I rarely write pieces for The Mag, but at times, I feel almost compelled, especially when I find the club to be in such a dire situation and so poorly run by the goons upstairs.

We have once again found ourselves in the position where the Manager and the squad requires financial backing, yet the man in control of the finances is not prepared to allow this.

Rafa Benitez confirming on Tuesday that we are in a sell to buy situation, despite receiving in excess of £120m in PL TV/Prize money and potentially over £170m in total revenue. In addition, when looking in conjunction at our average expenses whilst in the premier league, it wouldn’t be beyond comprehension to calculate that Newcastle are set to have made a massive profit in the year that just passed, potentially as much as £80-£100 million. So last year’s stringent financial philosophy almost pays off the “debt” incurred during our Championship season.

Mike Ashley famously said that the manager would be given every penny the club generated, quite a bold claim. However, no work is being done to ensure that we generate the income we should be. In 2007, the year Ashley purchased the club, our commercial income was £28m. Then in 2016, 9 years later (the season we were relegated from the PL) it sat at £28m, for perspective, Tottenham’s had grown from £39m to £59m within the same period. Arsenal’s is £42m to £107m and Man united £56m to £268m.

Should we be comparing ourselves with such big clubs, probably not anymore, but I think this clearly depicts that the club is being run to ensure it stays at a certain level. It shows that there is no ambition, no drive and no willingness to compete, but to simply exist in the Premier League at minimal cost and aggravation to Ashley. Due to inflation and increased costs, technically our commercial revenue has significantly decreased under Ashley’s tenure.

So where does that leave us now?

The club have increased ticket prices, shirt prices and are now charging a nominal £5 to watch this year’s friendly games. A money grab! It is my opinion that with the current stringent financial plans in place, compounded by the loan deals, free signings and sell before we buy policy, that Lee Charnley has been tasked with reducing the club debt to zero. But why? Is this to make the club a more prospective and viable option to a potential owner? I really hope so.

However, should the club be increasing ticket/shirt prices or looking at alternative revenue streams? Should spending be cut in order to reduce the debt? It seems that Ashley and Charnley are using the fans and the money the club generates to pay off the debt, which was undoubtedly incurred through their bad management and poor decision making!

So the gamble, Benitez enters the last year of his contract.

Throughout the past two and a half seasons, he has been lied to constantly, undermined, been given false promises, but he has managed to surpass all expectations whilst not being given the tools he needs to put the club in a position we all feel it could be. Therefore, will he stay? I really do not think he will renew his contract and should he go, I am sure others would follow. A permanent deal for Kennedy would be impossible and surely, others like Lascelles would look to leave.

A lot hinges on this season; to not spend is a massive gamble.

If Benitez manages another miracle and keeps our heads above water whilst both hands are tied behind his back, another massive profit will be made, but then what?

Continued mediocrity?

New ownership?

A new manager?

Even if we do surpass expectations again, will it be enough?

If the unthinkable was to happen, we could be saying goodbye to our PL status, our Manager and our best players, simply because the club are unwilling to do what is necessary.

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  • Leicester Mag

    Then get off the fence and lead proper structured and concerted protest

    • Samuel Brown

      Although a lot of people want this, it’s not enough. Hundreds and maybe thousands have taken the decision not to renew, but they are replaced. Fans are unwilling to see the bigger picture. For instance, say our transfer window runs as predicted and we sign very little with no real net spend, I propose we leave the ground empty for the first game of the season. This would need to be a collective effort. 12:30 Saturday, Sky Sports and accross the world, a completely empty stadium. Sky would re-consider showing our games on TV, which would hit Mike Ashleys pocket directly. Matchday revenue, TV money, then we keep doing it, every game on Sky, this would be the most direct way to force his hand. no more Sports direct advertisement, a direct way of hitting ashley where it hurts

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        It’s the first game of the season and you want a protest. Now I have heard it all. We finished tenth and could even finish higher. The transfer window is not even closed so no one knows what will happen in the next three weeks. Last season we did spend a fair amount on signings and loans most sources quoting a figure of £60m so let us see what happens first. Anyone protesting at the Spurs game will get short shift from other fans. This is a game we need to win and Rafa has called on the fans to support the team.
        Sales going well for Porto and Hull and I expect us to top twenty thousand for the first friendly. I hate the protesters with a passion.

        • TheFatController

          You see, people think you’re a paid PR professional. But surely then you would know you need a question mark on that first sentence?

          We all know what you think, how you know the thoughts of the genuine fan (‘short shrift from other fans’ – you can read minds as well as the future?), and how you can write positive things whilst ignoring the elephant in the room of Rafa leaving and the player exodus likely to follow him leaving.

          Same old same old. Love it.

          • relaxed

            Why do you even waste your time conversing with this retarded fukcwit
            Just block him

          • Jezza

            Well said.

          • Jezza

            Don’t feed the troll, marra. Just block him. Deny him the reaction he so desperately craves to fill his sad empty pathetic life.

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            You been let out your care home for a couple of days you self confessed Mackem.

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Self confessed Sunderland supporter go back to your care home.

          • Toon Barmy

            I am tempted to block him, but he is hilarious, i find it ironic that he actually believes we hate Newcastle United because we constantly criticise Ashley, yet the very same person, who he constantly defends, has absolutely no love for NUFC whatsoever. so he is either stupid or you are correct about him being a troll.

          • Jezza

            He is absolutely 100% a troll. He and his brother have been trolling various NUFC fans forums for over a decade. The only two people on here who genuinely hate Newcastle United are those two trolls. They are Manchester glory seekers and season ticket holders at Old Trafford.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            You may just find Jezza is lying.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Well you would stick up for your brother wouldn’t you

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            That’s right, Jezza is an investigative genius and with his contacts and special investigations he’s found the tip of the iceburg, it’s us Red Devils from somewhere in Manchester.

            Jezza may look like a fat tranny but make no mistake, he has me and all the family banged to rights.

            ….returning to the real world

          • SuperDesHamilton

            At least he doesn’t pretend to be other people like you & your brother, all because a bloke turned your club down in the 90’s

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            As I say, Jezza is a genius, it’s obvious and only someone really stupid would not believe him.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Only someone so stupid would pretend to be someone else online

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I entirely agree.

            Have you noticed how Leazes’, Mickylove, Fireman Sam and Wezza are always posting one after the other?

          • SuperDesHamilton

            No idea who they are

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I’m not sure there is a ‘they’, I hope not, hopefully there are not so many stupid people supporting NUFC.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Just you & Monkseaton then

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Of the people who post on here, I’d say those that are simple are:
            Leazes’
            Jezza,
            Fireman Sam
            Wezza
            Micky love (MichaelMaximusMoose )
            MrKlg
            Peaky
            Anyone who believes the theory that those who question the dim set are somhow related Manchester United fans.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Thanks for typing out your life story pal

          • Desree

            I am 100% certain he is connected to Keith Bishop.

          • drc74

            he is connected, he gets spit roasted by ashley and bishop

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Rafa has stated he is happy at Newcastle and more signings will come in judge at the end of the transfer window not now.

          • Milo79

            He hasn’t stated that more signings will come in. He is completely in the dark about available resources and Ashley’s intentions. FFS – we are trying to get a player on loan who is out of contract next season.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            That’s a lie. He’s away in the summer because of your pal Ashley. As is lacelles, as his agent put it what’s the point of being at a club that just exists

        • Samuel Brown

          As I stated in my comments, should the likely happen and we have a minimal net spend and Rafa isnt backed with the fund generated by the club and it’s supports, consideration should be given to protest.
          Im not sure what people are waiting for here?
          Ashley mugged off Shearer
          Ashley mugged off Keegan
          Ashley has mugged off most of our players, managers and anyone working for the club
          Ashley has mugged off suporters for over 10 years
          Ashley could kidnap the children of Newcastle and fly them to taiwain to sow umbro socks, but fans would still be giving him their hard earned cash and turning up on a saturday.
          What will it take? Are we all just sitting here waiting to see if we can out live him?

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Supporters have no power especially now where match day revenue makes up 15% of income. Some will always go like me and my mates so any protest would be a tiny dent. However the main thing you need to get rid of Ashley is a buyer and we have not got them. Any protests would defer a buyer and more likely put them off.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            You & your imaginary mates go to old Trafford

        • Brian Standen

          This is where I struggle with you. Surely you can see that every other mediocre club is investing on playing side, we just don’t – we are exactly where we were at end of last season!
          Yes with Rafa we COULD improve with same players, but just how long will Rafa tolerate this!
          I actually think we have a decent first 11 but throw in the inevitable injuries and the first 11 becomes considerably weaker.
          We need decent players in now!

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            The last two sets of accounts indeed prove that every penny was spent and the last ones show an eight million overdraft.
            Unless Ashley is holding the money back because Rafa has not signed a contract I expect money to be spent and the squad stronger than last year.

          • Brian Standen

            I accept that. But an income of £150 million is due – why can’t he invest on the strength of that?
            The only risk to income is relegation, the likes of Burnley, Fulham , Brighton etc see this and invest to prevent it happening. We just don’t!

          • Jezza

            Don’t feed the troll, lads.

          • Milo79

            On what are you basing your expectations, because most of us are basing our expectations on 11 years of this fat bastard’s ownership.

        • gordon

          You display Trump levels of self-delusion – your ability to convince yourself that obvious fallacies are factual is truly impressive (‘tremendous’ even) – I hate YOU with a passion you absolute demented f**kwit

        • drc74

          oh your back, have u been busy drinking the fat cockneys spxxk again

          • Wezza

            They were quiet yesterday! Probably trolling Man Utd forums given the price of their new kit!

        • Big Hairy Man

          Get your tongue out of Ashley’s hoop.

      • mentalman

        Sky Sports will not stop showing the games, we are good for their viewings because we either play really well or get pumped, add to that MA’s links with sky and the great stories they can report on how we tried and failed again to organise a proper protest

  • Wor Lass

    Somewhere along the line Ashley will go. We all hope (with one or two notable exceptions in the Monkseaton area) it`s sooner rather than later and things could go pear-shaped in the meantime. Things might have to get a lot worse in order to improve in the long term. I`ve nicked this quote from a post the other day by Geordiegiants because it sums up the bottom line perfectly, “The club is more important than money, the heritage and the people are more important than the premier league.”

    • Samuel Brown

      It’s very well saying this and yeah your right. but theres plenty of fans who may not live to see the end of the Ashley tenure.
      We as fans have the power to do something about it.
      If we left the stadium empty for one game, just one, imagine the impact. We could threaten to do it again at any time. I know we should support the lads, support Rafa or even the past 6-7 managers Ashley’s appointed or the dozens of players who have come and gone, but I’m sure everyone understands what’s needed for the greater good

      • Wor Lass

        That`s what I mean, Sam. Short term pain for long term gain.

      • mentalman

        The problem is that to organise anything on a large scale requires a lot of publicity, MA’s PR team will swing in to action and give schools free tickets or ship in people to fill the ground and then Sky Sports will report on what a failure the protest is again

    • FatParosite

      Nowherre near Monkseaton that paid for cretin. Just block the pathetic attention seeker.

      • Wor Lass

        Don`t see the point in blocking people because they see things differently. Plenty of people think Ashley does a good job for the club – plenty more don`t. That`s what it`s all about.

        • Jezza

          He doesn’t see things differently. He is a troll who likes to wind up Newcastle fans. He and his brother have been doing it for more than a decade now and have been responsible for at least two other NUFC fans forums being closed down.

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Out of your care home again I see have you got your 40% discounted Sunderland season ticket on a three year deal.

          • Wor Lass

            I don`t agree with him, Jezza, but he expresses opinions that you can hear quite commonly about Ashley saving the club and putting us on a sound financial footing etc etc. He says things other people are thinking and sparks off some good debate. Surely we shouldn`t be so insecure thaat we can`t handle that?

        • Dillon Tovak

          It’s not the having different opinions, it’s the fact they’re trolls.
          If I believed they actually had these beliefs I would listen, they’re just attention seekers though.

      • Jezza

        Correct. He lives in Manchester. He found Monkseaton on google maps and used that name purely for the purposes of alliteration. He even misspelled Monkseaton when he first began using that ID.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          Aye a noticed that, are they all backwards in Manchester

  • Dillon Tovak

    F*ck Mike Assley, the big todler will continue to sh*t on us for his selfish, spiteful reasons until he dies of a massive heart attack one day. As there’s no justice in the world that day will probably be in a long, long time.

    • East Durham Mag

      Lol Dillon i deliberately tried to not say i hope he drops dead. I do really though 🤣

      • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

        Disgusting.

        • East Durham Mag

          Was going to respond but can’t be bothered to think of summat mate. Whatever you say.

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            This comment is for Dillon as for some reason it won’t let me respond directly to his – Your speech is hate speech by wishing death upon someone, not free speech son. But you crack on showing your true colours, goodbye.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Remember when you were trying to meet me you weirdo

          • Dillon Tovak

            Looks like he’s still trying at the top of this feed.
            Probably wants a naked grapple.

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            😂🤣😂 you lot a pathetic man.

          • Dillon Tovak

            You’re the one trying to meet blokes off the internet so you can touch them 😂

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            😂 you and your bunch are pathetic. Weird responses.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            He’s strange he’s like a Geordie George Michael wanting to meet me in toilets

          • Dillon Tovak

            I didn’t exactly wish death upon him anyway, it was more along the lines of the good die young and this guy ain’t good so knowing our luck this beer swilling, kebab muncher will live forever and continue to 💩 on nufc forever more.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          No way to talk about your partner like that

    • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

      What a sick thing to say! You and below.

      • Dillon Tovak

        I thought you passionately believe in freedom of speech? 😂 classic.

        • East Durham Mag

          A true hypocrite. His hero was warned by the judge then still went ahead and acted in contempt of court. What a bonehead.

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            You think it’s ok to wish someone dead? Then straight back onto my name I post under to deflect what you actually said, surprise surprise eh. Sick wishing people dead you weirdo.

          • Dillon Tovak

            I’m not deflecting, I don’t care about what I said.
            But how can you argue vehemently about free speech one day and then say we’re sick for what we say.

          • East Durham Mag

            You think its normal asking to meet up for a fight then? Away from the CCTV, lovely and you call me a weirdo. Supporting an idiot like Yaxley Lennon ,have a look in the mirror mate.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        What could you do about it 😂

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      Do you hope your parents drop dead as well you and others are very sick in the head.

      • Jimblag23

        Read it again, where is death wished?
        Trying to be offended now aren’t you, my god you’re sad.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        You know what, block Monkseaton & him & Tommy Robinson’s comments disappear. Unblock him & they both reappear…

        It’s as though their the same person using the same IP address🤔🤔🤔🤔

        • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

          You take paranoia to another level 😂

  • East Durham Mag

    The 🐖 has bled the club dry and re-directed money away into MASH. Lied through his teeth constantly. He isnt a master at manipulating people or the media he just doesn’t give a toss what anyone thinks. As long as sheep fill SJP, buy his stuff and use his shops he will never let the goose that lays the golden eggs go.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      That’s just not true

  • Mrkgw

    Despite the views of some, losing Mitrovic (as has been reported this morning – his move is imminent) will only serve to further weaken the squad. For me, Rondon is a backwards step – older and no better. ASHLEY OUT!

    • FatParosite

      Rondon is 3rd choice. If he is a Rafa choice.

    • mentalman

      i don’t agree that it weakens the squad, he was never going to be used

    • Jezza

      The worst and most humiliating thing of all is we won’t even get Rondon.

      • panther

        I hope not, I’m better than him and half my legs still somewhere outside Basra

  • Peaky

    Hate is a very strong word that I don’t use very often but I fuc*ing HATE this fat cu*t with a passion and everything he stands for…..just f*ck off and don’t ever ever come back !!!

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      That’s Jezza sorted, what about Mike

  • jack

    I wouldn’t say it was a gamble , stupidity , lack of ambition , the guy is a spiv , just think how much he could earn if he invested and we became a top six side again , he’s just a buffoon

    • Jezza

      The way the fat pig sees it is that there is no need to strengthen a team that finished 10th when they only need to finish 17th. If the clubs that finished below us last season and the newly promoted ones are all spending big, that’s not a problem. We can easily afford to slip down a good few league places next season without any detrimental effect on the Ashley master plan. Why take £20 or £30 million out of the profits to strengthen a team that is already performing well above the required standard. Far better to pocket the lot as usual.

      • Megatron1505

        Spot on

      • HarryHype59

        I have no doubt Ashley reckons this team will survive this season as it finished tenth. As Stoke, Swansea and WBA have demonstrated, teams that finish mid table and don’t adequately invest, end up getting relegated.

        I honestly believe a third relegation will occur within two years, if the fat miser continues to run this club like a branch of Sports Direct.

        • Jezza

          Agreed. It will all very rapidly unravel the minute Rafa finally walks away.

      • Weyhhadaway

        That is probably how he looks at it. The mistake in that logic is that it was so tight in terms of points we gained about 3-4 places goals difference at one point. Don’t forget too that he always gambles. He is a billionaire anyway so he gambles with the club for sport.

      • jack

        I agree but to be honest it’s flawed , how he made so much money in the first place is boggling. I know he got his mum and dad to remortgage their house to start him off , and they had trouble getting the money back off him . I think he’s a spiv that wants to be a gangster , there is certainly millions gone missing with his creative accounting ,but how do you prove it , I know we’ve been relegated twice , but still been in the premiere a number of years compared to some , but they outspending us , where’s all the money gone , certainly not on players , because we’ve only had a net spend 4-5m average in 11years , any then this fictitious 130 m loss the last time we were in championship which was released just before transfer window opened , straight away he was covering himself to not give Rafa any money , how is he getting away with it , and why are we letting and we actually more in debt than we were when he bought us , then crazy lending Newcastle money , if any thing was ridiculous and cooked it’s got to be that , how can you lend yourself money .Surely 50000fans could do something about it , that’s where our power lies , 50000 people can have a loud voice

  • FatParosite

    This article is not self aware. I suppose like most of the drones that shuffle in and are going to pay more to see less this season at the SJP. In one paragraph it says: ‘we are in a sell to buy situation, despite receiving in excess of £120m in PL TV/Prize money and potentially over £170m in total revenue.’ Then 2 paragraphs later: ‘Is this to make the club a more prospective and viable option to a potential owner? I really hope so.’ Why would Ashley sell something for the price just over 2 thirds more than he can make every year? Stavely was a rouse, expect another when Rafa is poached.
    As for every ar$ehole that goes to games and buys puma, funds this dictatorship. Stop going or shut your gobs.

  • JonMag

    Let`s hope the Fat [email protected]@k dies, sooner rather than later

    • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

      Your disgusting.

      • SuperDesHamilton

        What you gonna do about it? You little flapper

        • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

          Hull cardiff man city so on and so forth take your pick or I’m in the three mile Friday night after graft, walkway down the side of it, can have a nice straight fair fight out the way of cctv etc take you pick. It can be so straight forward and easy this is you actually want it to be.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Hahahaha yes! Finally a response. It’s like fish in a barrel this, you couldn’t fight sleep

          • Mike Adam

            Yes, an enormous stick you stir with.

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            He’s into lots of people I’ve noticed trying to wind them up but me in particular, I’ve got right under his skin even though he won’t admit it. I think he’s some mental health issues he needs to get sorted.

          • Mike Adam

            Talks a load of rubbish. Said to me last week, “don’t you have something productive to do on a Saturday in America, like a school shooting? Saying things like that are over the top, whether tongue in cheek or not.
            The interesting thing to me is, why isn’t he singled out as a troll by the self-proclaimed troll police on here like Jezza? It is the ones like SDH that are the true trolls, not those of use who simply have different opinions about football than the experts/troll police. So I would ask Jezza and friends, if you are truly legit as you proclaim, why don’t you speak out against the real trolls on here???

          • Dillon Tovak

            Wow, trying to fight people now are we? 🤦🏻‍♂️

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            Aye but he keeps bottling it. I give up.

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            He’s had two chances no more.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Scared

          • SuperDesHamilton

            He’s a whopper 😂😂😂 couldn’t fight sleep bless him

  • Scott Robinson

    Just another none event pre-season. Could be worse, a lot worse, think SAFC.
    Has football moved on since the 70’s or 90’s? Players are faster and fitter due to intensive training, but how many times do you see someone skin a man or nutmeg him. Not much excitement, is there?

    The 1970 world cup team and the 1990 team would have trounced the current England team. Not one current player would get in either, or in the Sven England teams. So what are we really watching in the Premiership?

    It is so dull and hyped. Even the England fans had only 3 songs, one the national anthem. The fans are dull cardboard copies of the past. Any protest at NUFC these days would be waving white hankies in comparison to the past. The lacklustre lethargy is like the plague and you can smell it everywhere NUFC. Rant over.

    • Jezza

      Spot on. Football today is infinitely inferior in every aspect to the game I grew up with and followed back in the 70’s and 80’s.

  • Tony English

    We all still see this from our point of view as fans, for Ashley this is now a business (not the fun ego enhancing challenge he maybe originally bought into) so take everything you believe as a fan – and reverse it.

    The opening of the article outlined the Premier League income and revenue, Ashley looks at that and then weighs up how much of it he’d have to spend to compete, for him SPENDING WOULD BE THE GAMBLE, quite the opposite of the premise of this article, surviving is enough – even in relegation he’s banked enough in parachute payments and player sales to financially manage the situation and get us back to the top table quick smart.

    “Mike Ashley…said…the manager…given every penny the club generated…no work is being done to…..generate…income”

    Work IS being done to generate income, it’s just questionable as to which business the income is paid to. We know the world stage the Premier League gives to Ashley’s free advertising in St.James’, he’s weighed up the pros and cons of selling this space and paying for his own advertising elsewhere, he’s decided what’s BEST FOR HIM.

    We don’t know the details of the deal with Puma, but I’m sure it’s enabled him to cut a better deal for their products to sell in his shops, increasing his profit margin in that business but generated by his link to our club.

    Revenue has increased since 2007, for one of his businesses.

  • robbersdog

    Ashley sees NUFC as a marketing vehicle for Sports Direct…and nothing more.

    • Jezza

      Oh come on, that’s not fair at all. He also sees our club as a cash cow to line his pockets with television money and transfer profits.

  • Weyhhadaway

    You are missing the point on the commercial revenues, our commercial activities run through SD, not the Club. Therefore we don’t see the actual numbers behind the deal, every Prem clubs revenue has gone through the roof except ours, on paper at least. A look at the way the rangers deals were done should give you some idea, i don’t recall all of the numbers but they got a pittance form their deal with SD. It is another way for SD to quietly drain money out of the club.

  • SuperDesHamilton

    Asset stripping at its finest. Can’t wait till Pardew takes over next season

  • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

    😂🤣😂🤣

  • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

    Who’s meeting me for a pint at hull next week then? Super duuper des available?

    • Dillon Tovak

      Tumbleweed

    • SuperDesHamilton

      I’ll be down, you’ll be scared or trying to get me in a toilet

      • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

        I’ve told you I’m the three mile Friday night or at hull cardiff man city etc I go to them all. I can’t be any more straight forward than this but deep down in getting the impression your not up for it, bottling like you did the other week. Your weird responses show your immaturity and also make you look to everyone else and me that your bottling it, like I said it can be so easy this you know where I am Friday night and at hull next week give me a shout I will not to respond to anymore messages unless it’s for the obvious, you sad sad little troll.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          You’re absolutely raging over a stranger on the internet 😂😂😂 it’s brilliant how much I’ve wound you up. Three mile is a bar like powerhouse

        • Dillon Tovak

          Tommy Robinson fan who claims to fight for freedom of speech until its something he doesn’t agree with and wants to meet up with strangers he’s spoken to on the internet.
          Have a look at yourself.
          Our immature responses are simply cos you’re coming across as a complete joke.

          • Mike Adam

            Neither right here IMO. One stirs for the joy of the reaction and the other threatens physical harm in response. Both are antagonists and both are wrong IMO.
            But Dillon, some take “freedom of speech” much too far, when its sole purpose is to wind people up to get an admitted reaction from them. Again just my opinion. We are all human beings, and supposedly on the same side as NUFC supporters, you would think that we would treat each other with more respect.
            Or as was suggested to me by Super DH last Saturday, “don’t you have something productive to do?”

          • Dillon Tovak

            I’m not here to antagonise.
            I said, mike Ashley will be here until he dies (which sadly will be a long time away) and he said it was a sick thing to say.
            I’m now taking the P out of his hypocrisy when he uses tommy Robinson as his name and defended it by banging on about free speech. And additionally laughing at him for trying to organise fights on here.

          • Mike Adam

            I was referring to Des and Lhc# as both being antagonists, not you.
            I just said to you that IMO some take it too far, like I believe both of them did in this situation. I am not judging, but you seemed to ignore Des’s part as free speech. IMO what he does is prue trolling and antagonizing. And Lhc# is definately a hypocrite to some extent, but some people cross the line with their banter and should really think before they say some things. Again, just my opinion, as we are all supposedly NUFC fans and human beings and shoul treat each other with a bit more respect.