On Sunday we asked the simple question: As a Newcastle fan would you rather see England win the 2018 World Cup or NUFC lift this coming season’s League Cup?

We now have the result below but firstly, this is how we presented the two sides to the argument.

What wins, club or country?

The Mag – Sunday 8 July 2018:

‘England win 2018 World Cup or Newcastle win League Cup – What would you choose?’

It is a easy question to ask when everything is hypothetical but this summer is turning everything on its head.

Gareth Southgate and his players progressing with minimum fuss to the World Cup semi-finals, thanks to a comprehensive 2-0 victory over Sweden.

With a very winnable semi-final against Croatia to look forward to on Wednesday night, a first final for the national team in 52 years is very much a possibility.

If successful, France or Belgium will be the other finalists, both of which are very good teams but not unbeatable.

The country is having a ball, coming together with a united dream, the football could really be coming home…but would you swap all of that for Newcastle winning the League Cup?

Would you take victory for Newcastle in the 2019 League Cup, over national triumph in the 2018 World Cup?

You would need to be knocking on 60 to have any kind of a decent recollection of either Newcastle or England winning a trophy, so most of us can’t say we have seen one or the other, so happy to forego seeing either thing happen.

We dream of seeing Newcastle winning a trophy, any trophy, but would you give it up for the nation?

Speaking to a Manchester United supporting mate in the pub during yesterday’s win over Sweden, he thought I was joking when I said many Newcastle fans wouldn’t go for the World Cup option.

How can you explain to somebody who has seen their club win so many trophies, what it would mean to see your club win anything for the first time?

So what would you select if you had the choice?

The Result:

Thanks to everybody who voted and this is the final count:

37% England win the 2018 World Cup

63% Newcastle United win the 2019 League Cup

Bottom line is we love our country but love Newcastle United more!

Never mind 52 years of hurt, it will be 50 years this coming season since NUFC won anything, one day…



  • kingfisher

    I could’nt give a toss about England.I’ve never watched any world cup game and to see everyone jumping on the bandwagon is just pathetic.Those people hanging flags from their windows and driving around with flags on their cars are just embarrassing.
    And what about the tv coverage? 3 hours per game, 90 minutes of football and 90 minutes of absolute drivel by so called experts.Surely 15 minutes before and after the game would suffice but no,the tv companies are competing with each other with the result of hours and hours of unmitigated rubbish.

    Yes, I would rather Newcastle won a trophy than England,to be honest, I would rather Sunderland won something than England !

    • Geordiegiants

      No way that is taking thepiss

      • kingfisher

        Not in the least Geordie, that’s just the way I feel.And I’m not alone, lots of people are sick and tired of the constant hours upon hours of inane rubbish being spouted before and after the game and the constant obsession with England.

        • Geordiegiants

          I was on about the Mackem bit.

          • kingfisher

            Your right of course Geordie.My apologies for the Mackem comment ,totally out of order. I blame the weather
            ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž

          • Geordiegiants

            Ha ha lol. Not the beer from the weekends hangover on Saturday then. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      I haven`t jumped on any bandwagon, i have no flags flying, i do not have an England shirt & my expectations of England have always been the same as they are for Newcastle which is virtually Zilch, but when they play i`ll support them both.

      • kingfisher

        Fair comment Moose.I find it hard to continue to support Newcastle with all the trials and tribulations with the Ashley regime, and the false promises,but find it even harder to watch and support England.The constant over hyped media and fan expectation and false Nationalism is embarassing to say the least.

        • MichaelMaximusMoose

          Over hype, yes & Fatso will never change that`s why he must be driven out

      • paul mclaughlan

        One positive voice in a sea of negativity.

    • Mark Davies

      You’d rather see the inbreds win something than your country? Wow! Im have had no great affinity with England since 1990. The Premier League pre madonnas spoilt any true feeling towards supporting the national team but the world cup is a great competition and theres no shame following the nation in such an event.

      I do share your annoyance with the bandwaggon jumpers though. The same sort who would want tickets for a cup final if Newcastle ever got there. As for the tacky flags on cars etc, again I fully agree. Im sick of hearing it contsantly mentioned on the radio etc too!

      However back to your last point and its one I cant ever, ever, ever agree with. Id rather Scotland won a world cup than the mackems won anything including youth cups, meat draws or a cheesy chips raffle!

      • kingfisher

        Well said Mark.I suppose it was a step too far about the Great
        Unwashed.Like you,I just get sick and tired of the over hyped media/fan reaction to England.
        Let’s not forget these are the same media outlets and fans who will stick the knife into the England players and Manager at every opportunity. The English players will be given dogs abuse at grounds around the country when they play for their respective teams.Double standards? yes definitely, but that’s what this modern plastic age of football is all about.

        I remember watching the World Cup Final live in 1966 aged 13.Wide eyed and innocent, now, some 52 years later that hope and expectation and love of football has been gradually eroded away.The main reason for my apathy is supporting Newcastle for 60 years. I Suppose it does make you a tad negative. ๐Ÿคฃ

        • Mark Davies

          Think we are all a tad negative mate due to the way our great club has been treated. Give me a league cup, a derby win or even a decent run in the Europa league any day over England winning the world cup.

          But while they are in it Ill egg them on (as support is too strong a word, I only love and support one team) and hope for the best. May be the only way a team im associated with can win something in my lifetime! The straws we have to grasp at sometimes.

        • Rich Lawson

          Does put a dent in your day !!

    • Paul Patterson

      What?!

    • Peter C

      I wouldn’t go as far as that, with reference to your comment, regarding Sunderland. But the bit about the tv coverage, is spot on.

      • kingfisher

        Fair comment Pete.I must admit the comment about Sunderland was over the top ๐Ÿ˜

        • Peter C

          Somewhat more, than over the top.

    • Scottie Chugger Dearden

      I thought I was the only one who thought like that good to know there are others out there, although I draw the line at Sunderland winning something thats like a Scotsman saying he wants England to win the World cup!

      • kingfisher

        Aye Scottie, you definitely do not stand alone. The media would have us think that the whole country grinds to a halt when England play but there are actually a lot of people who just don’t give a toss about England.(Especially of course our neighbours from North of the border,)๐Ÿ˜Ž

  • Paul Patterson

    It’s easy to jump on a bandwagon, but it would be great to see England win the World Cup. I don’t think any Newcastle fan wishes England to do badly, but England when I was a kid was the icing on the cake, the euphoria of the country in 96 after we’d narrowly missed out on the title, followed up by Shearer signing, it was great. But when Newcastle aren’t doing so well, England becomes a distraction and not a nice one. I’ll be glued to the tv on Wednesday (and hopefully Sunday) but when the season kicks off against Spurs a WC win will be at the back of my mind and I’ll hope Kane/Ali etc are crocked . .

    • Leazes.

      I hope they lose, its a southern team, not a single player from the North.

      • Megatron1505

        ๐ŸŽฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

      • kingfisher

        Well said Leazes.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

      • paul mclaughlan

        True if youโ€™re saying not a single player from north of the Tyne.

        • Leazes.

          yup

      • Rich Lawson

        It’s a harmless distraction tho and football to watch thru’ the summer,got to be better than cricket and love how nobody seems remotely interested in the tennis !

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        Idiot

        • Leazes.

          Cheers

    • paul mclaughlan

      Agreed. Cโ€™mon England ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ (for now).

  • Fisherking

    Although i wish England well i just cannot get up for England games I have enough to worry about with deadline day around the corner for my beloved Newcastle United itโ€™s hard enough supporting one team never mind two league cup would do nicely for me and I could die happy

    • kingfisher

      My thoughts exactly Fisherking ! Well said

    • Peter C

      And other supporters and the media, persistently say Newcastle fans have high expectations, and are overly demanding.

      Woe and trice woe, as Frankie Howerd used to say on “Up Pompeii”, it’s so very hard, being an Arsenal or Man U supporter, if they only knew, how the everyone else lived, the poor souls.

  • SwissTony

    It’s not a “band wagon” to support your nation. People need to stop saying that. Can I remind Newcastle fans it’s the “League Cup” and not the FA Cup, which wouldn’t make the slightest difference to me, personally, but League Cup over World Cup? You’re having a laugh…?

    • Paul Patterson

      As soon as England do well, chavs who normally couldn’t give a s**t, women who dislike sport, families who keep their kids indoors on hot days and elderly people who missed out in 66 because they didn’t care, immediately take it upon themselves to go down the pub or attend a mass screening just to seem relevant and witness something.
      That’s a bandwagon . .

      • kingfisher

        Absolutely spot on Paul.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Given the choice of either England winning the World Cup or Newcastle beating Spurs in the opening game,there’s only one winner (sorry Harry).

        • paul mclaughlan

          Cโ€™mon England ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ.

      • Mark Davies

        Very well said. My local were turning regulars away when England were on because of all of these band wagon jumpers! As any of them to name a score in the qualifiers and see the blank look you’ll get!

        Worst example I have seen so far was a 60ish year old bloke in the airport last week with his freshly shaved leg and his shiny new England tattoo! FFS, Ill stick with my 80’s NUFC, now pretty well faded one thanks muchly!

        Also, can someone please ban that bloody “its coming home” song.

      • paul mclaughlan

        Im afraid all those groups of people have been jumping on the bandwagon since 1990. I blame New Order.

        • Rich Lawson

          It’s not a patch on 3 Lions,my local has been offering free shots to anyone who can do that John Barnes rap in full at half time in any England game since the group stages and haven’t had a single taker.

          • Vincent Gigante

            Ha ha ha ha the Lightning Seeds versus New Order.
            Only ever gonna be one winner there !

      • Big Al 1967

        Exactly right Paul. Ask these plastic fans in 2 months time what they think of the beautiful game and the response will be ‘Nope, hate it, a game played by overpaid Prima Donnas’

    • Lord

      I guess winning the World Cup would be like making love to a beautiful woman, eh, Swiss Toni?

    • Big Al 1967

      If that’s the case then you and the other ones who want England success over NUFC winning the League Cup should have no problem in NOT applying for a ticket and allowing those who would give anything to see Jamaal lift the trophy at Wembley first access to a ticket
      That is only fair if NUFC are not your first football priority

      • paul mclaughlan

        Absolute nonsense. You can support your club and country. Makes you no less of a fan.

        • Big Al 1967

          But the question is Club OR Country, that’s the key no AND, straight choice as to which you put first

          • paul mclaughlan

            Sorry shouldโ€™ve been a bit clearer with my response. Saying Toon fans should forgo applying for a league cup final ticket (in the remote chance we ever reach one) just because theyโ€™d rather England win the World Cup is ridiculous.

  • Toon

    Why you even debating this? The question was thought up by a simpleton and is totally pointless

  • paul mclaughlan

    Iโ€™m greedy, Iโ€™d love both.

    • Leazes.

      That’s because you can be no more than a fifth generation ‘Geordie’ with no Reiver heritage, and no Northumbrian instinct….. like Ryder who is only second generation…. you are the Espanyol de Barcelona.

      • paul mclaughlan

        My maternal grannie was an Elliot proper Reiver heritage.

  • Jomaa

    I cant believe the question need even be asked.
    I’d rather Newcastle win a game against anybody than England win the world.cup, even when i sort.of.supported England.