Newcastle United travelled to Hull on Tuesday night.

Rafa Benitez taking a 21 man squad to the second friendly of the pre-season.

Martin Dubravka didn’t get on the pitch but the other 20 got some minutes, with the Premier League season now only two and a half weeks away.

I was at the game and a bit of a typical friendly, Newcastle did ok in the first half but didn’t really have much/any quality to hurt a poor opposition, apart from a couple of Shelvey passes including the one for the opening goal.

After the interval, Newcastle didn’t really show much, if any, quality anywhere on the pitch.

You don’t expect NUFC to be at their very best but I think it is normal to expect at least passages of play that is far better quality than a Championship relegation struggling opposition, who have lost a host of players this summer as they slash the wage bill.

When you scratch the surface, Newcastle United might well have had the numbers, but who amongst them are good enough?

I would say very very few and Rafa Benitez appeared to back this view up, with his comments after the game.

This morning I have gone through the squad of players from last night and there are glaring reasons as to why myself and the other 2,500 Newcastle fans were left worrying about the coming season.

All the talk at the minute is about money, or rather the lack of it, that is being spent on players this summer.

However, this is only the tip of the very large NUFC iceberg when you factor in just how little money has been spent on this group of players in the past. Lack of investment now is only adding to the problems caused by so little cash spent in the past.

Money doesn’t guarantee success but not spending it pretty much guarantees failure, not always immediately but at least sometime down the line.

Of the 21 Newcastle players last night, only three of them cost more than £5m and eight cost nothing.

Altogther the 21 players cost £75m, averaging out at £3.66m per player.

Never mind competing with the rest of the Premier League, never mind bettering that 13 year old Michael Owen record £16m signing, Newcastle haven’t spent more than £10m on a player since promotion and indeed £4m Dubravka is the only buy this window so far.

The 21 Newcastle United players at Hull last night and what each of them cost:

£4m Karl Darlow

£0 Freddie Woodman

£5m DeAndre Yedlin

£0 Jamie Sterry

£0 Josef Yarney

£4m Isaac Hayden

£4m Jamaal Lascelles

£5m Ciaran Clark

£0 Callum Roberts

£4m Javier Manquillo

£13m Jonjo Shelvey

£0 Ki Sung-yueng

£5m Mohamed Diame

£0 Victor Fernandez

£10m Jacob Murphy

£0 Rolando Aarons

£0 Sean Longstaff

£12m Matt Ritchie

£5m Joselu

£2m Ayoze Perez

£4m Martin Dubravka

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  • Mrkgw

    Get this deplorable, odious regime out of our club!

  • Paul Patterson

    Two and a half weeks to go should set alarm bells ringing..

    • Damon Horner

      2 weeks tomorrow. The deadline will be here before you know it.

  • 1957

    We are simply two or three injuries or the sale of Lascelles away from disaster. Little quality in the first team squad and an incompetent set up of coaches and scouts below senior level that produces no prospects of note. The 6 boys who played, with the exception of Woodman, haven’t shown anything to suggest they might make it at the top level

    • Megatron1505

      I wonder if Lejeune’s injury is oddly timed to stop a potential sale of Lascelles. At any other club that thought wouldn’t cross my mind, but when the manager has to contend with an owner who actively works against him It has to be considered.

      • Leazes.

        I wondered if that was the game Rafa was playing…. is that why defence is being prioritised?

        Rafa doesn’t want to be seen as the manager who sells him!

        • Megatron1505

          My personal feeling is that if Rafa goes Lascelles will follow.

          • Paul Patterson

            And visa versa..

          • Leazes.

            There’s no building work going on at the club so what incentive is there for the player or Benitez to stay?

            The control over transfers that the chronicle ‘insisted’ was with Rafa never happened!

            Neither the Manager or any player with any sort of value or ambition will stay!

          • East Durham Mag

            Or vice versa.

  • 501ninedarter

    Another one sided argument, how much are these players worth to add balance?

    Agree we need to spend money but lets at least try to add some semblance of balance, just look at that lot down the road. They spent plenty.

    • Megatron1505

      Or to add more balance let’s measure them against their peers (other premier league teams).

      • Leazes.

        That’s a troll

        first known as
        ‘KevfromManchester’ ten years ago’ Kevin Lee the dozy younger brother of David Lee
        AKA
        BigSams Black and White Army’
        ‘Wor Monger’
        ‘Clarko’
        …and hundred more,….don’t waste your time

        • Megatron1505

          Another one for the blocked list, happy days .

          • Leazes.

            Do you remember ‘Kev from Manchester’ and his brother ‘High in the Millburn’ and their dad ‘funlovingexpress’….

            …..they never left!

          • Jezza

            I remember those IDs and many others they have used over the years. Nor have I forgotten that those trolls were responsible for at least two other NUFC fans forums being closed down.

          • Megatron1505

            I used to post on Tynetalk years ago when it was on Sportnetwork. Did they have anything to do with that getting shut down?

          • Jezza

            Tynetalk may have been one of them if I recall. The True Faith forum was one too.

          • Leazes.

            I think David worked in factory in Peterlee, so I think they’re from down your way…. he mentioned it under his latest new name ‘fleckman’ or ‘monkseaton’ last week

          • Jezza

            What utterly sad, pathetic, empty, unfulfilled, sex starved lives they must lead.

          • Leazes.

            I don’t know about sex starved…. the dad has had two sons…. so he must have mated with something…… best guess would be a farmyard animal.

          • grumpyoldmag

            Just out of interest how do you know this?

  • Leazes.

    It looks like the gamble this time is that there will be three less valuable squads…. survival at minimum input…..

    ……..THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS ELEVEN YEARS!

    • Paul Patterson

      It won’t work this season ..

      • Leazes.

        There are three less valuable squads but you can only hold the waters of the dams back for so long…. depending on being injury free is a heck of a gamble.

        • Jezza

          Agreed. When you keep following that plan sooner or later your luck is absolutely guaranteed to run out.

    • Jezza

      Yes Fatso has still got resolute unwavering faith in the exact same “three worse teams” plan that landed Sunderland where they are today.

      • Leazes.

        Not so much a plan as a way of life.

  • Toon

    The writer is somebody who whines constantly and about everything to do with NUFC yet still travels on a Tuesday night to watch a friendly in Hull. This is why Ashley has NUFC in his pocket and will keep it there, you are an embarrassment

  • ghostrider

    Don’t bother looking at what the players cost…look at what they’re worth. This gives a truer indication of the quality and potential forward movement of it.

    Anyone want to mark up the worth of each if they were to be sold?

    • Ram Kishore

      We have 3 confirmed outgoings in last three weeks .
      Sels is reported to be leaving rn.
      If the club doesn’t make signings that would make an upgrade and improve the team,
      I would say we are starting in a very bad position..
      Manager giving a info of squad not being strong enough should have been addressed early..
      We could always bring in players while moving players who want to leave or unwanted

      • ghostrider

        It’s extremely possible that we could have actually upped the ante in terms of the youngsters being ready to play a part along the season…so not all bad and certainly not a real issue when you consider those that have left hardly kicked a first team ball…barring Merino for a short time.

        • Ram Kishore

          But I and as one proper fan doesn’t like when a manager is raising concern about our transfer fund not being revealed to him.
          As a manager, even if I have 20mil or 30 mil or more i must be informed ..
          Is asking that too much?
          But I didnt wanna make.any assumptions until August 9 because we could surprise incomings just like what we had Jan 31.
          But last week’s interview where Rafa didn’t say much but he just said he didn’t know how much money he’s been made available.. i am just concerned ..
          I am not going to say Ashley this, Ashley that because I never do..
          But I think seriously the club is hasn’t managed this situation because this kinda off field issues will affect the team .
          Too much whining and doom and gloom makes everyone sick..

          It’s good the young lads are doing well but n

          • ghostrider

            The window is not closed.
            Even you can appreciate that a manager who nails his colours to the mast one minute and then decides to run down his last year of his contract unless he receives assurances on funds, is blackmailing the club…not just Ashley.

            The man has been offered a contract on sickening money.
            Why can’t he sign it with what is on offer?

            I’m convinced we will have 3 or 4 more signings in before the season starts…but do we do it with Rafa on a year long contract who can walk?

            I don’t know…but it’s not ideal from both ends.
            However….the day a manager dictates to a football club or else is the day the football club becomes a nothing.

            If he’s the man people say he is then he’ll sign and shut up and get on with his job…or he’ll walk away and allow a manager to come in who won’t pee and moan at every turn and who won’t put down the players by saying they’re not good enough.

          • Ram Kishore

            It feels like blackmail, but did the club failed to avoid this situation?
            Definitely yes. I am sure the MD has failed in this part to solve the issue behind the closed door. Whats so difficult for both the sides to not solve the issue is something that’s perplexing..
            Atleast Rafa could just keep the positive atmosphere surrounding by taking the fight behind closed doors..

          • ghostrider

            Agreed.

          • Wezza

            Just block the troll mate, he and his brother troll here under multiple ID’s just to wind Newcastle fans up. They are MUFC season ticket holders and one of them works in Ashley’s tat shops. Very sad cretins indeed.

            Other names are: Fleckman, Clarko, MonkseatonMagpies, VodkaMagpie, Nut, ComeandTakeIt1836, Mark Potter, funlovingexpress, Jonathan Gibson, Martin Rooney, Ben Jones, Rob Brown, mentalman.

  • Nut

    Just because a club pays xyz for a player does that mean said player is worth that fee?

    Would Liverpool say Andy Carroll was worth the 35 million they paid us?

    Would Tottenham say Sissoku is worth what they paid ?

    Probably not!

    Equally a club can pay peanuts and get a great player worth a whole bunch more just look at Dubravka for an example there or Perez, Lachelles…. the fact is what you pay for a player isn’t necessarily an indication of how good they are.

    It may be over inflated because they had a good run of form e.g Sissoku.

    We pay very little but we get good players, yes we need more and better and perhaps sooner rather than later they are going to have to address the spend they put out.

    But the price we paid for these players means nothing. Look at their values on transfermarket if you want a truer picture.

  • TheFatController

    I love that some people who post here take the fact that transfer market is not a perfect economic science to suggest the underfunding in the playing squad needn’t make them (or anyone a little more level headed) negative.

    I would suspect the transfer market is hugely accurate, just that there are so many transfers, yes, you can point to a large number that didn’t come off.

    Yet the proof is in the number of clubs who win the most games that have spent heavily on players. That gives the underlying trend that takes out the anomalies of instances like ‘Mahrez and Kante were great for Leicester but slimani less so’ – you spend, you succeed, within a few percentage points.

    Celtic. PSG, Bayern, Madrid, Barca, City, Man U, Chelsea. Flattening our any anomalies by turning spend into success on the field.

    But then you can take the psychological influence of spending money. It tells everyone at your club, and the opposition, that you mean business on the field. That’s worth plenty, and outweighs the cost of the occasional bad signing massively.