It has been confirmed that Stoke have offered £15m for Matt Ritchie but that bid has been rejected.

The Chronicle are stating as fact that the bid has been made and turned down, reporting that NUFC won’t sell the winger ‘on the cheap’, the Scottish international having played more Premier League games than any other Newcastle player last season.

Exactly what is and isn’t ‘cheap’ is difficult to gauge these days, especially in the Premier League…and those trying to get into/back to the top tier.

Matt Ritchie turns 29 in September so that has to be a factor in establishing a realistic price, as does his record in the Premier League and Championship.

Easy to see why Championship clubs would fancy taking him, as when Bournemouth got promotion in 2014/15 the winger got 15 goals and 17 assists, whilst with Newcastle it was 12 goals and 7 assists in 2016/17.

It is also worth pointing out that in the top tier with Bournemouth his figures dropped to 4 goals and 6 assists and then 3 goals and 5 assists for Newcastle in the Premier League last season.

So basically, I think these past four seasons show, in the Championship the winger is a goalscoring and goal making machine, involved directly in 51 goals in the last two second tier seasons – better than a goal (he is involved) in every other game.

Whilst in the two Premier League seasons I think you then get a hard working winger who scores/creates far less often, involved in 18 goals over the course of two top tier seasons, less than one every four matches. Plus for Newcastle last season, he struggled to create a lot in open play, almost all assists coming on set-pieces.

The big question of course, as it is with every player who could potentially leave, is whether the replacement will improve the team?

If it is/was Kenedy as a replacement then I would argue that we are getting a better player, who is only 22. Certainly better in terms of the Premier League as he threatens the other teams by being more direct and running at them, something Newcastle don’t have in the rest of the team at the moment.

Based on the stats, there is actually a strong argument for saying that Matt Ritchie should actually generate a higher transfer fee than if a Premier League side buys him, as the winger scores and creates so often at that lower level.

Interesting when the media are talking about Newcastle United (Mike Ashley) not selling on the cheap.

We are all well aware of this, already we have seen this summer a move for Matz Sels reportedly fail because of a £500,000 difference in valuation, whilst Chancel Mbemba is dragging on for ever in his move, with not much more of a difference in valuation with Porto.

Last summer Rafa Benitez failed to shift Mitrovic, as despite only four goals and 11 starts in the Championship the previous season, Mike Ashley insisted on at least £16m for the striker, a ridiculous figure at the time which was never going to be met. The net result was that Rafa was stuck with a striker he didn’t want, who he didn’t give a single start in the PL last season, which also impacted on the ability to sign a striker he did want.

Newcastle ending up with Joselu for £5m, a forward who was never going to score many, as his past record told us.

Mike Ashley has been happy to bank £35m for Carroll, £20m for Cabaye, £30m for Sissoko, £25m for Wijnaldum etc etc.

Yet when it comes to buying there is a glass ceiling that has been in place for the entire 11 years of Ashley, the Michael Owen 13 year transfer record still not troubled.

The point must have been reached now where no sensible Newcastle fan can accept this logic that it is beyond our means for NUFC to pay £17m or more for a player, whilst at the same time wanting over £15m for Matt Ritchie.

If a (soon to be) 29 year old Matt Ritchie is deemed to be worth that, then a 22 year old Kenedy has to be seen as a relative bargain at anything close to £20m, considering what he showed last season, his potential and the fact he is just at the start of his career.

A bit worrying that the Chronicle also talk of Ki Sung-Yueng being the ‘replacement’ for Mikel Merino. Easy to forget just how excited Newcastle fans were about Merino’s form earlier last season, the Swansea midfielder is a valid signing but no more than a solid squad player.

You would hope that the £10m difference in the two midfielders would then mean extra financial power in landing Kenedy and/or Townsend or whoever, but that is the heart of the matter, with Ashley in the background we can never be sure of anything.

The Chronicle:

‘The Magpies aren’t keen on selling Matt Ritchie on the cheap despite a huge wage offer for the winger from Stoke

An offer of £15million has been deemed as unacceptable by the Magpies and Rafa Benitez does not want to sell the Scotland international unless he is handed a quality replacement.

However, like the impending exit of Mikel Merino, Benitez will only sanction Ritchie’s exit once a replacement is sought.

That was the case when the club signed Ki Sung-yueng last week on a free transfer with Merino due to join Real Sociedad in due course.’

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  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    I smell a Rat on this one,
    media reports have said the manager would be willing to sell him for an upgrade like Kenedy or Townsend.
    my guess is that Rafa doesn`t think the Obese One would let that happen or he want`s the replacement in before he sells & Fatso`s not having it

    • Leazes.

      Until I hear a statement from Benitez specifically referring to the players he’s targeted I’ll presume its the club is stocking the shelves in the absence of an extended contract signature….. someone has to buy player, they can’t go into a season totally unprepared…..

      [what an I saying of course they can?]

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        Rafa has been very quiet indeed, i think he`s given up and will just run down his contract

        • Tony English

          Haven’t seen much of Pep or Jose in the papers, they must also have given up and will just run down their contracts.

          He’s been no quieter than any other premier league manager.

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            They get the players they want, Or hadn`t you noticed
            Man U are in the process of signing a £53m fullback.

          • Tony English

            That wasn’t your point, your point was “Rafa has been quiet” therefore you presume he’s given up and will run down his contract…and you’re just making that up.

            I repeat, he’s been no quieter than any other premier league manager, despite the bargain cost of the two players we signed, he made statements about both, he has just made a statement about opening an Instagram account to connect with the fans, or hadn’t YOU noticed.

            You expect him to come out and comment on ‘media reports’ before deals (in or out) are done from the likes of the Chronicle?

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            It`s a guess & as he`s not renewed his contract or got in the players he asked for it`s a pretty good one.

          • Tony English

            You say he’s been quiet therefore [A] [B] [C]

            I say he’s not been especially quiet.

            THE END

          • TheNutJob

            i wouldn`t bother, he`s blocked you, he`s on a short fuse with d1ckheads like you

          • TheNutJob

            Yes he has
            THE END

  • Paul Patterson

    Every now and then, significant spend is required and to do this, a loss is bound to happen. The trouble is, the regime is hypocritical by nature.

  • Toonrobbybobson

    Laugh when you hear headlines of hoping for signing next week… good luck with that. Ashley is showing he doesnt want to spend a penny. Wants season tickets in. Wants to sell before buying so he is in power position to move goal posts on the incoming player as Rafa will be desperate for a replacement. Ashley thinks everyone is a mug.

  • Martin Rooney

    I like Merino and accept his failings as he’s young and new to the premier league but by god he f’d up so badly against luton twice that he nearly had a comfy bye sending us out of the cup, and he made no effort to help his team mates rescuing him.
    If Newcastle MA RA Penfold can buy a Mahrez Cabye Andy Roberston, Ronaldo, lukaku on the cheap and sell and Atsu, Ritchie for expensive cash to desperate buyers, then that should definitely be the policy.
    Anyone whoever at whatever club that pays £20m for £10m players is an effing idiot and anyone who buys £10m players for £5m is a genius.
    This site has a huge amount of thick contributors.

    • Wor Lass

      You missed the Monkseaton reference out of your moniker.

      • Tony English

        That’s because he’s from Saltwell Park and nowt to do with Monkseaton Mag.

        • Warwick Hunt

          Lives in saltwell park does he? Is he a tramp?

          • Tony English

            Not in, grew up near in a very lovely house, but that’s as much as it’s my place to say. He was in my class at school. Won’t comment further.

          • Warwick Hunt

            Take no notice of me. I was being sarcastic . It’s all I can do really

          • Tony English

            No problem, just backtracking on any ammo I might have accidentally given folk on here.

            He’s a real bloke, I’m a completely different real bloke, but we’re both accused of being fake profiles by paranoid knack ers who ironically hide behind fake names.

            We went to school together in the eighties, which we were only alerted to because we’re both using our real names.

          • TheNutJob

            😂😂😂

        • Wor Lass

          Wow! There`s two of them.

      • Martin Rooney

        Moniker, yours appears to be an admission that you know f all about football. More likely, that sat in themags office righting incendiary comments under various profiles to drive traffic, your commonly called ‘WOR lass’ as your the btch of the group. Now get back to wiping Jansen’s but.

        • Wor Lass

          You illiterate [email protected] You don`t need a moniker to show that you know f-all about football – or anything else for that matter. You need to get back to servicing your master, the mad Monk, and beating your meat over pictures of Pedro.

  • Leicester Mag

    Article after article the theme remains the same. Phantom bids or low bids, farcical petty squabbling/ haggling over received bids leaving players paid a fortune in limbo. All this choreographed to deceive fans to invest yet again in a triumph of faith over callous deliberate reality. Just amazing that doubts remain over the inevitable outcome. Ashley wins again.

    • FatParosite

      Oh no you a very wrong there. Ashley said himself he takes a back seat and does not get involved with the day to day running of the club so it isn’t Ashley….. Unless you are calling him a liar…??

      • Peter C

        I would say that Mike Ashley, probably doesn’t involve himself in the day to day running of the club to much, that’s why it’s in such a mess.

        He should either get more involved, sell up (my preference) or appoint a proper board to run it correctly, with it’s own autonomy.

        Saying that, I bet, that nearly everything which happens within it, has to get his seal of approval first.

        And Lee Charnley can’t take a visit to the WC, without Ashley telling him, not to use too much toilet paper !

        • FatParosite

          That is exactly my point. Ashley has closed the sluice gates and Penfold has to get approval in triplicate to even look at it never mind have a slash in the water….. Suffice to say policy is absolutely nailed down & NUFC is secured to run like an attendant-less all-night garage.

          • Peter C

            A hands off, hands on approach to running a business – football club.

            Don’t know why Charnley, or anyone for that matter, would want to work in such a fashion, for such a controlling and scheming person.

            Ashley is the kind of guy, who would take the credit for success, but blame someone else, for failure.

            A kind of down market british version of Donald Trump, but without, Trump’s supposed charisma.

  • magpiefifer

    Ashley is just a market trader who thinks he knows it all,but knows the value of nothing in football terms.
    He was happy to receive unrealistic sums for Carroll and Sissoko but won’t look at paying larger amounts for quality players – which suits his balance sheet mentality.However,While the quality of our squad stands still,other mid to lower table clubs improve theirs and it leads to the possibility of yet another relegation battle.

    • Leazes.

      He’s certainly made a profit on player trading £180m net gain for the club…. unfortunately it was a policy which backfired and kept the club in the danger zone relegating it twice costing it about £180m…. and writing off whole seasons before they started…. its no longer run as a football club.

      A top strikers wages could be achieved by stadium marketing which would have kept us out of trouble unfortunately S**** D****t take free advertising, so the club struggle as the chairman doesn’t look after the clubs interests and the owner makes sure we operate within the limit of every penny we generate……. minus advertising and with a token gesture marketing figure at the generosity of S***** D*****t.

      ….meanwhile clubs such as Watford, Huddersfield, Palace, leap ahead of us but that doesn’t matter because were not a genuine footballing concern.

      • magpiefifer

        Exactly – that’s what Ashley has turned the club into,and why I won’t be buying a season ticket until he goes!

        • Wezza

          Nor me and I will continue to point out the staggering tactics this regime stoop to. Two words to describe it:
          Greed, Spite.

  • Tony English

    Looking at the statistics of an individual, when those stats are heavily dependant on the players around him, is a deeply flawed analysis.

    You can compare Richie’s assists in the Championship and Premier League, but assist are only chalked up if the player receiving the ball puts it in the net, so maybe he made as many goal scoring opportunities, but Gayle (for example) isn’t a Premier League finisher against better defenders and keepers. His goal scoring is partly dependant on the ability of his team mates to play the right ball in to him.

    You can’t look at his numbers in isolation.

    I think it’s far better in some instances to judge for yourself, trust what you’ve seen, and that’s a hardworking talented player who is deserving of a place in a mid placed Premier League squad.

    • Wor Lass

      Fair point.

    • TheNutJob

      so why is Rafa thinking about selling him or is that just paper talk

      • Tony English

        Do we actually KNOW Rafa is thinking about selling him? We don’t.

        Obviously with the history of the club under Ashley we’re all understandably a lot more inclined to believe the rumours of players leaving, than players being signed, but they’re rumours that’s all.

        I’m not talking about whether Richie stays or goes, I’m saying he deserves to be in a mid premier league side.

        I’m talking about disbelieving individuals stats when it’s a team game.

        For example : Do you think that the quality of a central defensive pair have no influence on a goalkeepers clean sheet stats?

        Of course they do, but they are never quantified when you look at a keepers stats.

      • Mxpx

        He looked a little off the pace at times in the season I’d hazard a guess that he’s nursing his groin injury which if true then we’d be absolutely right to sell

        • Soldier

          i`ve watched both Ritchie & Townsend play although his stay at Newcastle was brief i`d say Townsend was the better player but with his departure when we we`re relegated it puts his loyalty into question. it`s up to Rafa

  • Andynufc

    Ashely extends the deadline. All of a sudden, Nufc are reported (by media friends of Ashley) to be close to multiple signings ie Townsend/Kennedy/Plea etc).deadline passes. Nufc don’t want to sell Ritchie on the cheap which means no money for other signings. Ashley the cancer strikes again. The sooner he dies, the happier I’ll be

    • Wezza

      All a bit too convenient isn’t it.

  • Mike

    ha ha ha only at Newcastle

  • 1957

    I see Feyenoord ‘regret’ not accepting (being greedy over?) our bid for Jorgensen. Thank heaven we tried to buy low or we could have had a worse player than Hoss at around 3 to 4 times the cost. Its been suggested his stellar performances in the world cup have actually lowered his value.

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      Make`s you think who scouted him in the 1st place

      • 1957

        Lee Ryder?

        • Ram Kishore

          Or Rafa..Lol MaybE he’s made mistakes too..

          • TheNutJob

            i doubt Rafa even knew who he was

      • Leicester Mag

        Blind Pugh?

    • Ram Kishore

      West brom made the same mistake with Evans last summer..Look at the value he left west brom

  • Tino11

    The Chron know as much about what is going on as fleckman and mugpie do, I’ll let you work out how much that is!

  • Soldier

    they won`t be back with a higher offer & offering to double his salary will unsettle him, it`s only natural

  • Garry Norman

    What would I be reading if, let’s say tomorrow we sign Plea for £25m? Just more bitching that we’ve ONLY broken the transfer record once?
    Change the record guys, for f☆☆☆’s sake.

    • Toonrobbybobson

      Plea is unproven risk. £25m for an unproven striker these days is nothing. Its not what we should be doing. That position is the biggest piece of the jigsaw and Ashley just wants to do on the cheap. £25m might sound large based on our historic transfer record but its all relative.

      • Leazes.

        You don’t get a top striker for £25m

        • Toonrobbybobson

          Exactly. Its the one area you dont skimp. Goals get you 3 points which makes the different in survival. We did amazing to survive last year but we didnt score many. Two seasons running thats a huge risk. Ashley will think he can do it again…

    • Leazes.

      The thing is Barry we will have to break our record to get someone of the quality(sic) of Mitrovic.

      • Garry Norman

        I agree, I’m just getting bored sick of reading the same stuff going round and round.

        • Leazes.

          I’m afraid moaning is all that’s left in the absence of Gin.

      • Tony English

        Same ‘quality’…with different ‘qualities’, that’s the key issue.

  • Wezza

    ‘sell high buy low ever going to end?’

    NEVER.

    It’s just staggering and beyond belief the lengths that this rotten regime go to. Unbelievable double standards to the extreme. If Ritchie wanted away for family reasons 15M is a good deal yet to decline it because the offer isn’t enough only confirms once again that the club only care about the money and not about the players or football.