          • Come&TakeIt1836

            I think it may be different because I predicted it to be so prior to this one starting and don’t have a reason to this point to change. The financial conditions next summer should more mirror the time he sanctioned spend under McClaren.

            I don’t think it may be different just because I hope so. I’m basing it on his own past behaviors such as they are.

          • Westdentoon

            Thats absolute boll*cks in my opinion. Your basing your theory on one transfer window. There have been approximately 23 transfer windows in Ashleys tenure, once he has decided to back a manager, yes once. This one time gives you all the information you need to be able predict that he will suddenly back a manager, who will most likely not be here…Oh hang on, shall we wait out another transfer window as we just got a new manager??

          • Come&TakeIt1836

            His decision to invest had nothing to do with the manager. It was the point in time when the club’s finances were relatively resolved. If you’ll recall, the promise was to spend £50M per window for three windows. That came when the club’s books were healthy for the first time since MA took over. Unfortunately Carr was in charge of recruiting an unbalanced side and McClaren was inept. After two windows of spending (actually…not one), the club was relegated. The financial impact of that is still being felt since MA won’t buy against future revenues. And as I’ve said, I predicted that the club’s finances would not have been fixed by now but should more closely resemble what they looked like at the point investment happened before.

            It’s not based on one window. It’s based on 11 years of evidence and where the club’s finances are and where they should be a year from now. It certainly doesn’t mean it will happen since spending still is an arbitrary decision to a great extent.

          • Westdentoon

            Ah come on man, take the blinkers off, he isn’t interested in building anything with NUFC & if you can’t see that now you never will. It’s one apology for failure after another.

            I respect your opinion but we ain’t ever going to be on the same page so I’ll knock this one on the head straight off.

            By the way would you put your last dime on 50mil being spent in next window?

          • Come&TakeIt1836

            I agree. It isn’t about building something at NUFC for him… at least for the club, manager, or fans sake. He is managing his investment clear and simple. He is being ultra-conservative in his approach by having no liabilities and trying to build receivable balances with other clubs. He only tries (or will try again) to move forward when the table is set. He/Charnley consistently move or move forward at glacier-like speed. What they had spent (wasting from his perspective) £20M more on the same players they got plus maybe a left back occurred but they got them all in two week faster because the selling club became willing to deal faster? Maybe Rafa is happy? That could have been the worst £20M ever saved. Hopefully his books provides the best chance for a ownership buyout though.

            Don’t mistake my explanation as being an apologist. I don’t care for his approach (at least to the severe austere levels he goes to). I’m just explaining what I see through the lens of my almost 30 years of financial management of operations experience.

            No. (And I presume you mean ‘net spend’… Lascelles could go and we replace but that isn’t really £50M spent and likely not an upgrade.) There may be some permanent buys in the next window but the value isn’t generally there and the volume won’t be there either. He also won’t sanction spending just for the sake of it so it is too early to tell what gets spent next summer but maybe not that much net spend next summer either… but a complete 2-deep squad with reasonable quality (no Manquillo’s or Joselu’s) and developing players can stay with the U23s. There will likely continue to be loan signings as the ‘rent-a-player’ option seems to be viewed as a high value, lower risk way to go. Squads are constantly turning over so players coming in and out once or twice a year isn’t all that upsetting so long as the talent is there or upgraded.

            Regardless or either way or whatever…thanks for the respectful dialogue.

          • Leazes.

            Its a troll….block it.

    • Lazaar, Saivet and Joselu could still be moved outside England. Window shuts on the 31st of August for selling players abroad.

  • Leicester Mag

    When you look across other big club rivals i.e Huddersfield we aren’t at the races. Ruckin depressing.

    • Leazes.

      Fulham…. Palace….. Brighton……my god

      • Leicester Mag

        Indeed hence my sarcastic use of the term big.

  • Mirandinha9

    Thank you for your endeavours Rafa, you rightfully tried to suggest to Cashley how much potential was in this once proud club. He failed to listen. When you leave this season, you will go with our blessing and respect onto a club which will provide you with the infrastructure and support mechanisms which will complement your outstanding Managerial skills. In May ‘19, you go with your head held high. If you keep us out of the relegation role, you will have done a terrific job. All the best Rafa – you did try and we’ll remember that.