We are once again debating why Mike Ashley won’t back a guy who is a proven top class Manager with a great CV.

I don’t know why people are surprised. Ashley is the Trump of football. Both have a history of twisting the facts and being economical with the truth.

Ashley is only interested in two things, making money and gambling. He couldn’t care less about NUFC being successful or winning a trophy. He figures qualifying for the Champions League is like winning a trophy. No it isn’t! At this moment in time it would be a miracle – but it still isn’t a trophy.

In Rafa Benitez, we have a decent guy who has developed an affinity for Newcastle and the fans, and Ashley is gambling that he won’t walk away from us.

Rafa is not a mug, he knows there’s limited resources, but he also knows Ashley will receive £100m+ and following Ashley’s annual (untrue) statement that Rafa would receive “every penny generated by the club” he presumably hoped that this time it might happen.

People saying ‘support the club not the regime’ are deluding themselves. The regime and the club are the same person, Ashley!

As long as he’s making money he doesn’t need to sell. He’s got people exactly where he wants them. Even if there were a lot of non-renewals of season tickets there are many thousands who will/have renewed and you can understand why. They may hate Ashley but they don’t want the team to suffer and certainly don’t want them to be relegated, again.

He’s someone with absolutely no interest in NUFC other than as a vehicle to make him money.

As for anyone out there sticking up for Mike Ashley, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

He has not rescued us from financial ruin. If he hadn’t bought the club from Hall and Shepherd someone else would have, and with an owner who had a more football orientated attitude and the crowds and revenue generated by Toon supporters, NUFC’s future would have been a lot brighter, instead of depressing and frankly at times, embarrassing.

Mike Ashley, you have been here far too long. Just go man.

Have you not screwed enough money out of Newcastle and it’s people?

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  • Paul Patterson

    Deliberately shafting the club.
    #Wheresthemoneygone

  • Desree

    Good work Danny.

  • Leazes.

    Nice one Danny… don’t worry there isn’t a United fan anywhere who supports Ashley.

  • Hughie_Gallacher

    There are many who would never say they stick up for Ashley, but they still go to the games anyway. It’s hard to tell what would be the tipping point for these people, or if they would always go even if it meant getting their backsides kicked as a condition of entry.

    • Toontaff

      But some would say stay away and watch he game on Sky?? The Sky money is the main issue.

  • Baffled

    Don’t buy the kit for you or your kids nor tickets to the games watch the games on tv stop feeding fashley, let us get relagated , we have to be together and stop the club generating money then he will sell and Newcastle Utd might take a couple of years to bounce back but we will bounce back hopefully with a great new owner who actually likes football not just money, and if this happens we will be bigger better and stronger than ever UNITED once more .
    1 lOVE NUFC

    • Toontaff

      Watching our games on tv is even worse – you’re actually feeding Sky who are above Ashley in the food chain. Cancel Sky. If no one in Newcastle area had Sky, or watched Sky they may ask Ashley a pertinent question. I don’t subscribe to Sky.

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    there`s a picture of Fatso on the net dated 2-43am Wednesday standing outside a restaurant with a pint & he repeatedly told a fan that no money was going to be given to Rafa

    • Ba ba.

      Aye by ketch…. Al over twitter and some news now sites

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        Yip

        • Your mum

          but we already knew this.

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            not from the horses mouth you didn`t

          • Your mum

            he said it in his interview with Sky that he would not invest anymore money.

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            Iv`e said what iv`e said even though you`re a Troll
            now [email protected]@k off
            BLOCKED

          • Your mum

            So i’m a troll even though i agree with what you’re saying? How bizarre.

          • Soldier

            you`re a troll ok

          • Your mum

            Well done mate, two five letter words there, just work on your full stops and capital letters.

    • Mrkgw

      Peroni by the looks of it.

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        pity it wasn`t poison

        • Mrkgw

          Haha – quite.

    • Martin Rooney

      MAN DRINKS PINT ON NIGHT OUT

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        [email protected]@k off, C nut

        • Martin Rooney

          I’ll think on that for ya and then come back and wind you dimwits up, it’s such a pleasure.

  • Your mum

    I don’t think anyone supports Ashley in what he is doing with the club, but i do think we need to look at the big picture. When he bought he club the PL was a steady cash cow with great advertising opportunities. To be fair, initially he did pump some money in and back managers. Unfortunately they were the wrong managers and the likes of Dennis Wise were just a disaster. Ashley got his fingers burned. Nobody saw the PL changing into what it is now with the TV money and the sending that goes on, NUFC could have competed if things had been consistent with the rise up to 2016 and the spending, but now he cannot provide that injection of cash and has admitted so himself. He’s made a few quid, the club, if in the PL is financially sound. Unfortunately (in the loosest sense) he wants out now so is just trying to steady the ship at no cost to him personally while a buyer is sought. But we are where we are, searching round the bargain bins and hoping Rafa can work his magic. Lets just hope, because i can’t see him putting any more money in.

    • Paul Patterson

      Bo!!ocks! He’s fleecing the club.

      • Soldier

        he`s a troll

        • Your mum

          Not a troll at all, genuine season ticket holder, i just don’t have a blinkered view and happy to look at the bigger picture. I’ve said we all want him out, but you choose to ignore that, which is a prime example of your blinkered approach to things and why you cannot have a balanced view in order to form your own opinion.

    • HarryHype59

      I don’t want him to spend his money, I want him to let Rafa spend the clubs money. Spending the £126 million TV money would be a start.

      • Martin Rooney

        A huge of amount of that money goes on the players wages

        • Your mum

          £112m last year.

        • HarryHype59

          As it does for all clubs! I would like to know how newly promoted clubs who didn’t receive the big TV money last year, can out spend NUFC on player recruitment.

          #wheresthemoneygone?

          • Your mum

            Look at the EOY accounts, it shows where the money has been spent.

          • HarryHype59

            Hi Bobbi, are those the accounts rustling the wage bill in the Championship was £112m? 😀😁😂

          • HarryHype59

            Bobbi is that you?

    • toonsteve

      If he wants out, why is he trying to sell the club at an unrealistic price? (unrealistic on the basis there has been no one in the world populatiin of of over 6bn who is prepared to pay his price)

      • Your mum

        The £400m is about right in todays market, £195 brand value + assets etc. Nobody has paid it, but chelsea is about to be sold for £2bn.

        • toonsteve

          I ll bow to your superior CF knowledge. Why no buyer then. If it s a realistic price, what happenened to the multiple interested parties from December 2017?

          • Ben Jones

            Genuine answer? They’ve seen how the fans gan on

          • Your mum

            Quite possibly. All i know was that the deal with Staveley was all but done and something happened at the 11th hour to put her off. whether this was MA asking for more i’m not sure, but i can confirm that senior NUFC staff had been told that they would not have a role under the new owners and had put their houses on the market.

          • toonsteve

            Which senior staff? Charnley? They don t even have an FD after the last one left for a higher paid job at the airport.

          • Your mum

            I’m not going to name names on here but the house was based in Gosforth if that helps.

          • toonsteve

            So one member of staff?I can t understand why they wouldn t want the services of such a capable CEO?

            Bizarre his first reaction would be to sell his house. Incapable of any other meaningful employment in the North East?

          • Your mum

            one person that i know of. I never said it was the CEO.
            Work in london…..

          • Billmag

            😀😀😀😀😀

          • TheFatController

            Because some sad lad in Manchester is in touch with classy wealthy business people who told him it’s down to the fans?

            Did you meet them in your local? Do they seek lifestyle and investment tips from you?

            Haha. Brilliant.

          • Ben Jones

            You give your reason why no one seems to want to buy us then

          • toonsteve

            So its not worth 400m then?

          • Ben Jones

            It would be without a certain section of fans, with them it’s just not worth the hassle to anyone. Mate you’re a muppet and future buyers have taken note

          • toonsteve

            A muppet. Thank you.

          • Ben Jones

            You’re right it was harsh, I’ve depersonalised it

        • Toonster

          There have been plenty of articles in the finance sections of the broad sheet press on this topic and I haven’t heard any suggest that £400m is about right in today’s market so I’m not sure why you think differently. The suggestion < 6 months ago was that £300m was too rich so adding another £100m when we will now start the season as most bookies' favourites for relegation is crazy. Buying a football club isn't like buying a bag of apples, at the end of the day a club is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. No-one was willing to pay £280m-£300m so a £400m valuation is nothing more than a red herring from someone who wants to continue to reap the benefits of free advertising around the world. Strange that of the woefully inadequate signings the club has made so far this summer one is Japanese and one Korean – shirt sales anyone?!?

        • Toonster

          According to Deloittes, Chelsea’s commercial revenue alone was £122m in 2017 (not including their new £60m per season Nike shirt sponsorship deal!!!). Sadly they are now in a different stratosphere from Newcastle. Their assets (including a stadium amongst the most prime real estate in the world), a top quality playing squad and international brand equity means they are worth considerably more than 5x what Newcastle is worth. If they are about to be sold for £2bn that would suggest Newcastle is worth less than the £400m you suggest.

    • Billmag

      That is the most long winded pile of 💩 that’s ever been posted by a known troll on this forum.

      • Your mum

        Well done Bill, you managed a full sentence there. Keep up the good work, it’s just a shame it added nothing to the discussion as per usual.

  • Mrkgw

    Not quite the time (we have bigger worries) but, maybe the Sir John Hall Stand needs to be renamed or, reverted back to Leazes. For is was he – John Hall, that sold the soul of our great club to the villianous regime. Yes, the 90’s were great but, we are paying the price now.

    • Toontaff

      Leazes would be happy!

    • Martin Rooney

      Villianous regime FFS

    • Leazes.

      What are you talking about……He had the name stripped six years back…. it is the Leazes Stand!

      Idiot.

      • Mrkgw

        Ouch. What’s with the ‘idiot’?

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      It’s been the Leazes stand for quite a few years now.

  • ghostrider

    So, if Ashley hadn’t bought the club, someone else would have.
    Someone else would have.
    Seriously?
    Someone else would have done due diligence and ran a mile….unless it was a Sheikh Monsour type or an Abramovich type.

    Now here’s the key.
    At the time Ashley was about to buy this club, there were very few money bag owners taking on clubs…but those that did wanted the bigger clubs. The Man City type or the Chelsea type.

    We are a north east club that didn’t seem to be on anyone’s radar.
    Sir John Hall touted this club about for 3 years. Three years before Ashley saw it as a train to market SD along with making the club a success to go long with it.

    Sir John Hall knew this and Geordie Sir John Hall was intrigued by it and more than happy to sell.

    Why was he more than happy to sell?
    Because the club was in so much debt, the banks called no joy on bailing it out and Hall and Shepherd could not sustain it, unless they called in what wealth they had available, which they had no intention of doing…obviously.

    So who was waiting to take the club on and for what reason?
    Who, apart from an Ashley or a sheikh type could take that debt on the chin and soak it up until they decide to sell?

    A local businessman like Barry Moat had no chance of buying the club from Sir John Hall but he tried to buy it from Ashley with coppers in his pocket and IOU promises for installments…and then it would have all hinged on the banks willing to bankroll Moat.

    No chance.
    This club was far too heavily in debt for anyone to just take it over.

    End result?
    Ashley saved this club from going into meltdown. Make no mistake about that.

    Of course, it’s all forgotten by many now, because the fairytale of the multi-billionaire Mike Ashley didn’t pan out how the dreamers envisioned it and an adherence to a messiah was the straw that broke the Camel’s back for some.

    I back Ashley and I’m not ashamed of it and I’m not going to be bullied into discarding my genuine opinion on it all.
    I accept he’s done a lot wrong as I’ve said many times but I back him as the best of what we can hope for in this sickening age of money and football.

    I admire him because he’s strong and does not pander to the whim of certain sections of fans and media, etc.

    He knows how easy it is to fall into the trap of trying to chase the hare thinking it can be caught and fine tuning at expense in a mistaken belief it can be.

    We are Newcastle United in the north east of England and we are classed as also-ran by the elites.
    Bigger club cannon fodder for the fauntleroy teams.

    When all clubs have to work within their genuine means, Newcastle United will become a force once again, with or without Ashley.

    Once this club starts to throw massive amounts of cash at transfers and wages…this is when we see the 5 minute smiles and the real latter frowns.

    This way we live to fight another day up higher.
    We have to build on togetherness and fight the fight that way and see where it takes us.
    We won’t do it with managers who spend their time whining and bemoaning the quality they have and yet, expect those players to be happy about being put down.

    So no…I won’t be hanging my head in any shame. Those that spew bile need to hang their heads in shame.
    Those who disrupt the club should also hang their heads in shame.

    Either calmly group and buy the club or walk away from it if your Newcastle United experience under Ashley is getting you down.
    Then come back when he does sell and you can carry on loving the club until something is not to your liking. Then stay away again until someone else comes that may be the dream you wanted.

    ME?
    I’m in it for life whether we spend a penny or a billion.
    I’ll moan and call players who don’t perform. I’ll call a manager whose tactics were bad that day. Just normal stuff…but I’ll leave that for the pub and general day to day football banter.

    • Mrkgw

      Ashley would as soon as chew you up and spit you out irrespective of your loyalist spiel. He cares not one jot about the club – that much is plainly obvious. Massive under-investment, failure to back his Managers, a shambolic series of appointments of which I include Charnley. Mike Ashley is not on evidence, good for the club.

      • ghostrider

        I’m not bothered what Ashley would do to me. I’m not in it to be his friend. I’m in it because I am a fan and supporter of Newcastle United, no matter who is in charge at any time.
        It’s the team on that pitch and the day to day training, etc …as well as the up and coming potential in the young footballers.

        The rest is not for me to spend too much time worrying about…but it makes for counter-arguments on a forum , etc.

        • Toon Andy

          If you’re such a fan, describe in great detail, referring to specific events that wouldn’t be included in a highlights reel, your analysis of last nights game.

          • Wezza

            He isn’t, he is one of the MUFC supporting brothers who troll this site.

          • toonsteve

            He couldn t have watched last night’s game. If you analyse his posts he was posting relentlessly during the game. Odd behaviour for a so called fan.

        • gordon

          Weirdo

    • TheFatController

      Are you codependent generally in life, or is it just Ashley who enthralls you?

      You can get help. Your confirmation bias is on spectacular levels.

      Forget this if you amwork for Bishop or Sports Direct. If you do, you’re making people hate Ashley more not less, so keep up the good work.

      • Paul Patterson

        He types when his carer’s not looking ..

        • Peaky

          With 💩 on his fingers…..

      • ghostrider

        I’m not interested who hates Ashley or not. That’s entirely up to each individual.
        I will simply defend him if I feel he doesn’t deserve the hatred.
        If that makes people hate him more then I have no time for those people anyway, because the hatred goes way off the scale of rationality.

        As for bias. We’re all biased in life…it’s just a case of how many admit it and how many hide behind the mass opinions to sort of give them a sense of some kind of entitlement to feel they are anything but.

        • TheFatController

          Psychoanalysis is best left to highly qualified professionals, I always find.

        • gordon

          Lunatic

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Hmmm, FC, you are just insulting the chap but unable to counter what is a compelling argument?

    • Toon Andy

      Seeing as you’re a proven moron, do you honestly think anyone’s going to read all that nonsense.

      Better off reading the walls of a bedroom in an institution.

      • ghostrider

        I have a feeling you have perused over it to be acting like you have.
        Who proved I was what you mention. You?
        Or did you get a jury rigged up without taking me to trial. lol

        • Toon Andy

          Deflection.

        • TheFatController

          Oh, I think you’re making a good case for it, even if as you say it may not be sufficient proof for a jury to decide upon.

          But you’re getting there…

        • gordon

          moron

          • ghostrider

            Guffaw.

      • MadMag83

        😂😂😂

      • X,WHY,Y MAN.

        Even though you might not agree with him, He is still entitled to his opinion.
        Petty insults and blocking people is just crazy and undemocratic on a forum which runs on opinions.

        • Jezza

          There is a difference between opinions expressed by fellow Newcastle supporters and deliberately inflammatory comments aimed at provoking a reaction by trolls who support Manchester FC.

    • gordon

      Mentalist

      • ghostrider

        I shouldn’t really but I can’t help it. lol.

  • Wezza

    Just the two troll brothers with multiple ID’s between them who are MUFC fans.
    No genuine NUFC fan would stick up for ashley.
    Aliases to block are:

    Clarko, Fleckman, Monkseaton, ghostrider, ComeAndTakeIt1836, Mark Potter, Vodkamagpie, funlovingexpress, Nut, Jonathan Gibson, Martin Rooney, mentalman, Ben Jones, Rob Brown, 501ninedarter, Your mum.

    • TheFatController

      They both have ‘hurt people hurt people’ tattoos.

      A world of pain going on amongst those two, pain driving the motivation to batter their keyboards onnhere all day every day.

    • Martin Rooney

      Missed out Stephen Harmison

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        He is my brother, definitely.

    • Leazes.

      Yes absolutely……All the same person.

      Kev from Manchester…..Noodlebug……. wor monger…..Clarko….High in the Milburn…. Big Sams Black and White Army…… just some of the older names….

      First name Kev from Manchester 15 years ago (he worked there not born there….real name Kevin Lee…. brother of David Lee from Darlington I think)

      Look him up on social media and you will see some surprising links.

      • Jezza

        Yes, it’s all out there. A little bit of online digging is all it takes to expose those two brothers for the trolls they are.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          And again, a liar.

        • Mike Adam

          But you have accused others as being Lee brothers and have been TOTALLY WRONG!!!

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      Wezza, That is simply not true. You applied to Disqus who confirmed it was not true. It’s now getting to a point where you are lying.

  • FatParosite

    There are more than 50,000 sticking up for Ashley…..

  • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

    “He has not rescued us from financial ruin. If he hadn’t bought the club from Hall and Shepherd someone else would have,”

    Well two funds walked away from Nufc, I’m not sure why others would appear and bail the club out.

    If the club went into administration, someone could have picked up the pieces very cheaply and tbph, I still don’t know why Ashley paid Hall for the club.

    • TheFatController

      Not sure how you justify that point of view, when you look at how much debt the Gkasiers created to buy Man Utd.

      Most clubs have owners who create way more debt to buy clubs than we hadn’t debt to the bank guaranteed against future revenue.

      I mean, £70m owed mT to LT when we now turnover £170m annually is a case for administration?

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Of course we’re not talking administration at this moment in time. However in 2007, with debts of circa £150m (I gave you the full figure last week), technically insolvent to the tune of £16m and moreover, seemingly no willing lender, yes administration was likely. I’m sure the bank would have tried to step in but as a PLC, that would have been slightly more complex than the way Liverpool owners were forced out.

  • HarryHype59

    I nearly spat out my tea last night listening to Total Sport. According to ‘Pridey”,Mike Ashley “divides” opinion amongst NUFC fans.

    The consensus on this site and every NUFC fan I know, is that Mike Ashley is despised.

    The pro Ashley apologists claim he has made the club “financially stable”, when in reality the huge income from TV deals have done this not Ashley.

    Perhaps a third relegation, may finally make the Ashpologists grasp the reality that Ashley is a dreadful owner!

    • Wezza

      The only apologists are the two Man Utd supporting trolls with 50 ID’s between them. See list below of their known IDs so you can block them.

      • Martin Rooney

        Ya want ya balls kicked for calling me a manu fan ya cheeky get

        • TheFatController

          Eloquently put.

        • Superdooperhooper

          Who do you support then ? Not Newcastle that’s for sure

    • TheFatController

      Financially stable ? The debt has doubled …

      • Ben Jones

        You’re an idiot. Make no mistake adult thinking isn’t for you

        • TheFatController

          On odd occasions I may be an idiot, very often I’m not. But nice shaming, textbook attempt.

          You don’t have to have run your own company having qualified with a business degree to know the debt has doubled, but I have, and it has doubled.

          • Ben Jones

            You don’t understand which is why we all laugh at the way ya’s go on . Crack on its well funny

          • TheFatController

            To be shamed, you have to give the shamer credibility.

            What credibility are you relying on that I should be aware of to make me fear your opinion ?

          • Ben Jones

            Oh I’m not arsed if you feel shame at your lack of understanding

          • TheFatController

            Younand martin Rooney have the same aggressive flippant tone today. It’s almost as though you were the same person…

          • Jezza

            They are the same person. Just block all of his trolling ID’s.

          • Ben Jones

            People like you think business accounts are interchangeable, 20m from nufc accounts into mash accounts and no one questions it or bats an eyelid, that’s it, it’s gone forever in your primitive mind, no paper trail, nope, just 20m robbed from the club.

            No one can take you seriously, and it’s the likes of you who are keeping buyers away, what’s a buyer gonna think when they see there’s nothing wrong with the accounts yet ‘the idiots’ maintain foul play? I know what I’d do, walk away

          • KRS1

            We all laugh at you, here’s a good one – Ben Jones the d*ckhead tried to make me believe he had a wife. How about that for funny.

          • Ben Jones

            I’ve never tried to make you believe that and have always included the word imagined when talking about her. Are you alright? I thought we were having a laugh bit it turns out you’re all serious and pissy

          • pedrodelgardo

            ooh that one got to you, pick up your toys baby.

          • toonsteve

            If you re going to insult people on here, can you at least try and make them amusing please?

          • Ben Jones

            ^funny

          • Billmag

            He should be renamed Ben Gunn he was a fictional character that lived on fantasy island.

          • toonsteve

            He needs to work on his personal insults. They re way below par. They re not even illiciting a response!

          • Jezza

            Don’t feed the troll, marra.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            It’s not

      • ghostrider

        How can the debt double?
        Where is the debt?

        • gordon

          fickwit

          • ghostrider

            lol

      • HarryHype59

        I know, but one knacka on Total Sport claimed Ashley is doing a good job as the club is in the black.

    • Hughie_Gallacher

      Simon Pryde is undoubtedly aware of his part in the prolongation of this murderous regime. He is now desperately trying to distance himself from his responsibility by hiding behind the odd idiot who comes on his programme.
      He should be paraded down Northumberland Street and pelted with unmentionable substances.

  • Martin Rooney

    Ashley is awful as an owner when compared to those at Man city Chelsea, Wolves Blackburn for 4 years in the 90’s.
    He’s fantastic as an owner when compared to anyone from Leeds in the last 15 years, Sunderland, Rangers, Nottingham Forest, West Ham, Arsenal.

    He’s made loads of mistakes with his part time job, I guess that’s why he’s open to leaving as long as he gets his enhanced redundancy and reluctant to doing any overtime(put any extra cash in).

    • TheFatController

      Comedy gold, comparing the arsenal ownership to Ashley.

    • glassjawsh-got-banned

      he literally owned part of rangers… you just compared him to himself you dufus

    • Jonas

      if it wasn’t for Hughton and Benitez, both subsequently treat disgracefully of course, you couldn’t even use Rangers, Leeds, sunderland or Forest.
      Leeds, sunderland and Forest are clearly smaller clubs (income, support, time in PL) so NUFCs default should be above them, its not a success to be.

  • Toontaff

    With a headline like that, you’d think The Mag would be actually checking who ‘all’ these posters are, who actually spend all day long on here contradicting everyone, just spouting pro-Ashley rubbish. I tried to discuss their defence of Ashley with two, with an open mind, until they began contradicting themselves and at that point making childish replies.
    What I can say, is blocking them has already made The Mag a better read, though people responding to them still takes up far too much space. Apologies for doing that yesterday, but sometimes you need to find out for yourself!

    • Ben Jones

      That didn’t happen, you’re lying

    • Leazes.

      Hurrah…. join the club!

    • Billmag

      Correct 👍

      • Toontaff

        They can finally take it up with Sky, it’s just been on.
        Under Rafa net spend is – 45.1 million.
        Spent 95
        Income from sales 140.1 million.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      See no evil eh? If you just listen to people who tell you stuff you think you know, then you will have a very narrow mind.

  • TheFatController

    The funny thing about Ashley is that he has become so high profile, that the only thing certain about his future is that, when he goes, loads of people will rejoice.

    Be it death, an offer too good to refuse, even the club’s demise and fire sale, one day he will be gone.

    How many people live their life aware that people will rejoice when you’re out of their lives.

    That’s what makes him so weird, it’s like that Scrooge film you see at Xmas where everyone parties around his coffin…what a send off. He knows that day must come one day, I always think it’s why he’s afraid to sell, the media would obviously report on the VE Day-like celebrations.

    You can guarantee the Chronic would have a pull out poster

    • Desree

      Even the vietnam war ended one day!

      • Jonas

        not for the vets with PTSD, it never ends
        I can empathize with that because of fatboy

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    First of all Ashley has not made a penny out of the club so you are wrong there. Yes free advertising but the interest free loan more than balances that out. Secondly the loan did save us from the banks and thirdly no one wants to buy us not one person at a very reasonable price of £350m. Sean Dyche of Burnley has said he was not bought one player as the transfer fees and wages are unreal. We have signed five players and will be more. Rafa needs to get on with what he does best and manage and motivate the players who finished tenth last season rather than moan to the press. The past couple of years we have indeed spent every penny but if money is withheld this year it is because Rafa refuses to sign a contract. Great to see that Chris Holt and Dean Wilkins got it all wrong for the Spurs game in the queue now to buy yet more tickets.

    • toonsteve

      The interest free loan does not “more than balance out the advertising” There is an argument it did in 2008 just after he bought the club but not now. Interest rates on cash have plummeted as a result of the financial crash, both deposit rates and corporate borrowing rates. Commercial income for football clubs has increased significantly iver the past decade (excluding NUFC of course) i would estimate the net benefit to MA to be in the region of 10m per annum. The club are losing about 15m per annum from the areangement. Bizarrely the beneficiaries of the balancing 5m are the othe SD shareholders.

      • Big Hairy Man

        Best to ignore him. He is not a fan. Let’s face it you can’t support Ashley and NUFC. He’s one of the trolls who spend hours waiting for someone to wind up. They are like seagulls outside Greggs, feed them and they keep coming.

        • Jezza

          Spot on.

          • Tino11

            I think Leazes hit the wrong vote button on Monks comment!

      • Billmag

        Just when you think you have seen off your mum, Rooney, and Jones, up pops Monkseaton my god is there no end of them.

      • Ben Jones

        Idiot. We don’t take our stadium with us on away games and fans don’t walk around in replica St James parks, our shirt sponsor is 6.5m(I thought it was 8m) how much is stadium advertising worth now? 2m a year MAXIMUM and it was a lot less when Ashley bought the club(inflation etc), I estimate the sports direct advertising to have been worth just under 20m for the whole entirety it’s been there. Now show your workings

        • toonsteve

          Idiot. Thank you. If you can broker a deal with Ashley to replace all the SD advertising with one of my brands for 2m per year i ll pay you a 20% commission. If you re correct with your assertions he ll bite my hand off?

          • Ben Jones

            That’s his kickback for the loan to the club, your offer isn’t sufficient, make it ‘worth it’ and you may get some joy.

            What do you think the ratio of coverage is between shirt advertising and stadium advertising? Sports direct signage is lost on the attending fans but how many glimpses of it do we really see on TV when the match is on and what is that worth to the advertiser?

          • toonsteve

            You stated its worth 2m max. Therefore if I offer that why would they not accept it. They could (Ashley or Sd) spend it elsewhere and get a better deal. I m offering you 400k pa if you can convince them to accept a great deal. In fact i d go as high as 8m per annum if I can syndicate the deal.

            It its only worrh 2m i m happy to explore a similar deal at a similar club. If your value is correct I m offering you some easy money!

          • Ben Jones

            So why is stadium advertising worth as much as shirt advertising, show your workings

          • toonsteve

            Largely due to the volume of games televised and the viewership of those games. Hence the huge money paid by multinationals for the world Cup, Olympics, champions league etc. I m prepared to pay it and know a number of people who are.

            Value of shirt sponsorship money is significantly dependent on volume of shirts sold. At present the nufc deal looks pricey!

          • Ben Jones

            Surely advertising is all about eyes on the advert though? All the cameras are on the players, players play home and away and supporters walk around with replica shirts, the stadium advertising is limited to home games and the occasional flash of them as the ball goes out of play. Numbers don’t stack up, Bob’s fencing Two Ball Lonnen used to advertise there man, granted the game has moved on but it’s not the mega money people make it out to be

          • toonsteve

            This branding is everywhere. Its visible for a huge proportion of televised games. Look at the unveling of a player and compare the Sd visibilty v the shirt sponsor. Those pics then appear in the national press print and online. The branding is featured in the background of every interview pre and post match and the training ground. Its worth big bucks and at least what the shirt sponsorship is worth at Nufc due to our relatively low shirt sales compared with the big boys.

          • Ben Jones

            Fair enough but I’d still top out on around 50%, so ~3m , quite a saving on the 6% were not getting charged on the 130m debt so for me I’m happy with the arrangement

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Interest rates are low (may change in 15 mins) but commercial borrowing rates for football clubs are still around 5-6%

        • toonsteve

          Lower than in 2008, and depends on security, earnings record and PG s etc.

        • Ben Jones

          ‘Ambition’ + debt – 6% interest every year after = success

    • TheFatController

      I suspect Burnley have their sights set a little higher thrash us as being the difference between why they haven’t and we have signed players

      Yes, you read right. Burnley have their sights set higher than us.

      • Ben Jones

        Glad you stated that again to avoid doubt, could have swore I read thrash us.

        Anyway, so the reason Burnley haven’t signed anyone and we have is because their sights are set higher than ours, finally we understand this transfer malarkey, less IS more

    • Wezza

      Last bite of the Lee brothers…

      ‘Ashley has not made a penny out of the club’

      This is why you are slated and known as a troll. Any true NUFC fan knows that Ashley has made money out of the club.
      Before I blocked you, time after time you would say “Rafa gets every penny” – does it look like he has had every penny? Is this why you went into hiding? Not only because your lies about the season tickets were busted but you were also busted for this as well. You are saying the same thing over and over on your different aliases as well and your excuses do not wash.
      I happen to know several people at the black horse and Monkey Arms and all have laughed at you.
      I think I speak for everyone here and demand that you kindly get lost and go troll elsewhere.

      • Ben Jones

        Last bite of the Lee brothers…

        I happen to know several people at the black horse and Monkey Arms and all have laughed at you.

        He doesn’t even believe it himself

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Wrong on all accounts again. Was in the Monkseaton Arms last night after getting back from holiday and three people asked me to get them tickets for the Spurs game together. Half hour wait then just managed to get them. If you actually know people from the Back Horse or Monkey they will know who I am and mark my words no one laughs at me.

        • KRS1

          LIAR!

        • KRS1

          Everyone and I mean everyone laughs at you

        • Wezza

          That’s Black Horse actually. I don’t know why I am wasting my time but you are a proven liar yourself. Saying what you did about Shay Given proves you aren’t a genuine NUFC fan. Now I wonder why you hate him…. oh yes of course he went to City! A little thing called an IP address also confirms it. You’re blocked.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          I’ve just laughed at you

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        It’s called a holiday not going into hiding. The season tickets was not busted as they cut it off with four thousand left to sell on a match by match basis something you and Dean Wilkins fail to understand. In the Monkseaton Arms every night. You must have gone by the name any O’ Brian as did not come for pint last time.

    • David m

      Let’s take this 1 y 1 .. according to independent Analysis ( see deloittes comparatives of advertising and commercial income or pl , or the excellent David conn analysis) Newcastle’s commercial income is anything between £25-35m a year light … so unless interest rates have jumped to in excess of 25% they are not balanced by the loan even within a factor of ten,,,

      Secondly the loan only exists due to two relegations which each cost c £40 m plus the costs of keegan, wise etc..of course the club had debt when he took over, but so do all companies.

      Thirdly , the argument that Ashley saved us from the banks is simply unfounded. I was no supporter of shepherd regime and believe he was indeed weakening clubs financial position but bear in mind Newcastle were a publically traded company when Ashley took over and the last accounts , while showing increased gearing( not good) also showed more than adequate cash and lines of credit.

      Finally those who wish to ignore published and independently verified facts and continue to regard Ashley as some sort of financial saviour cannot have it both ways… this financial genius paid £130m for the club , so either he was paying for a strong balance sheet and revenue stream which invalidates the “ saved us from the banks argument” .. or the man is a fool who paid £130 m for a bankrupt company

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        With all due respect we were £135m in debt when Ashley bought the club.

        • Jonas

          were not much better off now after 11years of masterful ownership having served up nothing but s**t and cutting every corner, I think you’ll find

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    Mike Ashley is a brilliant owner and I will be forever grateful to him for saving our club from certain extinction.

    Super Mike Hoorah !

    • MadMag83

      Quick get Batman, the gates to the asylum have been breached!

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    Ohhh Ashley We Love You !
    I wonder if the T-Shirts are available in the club shop yet ?, Because I want one to wear around the streets in reverent pride.

    • Hughie_Gallacher

      Yep, can’t wait. Are they the ones that say:
      BALANCE SHEET CHAMPIONS 2007-18?

      • Ben Jones

        Says hughie, who’s chuckied up to his eyeballs in debt and can’t see the problem

    • Kneebotherm8

      They are available………but they’re all fckn XXXL size to get his fckn fat face on them…….

  • MadMag83

    The club will not see another penny of my money until Ashley is gone. I don’t see the need for criticism of the fans that do attend the games, they love NUFC, they’re the same as us, they live in hope that Ashley will either invest, sell up, or drop dead. It’s the hope that gets you.

    Those that support the regime aren’t Newcastle United fans, they’re trolls who support other teams. Don’t let the deluded brothers on here muddy the water, nobody likes the fat greedy A-hole.

    • X,WHY,Y MAN.

      Those that attend games are not doing us any favours though.

  • Toontaff

    Sky just put all the figures up.
    During Rafa’s reign, transfers
    Spent : 95 million, mainly 52 million to get promoted, then 0, 36.2, 0, 6.8 in next 4windows.
    Recouped : 140.1million
    Net Spend: -45.1 million.
    Go argue with Sky if those figures are wrong!

    • Kneebotherm8

      I had it at about a £50 million profit……..plain as day for anyone to see……the man has been starved of meaningful transfer funds………..except the Ashley apologists on here……

    • Martin Rooney

      Think those figures are correct and expect we’ll have money in the bank to spend some more and I hope Rafa spends it on someone much better than Rondon but surely more than that, better than Mbemba and Mirtrovic

      • HarryHype59

        I just hope he allowed to spend it.

    • HarryHype59

      I think accepting staggered payments on players sold, whilst insisting incoming players are bought outright, means the club only sees that profit in dribs and drabs over a five year period.

      This is done by Fatso to create a flow problem in order to justify not spending adequate amounts.

  • Leazes.

    Come on Mr Jensen….you have to do something about this bloody idiot troll!
    At least acknowledge the comment.

  • CaptainCaveman

    “Ashley is the Trump of football”. Not really. If he was he’d have half the fan base supporting him.

    • Albert Stubbins

      Surely it should have read- Ashley is the “Rump” of football?

      • Kneebotherm8

        A boil on the @rse of humanity……….he needs lancing asap…….

      • Jimblag23

        Ashley is the c*nt of football.

  • Desree

    Derek Lamsleezy said ‘you have no idea how nasty we can be’

    The Geordies need to show this Londoner how nasty we can be.

  • Toonfen

    Its like going to the cinema every week to see the same film over and over again its never any good but just maybe it might be better the second or third time round but it never is! ASHLEY OUT OUT OUT!!!

  • Tim

    Seriously can people stop going to the games? This is ridiculous. Why are you propping up this regime? Just stop going otherwise you have no right to complain, this is getting out of hand FFS.

    • kingfisher

      Excellent post Tim !!

    • Jonas

      Its getting there. People who still go after Rafa and relegation I will say are part of the problem not the solution.
      will ire me if they go to a club where it is rigged to deliver the same story with a sad end on a loop but not go to a protest.

  • Mike

    HEAR HEAR 100 correct!

    • Albert Stubbins

      he’s doing tattoo’s now as well? Is there no end to this blokes exploitation of the good people of Newcastle. Man should be birched!!

  • Superdooperhooper

    While we’re on the subject of ashley defenders can something be done about people like ghostrider dominating the conversations on here ? Like a limit on the number of posts per thread? I’m all for freedom of speech but this is getting ridiculous now

    • phildene

      There’s far too many trolls on here now -you’ve rightly named one-and are spoiling this site for genuine nufc supporters

  • kingfisher

    “As long as he’s making money he doesn’t need to sell. He’s got people exactly where he wants them. Even if there were a lot of non-renewals of season tickets there are many thousands who will/have renewed and you can understand why. They may hate Ashley but they don’t want the team to suffer and certainly don’t want them to be relegated, again.
    As for anyone out there sticking up for Mike Ashley, you should be ashamed of yourselves.”

    You say “you can understand why thousands renew their season tickets” and then in the next sentence you say that anyone sticking up for Ashley should be ashamed of themselves. Surely that’s a contradiction in terms Danny? If you renew your ticket you’re for Ashley, if you don’t renew you’re against him simples. You can’t have your cake and eat it.
    When people say ” they support the team and not the regime” that’s rubbish because Newcastle United Football Club is the “regime”. It’s not just about the eleven first team players on the pitch.It’s about the owner, Manager, backroom staff, grounds men, ticket sellers, office staff, matchday stewards, security people, bar staff and all of the other unsung heroes who work hard to make our great club a success and whos jobs are constantly at risk from this terrible Ashley regime.If these people keep on supporting him then we’re all doomed.

    • dannymc21

      Perhaps I should have said I understand their dilemma. All of us want the team to do well and although there are lots of ideas out there about how to “hurt” Ashley no one wants that to impact on the team, or the staff at the club.
      It is a difficult choice.
      I know season ticket holders who hate Ashley so it isn’t as simple as saying, if you buy a ticket you support Ashley.
      There is no easy answer but the simplest would be for him to sell up.

      • kingfisher

        Fair comment danny. The problem as we all know is that he has no need to sell up as long as he’s getting millions of pounds profit,a lot of that coming from season ticket sales.
        You are correct in saying that there is no easy answer,but somethings got to give, as things cannot be allowed to continue as they are.

  • Paul Smith

    Haha I literally just made the Trump / Ashley comparison on the Benitez interview article before coming to this story….

    • Foggy

      Really? You’d need to explain that one. Trump has turned round a country in terms of economic growth with a plan and a vision that has increased GDP beyond projections while decreasing enemployment to unexpectedly low levels. Ashley is dragging Newcastle down until the very life is sucked out of the club while bleeding it dry. I don’t see any comparison there.

  • London_Mag

    The only way forward is death or bankrupcy.

    hey ho least the weathers good