When a team I supported last won a significant trophy, I was 12 days old.

The World Cup in 1966.

It is a significant trophy to say the least. I probably celebrated with a bottle or two, like most good nights, but I can’t remember very much.

Since then, pickings have been pretty slim. Fortunately, I have actually been at a final where I thought I could see a win, sadly it was against a pretty good Arsenal team in 98.

However, I don’t get the negativity about England. I know some of our players have been snubbed, but who can forget Beardsley’s contribution in ‘86, or Waddle, Shearer etc.

I was lucky enough to be in Cagliari just before the ‘90 World Cup (with 25 SQN RAF Leeming) with a few Geordies and Mackems, when we bumped into some of the England team (see photo attached).

I love England, and I know it sounds like a lot of Geordies who appear not to be bothered “like” , but I don’t go with that. I bet they wouldn’t have said the same to Gazza!

England went on to play like winners in Italia ’90 but with decisions and penalties it wasn’t to be. And as we all know, that is football.

We are not unique…but when we lost the penalty shoot out, I was at work with a whole squadron that night (luckily our country was not attacked), and I will freely admit I went out and cried, I really thought we would get to the final.

I got to Wembley in ‘98, and for the lads who were there, we had waited a bloody long time and enjoyed every minute despite losing. There is nothing like it.

And I think my point is, when England get to the final, won’t you be so bloody excited you will have to admit that you are a patriot.

I really don’t get the anti-England thing, and as weird as it sounds, when England score the goal that wins the World Cup, I’d even hug a Mackem…

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  • SuperDesHamilton

    I have no interest in England at all. I support Newcastle & that’s it. A couldn’t think of anything worse than cheering on Jordan Henderson passing sideways for 90 minutes or two full backs running inside & passing back non stop, no thanks

  • Paul Patterson

    The time period you have referenced has long gone. Now England means jack s**t to me. I was over in Germany in Euro 96 and for a couple of games the atmosphere was great (as I can remember). I was only about 14 and with my school, but I think it was when we were playing Holland/Scotland. We were back home before the Germany Semi-Final.

    It was great watching England and you honestly felt the upswell of feeling towards the team ‘It’s Coming Home’ etc.
    It’s now been diluted to the point of sickness levels of boredom. During the noughties, caps were given out to any Englishmen that could kick a ball. Added onto the fact that they are all jumped up a*******s that I can’t even remotely bring myself to get connected with.
    Swap your Seaman’s, Psycho’s, Adams’, Ince’s, Gazza’s, Shearer’s and you have a bunch of pompus, self entitled p****s that aren’t even fit to lace their boots (with certain exceptions).
    Then there’s the southern bias against the north (Football and political) It really is ‘Us and them’. These days I tend to find myself wishing Scotland and Ireland well.
    Keep England as a London concern. I’m Newcastle orientated and that’s the way it shall stay I’m afraid.

    • Wor Lass

      Paul, the North/South divide is a myth. Of the 23 players in the final squad, 12 are from the North (Everton, Burnley, Man C, Man U and L`pool), 2 are from the Midlands (Leicester and Stoke) and 8 are from the South (Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea). More significantly, 20 of the 23 come from this season`s top 6 and last season`s champions.Our two were a bit unlucky not to get in but one needs to improve his distribution and skills on the ball, maybe, and the other blotted his copybook with, basically, a racist incident which he didn`t have the courage/nous to own up to and apologise for. Plenty of other players will be aggrieved not to have gone eg Wilshire, Lallana and Livermore (one from the South, one from the North and one from the Midlands).

      • Paul Patterson

        Anything past the Watford Gap is north to many down there..

        • Wor Lass

          That is true, though!

      • Gallowgate Dave

        Spot on comment. It makes us look really paranoid and parochial when we harp on about this. Ironically I think there are plenty of reasons we should be angry like lack of political influence and investment in our area but Southgate’s selections aren’t a conspiracy. Lascelles and Shelvey both had decent cases for inclusion but so did some others that missed out and as your comment proves there is no geographical bias, I think undoubtedly when it’s a 50/50 though the “big club’s” player will get the nod.

        • Leazes.

          Not just those things the list does go on and on, look at the dumping ground for old rail stock, lack of transport infrastructure, London awards itself 18 billion on 2 mainline stations and so on…..

  • Viru leckworth

    I concur. I also get irate when people with little knowledge of football, are sarcastic about England football team. It brings to mind a comment years ago by Denis Norden. He was showing a clip Of Kevin Whatley saying he supported Newcastle and NOrden commented, ‘well someone has to.’ PEople with no passion for football should keep their comments to themselves.

  • Tino11

    I still support England and watch the matches and still enjoy watching them in tournaments, they are my national country after all. But do I still enjoy them as much as the 1986 – 2010 years? No I’m afraid not.

  • Big Hairy Man

    Agree with most of it even though the setup is London biased, apart from the hugging Mackems bit. I’d rather hug a haddock.

  • East Durham Mag

    Money and players egos are what it’s all about now. I can’t get excited about England playing now and Paul Patterson hit the nail on the head when he said Euro 96 was the last time he got into it. The pure commercialism of it now is nauseating. I’m not sure if i will even bother to watch it at home let alone make the effort to go to a pub to watch it. I can’t begin to connect with the big time Charlies now wearing 3 Lions shirts. Sad yes, apathy yes.

  • Scottie Chugger Dearden

    In Italia 90 they were a team and a manager who genuinely cared, and when we lost the semi final you could see the hurt, in 2006 when we were supposed to be in mourning those champagne charlies were out on the drink with their wags as if they were heroed so sorry if I have no love for modern players and their egos, I’m sure when they get kicked out in the second round if they qualify they’ll get over it in their million pound houses!

  • Brian Standen

    Each to their own Gus, I’m just a tad older than you but have zero interest in the WC, maybe because when we were growing up live games were rare on TV ( FA cup final etc) and then the WC came along along and it was a novelty with games every day!
    Now we are swamped with live games daily and it’s boring, ok slightly off subject I admit but i really have zero interest even in watching England

  • TheNutJob

    if i diven`t stand for the National anthem wor kid cracks me across the nappa.

    • Rich Lawson

      Quite rightly !

  • Dillon Tovak

    Started early then 🍻

  • 1957

    The last time a team Gus supports won a trophy was 1966, the last time for me was 1969. It’s staggering to think 11th June next season will be the 50th anniversary.

    Who did he support between 66 and the 98 cup final?

    • Leazes.

      God I was there…. on the Popular side….christ I’m old.

      • 1957

        It’s a European season I’ll never forget and not just for winning, the game against Setubal in the blizzard, going to Glasgow for the first leg against Rangers, the home game and the empty bottles on the cinder track after the riot, Moncur’s two goals in the final first leg. Yep I’m getting old but I wouldn’t have missed those days for anything, my kids/grandkids will never see anything like it.

  • Leazes.

    Maybe its a Northern thing Mr Gillespie, not just Geordies but I’ve heard the same thing said by Scousers and Mancs…. the feeling you are British rather than English, which seems to be the thing…. Your name is Gillespie well doesn’t that tell you something?

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Scousers have to make everything about themselves, when I was on holiday a met a few who said their nationality was scouse….embarrassing

      • Leazes.

        Not really when their ancestry is hugely Welsh and Irish.

        • TheNutJob

          no wonder they are crackers

          • Leazes.

            I wouldn’t say that….ours is largely Scots Irish and British.

          • Canticanticanti

            No surprise – no debate. Just nothing there. That’s you
            Has Leazes. ever lived in Manchester or Liverpool? Obviously not – I have & he’s talking out his hoop again here

        • SuperDesHamilton

          Is Liverpool in England?

          • Leazes.

            Is this a trick question?

          • SuperDesHamilton

            If your thick then it could be

      • Gallowgate Dave

        Oh dear I’d describe myself as Geordie rather than English, just don’t feel that connection like I do to my area. There’s probably some Scouser on a message board somewhere calling me an embarrassment after meeting me on holiday.

        • SuperDesHamilton

          That’s low when you’re getting abused off them scum bags

  • paul mclaughlan

    I’ll start showing an interest again once the players do.

    • Leazes.

      Is everyone on here who supports England of Gaelic decent lol :)

      • Wor Lass

        I am!

        • TheNutJob

          🐸.

          • Leazes.

            Are you entitled to a tartan Nut?

          • TheNutJob

            i don`t think so my grandad was from Chester le St
            moved up to Newcastle when he married gran.

          • Leazes.

            If your surname is scots then you can

          • TheNutJob

            It` English i think

          • Leazes.

            What do you mean you think…. have you never looked up your own name to see where it comes from?

          • Canticanticanti

            Yeah – now you show some simmering racism Leazes.
            No surprise – no debate. Just nothing there. That’s you

          • Dillon Tovak

            My surname is Scottish and it means shi*ty stream.

        • Leazes.

          Well done join the clans

      • Davey drape

        Plastic paddy born wallsend

        • Leazes.

          You see that’s what Simon Van der Velde was missing in all his characters that he puts on this site….. its the Gaelic edge.

          • Davey drape

            don’t know about simon VDV but i knew a Harry VDV from Rawdon court Wallsend. legend

          • Leazes.

            He writes most of the articles on the mag under different aliases mainly names from Devon and Gloucestershire.

        • paul mclaughlan

          Who me? Walker born and bred mate. Although I live in Wallsend now.

      • paul mclaughlan

        My mothers maiden name was McCumiskey. Camon engerland

      • panther

        mines viking, been here about 1000 yrs, so when we bomb out I can suport Norway

        • Leazes.

          fair enough…..I have a bit of Viking blood, great isn’t it?

          • panther

            I do lobe drinking, rapeing and pillaging

  • TheNutJob

    i`m supporting Engerland & Serbia then in the latter stages Germany
    😂😂😂

    • Leazes.

      Is that for football or Wars?

      • TheNutJob

        football, i was born in Germany

        • Leazes.

          You have no sign of an accent

          • TheNutJob

            i was only 3 when we left Germany, my Dad speaks German

          • Leazes.

            Where did you go Poland?

          • TheNutJob

            😂😂😂
            never been there. after Germany it was Winchester

          • Leazes.

            So no Geordie roots at all?

          • TheNutJob

            of course Mam & Dad both born in Newcastle

          • Leazes.

            Ah I thought your dad was a German

          • TheNutJob

            No he was in the Army, Michael joined when he was 18
            i wasn`t cut out for it

          • Leazes.

            flat feet?

          • TheNutJob

            no it was bad enough being an Army brat

          • Canticanticanti

            Let me surmise – 6x rubbish comments.
            No surprise – no debate. Just nothing there. That’s you

          • Geordieguy

            What did leazes ever do to you ? Did he boff your wife or something ?

          • Paul Patterson

            German army? 😮

          • TheNutJob

            😂😂😂
            British Army, engineers

    • Wor Lass

      As long as Joachim keeps his fingers out of his shreddies!

      • TheNutJob

        😂😂😂
        it’s always best to have a backup team, mine is Germany

        • Wor Lass

          You`re a footy trivia man – who`s the only manager to sit through a world cup campaign with his dik out?

          • TheNutJob

            no idea

          • Wor Lass

            You should, being a Jorman – it was Helmut Shown!

          • TheNutJob

            😂😂

          • Paul Patterson

            Helmut Strokker.

          • Peaky

            😂😂😂

  • TheNutJob

    match isn`t much cop, no goals

    • SuperDesHamilton

      But, but, but Mitrovic is the best striker ever 👀

      • TheNutJob

        not getting much service today

        • SuperDesHamilton

          It’ll be Benitez fault

          • TheNutJob

            😂😂😂
            there`s some that would blame him

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Especially on this site 😩😂

        • Wor Lass

          That overhead effort would have been some goal – and VAR would have reversed the ref`s decision, I think. Shame it didn`t go in.

          • TheNutJob

            if he scores a couple in the WC Ryder will be shouting
            £40m

  • TheNutJob

    match on, Mitro to score in the 2nd half

    • Leazes.

      Just missed one… thats £5m off the price

      • TheNutJob

        try telling Ryder that, he started the £20m rumour

      • Canticanticanti

        Can’t disagree with this one

  • TheNutJob

    Mitro, 2 chances, 2 misses. £10m

    • Dave Mitchison

      Messi 1 penalty 1 miss. Means nothing. He played well, brought others in to the game and linked the pkay up, give the lad a break.

      • JonMag

        the team he was playing against is shyte, £20m not in this lifetime and have there been any bids, NO !

      • 1957

        I expect the Serbian manager will have him as a starter for the next game, every international striker has games he doesn’t score in, Shearer had a terrible run before the 96 Euro Championships I remember

      • Leazes.

        Congrats on having a Geordie name

        • Canticanticanti

          No surprise – no debate. Just nothing there. That’s you
          Leazes. And this time a veiled insult

        • Dave Mitchison

          Thank me mam and dad for that

          • Leazes.

            More your Dad really….. thanks Mr, Mitchison.

  • CaptainCaveman

    I love watching England play cricket and rugby but I no longer feel any connection with the England football team. I think it went when the Lion of Gosforth retired from international duty and then the embarrassing performances at the last few tournaments.

    • Paul Patterson

      That knarked me as well. He was getting stick from England fans, then he retired, then after he started doing well for us under Sir Bobby, they all wanted him to return.

    • Leazes.

      Yes I understand that except for cricket and rugby which are truly appalling pastimes.

      • JonMag

        I`d rather sit on the bog reading posts by bobbi than watch cricket

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    Where do I start. I stopped supporting England when Supermac scored five goals in one game and got dropped. Some England managers went to every Premier league ground even Sunderland but not Newcastle. If you think Jordan Henderson is better than Shelvey or some of the centre half;s better than Lecelles good luck to you as Southgate will need it. I hate Harry Kane for putting our centre half out for two months and no respective action taken and Deli Ali for holding on to the ball with his hands and getting Shelvey sent off on purpose. Can I support these cheats not a chance in hell. I know lots of supporters of our club and only two back England and even they not going this time.

    • JonMag

      not surprising if they are all [email protected]@king idiots like you

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Agree but why does Shelvey get done and not Kane because one plays for a London club and England being going on for years.

    • Brian Standen

      Well said

    • benmagpie

      Agreed. Kane the blue eyed boy. Imagine if that had been shelvey.

      • TheNutJob

        Shearer, Lennon, England`s Captain & blue eyed boy

    • TheNutJob

      Henderson can`t lace Jonjo`s boots but it`s no reason to slag the guy off
      he doesn`t pick the team Southgate does

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Did I slag him off just said he is not as good as Shelvey. There seems to be bias against Newcastle for some reason.

      • Dillon Tovak

        He does look too thick to tie laces you’re right.

  • JonMag

    I`ll always support England & any player that wears the shirt,
    forget about club rivalry, it`s about your country

    • Leazes.

      Unfortunately my country was absorbed by England …. I didn’t know you were German Moose I thought you were Chinese

      • TheNutJob

        😂😂😂😂
        on form today

        • Leazes.

          Northumbria… Bernicia…. the Marches, the Debatable Lands, The Borders, The bit beyond the control of the Prince Bishops…..or as Tory MP and historian Rory Stewart called it the ‘Middleland’…. I think he was spot on.

          • Dillon Tovak

            Are you going to vote for Norxit?

      • Mark Potter

        Well over 1,000 years ago, and you are still banging on about it. Really?

        Especially when you probably have no idea whether Northumbria from before 954 AD is indeed your country, in the sense that most of your direct ancestors were living there at the time.

  • JonMag

    1 comment on Mitrovich, if Fulham offer £15m for him then take their hand off

    • Wezza147

      Same here – he wasn’t great today and missed a 1v1. 15M take it but Rafa will see a small fraction of it. Maybe.

  • skarabrae

    Im sorry, but I’ve never experienced any “anti-England” stuff from nufc supporters??!!!
    Only apathy with the performance of England teams (you can thank the greed of the fa & the premier league for this)
    Or maybe your confusing the frustration of nufc players being overlooked for “anti-England “??

    • Leazes.

      FEKOFF MORON

      • skarabrae

        Really??!!

        • Leazes.

          I’m blocking you!

          • skarabrae

            😱😰😰😰😰😫😫😫😫😫

            Ok, I’m over it now 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🍺

          • Canticanticanti

            No surprise – no debate. Just nothing there. That’s you Leazes.

      • TheNutJob

        not like you to lose your temper
        😠😠

        • Leazes.

          Looked at his back posts he’s a WUM

          • skarabrae

            A tad paranoid me thinks 🤔

  • TheNutJob

    is Billy Joel still alive ?

    • Leazes.

      Yes he looks like Lee Ryder now bald as a coot.

      • TheNutJob

        it was bait for Peaky
        😂

        • Leazes.

          I know but you don’t get info like this from him….he’s probably still waiting for a train to get back.

  • Mayor Vaughn

    Only room for one poor team in my life.

  • Mayor Vaughn

    I support the cricket and rugby teams but i can’t stand the football team, i’m not even sure why, i can remember being enthralled watching Mexico 86, Italia 90, Euro 96 but somewhere between then and now it all changed. I just don’t feel that they represent me in the slightest.

  • mactoon

    What anti England thing are you referring to?

    • paul mclaughlan

      I think it’s more an apathy.

      • mactoon

        I love the world cup and there is no apathy or anti England here, I can’t wait for tomorrows game

        • paul mclaughlan

          Fingers crossed. I did have a little feeling before the last euros that we might do really well. Up until we faced the mighty Iceland. This WC, nowt.

      • Mike D

        Despondency for me.

  • Canticanticanti

    I read the Mag all the time but ain’t created a profile until today. I’ve done it to say that r/ Leazes. is an absolute misery pit. I’ve seen him comment pure negativity on every article/comment there is. This article is a great example – he’s singled out somebody who he doesn’t agree with then gone on to block them. He adds nothing to this site – it’s a great site (but does have issues about Mackem watching) but I look at his comments & think that those kind of comments are borderline trolling genuine NUFC fans. Life is tough – why let this p-narse make it worse?
    As I’ve only just created a Disqus profile I don’t know how to tag him in it – if somebody can invite him for me……

    • Leazes.

      I’ve just blocked you.

      • Canticanticanti

        No surprise – no debate. Just nothing there. That’s you

        • Sickandtired

          So, your first post is about someone commenting on here? Who is trolling who here?

          • Canticanticanti

            My first post is highlighting the negativity that we need to watch out for – NUFC is us & NUFC has been tough of late. And one of the top commenters is Leazes. He comments on pretty much everything & all his comments are negative. I mention this to try & engage him in debate so this site might “improve” but he blocks me straight away. Echo chamber? Yes – cause the comment I was on was him blocking somebody anyway!

          • Brian Standen

            He threatened to chin me and never showed up lol

          • Leazes.

            I couldn’t be bothered to say it…. its probably Clarko…someone who doesn’t understand black humour.

        • Monkseaton Magpies

          He thinks I live in Manchester have a season ticket at old Trafford, bobbi fleckman is my brother and Clarko is my dad so do not take it to heart and keep on contributing as we need balanced view thanks.
          P.S not blocked you but most on here have blocked me very sad

      • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

        😂 your like a child.

    • Hughie_Gallacher

      You’re dead wrong. He’s one of the few on here whose contributions are usually substantial, to the point, and often backed up with verifiable sources.

      Whether he is negative or not is totally irrelevant.

    • Albert Stubbins

      You sound even more miserable to be honest!!

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    Like most on here I support the England Rugby Team and The Cricket Team etc, But cannot abide England Football Team !
    I think there is a genuine disconnect between the populace and the England team with a lot of people citing it as a Southern entity which doesn’t represent them.
    Added to the fact that they are a constant national embarrassment that no one wants to associate themselves with.

    When the person writing the article says they don’t get the reasons why, Well I do fully when it comes to people from Newcastle.
    We have always been marginalised and been made to feel foreign in this country so I get the fact Geordies don’t identify with it.

    • Sickandtired

      Speak for yourself.

    • Leazes.

      I divvent like rugby or cricket

    • Mark

      What a load of rubbish. I don’t get this paranoia about the south? Wembley is in the capital of the country, do you expect it to be in Berwick? There has been plenty of Geordies’ playing for England and adored by all. We had an England manager also a Geordie.

      • X,WHY,Y MAN.

        So Geordies and other groups in this country haven’t been marginalised politically by the South over the years ?
        I have pals who are Scousers who don’t care a jot for England because of the way they were treated in the past !

  • Albert Stubbins

    I love England but am devoted to Newcastle. If they do well I’ll be over the moon as will most toon fans i expect. It’s just hard to get that excited about a team you only see play about five times a year that’s all. No doubt f they get to the semis I’ll be as fervent an England follower as the next man. That’s just international football I’m afraid.

    • Leazes.

      I look forward to the London press corps finding new ways to attack the hapless manager each time they fail….its hilarious. Gareth Southgate was born in Watford so he should be safe as it counts as C**kney, well at least until the end of the next European Championships which is what this squad is about in reality.

      • Paul Patterson

        Failure to get out of the group and he’ll be a Cauliflower not a c***ney . .

        • Leazes.

          Impossible to fail group stage I would have thought.

          • X,WHY,Y MAN.

            Aye, But your talking about London Utd here, So I wouldn’t put it past them to not get out of the group stages.
            Just looking forward to the Pardewesque excuses when it all goes wrong yet again lol

      • X,WHY,Y MAN.

        Gareth Southgate is a loser !, And that is why he has the England job.

  • Desree

    Try getting up at 4am in winter to watch Tunisia try harder