Rangers fans have had plenty of experience of Mike Ashley.

Their supporters seeing the SD supremo helping to drag their club down due to his part ownership and grip on the merchandise side of the club.

With the launch of #IfRafaGoesWeGo and growing unrest amongst Newcastle supporters as they try to end the tyrannical 11 year grip he has had on NUFC, Rangers fans have been talking about the situation at St James Park.

Interesting to see what they are saying in the blue half of Glasgow but you do have to accept that the situations at the two clubs are very different, though with some similarities.

The sheer scale of the money involved and what Mike Ashley gains at Newcastle United, is on a totally different level to what was the case at Rangers.

The TV/prize money in Scotland is quite literally pennies compared to what Ashley can bank from the Premier League.

When in the Championship in 2016/17, Newcastle United’s £41m parachute payment for that season was more than ALL of the Scottish Premier League clubs received that year in TV/prize money from their participation in the league. Newcastle also got around £6m extra that season in Championship prize money on top of the parachute money.

Of course, the main reason Mike Ashley wants to keep control of Newcastle United is the worldwide free TV coverage that he gets for his retail empire via being part of the Premier League. Ashley’s people told John Hall that this was the reason why Mike Ashley was buying the club back in 2007 and those benefits are simply growing season after season.

As always, any football fan doesn’t really know all the ins and outs of what is happening at another club, but I appreciate many of the sentiments expressed below by the Rangers fans.

Thousands and thousands of Newcastle fans have already walked away because of Mike Ashley but there has always been somebody willing to take their place.

However, it does now look like we are heading into a critical time in terms of deciding the future of Newcastle United, hopefully collectively we can somehow find the key to getting rid of him from St James Park.

Rangers fans comment via their popular message boards Follow Follow:

‘Looking like they are in the middle of a battle with Keith Bishop Associates (remember them).

Feel sorry for these guys, they know what they are up against but the wider Newcastle support remain total sheep.

I know we aren’t quite out of the woods yet when it comes to the fat man, but at least the end is in sight for us. These guys are right in the thick of it.’

‘Only way for Newcastle to get out of his grip is for him to drop down dead then his assets get sold from his next of kin.’

‘Fingers crossed…’

‘Good on the Newcastle fans who are at least trying, most of them are loyal lap dogs and do nothing to assist their fellow fans in the fight.’

‘I bet with the proposed takeover of Newcastle collapsing around Xmas there, that part of the conditions were something to do with long term onerous contracts on the merchandise the slimy snake!’

‘Some of them have woken up to the fight but I reckon most of them haven’t got a clue about how much he is shafting them for.’

‘Good to see that at least some Newcastle supporters have balls.’

‘Frightening to think how close the fat man came to getting his grubby mitts on all our assets.’

‘Yes if it wasn’t for Dave King and the 3 bears we would have been Cactus.’

‘He coulda had our retail tied up forever – zero streams of income being invested in the first team

We would’ve been leasing Ibrox and Auchenhowie back from him for perpetuity for extortionate fees.’

Is Ashley not meant to be a fan of Newcastle as well?

If he’s doing that to them, what damage he would have done to our great club. Makes me even more grateful for Mr King & co.’

‘This is an opportunity to join up with them and both support each others fight.’

‘I drink with a Newcastle supporter and he hates Ashley.

Problem is that most of the fans are apathetic to their situation.

They know there is no chance they are getting rid of him unless someone pays top dollar and Ashley get his money back.’

‘Thought I had read somewhere he was a Newcastle fan (but now know he isn’t). Guy’s just a parasite then.’

‘They seem to be encouraging an online campaign against Bishop and any businesses associated to Ashley. Sports Direct haven’t tweeted for several days.’

‘They couldn’t give a sh.. about us. I care as much for them.’

‘From what I know a lot of the Newcastle fans know exactly what he is, and that they need to get rid.

But it’s a lot harder for them as it was for Rangers, given how much damage he can do if he leaves.’

‘He should be banned from football.

He doesn’t ever act in the best interest of the clubs and FAs should veto any dealings with him in future.

In fact he’s a leech.’



  • Paul Patterson

    Not very well liked anywhere is he . .

    • Toontaff

      He’d take ‘slimy snake’ as a compliment.

      • Toontaff

        A level-level paddle playing slimy snake……………

  • East Durham Mag

    Cue Monksatan and Co. Defenders of the Fat [email protected][email protected]

    • Tweed Mag

      No doubt they will think of something, even if it is little more than an insult to everyone else. The Ashley apologists are struggling and their leader is nowhere to be seen.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        He’s currently visiting the planet zog branch of toon supporters in his attempt at pro Ashley support

  • Leazes.

    We are not alone in the universe!

    • TheNutJob

      diven`t tempt fate, Clarko will appear

  • SuperDesHamilton

    Agree with them 100% but then again their clubs only been an entity since 2012.

    • East Durham Mag

      Founded in 1872 thats 146 years? You mean when they got knifed in the back by the Scottish FA and had to reorganize the club?

      • SuperDesHamilton

        I mean when they didn’t pay the tax man like everyone else had to & gained an unfair advantage from it

    • Wor Lass

      I`d love for you to stroll into a pub in Govan and say that to families and friends of the 66 fans who died in the 1971 Ibrox disaster.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        What does that have to do with the club as it being formed in 2012 you absolute f****?

        4/10 – effort
        8/10 – faux outrage
        10/10 for stupidity

        • Wor Lass

          Whether it`s got anything to do with anything or not, I`d just love for you to do that. I`ll pay your fare to get up there.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Well you’re making a major statement or at least trying to. If you could explain I’d be enlightened as to why?

            I don’t see what cheating the tax man & reforming has to do with a disaster & clubs in govan?

          • Wor Lass

            If you can`t piece that one together I`m not going to help you. I couldn`t enlighten you anyway – you appear to know more than I ever could about everything.

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            Block him

          • Wor Lass

            Nah – he`d just appear as some other t*sser. I`m pretty sure he`s that guy who used to want to Lick Anita up the Hoop, or something similar.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            If Anita was playing in my back garden I’d close the curtains.

          • Wor Lass

            Your curtains are probably closed all the time.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            What a cutting witty response.

            A dunno what it’s meant to mean but aye, riverting….

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            i just posted to you then blocked the idiot,
            let him get on with it, i won`t be reading his [email protected]@king garbage

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Would you like a tissue for your issue?

            You little sheep

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Had a few sherbets last night and totally embarrassed yourself maximus. Grown men telling other men to block each other 😂😂😂

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            [email protected]@k off you stupid C nut, your`re like a piece of Dog schitt, avoid at all costs.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            A see you’ve started early again. Didn’t know ponderosa was open this early

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I know what you’re getting at, your just cowardly to stoop so low because I’ve huffed you.

            The club isn’t the same one simple as what’s hard to understand? I’m still at a loss as to why you want me to go to a pub? I’ve been to plenty up there the green ones

          • Wor Lass

            Of course.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I’m losing brain cells trying to comprehend your half headed replies

          • SuperDesHamilton

            You still paying for my fare then mong?

      • Lhc

        Spot on your comment and I will chip in for the fare too.

        • Cartoon

          so would i

  • Arty Hume

    IMHO the main problem is our hereditary ” asset ” of loyalty which TFCB is exploiting to the max and it is now obvious was his intention from day one! We as a Geordie nation are famous for our loyalty both to football and other aspects of life, including politics. TFCB is exploiting our loyalty to the team and taking the financial benefit from that action and screwing the club into the ground in the process. Many however have seen the light and decided to stay away until the place has been fumigated, myself include. No doubt if/when he finally slings his rotten hook there will be stories to tell of the way he Royally screwed his golden goose and the stupid thick Geordie [email protected] who put up with him for so long, as he laughs all the way to another bank or off shore account at our expense.
    The same can be said of politics, just look how a local M.P has grasped at the chance to glean extra support for a toxic party followed by a large number of loyal but betrayed supporters. In case no one was looking the M.P layed the motion on the day of parliamentary recess meaning it is to remain dormant until after the summer recess when the season will be over a month old and the action rendered meaningless.
    We as a Geordie nation deserve so much better than the two examples above, and the only way to change things is to act together, if we dont we will all fall together.

    • Geordiegiants

      Politics is another one I don’t get in Newcastle. “My grandad voted Labour, his Grandad voted Labour, I’m going to vote Labour”. Yeah vote Labour if that’s what you think is best for you, but come on ffs sake, at least check why your voting labour.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        Hahaha me too! They use it as a badge of honour for some strange reason 😂

        I vote labour but if another party came around with policies I agreeded with I wouldn’t think twice about voting for them

        • Arty Hume

          N.B I changed to UKIP which is doing much better now with Gerard Batten as leader but look to The Democrats & Veterans party which seem to be making a good showing now, both similar idea’s and manifesto’s, with the people at the heart of things.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            A I agree with a lot of labour policies but some leave me speechless

            But like what was said before people voting because other family members have & do is utterly baffling but does explain why a lot of our fans just accept the s*** Ashley serves up

          • Geordiegiants

            Exactly the point I’m trying to get across.

      • Arty Hume

        Indeed mate, same page! I have joined UKIP who are having a remarkable surge again in popularity due to the duplicitous nature of the other two main parties, mind having said that The Democrats & Veterans party seem to be making a good showing. Looks like we are let down on two fronts, but hey the club is equally important and thats what the forum is for not politics ;)

      • Superdooperhooper

        Not entirely true. Newcastle has had tory led councils and MP’s as late as the seventies and eighties. It was when thatcher got in that people turned against the Tories

        • Geordiegiants

          I’m not saying 100% of people think like that, the same as 100% of Newcastle fans aren’t sheep either. What I’m saying is the baaaa baaaa baaaa attitude is still a big thing up north, especially here in Newcastle.

          • Superdooperhooper

            I agree with your main point . People should think for themselves and not be sheep. But a lot of working class people voted tory before thatcher so it’s not a case of everybody’s grandad voted labour so therefore I must

          • Geordiegiants

            Again I’m not saying everyone, I’m just stating a known fact.

          • Bowlsey

            Oh come on. The sad fact is that most people in the north east would vote for a pot noodle if it had a red Labour rosette stuck on it. A lot of them still believe that the Labour party actually give a f**k about the working class of this country, when it’s ran by IRA supporting champagne socialists like Corbyn, who hasn’t done an actual days work in his entire life, knows nothing of the real hardships that families are going through in the north east and cares even less.

  • Scottie Chugger Dearden

    What gets me is Dave King is just as corrupt and their devotion to getting rid of Ashley has opened the way for Celtic to do ten in a row. Our attitude is we were here before Ashley and the club plus us will be here after him! I’d rather keep an eye on him and making sure he isn’t shafting us.

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Isn’t Dave King wanted in South Africa or has done time over there for money irregularities

      • Scottie Chugger Dearden

        His business is based in SA he’s being done for contempt of court recently over failing to bid correctly for the remaining Rangers shared,Ashley had him in court recently cause he switched the kit from puma to hummel without giving fcb a chance to make an offer and in 2011 when the Gers were heading for disaster he couldn’t get away quick enough from his 250million tax bill.

        I’d much rather be where we are right now than where they are and I can’t stand Ashley.

        They are more deluded than us they think their time has come, I have to keep reminding Rangers fans he’s Steven Gerrard not Merlin the Magician !

        • SuperDesHamilton

          As much as I despise fatty he covers every alley in terms of illegal/improper business operations. King is one wrung above Craig Whyte a total fantasist like the whole Hun fan base

          • Scottie Chugger Dearden

            Craig Whyte was something else, a man with a history of asset stripping and Ibrox welcomed him with open arms!

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Couldn’t of happened to a nicer club

          • East Durham Mag

            Better club than the Fenian sc*m.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            That’s a lie 10 in a row incoming mmmmm I love your bitterness

          • East Durham Mag

            Bitter ? Not me. I just can’t stand Celtic never could. Its a very poor league so banging on about 10 in a row is a bit pitiful. Still it made me chuckle thank you.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Who else should they beat then? I’m intrigued Scottish club in winning Scottish club shocker

          • East Durham Mag

            They always do well in Europe.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            When you get £1 million for winning the SPL & £100 mil for getting relegated I’d say their punching above

          • Davey drape

            celtic will always have something the new rangers wont reach – a european cup win

          • theoriginalbomberman

            And the Epl isn’? It’s all glitz and glamour with no actual substance the Premier league is the nickelback of football watched and paid for by millions over the world but there’s actual very little talent.

          • Scottie Chugger Dearden

            Is that the Fenian scum that Shearer and Beardsley chose to have their testimonials against?

          • East Durham Mag

            Doesn’t mean i have to like them. Perhaps labelling all Celtic supporters sc*m is a step too far. Still don’t like Celtic though.

          • WATP

            I disagree I thought it was perfect.

          • East Durham Mag

            I was being diplomatic 🤣

          • Davey drape

            oh the People who think their far superior to everyone else eh?

          • WATP

            Simply the best……

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Bigot

          • Davey drape

            at least celtic didn’t try cheating the tax man.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Not only a Durham plastic but someone who hates others based on religions

            Bigot

          • East Durham Mag

            Your favourite word ” bigot”. Or are you going to call me a mong? You like that word and you have the gall to call me a bigot? Go away you little moronic boy.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I’m just saying what you’ve shown yourself to be…a bigot.

            You dislike people & a club solely based on the religion & ties of said club…that’s a bigot

            Scurry back off to the stadium of light plastic man

          • Davey drape

            yep go around hating anything Irish or catholic

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Vile set of entitled fans

  • Geordiegiants

    The consensus seems to be, that our fans are sheep willing to put up with anything.

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      there used to be a waiting list for season tickets, it`s gone

      • Ben Jones

        Yet still getting 52k . So I’d imagine your fact, if a fact, makes zero difference to the clubs income.

        • Big Hairy Man

          To Fatty’s income

          • Ben Jones

            You can not just help yourself to a limited companies funds even if you 100% own the company outright, it’s illegal.

            If you have information or proof that any money has left the club then you NEED to report it, perhaps you’ve discovered an anomaly within the accounts that absolutely no one else, professional or not, has been able to identify, if so then please, as a fan I urge you to report it to the relevant authorities for the good of the club

            If not you MUST assume all money has been spent by the club or is in the clubs accounts.

            If I called you a pedalo, it’s only right if I can prove you’re into little boats

          • Cartoon

            another troll.

          • Ben Jones

            How?

            Is calling people a troll the easy route to not having to table your own argument?

          • Mike Adam

            That is what the experts do on here when anyone has a different opinion from their’s.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Do you mean Leazes the fantasist & his acolytes

          • Mike Adam

            Sure, anyone who is not able to handle an opinion that might be different than their’s.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Him & his acolytes

          • Mike Adam

            Exactly, Leazes and Jezza kings of the block!!!

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Differ in opinion & the two middle age weirdos block

        • Cartoon

          another troll

          • Ben Jones

            Elaborate?

            I didn’t say the poster was wrong on his fact(I don’t know the truth of his claim nor am I interested enough to find out), I merely stated that even if true, there’s still the maximum possible coming through the turnstiles(fact) so the clubs income can’t be affected by it.

            Why is that a troll?

          • SuperDesHamilton

            That troll has better patter then you at least

      • Geordiegiants

        15,000 at one point. It’s slowly declining. We still have enough to keep the fatcunt in pies for another few seasons though.

  • Alex

    The Ashley apologists always come on and say that those of us who are always ‘complaining and dissatisfied’ make NUFC fans the laughing stock of English football.

    How wrong!! As can be seen from the Rangers fans comments, and has been said by me for years, others see ‘laughing stock fans’ as the ones who have continued to be sheep and lap dogs for so long, and done nothing to get rid of Ashley.

    • Wezza

      They aren’t genuine fans though but we know the score.
      On another note I’m tired of southern media saying we have too high expectations. Come up here, learn the truth and they’ll understand.

      • TheFatController

        I hate when they say ‘realise the potential’

        potential means you could possibly improve to be much better one day, if you keep progressing. Kenedy has potential therefore.

        We’ve been at the very top under Keegan – we’ve already realised our potential. We signed Shearer at a world record fee.

        We don’t have potential, we’ve been there and done it.

        • Ben Jones

          No, we weren’t at the very top with Keegan , what we had with him(and I enjoyed it as much as everyone else) was the equivalent of a young lad keeping pace with a marathon runner until he ran out of steam after 200m

    • kingfisher

      Absolutely spot on Alex.

  • Anonymouse1

    it`s the flip of a coin to choose who`s the most repugnant, Mike Ashley or superdes

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Superdes, you coward.

      • Anonymouse1

        Bit like a rabid dog, IQ, well below average, lives off benefits but still has a 65 in flat screen, watches matches on an illegal box,
        wife ran off with a lesbian.known locally as little des, ask the ex wife on that , one of life losers.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          Why you telling everyone your life story?

          Bit personal for a public forum

          • Anonymouse1

            boring to the zenith degree is little des

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Maximus the mong

        • SuperDesHamilton

          Imagine blocking someone on one account and making another one up to spy on said person. Unlucky moose

        • Soldier

          lol, add paranoid to that the guys an idiot

        • Rabid Dog

          No. Nothing like a rabid dog. But the rest is probably true….

          • Anonymouse1

            sorry about that R D

          • Soldier

            i would guess it`s very true, the guy`s that stupid he thinks that by accepting cookies on a website he`s in for free biscuits.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            You’re one of them blokes who’s thinks because he’s in the army everyone should bow to them

          • WATP

            He would rip you up son. Respect our soldiers past and present or go live in another country.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            He couldn’t fight sleep man, the whopper.

            Another zombie goodness me, why would I go live in another country If I’m from this country?

            Fat, bald, voted UKIP & hate anyone not white or British…nailed you in one

          • WATP

            Your a wee [email protected] You have alot of insecurities.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Said the man so insecure he had to come on and threaten me? Hmmmm

            Go back to Scotland man. Although half of you want to be irish half English…but none Scottish.

            Your club died as well so hurry up back to your shrine of lord saviour gerrard

          • WATP

            Your one tragic little specimen, your mother should of aborted you.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            That’s not very nice, who’s so insecure now they have to throw insults?

            You absolutely knuckle dragger. Typical Scot full of it but couldn’t bust a grape

          • WATP

            Go get yourself a hanky. In your case I wouldn’t bust someone who is mentally retarded. How’s your fellow Celtic fan doing who got burst last season down Sunderland?

          • SuperDesHamilton

            You couldn’t do it that’s why.

            You not gonna fap off to Nicola sturgeon?

            I wouldn’t know considering I support Newcastle.

            You not got some immigrants to complain about or love letters to tommy Robinson to write?

          • WATP

            Yes correct I couldn’t because your mentally retarded. Never been to a game in your life you fantasist.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            To what game, pool, football, tennis what?

            That was very vague you ignorant hun

          • WATP

            Your struggling now with your replys. I’m going to leave you now cause you are boring me to death. Enjoy the rest of your night trolling and spitting all over your keyboard with rage. 🇬🇧

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I’m intrigued to know what you meant? A feel for you it must be hard hating people because they have a different skin colour or religion

            UP THE RA 🍀

          • WATP

            You’ve just shown your true colours to everyone there you neanderthel, well done. Your the thickest😂 person to grace this earth with your last comment, shot yourself in the foot as the saying goes in fact shot yourself in the face.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I’m not a knuckle dragging racist like yourself though.

            Imagine being so bitter & twisted to hate people for having a different religion to yourself.

            Hitler did that, you probably love him though

            Do you think catholics should all be killed?

            do you wanna be up to your knees in ‘fenian’ blood?

          • WATP

            Wtf are you going on about, read your last post I quote ‘ UP THE RA ‘ you try and deflect what you’ve actually said but I never once said anything racist like you imply but that’s you all over. It’s plain for people to see what you are now, well done des you terrorist supporting scum bag. You are mentally ill son.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I’ve no reason to deflect anything I’ve said.

            You don’t like anyone who doesn’t agree with your bigoted ways.

            Absolutely raging still your club died you catholic hating bigot

          • SuperDesHamilton

            You’re talking nonsense now the hatred & racism has your head spinning, it’s sad to see

          • WATP

            I see you took your previous post down des I quote ‘UP THE RA’ your a coward. What has been posted on the mag is always on record with the editors you fool. You showed your support for a terrorist organisation you twisted little man.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            I showed support for the UDA? You’d be all over that bigot.

            Absolutely broken you with a few comments, it’s not nice to just like your old club you’re both done for

            Up the….A

          • WATP

            Edited your post, but it’s always on record you idiot. Your a disgusting little man and I don’t waste my time on you anymore.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Thanks for sharing your daily routine pal

            Up the 🍀

        • Billmag

          Every now and then this forum throws up a duck egg enter Des.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            You’d know all about that, to be fair it’s the only thing you’d know much about since you just cry your eyes out on here anytime anyone has a different opinion

          • Billmag

            Correct cheers.

          • WATP

            The wee man has alot of insecurities, bless him.

      • Soldier

        Hamilton was i believe useless so you absolutely fit that bill

        • SuperDesHamilton

          Just like your then eh, army reserve.

          • Soldier

            no, regular, bye

          • SuperDesHamilton

            3 random words thrown together?

            Is this a game am I meant to make a coherent sentence out of them or something?

          • Ben Jones

            Don’t correspond with people if you can’t keep up with your own conversation . You called him an army reserve , his reply was

            No (not a reserve)
            Regular (full time soldier)
            Bye (goodbye you’re boring)

          • Peter C

            Sorry no offence SuperDes, but Des Hamilton was another useless Kenny Dalglish signing, he got from Bradford City.

            Who played left back or occasionally left midfield, he should’ve of been left back, at Bradford.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Think you’re missing the irony of my name

          • Peter C

            No, I did think that you were being ironic, in an amusing way, but there are a few people out there, who wouldn’t know or remember him.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Aye we have a lot of thick supporters

          • Peter C

            I would like to think, you don’t include me in that group.

            Cos stupidity, isn’t just confined to Newcastle supporters.

            Come to think of it, we all must be stupid, as we’ve been treated for granted; and put up with such disdain, for the powers that be at the club, for decades.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            We are, he’s used the loyalty against us time and time again

          • Cartoon

            is it irony or stupidity

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Take your pick

  • Wezza

    ‘£41m parachute payment’
    MASH Holdings.

    • Soldier

      i would think so

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      Don’t be so unbelievably thick.

  • Peter C

    A blood sucking leech, who’s sucking the life blood out of the club and the will power out of the fans.

    We love the club, everyone, even the ones who back Ashley, but he only sees it as a means to an end.

    A money making machine, and vehicle to promote his other interests, primarily Sports Direct.

    Which I’m totally not against, if only he would treat the club with the same level of admiration, he does with his retail and property empire.

    But he doesn’t, he starves one, to feed the others, and we all know which one that is.

  • Billmag

    There’s a good line in amongst that lot, I reckon most of them haven’t got a clue how much he is shafting them for.

    • Kev Newcastle England

      Aye comment of a clown

  • skarabrae

    When Ashley eventually leaves the club, there will be nothing left of it… the merchandise rights, the stadium etc etc will all belong to mash holdings, extortionate rates for leading back the stadium, the club will just be a lifeless shell, sucked dry by the fat parasite!!

    I pray I’m wrong!!

  • Cartoon

    it`s a bit of a shock coming back to the mag after 4 years, it used to be a great forum of debate & some of the old guard are still posting but now we have what can only be described as an infestation of trolls ruining it for most, i cannot for the life of me see what pleasure they get out of it, it`s sick

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      You mean fat Jezza & Leazes’ the liar.

    • SuperDesHamilton

      You know what to do then…go away

  • kingfisher

    I know football is a matter of opinions, but I can’t honestly see how some fans can side with Ashley considering all that he has ( or more to the point, hasn’t ) done during his time in charge.
    You will always get differing opinions, but it was refreshing to see that even some Rangers fans say we should be trying to get Ashley out and calling some fans “sheep” for continuing to go to S.J.P.
    It was the same during “The Entertainers ” period. Even though we were spending millions on big name players and playing marvelous attacking, entertaining football and were most peoples favourite second team, some said Hall, Shepherd and Keegan were failures because at the end of the day we didn’t win anything !

    But surely even the most sceptical fan would agree that it was the most exciting time to be a Newcastle supporter since the glory days of the Fifties?
    My point being that you can’t please all of the people, all of the time! It surely is a “funny Old Game”

    • Leazes.

      The problem with Hall was that he lost interest, and started transfering money to ventures in Rugby, motor racing, Basketball and Ice Hockey. The money he put up for Shearer was demanded back, and that was £6m from the club so Ferdinand was sold without Keegans consent.,,,,

      …..that’s when the discontent started, you could see that the club was no longer challenging and let things slip until Robson came in an pushed the club forward again…. mind you I never did understand the Titus Bramble purchase.

      • kingfisher

        I’m not sure if he lost interest Leazes ,or was just trying to capitalize on the Toons success and build his empire even further. But as you rightly say, discontent crept in and instead of pushing on, we grasped defeat out of the jaws of victory and self imploded, like we always seem to do when things seem to be going our way.They were still exciting times, unlike the dire state of affairs that we find ourselves in now !

    • Kneebotherm8

      Spot on …..as a fan,the Hall years were fantastic for this football club……We’ll never see football like that again at this football club under this ownership….or even beyond this ownership……unforgettable……

      • ghostrider

        Living in the past in a time where we were more the Chelsea of that time, whilst few could keep pace, is not the same as now and nor has it been the same since Ashley took control of a struggling Newcastle United that was clearly on the road to destruction had he not came in.

        There’s a lot more to thank him for than to slate him for.
        Unfortunately too many fans live on the want of high stakes as long as it’s other people’s money.

        • Kneebotherm8

          He came into this club with his eyes wide open ……….no due diligence bull💩……his initial investment has been returned 10 fold via the 💩Direct exposure……which is the precise reason he bought this football club……and the reason he is in no rush to sell it…..he’ll carry on running it on as minimal an outlay as he can whilst retaining premier league status ……..that is,and has been,his only objective from day one…….

          • ghostrider

            It doesn’t matter whether he didn’t do due diligence. He bought the club and took the excess debt on the chin and went about his business.

            What he spends his money on is his business.
            What he spends the clubs money on, is the fans business.
            Don’t get mixed up with the two.

            We’re doing ok if people allowed it to be.
            We’re never going to run for a prem title against the silly money bags clubs.
            We are simply also-ran like 70% of the rest of the prem.

          • Ram Kishore

            I’d suggest him to setup a plan to slowly get his loans back on a structured basis.. i don’t know fans would see it as a repaying the loan. It would be seen again as a asset stripping..
            I still wish he had appointed someone else other than McLaren ..
            And limited the club’s spending… I hate Ashley for that… I hate Ashley again for not solving the issue with Benitez behind the scenes this summer…

          • ghostrider

            A number of fans have seen to it that Mike Ashley simply runs Newcastle United on a basic in house economy.
            He’s not willing to hand out extras to appease those fans and is not going to hand out extras to gain little movement.
            What he will do is ask his manager and scouts to try and ensure we build or sustain from what we have in the kitty or in player transfers.

            That gets him hated and fair enough if fans want to do that…but the reality is, if he splashes out, he’s up to something.
            If he gets in a manager like McClaren ands splashes the cash, it’s all fine until it’s not fine, where McClaren failed with his money…yet it’s Ashley’s fault for deliberately employing McClaren….when the reality was, it was the players bought that were as much to blame.

            If he spends and it goes wrong…he’s damned.
            If he spends on a budget and we don’t progress. He’s damned.
            He’s damned in every way possible with a portion of fans.

            Look at the Mitro situation.
            One minute fans were going mental about Ashley holding out for more money for him. Many fans said Mitro wasn’t worth more than about 12 million, or so.
            We sell him for 22 million with potential add-ons that could take it to 27 and yet we get told he’s basically garbage and yet in the same breath we get fans bigging Fulham up and saying they know what they’re doing in their spending.
            It makes no sense. It’s basically a dig at Ashley in every turn to say, ” look what we signed…a player that is way less priced than Mitrovic. One striker out and one lesser one in.

            It makes me laugh and it also makes me sit bemused at the way some fans goes on.

            Rafa can’t do any wrong and every player he’s after are seemingly not his choices, basically….unless they hit the ground running. Then they’ll be Rafa’s choices.
            This is what certain fans are like.

            Every other club are spending wads and wads of cash apparently… but we are not spending again because of this net spend nonsense. Yet some fans fail to see that the player we get rid of we did have to buy and also the players we got rid of hardly played…so where’s the loss?

            All I see is potential gain and at worst the same drop down of players to the squad or away from it for any player that Rafa deems as a flop or not following orders….or whatever… which is no different to what Rafa’s been doing with the one’s he’s now ridding himself of.

            Doesn’t it seem weird to anyone that Mitro can be sold. Gayle potentially can be sold but Rafa keeps Joselu?
            The lad tries hard in games but he’s rarely employed as a striker.
            Maybe that’s it. Tries hard and follows orders, regardless.

            I don’t half yap yap lol but I just say what’s on my mind.

            Anyway, as for asset stripping. I don’t see any of it. I see asset building…unless you can show me what he’s doing.

            People go on about this club being in debt. It isn’t in debt to any outsiders.
            It owes Mike Ashley money from his own PERSONAL wealth…but because he is a fixture and fitting of the club, the club is basically debt free in one respect, because, if he sold the club he sells it for a set price and that’s it.
            Lock stock and barrel, kind of thing.

            You see, due diligence is a piece of cake for any potential buyer under Ashley.
            Now imagine if Ashley used banks to fund the clubs debt when he came into it?
            Imagine selling it…because he’d have to sell it far far cheaper but also leave the outsider debt still owing for any buyer.

            This way it’s simply all in house and any buyer pays the asking price with no outsider debt to add to it.
            No interest payments to carry on with.
            It’s ideal for any buyer…….if any buyer could see potential in the club against what the club is up against with the Sheikh’s and oligarch’s.

            A scary prospect for those with limited cash and a mindset of making money rather than actual firm foundation building over time.

            As for Ashley……he won’t be selling it and then shouting ” oh….and there’s debt owed to myself which you also have to pay.”

            Fans are simply not happy with Ashley whether he spends 200 million or 2 pence. It doesn’t matter. It’s gone way beyond progress in hold your own with some fans.
            They would rather disrupt the club rather than see anything positive happen whilst Ashley is at the club and Ashley is acutely aware of all this. The man is far from stupid and his naivety is down to a minimum since he first took ownership.

            Ashley knows we’re going nowhere against the sugar daddy clubs and the potential hobbyist clubs that are trying to gain an extra inch in the race to hold onto the coattails of the elites.

            Sensible buys at fair prices is the reality for the outsiders….and believe me, we are outsiders.

            My honest opinion is, try and enjoy what’s on offer with what we get and just hope we can compete to a certain level with the rest.
            Let’s see how we do against the West Ham’s and the Fulham’s, Wolves and what-not’s and see where we end up against their money bag attempts to have a right go, kind of thing.

            Because here’s the key.
            West ham (as an instance) are begging, stealing and borrowing to keep up their insane attempts to play among the elites.
            Their wage bill must be bordering on monstrous. And their mercenaries are close to fully armed and dangerous for the club.

            So what do we need?
            Do we need the same players as West ham?
            Or can the players we actually buy in compete with West ham?

            Because this is the reality of what we’re looking at.
            There’s no reality of anything much else when you’re up against the 50/60/75/ million players that the bigger clubs are playing around with. With the chasing pack of smaller clubs spending 30 million or so, on fan appeasement or presents for the fans until the presents are broken, in short order.

            But surely we can try…right?
            I believe we are trying. It’s not like we’re looking for league one players or championship cheapies to keep a wage bill down and also transfer fees.
            It’s not like we’re scouting the scottish leagues for bargain basement players in abundance.

            We are identifying the best of the rest of the quality on offer. Players that the bigger clubs don’t want and yet players that can be identified under the radar as potential.
            We have bought a few and are in for more whilst ridding the club or surplus players that don’t get game time…or extremely little of it….plus big wages gone.

            I do not see any issues…seriously.

          • Ben Jones

            Great read. Fully agree.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          How did such a supposed brilliant businessman not do his due diligence & not know there was debt?

          • ghostrider

            He took a chance.
            Basically speaking, I believe sir John Hall hinted at another consortium doing due diligence.
            Ashley stole in with gusto, it appears.
            Then he sees that the club was working on the never never.

            The thing is, the risk was a calculated risk worth taking for Ashley, because he told sir John Hall what he wanted to do with the club.

            Use it to further his SD business to coincide with the club doing well and hopefully being a worldwide hit.

            He’s failed on that front…but guess what?
            He failed because he gambled wrongly on Keegan.
            He failed because the sugar daddies were becoming an abundance that he and Newcastle United could not compete with.

            Pretty simple really.

          • Kneebotherm8

            You’re pretty simple really…….

          • SuperDesHamilton

            So he gambled on hundreds of millions of pounds, not sound business to me that?

            But then again you lick his hoop

          • Kneebotherm8

            He did do due diligence and he did know all about the debts……..remember one thing………the reason we’re led to believe he didn’t do due diligence is because………he told us so……..would anyone believe a word the fat cnt says………..he’s a proven lying twt and that’s another one in his catalogue of lies………he’d like us to think he’s off the last fckn banana boat and led up the garden path by Hall/Shepherd which is an absolute load of bollox…………..Lying FCB he is……..

  • Jonas

    The campaign and petitions should involve the Rangers fans and their experiences with him.
    I think a cross club fans united support network should be considered, if all it means is Leeds, Blackburn, Rangers, Blackpool, ourselves and others lending numbers to campaigns it cant be a bad thing

    any one that is so inclined towards disliking Leeds or preferring Celtic or whatever, so what, this helps us, care about that more than not liking others.

  • theoriginalbomberman

    Can you also ask them how they can both be the same club with the same history and yet somehow not have to pay back the taxman 100s of millions owed? Honestly rangers are not a club to look up to in any way.

  • Sickandtired

    One massive difference here. Ashley is the sole owner of our club and not a minority shareholder like he was at RFC. We have no leverage against him whatsoever as long as the mass support refuse to back protests or demonstrations against him and SD.
    I still reckon SD shareholders would have a larger influence on him than we would – especially if sustained negative publicity from us started to damage brand and share price.