It is a massive help for Newcastle fans, that one of their own, Alan Shearer, is in a position to make his voice heard.

Whilst some media try to dismiss supporter protests, when it is a fan such as the legendary number nine, it is far more difficult to ignore.

Like the rest of us, Alan Shearer can’t believe this transfer window.

Newcastle fans thought that surely this summer would be a major leap forward, Rafa Benitez to be allowed the transfer funds he both needs and deserves.

Instead, Mike Ashley is sitting there having watched on as the club generates between £25m and £30m in terms of net profit on deals in and out.

Alan Shearer asking on behalf of the rest of us: ‘My question would be, where’s that money gone?’

Referring to how Rafa Benitez has been treated by the club’s owner he says ‘Copy and paste isn’t it. I said exactly the same last year.’

Shearer warns that after 11 years and counting of Mike Ashley: ‘It’s quite obvious that is not going to change under this owner.’

BBC 5 Live Sport:

Steve Crossman (presenter):

‘I remember Rafa Benitez being here a year ago and saying “Well I haven’t had the reinforcements that I would like.”

Alan Shearer:

“Copy and paste isn’t it.

“I said exactly the same last year.

“I’ll probably be saying exactly the same next year.

“It was said two years ago, three years ago.

“Whoever goes in (to Newcastle) seems to be having the same problems and it’s quite obvious that is not going to change under this owner.

“Rafa has made a profit again as we stand here, of about £25m in this transfer market.

“What was it, about £120m for finishing tenth last season.

“My question would be, where’s that money gone?

“Nobody seems to know.

“That’s why when you hear Rafa speak, that’s why when you hear the vast majority of the fans speak, it’s because they are frustrated.

“They want hope.

“They want Newcastle to progress.

“When you look at it from Mike Ashley’s point of view, he’ll be sat back and rubbing his hand together.

“The fans want to see their money invested.

“The fans want to see new players coming in.”



  • Mike

    Hear Hear….y doesnt ALL the press ask the same questions??

    • GeordieReeva

      Cos most of them either don’t care or are in the pocket of Cashley!

      • Your mum

        More likely they won’t care. What would a national paper care about a mid table team in the north east. They only get involved if something newsworthy happens.

        • Kenny

          Vermin troll 🤡

          • Your mum

            Kenneth, do you have cards that you choose from and that’s your response? one with a mouse and one with a troll? I hope for your birthday someone gets you a new deck of cards as this is very boring.

        • Billmag

          Showing your true colours there troll.

          • Your mum

            Seriously, it’s not news to a national paper. If something illegal had happened then yes they’d be all over it.

        • Kenny

          Vermin 🐁

          • Ben Jones

            So what happens if we all just decide to do what you’re doing? You think I couldn’t do what you’re doing and turn this place completely into a farce? . Do ya wanna kenny? Wanna make this place ALL about me and you shall we? Wanna ruin this place together kenny? Fancy it?

          • Kenny

            Troll vermin 🐁🤡

          • Kenny

            I’m after your lot 24/7
            🤡 pedo

          • Ben Jones

            Yeah man, that’s what I’m saying, I could say and do the same, to what end? Wanna make this place ALL about you and me kenny? Fancy it?

          • Kenny

            you`re cracking Benny

  • Milburn_Taylor

    another increase in expenditure will appear from nowhere, how he gets away with it is a mystery

    • Your mum

      It’s not a mystery though, it will be shown in the EOY accounts. In 2016 the club only made a 0.9m profit, 2017 £40m loss and last season the TV income would have been used to bridge that loss and repay loans for the 2016/17 season. Hopefully this year we will make a profit but it will not be as big as people hope or think.

      • Billmag

        My god you never give up do you how many times has people got to tell you accounts can be made to look good or bad by top accountants.

        • Your mum

          These accounts have been audited by a reputable accountant. They’re not just made up. It is there for all to see.

          It’s not my fault it ruins your little fantasy world of hate.

          • Kenny

            🤡

          • Same Old

            Wasn’t Carillion audited by reputable accountants? look what happened there. #wherehasthemoneygone

          • Billmag
          • Your mum

            Ah there we go, produce facts and they struggle to rustle the few brain cells together to give a response that actually backs up their argument.

          • Billmag

            Try getting in touch with reality troll the world of high finance is littered with discrepancies.

          • Your mum

            Point out where then, i deal with high finance every day.

          • Billmag

            😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 what a joke. What’s 2×2 then.

          • Your mum

            Point proven.

          • Kenny

            vermin

          • Your mum

            Six letters, but still no capital letters or full stops. Poor effort.

          • Kenny

            troll 4 letters

          • Your mum

            Troll, is 5 letters Kenneth, nice try though, use your fingers next time.

          • Kenny

            🤡 troll

          • Kenny

            I’m after them 24/7

          • Your mum

            Get a job Kenneth, or are you not old enough?

          • Kenny

            Troll 🤡

          • jack

            So were Robert Maxwell’s, and Al Capone’s

          • Your mum

            Wow, you may be scraping the barrel a bit there bringing up one that was a yank and the other that was born nearly 100 years ago.

      • Kenny

        Troll 🤡

        • Your mum

          Full stops Kenneth, come on, you’re better than this!

          • Kenny

            Benny the rat has joined you trolling 🤡

          • Your mum

            You’re not getting this are you?

            Are you not the one trolling us as you have not made a comment on any topic over the last week or so actually relating to the article.

          • Kenny

            You’re on a par with
            Garry Glitter
            🤡🐁

          • Your mum

            A seven letter word, is that a record for you?

          • Kenny

            troll vermin, leader of the pack, pedo

          • Your mum

            Paedo Kenneth paedo, you can’t insult someone if you can’t spell it. Christ, it’s like trying to educate pork!

          • Kenny

            trolling, just trolling. vermin

          • Your mum

            There’s the use of the special kids cards again.

  • ghostrider

    I love Alan Shearer. He’s a legend.
    The fans all love him, so wouldn’t it be great if he could start a fans grab the club back and own it campaign.
    Who better to oversee it and even run the club on behalf of the fans.

    Alan…if you’re watching this, maybe you could think about it.
    Imagine a city all willing to put a few quid in every week.
    It’s nothing to buy the club and also that few quid every week will ensure the club runs, even amid mistakes and bad times, which will inevitably happen.

    Just imagine 250,000 people all pledging £10 a month. Just £2.50 a week.
    £120 a year times 250,000 behind Shearer who would only be required to do the exact same.

    That’s 30 million a year excess money on top of the normal revenue the club generates, plus extra for more advertising.

    What does this mean?
    It means that the take over could go for two options.

    1. Ask Ashley to sell the club to the fans in installments….hopefully interest free of say 50 million a season for 8 seasons or less if the club decides to go that route in terms of success.
    This means that the club only have to find 20 million per season to add to the fans guaranteed input.

    2.Go to the bank and borrow the money on a similar basis but knowing that it may take a few more years to pay the loan off.
    However, it wouldn’t matter because the loan would be covered without any detriment to the running of the club on any transfer basis,

    Now I’m not saying it’s just as easy as 123 but putting it out there and gathering the numbers to work out a doable number.
    Even if it was 150,000 people paying £5 per week. £20 a month or £240 a year times 150,000, still equals 36 million a year.

    A mammoth ask and task but imagine the club owned by the fans and run by legends who take a wage of sensible proportions.

    How fantastic would that be?

    • Ben Jones

      It would be but it’s too late, we’re already primed for sale, only relegation(or looking like) or fans actions can put a buyer off now

    • Your mum

      Until it get’s relegated and people lose interest, then we end up playing the mackems.

      • ghostrider

        Won’t happen whilst Ashley is here but very well could if we get taken over.

  • Leazes.

    The buck stops with Ashley.

    The two relegations lost the club in the region of £180m….

    Relegation were totally attributed to his mismanagement and underfunding.

    Restoring the clubs status(sic) requires money to get his free advertising back on screen so he generously loaned himself £144m to do it.

    He left the bill with ‘HIS’ club to pick up.

    Its a loan…. he then takes the money back from himself, not that it ever left his side.

    All of the while the Sky money sits in an account called MASH Holdings…. that is where it resides out of reach of the club…… who have to go begging for money to be released.

    The club cannot function as a football club….. as is seen by every transfer window.

    • Arty Hume

      Indeed, therein lies the problem, it is HIS club! He does what he likes with it and plays at being an owner while reaping in the profits. IMHO he has had his money back now possibly even more than that in multiples. So what is left to do but keep collecting the golden eggs laid by the Golden goose! There is also the sideline of sticking it up the thick Geordies who dared to go against him years ago, a bully never forgets or can resist another go at an easy target. What disappoint’s me most of all is that those S.T holders who hide behind a badge of shame claiming they support the club while also keeping TFCB in the manner he is accustomed to. If they were to stay away for only a few televised games it would make a devastating statement TFCB is finished at our club and we as fans will not tolerate his mismanagement any longer. I myself can do no more as I have not been to a game since the K.K debacle and will not go back again until TFCB has sold up and Rentokill have performed their duties at St Jame’s Park.

    • Wezza

      Spot on!

  • Paul Patterson

    I wish somebody would give me £25m to just rest in my account to gain interest . .

    • Milburn_Taylor

      more like £30m now

  • Ben Jones

    I know where the money’s gone!

    Ok last accounts had us owed 65m? in transfers and owing 25m? OK

    Rafa’s contract says he can have all the end of season reserves(profit) plus wheel deal money for his transfers , sounds good ok he signed it

    End of last seasons profit was probably around 35m, add in around 15m received from clubs for Wijnaldum/sissoko and that’s the 50m NET spend a lot of people(myself included) expected a minimum of, plus wheel deal money. Ok all sounds good so far

    I think what’s happened next is ashley has taken 25m of the 50m to PAY OFF the 25m we owed for transfers(not breaking Rafa’s contract- the money is going on transfers) so that leaves 25m, I think what’s happened next is he HAS went back to paying all money upfront for our signings but is only giving rafa 20% of the outgoing money as he has kept that in place, so of the 45m of talent we have sold, Rafa gets 10m.

    Adding that 10m to the previous 25m left over means Rafa’s budget this season is 35m , he’s spent 17m so far plus loan and free signings cost so maybe 25m so far, we have 10m left.

    So what’s happened to the money?

    Well , we now owe nothing out for previous player purchases (previously 25m)

    We now are owed around 85m for players we’ve previously sold (previously 65m, minus 15m , plus 35m)

    All money is accounted for with rafa with around 10m left to spend

    What this means –

    still no money has left the club,
    Rafa angry but contractually bang to rights,
    The club has INCREDIBLE looking finances,
    We will be sold & have been primed for it,
    No money has left the club

    I think everyone has been right to some degree in here

    • Kenny

      You’re late Benny your mums already here
      trolling 🤡

    • Peter C

      Hope you have are right, and you have your sums correct, and that we are an attractive proposition, for someone with lots of cash.

      But you can bet your bottom dollar, that the asking price will be more than the figure you quoted, of £350 million pounds.

      Ashley will want at least, the extra £85 million pounds, which is owed to the club in outstanding transfer fees, which you mention, so the starting off price, will be £435 million, and who has that hanging in their back pocket, burning a hole in it.

      I will be eternally grateful if you are right, and we’re looking at the last 3 to 6 months, of Mr Ashley’s tenure of ownership.

      Surely the next owner or owners, can’t be as bad as him, we would have to be, exceedingly unfortunate, if they were.

      P.S. I forgot about the £144 million in loans which is payable, does that go on the asking price, or is included in the £350 million.

      • Ben Jones

        It’s around 206m shares and 144m loan so yes, all in.

        I honestly think he wants shot asap, he knows what he wants, he’ll try to maximise for sure, just like the buyer will try to minimise, they’ll meet so long as it’s ballpark , he can’t afford to not sell, if he still has it at the end of the season he will HAVE to keep rafa (mayhem otherwise) and to do that rafa will make sure he gets what he wants(money-fair enough), as soon as this happens the cash reserves etc all vanish(better squad obviously) and we become a less attractive offer for a buyer(in my view) this would keep him wedded to the club for another x years, no one wants that.

        I’m glad someone read my post and it was understandable , thanks for your feedback :)

        • Peter C

          I must say that generally, I disagree with most of your posts, but that’s not to say, you’re not entitled to your opinion.

          After all, we all have the right to think as we please at present, and may it remain so.

          The one thing that does annoy me a fair bit, is when discussions degenerate into personal abuse and hatred, which I think is totally uncalled for and below the belt.

          I reserve the right to disagree with you, further in the future.

          • Ben Jones

            You disagree with me on a small subject in a bigger subject in a world filled with millions of subjects, there’s probably LOADS of things you agree with me on and you can’t do anything about it Peter mwahahahaha. Feels dirty don’t it

          • Peter C

            Sorry, I don’t.

          • Ben Jones

            I agree

      • Your mum

        Be careful what you wish for.

        But yes we would be unlucky, however look at city before they got the Sheik.
        Ashley could not legally take the owed transfer fees as these are owed to nufc and not him or his holding club. the only thing he can ask for is the loans owed. This will probably be incorporated into the sale of the club, so he would have the outstanding loan + what he paid for the club £135. So already we are up around the £280m mark, plus the fact the club is worth more now the club is realistically valued at £350 – £400m given that the brand value alone is just under £200m + assets + it does turn a profit.

        • Peter C

          So in your opinion, the £350 to £400 million is a fair price. What is the lowest figure, you think he’ll accept, and I am bearing in mind, that he will be looking to get as much as he can.

          • Your mum

            I think if someone came in with £300-320m cash he would be inclined to sell, he’s had cheap (not free) advertising for a while now and that would cover his costs and loans etc. The issue we have is that with every season we are in the PL the clubs value is only going up, so he could ask more and more for doing very little. In the PL it costs him nothing, in the EFL he loses money.
            The only saving grace is that this model is not sustainable, he need to sell soon (this season) as (a) Rafa will leave at the end of the season without a pot of cash to spend and (b) he won’t want to put that pot of cash in, and he also knows it’s rafa that has kept us stable. Another manager would have sent us down last season.

            I firmly believe the club will be sold this year/season.

          • Peter C

            I must say I agree with your reasoning, but not all of it. I don’t think he would accept the figure you mention, he would want more, probably the £350 million mark.

            But as you say, he is far better off selling now, whilst the club is in the premier league, with Rafa Benitez at the helm, then possibly next year in the Championship with no marque manager, and the resulting mayhem, which inevitably will happen.

            However there is one flaw, in your thoughts. Can he appoint a manager, which would keep us in the premier league, without spending much money, and I believe, that he believes, he can, one Mr Sam Allardyce.

            The only sure thing is, is that either Benitez or Ashley will depart, and I sincerely hope, it’s Mike Ashley.

          • Your mum

            I am being an optimist when i say £320m ad yes i believe he will want £350m now unless he see’s us going down if we go on a bad run before xmas.

            He could appoint Big Sam, but he has already been through him, I doubt Sam is his biggest fan. Plus the football was awful under him (not that MA cares). I remember watching us get thumped by LFC when sam was in charge and vowing never to return whilst he was in charge. Dark days, but these are darker.

          • Peter C

            I bet Allardyce, would snap his hand off, if Ashley offered him the managers job.

            Allardyce is only interested in the pay packet, as his stint with England displayed, or should I say his extra curricular consultancy work, which he touted out, whilst in his short time with the national team.

            It would also appeal to Ashley’s warped sense of the ridiculous. How better could he stick it to the fans, than appoint, an ex manager, who’s football was hated by them, that’s not to mention, Allardyce’s past association to our rivals on Wearside.

            It would be the perfect storm, for Ashley to inflict.

            By the way, you can probably tell, I’m not the greatest of Mike Ashley fans.

          • Your mum

            Neither am i, he is a poison. But it was Ashley that sacked SA. So it would take some convincing for him to come. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

          • Peter C

            I said it early today, mark my words, Sam Allardyce will be the next manager, after Benitez leaves.

            Ashley stated earlier this year, just a few months ago, that he was to hasty in sacking him, and regretted it.

            I would gladly do some sort of penance, if I’m right, but I truly hope, I ‘m wrong.

            A hefty salary would smooth over any difficulties or problems, Allardyce would have.

            Saying that, you could probably knock off, 10,000 on the attendance figures, if he came back. Which is the only downside for Ashley, empty seats in the stands, doesn’t look to good to sponsors, and on the tele.

    • Wor Lass

      If your assumption about paying in full is correct then that could be a good explanation. My hatred of Ashley won`t be diminished by any explanation, though, because he still remains a horrible bully, a modern-day workhouse operator and a lying chav. I never thought he was actually sticking money in his back pocket but the eventual sale will give him a very tidy earner (added to his Strawberry Place windfall and his merchandise sales plus a few years of free advertising) which has been built up at the expense of team development and lack of competitive ambition – ie the fans have been systematically ripped off. If he sells up then all well and good but he`s done a lot of damage through his preparations – not least through the discord his shady operations have caused on sites like this.

      • Ben Jones

        It’s the only thing that adds up for me, Rafa’s frustrations but locked in to the contract he signed bang to rights, the low transfer spend, the need to have zero creditors and an abundance of debtors to show a really really healthy cash rich business & the need to get out before facing, for him, Rafa’s contract renewal nightmare

        Thanks for reading & responding

  • Kenny

    off for a nice cup of tea then i will be back to troll hunting, i just luv it

    • Your mum

      Read a dictionary whilst you’re having your cup of tea. We may at least give you some credibility for a nano second.

      • Kenny

        troll vermin, pedo, must have that tea see you later

        • Tony English

          Look in the mirror and you’ll see what you’ve become, gamekeeper turned poacher. Give your shiny red nose a polish.

          • Ben Jones

            You’ve a wonderful way with words Tony

          • BanJones

            Kenny is far more entertaining than any Ashley apologist and you are blocked – byee.

          • Tony English

            PLEASE DON’T LEAVE ME!

            COME BACK FAKE PROFILE MAN!!

            NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO……….

            (why can’t I make that font massive)

            Never said a word in support of Ashley in my life. I have no massive cups and sneer at folk with those massive SD bags.

            Idiot.

  • Wezza

    Well said Al.
    We know where the money has gone – in MASH Holdings or one of his other holding accounts.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      But it’s not.

      • Your mum

        We know that, but those who just believe rumours and read headlines don’ have the capacity to do their own research.

  • Jimblag23

    It’s got to the point where I just see a sea of “this user is blocked”.
    Satisfying to know in the main the trolls are just chatting to each other now.
    The Mag is a more pleasant place to be with them silenced.

    • Ben Jones

      If any readers can think of anything else that will help shield this man from opinions that differ to his own please help him

    • skarabrae

      Couldn’t agree more, I’ve blocked them all 😂😂😂

      • Jimblag23

        I love how one has replied below, not failing to grasp the point we’re making 😂

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          Say something relevant and you will get your wish.

    • Leazes.

      it is… and it annoys them too!

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Does it? I still see your opinion, I still rip it to bits if I can be bothered.

        Your gang is not exactly filled with the brightest of sparks is it?

      • Jezza

        Too true. Ignoring them hurts them far more than any amount of abuse and insults hurled their way. Everybody just block them.

  • Leicester Mag

    Another point Alan could make is give up the Exec box he has. His choice but it would send out a strong message.

    • Leazes.

      Didn’t he give it up a couple of years back when he said none of his mates wanted to go?

      • Your mum

        No he still has it.

  • phildene

    Well said Alan! Nice one

  • toni nesbitt

    the money went fund ashleys 50 million loan to house of fraser

  • Lostprofit DBC

    Thankyou Alan, this is the question that all pundits and journalists should be asking. It wouldn’t be allowed to happen at Spurs or Arsenal. This is also why new buyers are hard to find, negative press in respect of the fanbase.

  • Wor Lass

    All this “troll” stuff is doing my head in. This sort of site is suppossed to be for discussion and exchange of views – all views. If someone writes something that seems to support Ashley in any fashion it doesnt automatically make them a troll. It may mean they`re a little hard of thinking or just naive but if you think someone is a troll then either just ignore them or block and ignore them. I`ve always been of the view that anyone should be able to express their opinion and it will then be up for discussion. Where opinion is expressed on a serious topic related to, say, the players or the club finances then read it and respond accordingly. If you disagree then take the argument up and show them why they`re wrong. If the comment is peurile nonsense with the sole intention of winding someone up then don`t dignify it with an answer – that`s what they`re after. I don`t want to be scrolling through 15 vertical metres of clown faces and childish ripostes to see if there`s a comment worth reading

    • Wezza

      When they state that ‘Rafa gets every penny’ and ‘MA has made no money’ then they are trolling pure and simple. The Lee brothers are dead easy to spot. They thrive off winding us up. Just ignore them.

      • Your mum

        The thing you are missing is the fact that rafa will be getting every penny of profit, it’s just that the club is not making much profit. Thats where ashley has played him. No trolling here, just giving my insight from a business perspective.

        • Damon Horner

          Why is it not making that much profit? What expense does our club have that is alarmingly higher than our peer clubs?

          • Billmag

            Be careful Damon he’s a financier you know.

          • Your mum

            Or just someone with a balanced view.

          • Ben Jones

            And what do you know?

            OK defeat this argument..

            Back pocket

            Go on smart ar5e…

          • Your mum

            Sorry, do you have that in English?

          • Ben Jones

            My mistake. Won’t happen again

          • Your mum

            Sorry, i thought that was Bill Mag responding which is why i didn’t take it in the right context. Apologies.

          • Your mum

            We pay a lot in wages for average players. However we pay up front for players (mostly, currently owe £24m) so we will receive payments in dribs and drabs over 4 years or so and have to pay up front, so whilst we have £20m/year for instance coming in, we may spend £50m in a window and eat into the profit which would have been generated by tv money etc. So it looks like we don’t create a lot of profit, however our finances are sound. We don’t really have huge expenses that others don’t, we just don’t operate in a world of debt.

          • Danimal

            That’s ridiculous.

          • Your mum

            You may consider it ridiculous, but that is exactly how the club is run.

          • Danimal

            Correct on both points, thanks.

          • Jonas

            Ashley wouldn’t be here if it was not making profits.
            the kind of bloke he is.

      • Wor Lass

        If you block them all why does it matter what they say and how do you know anyway?

        • Wor Lass

          The last few days on here has been ridiculous. Do the Lee brothers exist? Leazes says so so they probably do. Are they all of the characters that they are accused of – Monksatan, Clarko, Bobbi, yourmum, vodkamagpie, Ben Jones et al? I really don`t know and, frankly, I don`t much care. This whole site (and the Comical) is populated by multiple personalities of all persuasions. Some I like and some I don`t. Some of the ones I like I don`t agree with and some of the ones I dislike I do agree with. I`ve decided that I`ll just read the comments and respond to them if they`re worth it.

          • Leazes.

            Do you want to know why ‘fleckman’ is so called or ‘monkseaton’….. he’s trolling me and has done for years… he picks up little bits of what he believes is personal information and bingo you get a name…. the same as you did with ‘wor Lass’…. its not the first names he’s done, he also did ‘Mad Doctor’ and tons of others, I did send him on a lot of wild goose chases!

            The current crop of names well he’s picked up on my perceived links with a heavy metal band from ‘monkseaton’, thus ‘Bobbi fleckman’…. its not a real link at all I give him something to bite on with a bit of embellishment but he stuck with it.

            ….silly really…he’s making himself know to me as a troll, but he’s been there for 14 years and the chances of anything sensible are minimal because he was backing Shepherds misrule before Ashley came along.

            ….Trolls want attention.

          • Tony English

            A sure sign of madness is putting yourself at the centre of everything and thinking the world (real or virtual) revolves around you…

            …when someone has a different opinion…it’s not about you…not someone “trolling” you…you offer no kudos or wealth or notoriety, you have no stalkers, you have no trolls…you’re just another poster on a message board, you’re no big deal.

            …paranoid ringleaders want attention.

          • Ben Jones

            Yeah, alarming that post, erm, yeah

    • Tony English

      A prominent ‘paranoid’ on here decided to write a nice post in response to an opinion piece I wrote. He’d went to the trouble of researching the day I first appeared on this site (the same day he blocked me coincidentally) as I’m now deemed to be no longer a Lee Brother, I’m now some other writer…

      …honestly, why bother spending the effort, I’m sure there are more important things to do….I’d rather be cleaning the toilet than waste my time engaging in accusing folk of being someone else…and researching it…

      The truth is I don’t know who any of you are (apart from one lad I went to school with thirty years ago) so pretend away…why care?

    • Billmag

      C’mon Wor Lass can you seriously believe anyone that supports Ashley is an NUFC supporter after the downright damage he’s done to this club in the past 11 years, I wrote in a previous post that everyone should have the right to an opinion but I have changed my mind on that now because of the way the so called troll’s highlight how good fatty is.

      • Wor Lass

        I hate Ashley and I`ve outlined some of the reasons why on a couple of other posts on this thread but I know a few people – fans of the club – who don`t. Not totally, anyway. They say things along the lines of, “At least the books are healthy” or “At least we`re not where Sunderland are” etc. When mates of mine say things like that I don`t tell them they`re trolls and refuse to speak to them, I argue the case. I know there`s more than that going on here but ANYONE who comes on and says ANYTHING remotely construed as favourable to Jabba is immediately labelled a troll. What I`m saying is either ignore them, if they`re just being wind-up merchants or respond to their arguments if they`re putting one forward. This whole fiasco is just an example of the damage Ashley has caused because we`ve nowt better to do than turn on each other in the face of his deliberate incompetence in the transfer market.

        • Billmag

          Fair enough.

        • Superdooperhooper

          I agree with a lot of what you say but I have one problem. I have never heard anyone say anything positive about ashley and I’m an ordinary working class geordie who has worked in several different factories on tyneside . Anyone looking at the comments section here would think opinion was divided on ashley. Either they’re very quiet in person or there’s very few of them and they go shouting their mouths off on here under multiple aliases

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      Too right, we have our differences and I’d hope the discussion is all the better for it.

    • Hughie_Gallacher

      Frankly, life is too short to engage the trolls in debate. If you don’t know what their game is after 11 years, you never will.
      Stuff them.

      • Leazes.

        Absolutely right.

      • Wor Lass

        Great attitude, m8!

    • Jezza

      There is a world of difference between misguided Newcastle supporters voicing unpopular opinions and two Manchester supporters posting deliberately inflammatory and provocative comments under 40 odd different ID’s for the express purpose of upsetting people and stirring up a reaction.

      • Tony English

        There is also a world of difference between having an opposing opinion (or being accused of an opinion you’ve never even held or voiced) and being provocatively accused in an inflammatory manner of being an alias of someone you’ve never even heard of, which inevitably moves the conversation away from the reason we are here and into the realms of paranoia and alleged troll baiting. The more you talk about it, the more you encourage it.

        Personally I take everyone on face value – I agree – I disagree – if someone wants to be a wind up – whatever – doesn’t raise my heart rate a single beat.

        But this troll conversation perpetuated by the self appointed guardians of the message board is an absolute bore.

  • Mrkgw

    I really hope that supporters rise against this regime. It worked for West Ham who are spending freely at the moment. ASHLEY OUT!

  • Lostprofit DBC

    Primed for takeover, dream on. If Ashley really wanted to sell this was the time. The accounting of the missing millions could have been avoided. A deal could have made allowance for debts without risking another relegation.

  • BanJones

    Season ticket money+Prize money+transfer income this season+ installments from previous transfers out+ sponsorship money+ other revenues = a few loan deals
    Ssip the kcuf off you fat piece of etihs

  • Wezza

    Does anyone think past players staggered instalments get paid directly into a holdings account? That’s why nothing is ever heard from them again? 10M this summer for Wijnaldum and Sissoko instalments.

    • Leazes.

      All of United’s money goes to the parent company MASH Holdings

    • Your mum

      You can’t do that by law. The contract and agreement will be with the club and their accounts only. You can actually see the income in the EOY accounts .

  • Jonas

    Where has all the money gone over the years? The years of successive profits, now, doesn’t get reinvested and doesn’t touch the debt.
    Needs investigated, and the question should be at the forefront.
    it may even concern mps, the FA, sky and the PL.

    • Jezza

      …not to mention the Fraud Squad.

  • SAMTHECAT

    Its the policy of paying up front for buys and selling in instalments, so we probably got 5m in the bank for Mitro, and its what is in the bank that presumably the every penny quote relates to but any club that has a wage bill that increases when it gets relegated is clearly mis-managed and there should be instalments been received from previous transfers.
    Its clear that Rafa wasnt given a transfer or wages budget and is in the dark on transfers, its like take it or leave it, then when Rafa has to say yes, Charnley says Rafa has the final say on transfers.
    Charnley is thinking keep my head down and if the club is sold at least i will get a job at SD.

  • MadMag83

    It’s all part of the plan. Get the club relegated again, the club then “owes” Ashley more money in the form of “interest free loans”. Thereby increasing the clubs dependency on Mike the Messiah. Then at some point in the future he can call the loan in, the club can’t pay it back because he’s driven it into the ground, so he takes ownership of SJP into the hands of some holding company and has it demolished for redevelopment.

    • Your mum

      The interest free bit is where your delusion falls down. Ashley also can’t develop on the SJP land as it is leased to the club and not owned.

      I’m not even sure why I gave your post the time to respond actually.

      • MadMag83

        Calm down, it was written tongue in cheek. Not meant to be taken literally or seriously, a bit of surrealism.

        Your urge to respond was perhaps driven by your love of Mike the Messiah, I’m not sure, I can’t help you with that I’m afraid.

        • Your mum

          No I really can’t stand the guy. Unfortunately I mistook your tongue in cheek comment for another fan with blinkers on.