In a few years time, thousands of Newcastle supporters will be reaching the end of their ten year price freeze deals on season tickets, so the announcement of 18/19 Newcastle United season ticket prices has been greeted with keen interest, not only among those outside of the price freeze who suffer from the increases immediately, but also from those on a fixed deal that have been largely insulated from the fluctuation in prices while Mike Ashley has owned the club.

It’s worth looking at how prices have progressed over the last decade to understand where a 20% increase comes from for people this year, how it compares over the course of Ashley’s ownership, what it might mean for the future and how prices compare with other clubs.

How did we get to a 20% increase?

None of what follows is to say that those facing are 20% increase in their annual cost compared to last season are not completely justified in their anger.

Whatever the explanation for such a rise, it has not been shared by the club and little care has been taken to help supporters transition from a “low cost” ticket to high.  This is worrying as a precedent for those on long term deals facing a greater transition in 2021.  However, the increase this season has been on the horizon for a while.  People would have to have been paying very close attention to work this out for themselves though, the club have not publicised it at all.  This is how prices have progressed recently.

Following relegation into the championship the club dropped all season tickets by 10%.

After promotion they increased prices by 15%  and 10% of that reinstated the prices from 15/16.  The net increase from the last premier league season (15/16) to the next (17/18) was 5%.The crux here is that nobody experienced any increase whatsoever at this time, all existing season ticket holders prices were frozen, not just those on the 10 year deal. Only people that bought a new season ticket last year paid the new full price, and it was just the cost of a new ticket to them.

This year there is another 5% increase for everyone not on a ten year deal. Those that had championship season tickets without being on a ten year deal experience this renewal as a 20% increase for 18/19 following their 17/18 price freeze – £108 in the Gallowgate, £133 in the east stand, £68 in the family enclosure..

The approach to a season spent in the championship has been very similar to the previous relegation when prices were dropped 9% for the 09/10 season and then increased 10% following promotion for the 10/11 season. A more manageable 1% net increase overall back then.

How have prices changed over the last Decade?

The 10% drop in season ticket prices for the Championship ensured the cost to new season ticket holders was LESS in 16/17 than the prices people on 10 year fixes took up initially five years earlier in 11/12.  This shouldn’t be a surprise, a club going backwards and dropping down the league will be required to alter prices to encourage new supporters to commit.

Our Premier League prices increased minimally from 2010 (the frozen price)  to 2015, 6.4% (in the Gallowgate & Leazes) over 5 years, 1.3% per year. The benefits of being locked in were more to Mike Ashley (assuring him of income despite his constant mistakes) than supporters who saved less than £10 a year in the first half of their deal.

As the price lock deal nears an end though, with Benitez at the helm, the increases seem to have accelerated, because they can.  From 2015 to 2018 the increase has been 8.6%  (Gallowgate and Leazes) in 3 years, 2.9% a year. More than doubling the rate of increase. This acceleration of price increases was temporarily halted by relegation. Taking that out of the equation, the increases from one Premier League season to the next, as outlined above, have been 5% a year, almost 4 times the previous 5 year average increase.

So far, with the accelerated rate of increase, those on a ten year deal have avoided increases totalling 20% over 7 years.

newcastle united season ticket prices

Since 2007, 11 years from the day Ashley arrived to the current date, standard price season ticket increases exceed 30%.

Newcastle United season ticket prices

This is below inflation which stands at 33.3% since July 2010. Only Platinum Club season ticket holders have exceeded this rate of growth.

How much might prices have changed by the time your ten year deal ends?

If they continue, annual 5% increases will culminate in a big hit in the pocket for those coming out of ten year deals. Derek Llambias stated in 2011 that “supporters who sign up can rest assured that the price of their season ticket in 2020/21 will be exactly the same as it is now.”

Everyone on those deals would always have been expecting a big increase after 2021. This wouldn’t have necessarily materialised to any significant degree if the trend continued as it was prior to 2015. The ramping up in recent seasons seems (to a cynic like me) to be geared towards ensuring people accept as big an increase as possible that summer, when they’re prepared for it.

It’s impossible to know what increases the club will implement, if any, over the 2 seasons subsequent to 18/19.  We can’t know if they’ll still have Rafa drawing the crowds or Premier League status. That obvious caveat aside, extrapolating the 5% increases we’ve seen over the last two seasons over the next two seasons, we can calculate the standard cost of a ticket by 2020/2021 in each stand.

Newcastle United season ticket prices

Lots of supporters have taken out different deals at different times with people forced into moves paying less than others in the same areas and nine or eight year deals offered subsequent to the ten year offer, so individual increases will differ, but I’ve used the standard cost of a season ticket in 10/11, which I believe was what most entered into in 11/12, to estimate the size of price increases those on long term deals might have to prepare for.

How do Prices at Newcastle compare with other clubs?

30% increases will be a lot for people to absorb in one season if they materialise, but would it bring those supporters in line with those of other clubs?  Newcastle United fans were paying a premium for tickets before Ashley arrived, as a club we looked to compete and without owners willing to fund that with their own investment, supporters absorbed much of the cost of European pursuits. Supporters were happy to do so when European qualification was achieved and the club broke it’s transfer record consistently to continue to be competitive. Mike Ashley has been very clear, he does not perceive Newcastle to be that sort of club anymore. He perceives us as a mid-table also ran club (if we’re lucky), one that has to live within our means.

If expectations are to be kept low, then you would expect ticket prices to reflect that, but according to the BBC price of football survey for 2017 if you take the top six out of the equation, Newcastle already had the costliest “cheap” season tickets north of Southampton last season. Newcastle also sold the costliest “expensive” tickets north of West Ham.

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Also note, that the cheapest ticket at Newcastle reported by the BBC is limited to a few dozen seats in the North West corner.  The cheapest standard season ticket sold in large numbers for 18/19 will be the £628 tickets in the Gallowgate and Leazes. That price is more than six clubs charged for their most expensive tickets in 2017.

The geographical element of this is important too.  There’s a far greater cost of living and average wage the further south you go. Adding 5% to these prices in 2018 and potentially beyond, will only exacerbate the discrepancy for us as the northernmost club.

Ultimately though, the club offers seats at a range of prices that while high in my opinion, don’t necessarily make us massive outliers in the league, it places us towards the high end, but if the stadium can be filled, then the rules of supply and demand dictate the price is right.

That said, we know from the Ashley model at his shops that his modus operandi is to confuse and mislead his customers into what they see as a bargain, being as opaque as possible on what the “savings” are.

Supporters are confused as to why they get the price they do, how it differs from the standard price and when it will change. If the club are freezing prices, leading to 20% and 30%  jumps, it’s crucial to communicate as quickly and clearly as possible, via all communication channels available, what they should expect to pay and when. Online user accounts should detail both the standard price and the reduced price of a season ticket holders seat, as well as the date when their deal will expire, so they’re fully aware of what to expect.

Springing a 20% cost increase on fans the day renewals open, weeks before the new season starts, only serves to generate resentment at odds with the good will the manager and players are doing great work to develop.

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  • JonMag

    i wouldn`t let it worry you to muc by 2021 we`ll be playing the Mackem`s in league one

    • Paul Patterson

      At the rate we’re going, we certainly won’t have Rafa.

      • JonMag

        this time next year there`ll be another patsy in place, no decent manager will touch Newcastle with a barge pole

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    Just had a look at Tottenham’s season ticket prices for non corporate areas.
    The cheapest season tickers a handful behind the goal are £795.00 and they progress to a staggering £1995.00 with a variety of jumps. We have had it good under Mike Ashley that is for sure with regards price. Most of Liverpool’s season tickets a working class area are seven to nine hundred so count ourselves luck.
    At Arsenal most pay between one and two thousand but that does include six cup games. Get over it and buy your ticket. I have six season tickets to pay for.

    • JonMag

      if you live and work in London those prices are not that expensive,
      in addition they actually have top players & play in Europe,

    • Paul Patterson

      At the Stadium of S***e doesn’t count . .

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Is that where you reside as you seem to hate our great club. Must be Jezzas brother now he is back at the stadium of light .

    • grantham mag

      And they all play in Europe and have world class players.
      PS. I won’t be buying a season ticket until Ashley’s dead and gone, or he sells the club and yes that’s my choice.

      • TheNutJob

        i`d rather pay top wack & watch a good team than the garbage Fatty dishes up.

    • TheFatController

      You’re yet again proving to be the man of the people’ you often claim to be.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Just saying out season tickets are cheap compared to most clubs as on the ten year deal. Cannot thank Mike enough the saving pay’s for a holiday.

        • JonMag

          the teams cheap as well & getting cheaper by the season.
          once Rafa leaves you can once again look forward to championship football

        • TheFatController

          Most clubs have given better product, it could be argued.

          You paid expecting one thing, and they delivered something far less enjoyable.

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Proud to support Newcastle home and away and to be honest could not care less if we go through bad times will be at every match.

        • Big Hairy Man

          Yes good old Uncle Mike. He’s just a big lovable, cuddly Santa.

      • KRS1

        He is a fantasist and moron!

        • Monkseaton Magpies

          Been to every home game since 1975 and at every away game have a word with your mother for not bringing you up probably and get some manners. Perhaps she was not like mine who stood proudly in the Leazes end.

          • KRS1

            Shame on your mum for spawning a sad little troll.

    • GlasgowMag

      Tell your boss to put some money into the playing squad in line with the increase then guess what nobody will be moaning!!!😂😂😂

  • Leazes.

    I’ll do a synopsis on the basis that you didn’t put any graphs in, which would have been nice.

    We were paying a premium before Ashley turned up…. he made a cheaper product and filled the ground with Charvers and priced accordingly.

    There you go!

    • TheNutJob

      excellent
      😂😂😂

    • TheFatController

      Excellent executive summary. Maybe a graph to show how lower product on pitch, and cheaper priced tickets leads to a charver supply and demand curve ?

      • Leazes.

        Thank you…..I know the audience…. Chris doesn’t.

        • TheFatController

          Chris has done some excellent work there. And I can’t read any graphs on my iPhone anyhow, so I just get screen size envy.

          And need my reading glasses.

          • Leazes.

            There aren’t any.

  • TheFatController

    The club is now concentrating on match day revenue from the fans.

    Wonder why?

    From Swiss Ramble, on the latest accounts;-

    Not only is NUFC commercial income lower than £28m that Ashley inherited, but they have fallen way behind rivals, e.g. gap to THFC has grown from £11m to £58m in that time. Unsurprisingly, annual report no longer says, “club continues to focus on maximising commercial revenue”

    So… Nothing like transferring costs onto the customer. So long as the customer is not price sensitive. Which Monkseaton Mugpie below prides himself on not being, seemingly being awash with money (from his cult followers maybe?)

    Good work Chris – look forward to updates annually.

    • Leazes.

      I look forward to the graphs.

      • TheFatController

        Well, for those with small but perfectly formed screens, the little spike is our revenue, and the big one is a well run, ambitious club’s revenue…

        • Leazes.

          There are no graphs!

          • TheFatController

            I’d like you to imagine there are.

            You know, like the trolls on here want us to imagine Ashley’s an ok owner.

          • Leazes.

            Thats ridiculous

      • Sickandtired

        Go look at Swissrambles Twitter.

  • Brian Standen

    First of all excellent insight from Chris, and it is plain and simple to understand.
    I wonder how many of the comments on here are from fans who actually go as surely they are the ones most entitled to complain!
    Fans who choose not to go and there are plenty really should not complain when they don’t pay anything in the first place!
    I get stick off plenty of those on here because I choose to go, I did in the 70s under Westwood and under the succession of owners/ chairman since then, and I will continue to do so, according to one nameless keyboard warrior on here that makes me thick!
    So in my ‘thick’opinion this rise is not too bad and is favourable compared to other club!

    • Leazes.

      Not a bad price for the product well placed for the market… poor product, downsized club….no ambition…. silent Chairman….stupid punters.

      What do you suppose he needs Benitez for then?

      • Brian Standen

        But I reiterate. Your a punter. You admitted it

        • Mark Davies

          You’re very wrong Brian. Please dont write incorrect comments!!! He’s a fifty faced punter!!

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          I’d have more respect for him if he does go to the match, that said, that’s just an improvement on my having no respect for him at all.

          • Brian Standen

            He does!! Trust me

    • TheFatController

      Agreed, but I think Chris’ point about the way Ashley is less than honest at SD about ‘value’ and ‘real discount’ are the main point.

      Communication counts for a lot in life. Just ask the ex Spain manager this week. Ashley doesn’t do it. He’ll try to use smoke and mirrors is the suggestion.

    • JonMag

      i`ve had a quick look through the posts and cant see any that are actually complaining about tickets price rises so what you on about,
      name & shame

      • Leazes.

        Who knows…..he’s an idiot

        • JonMag

          that`s that sorted then

        • Brian Standen

          We know you go…, don’t deny!

          • Leazes.

            You are a writer for the Mag……So who is Simon Van der Velde then?

          • Brian Standen

            But I’m not at all. I contribute a few articles which I hope people enjoy! And I comment on what other people say!
            As for Mag staff, of course I have met Mark a couple of times but that’s about it!

          • Leazes.

            Do you know Steve Wraith?

          • Geordiegiants

            Nobody knows what Steve Wraith looks like these days, you can only see his feet hanging out of Gangstas?🤔 hoops.

          • Brian Standen

            Only time I corresponded with Steve Wraith was when I bought a book he was involved with, he asked what I thought and would I leave a review, excellent read by the way!

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Take it that was my mates book.

      • Brian Standen

        Actually it was a separate article complaining about price rise , but there were some

    • Gallowgate Dave

      Aye winds me up too when I see match going fans described as “sheep”, “thick” and “the problem”. I fell in love with footy as a little lad and going now represents a chance for my mates and family to get together once a fortnight in our busy lives dominated by our kids. I’ll be damned if I’m going to let Ashley ruin that. They don’t have a monopoly on hating Ashley, you won’t get many in the ground daft enough to defend him and I can’t bear the man. I respect and understand the decisions of those who choose not to go and almost made the decision myself until I accepted that the social aspect was too important for me. What I don’t respect is this holier than thou attitude from some of them criticising match going fans when it’s far easier and cheaper to just not bother going and they aren’t even contributing anything constructive at all towards getting rid of him by not going. I’d rather they were in the stadium united with fellow Ashley haters protesting and embarrassing Ashley. What is sitting at home streaming it achieving like?

      • Brian Standen

        My feelings exactly

        • Monkseaton Magpies

          Please see above.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        I am not a Ashley hater and very thankful for the cheap prices and the ten year deal. What makes me sick is he has lent the club up to £150m to keep it going and all he gets is stick. He gave McClaren seventy million and we bought some great players and it was not his fault they did not perform. In fact it makes me ashamed be be a fan with the anti chants and the same with Pardew it just presents us as morons. It would be nice to see someone else putting money in for a change.

        • Gallowgate Dave

          But Monk the cheap prices and ten year freeze (which I’m on) are necessary because we are a club without ambition. Even if we agree to disagree and I concede some ground that the Ashley hatred goes too far, remarkably there are worse owners like the Venkys, Allams and Oystons, he doesn’t have the inclination or vision to push the club on. A shadowy boardroom of Lee Charnley as puppet when the real power appears to lie with Justin Barnes and Keith Bishop, zero communication with fans, a historical meddling in football affairs, truly baffling decisions made and an atrocious commercial running of the club including an exploitation of our club via the free advertising. Even the debt has doubled and it’s one of the reasons he prices us out of the market for sale. You strike me as a fella who enjoys being contrarian and swimming against the tide as you are defending the (almost) indefensible yet you have no issues slagging off Shearer, Keegan and Given so it’s not as if you are a shrinking violet. This is why people find it difficult to believe you are an NUFC fan or believe you work in PR for Keith Bishop trying to divide us on here. There’s no balance to you.

          • Brian Standen

            To be honest monkseaton does very often make good points, as do some of the people who are in the opposite camp!
            Me, I detest Ashley for his exploitation of the club but I’m damned if he is going to stop me going.

          • Sickandtired

            Give over, man! He worships the ground Ashley plods on.

            SD shareholders continue to benefit from our club, still for free despite a ‘promise’ to commence payments, while the supporters have to pay more.

          • Brian Standen

            To be honest I have a gut feeling I know him, and if it’s who I think then he is a real fan who goes to all games – and when I been close to him has always been a little bit errr exciteable! But his outright defence of MA is puzzling!

          • Sickandtired

            ‘A real fan’ and ‘outright defence of Ashley’.

            Exactly. One cannot be both unless you have a total absence of grey matter, which I admit in his case is the most likely explanation.

          • Brian Standen

            Can I ask you a question, do you still attend or do you not bother with MA there?
            A day or two ago I was called
            thick by a nameless keyboard warrior on here because I go to the games – i think gallowgatedave has similar feelings to me, why should MA drive me away?
            I am very open I detest Ashley but I do and will continue to go.

          • Sickandtired

            I no longer go, because of Ashley. What you do is your choice.
            However, your comment further up clearly states that only match goers have a right to complain! How is that any better than someone calling you thick?
            And, suggesting MM is a ‘real fan’ who nonetheless fills this site with pro Ashley comments of staggering stupidity, does warrant the criticism leveled at him.

          • Brian Standen

            If you read back I was referring to season ticket prices and complaints simply about that
            How can someone who does not go to the games complain about ticket pricing when they don’t pay anyway,
            Everyone can complain and rightly so about the antics of MA, and as I say I respect everyone’s right to an opinion!

          • Sickandtired

            I have a right to complain as does any supporter, paying, attending or not. Ashley’s antics continue to undermine the club, not strengthen it.
            It could equally be argued that by paying the increase while SD continues its free carry, is something which is being enabled by the same paying supporter.
            If you remain happy to do that, as I said, that’s your choice. It does not prevent me or anyone else from commenting or pointing out the hypocrisy of it all.

          • Brian Standen

            That to me is like complaining about the price of a tin of peas but not liking or eating them anyway!
            I don’t see the hypocrisy of going to games still though,and to be honest when I’m there I rarely even think about Ashley.
            We have differing opinions but that’s what life is all about anyway

          • Sickandtired

            Wrong analogy completely.
            It’s exactly like loving a tin of peas – but no longer being prepared to pay for them when the company uses sub standard produce and bumps the price up for the consumer anyway.

          • Brian Standen

            I concede that to you

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            The debt did not double it was all ready there and he wiped it out. We were still paying for players who had left the club years ago. It was a shambles. We were also paying Barclays seven million a year interest. The balance I have is to support the club and even if people in pubs have a go at the club will stand my ground.

          • Gallowgate Dave

            Monk the debt was approximately £75 million I believe, now it’s £155 million. That’s over double.

            If you had a 75k mortgage and a rich mate came and paid it off for you but demanded 155k when you sold your property and freedom to do what he likes to your property in the meantime I guarantee you wouldn’t be defending him.

          • Sickandtired

            And that includes £29 million he has already repaid himself.

          • Gallowgate Dave

            Good point.

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Not a good point at all. He has repaid some loans but has at times had to put more back in. Hope you saw Brians comments further down the page that he thinks he knows me and go to games so not a wind up merchant.

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            When he came in the actually debts were £135m a shambles. The to Barclays was round £70m the rest hidden in the balance sheet under creditors. On day one he cleared the decks and that meant a £135m interest free loan. Very kind of him. However his free advertising counters that off making it even.

          • Gallowgate Dave

            Let’s get real, it wasn’t “very kind of him”. It’s his asset so why would he want to pay 7 million per year in interest payments when he doesn’t need to? So the one thing you cling to – the debt – has still grown by £20 million according to you.

            On the other hand during an 11 year tenure that has included crippling lack of ambition, selling our club as a stepping stone, selling off best assets, almost zero communication, failure to compete, 2 relegations, numerous other relegation battles, Keegan’s constructive dismissal, Jonas, treatment of Shearer, atrocious commercial running of the club, Dennis Wise, Joe Kinnear (twice!), John Carver, Lee Charnley, Derek Llambias, Justin Barnes, Keith Bishop, Steve McClaren, sacking of Hughton, lack of communication with/lying to Rafa, dreadful derby record, PR spending and spin/lies, neglect of the academy, stadium renaming, absentee ownership, banning of the press, banning NUST, neglecting and trying to control the fans forum, woeful cup record, selling of Gallowgate land and the huge amount of criticism he’s attracted even outside the club (Panorama, MPs questions) yet according to you he’s a “great man”? You’re so obsessed with disputing Ashley’s failures with some of the less thoughtful contributors that you conveniently ignore a litany of his failings and whichever figures we use the debt has still increased regardless of whom it’s owed to!

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            The Halls and Shepherd owned the club yet they choose to pay £7m interest so you cannot have it both ways. Keegan walked out the club twice before he came, most fans at the tie did not want Houghton. Why should he go to matches when morons abuse him and his family. The press needed banning as they gave to much coverage to a demonstration
            which involved two hundred people. NUST were told not to publish the minutes before they were officially released. Most of your points are invalid.

          • Gallowgate Dave

            People who defend Ashley by criticising Hall/Shepherd are the same as those who defend Trump by criticising Clinton. You’re incapable of defending him so you try to divert. Just judge him on his own merits/failings man. Keegan expects people to keep their promises. At the time of his departure Hughton was universally popular, I have no idea which fans you kick about with but nobody wanted Pardew to replace Hughton and the shabby treatment of a man who restored dignity to NUFC wasn’t popular at all. Nobody has ever abused Ashley’s family. I would say the local press and Sky are complicit in Ashley’s reign as they are dependent on NUFC and exclusives respectively. I’m glad you’ve admitted he tried to manipulate and control the FANS forum, nice totalitarian bashing of free speech there Monk. “Most of my points are invalid” yet you’ve deliberately only commented on a few of them and ignored the majority.

      • Sickandtired

        Do you actually demonstrate or protest while at the match though? Words are easy, as you accuse others on here of.
        Anyone who has chosen to stop going to the match in their own protest at Ashley has already done far more than the vast majority.

        • Gallowgate Dave

          The difference is I respect and understand some genuine fans who can’t abide Ashley and his exploitation and have chosen to walk away. I almost made the same decision but just can’t do it. What I object to is when they call us match-goers sheep or thick as if they are somehow the only ones who have worked Ashley out.

          Obviously I don’t protest every game and in fact I’ve never protested under Rafa, not because I think Ashley has changed, it’s just that the players are a genuine team and I respect Rafa so they deserve our support despite the owner. But I did do the organised protests and was bitterly disappointed at how apathetic the vast majority of our support was. We definitely had an opportunity to drive him out, he bought the club to drive global exposure of his business brand and we could have embarrassed the hell out of him every game on live International TV. That would have took intelligence and organisation but could have been done, and maybe could again when Rafa inevitably walks. The opportunity has passed for now but I know one thing for sure, insulting fellow fans who love our club in a comments section and washing your hands of our club achieves nothing. We needed to fight back in a unified fashion and I’d like to see those vocal fans on here do that when that opportunity arises again, not just be keyboard warriors.

          • Sickandtired

            Then surely you can accept that many of the so called ‘supporters’ these days (in the seats) do accept whatever Ashley does? The organised protests did not attract 52,000 match-goers did they?
            Insults work both ways however. People like MM forever declaring he is a ‘super supporter’ while almost fanatically defending Ashley and denigrating Shearer etc – along with the many pseudo accountants who are known to all on here.
            As far as I am concerned, Ashley prevents my match attendance, he does not stop me being a NUFC supporter though nor voicing my extreme displeasure at what he does..

          • Gallowgate Dave

            Absolutely. That’s what I was so disappointed at – the apathy of our support. I’m really not sure this would have been tolerated in Glasgow or Liverpool like it is in Newcastle.

            My opinions are in no way connected with MM so that point couldn’t be less relevant, I frequently clash with him on here.

            As I’ve already stated I respect and understand your decision and don’t think it’s an easy one, I’ve almost made it myself but now accept I can’t walk away. What I object to is stay away supporters calling me a sheep or thick when I don’t see their personal protest as effective at all. You already know my opinion on how we could have rid ourselves of Ashley and for now the opportunity has passed. That would have taken far more commitment and effort than just not bothering to turn up though so that’s why I object to some of the holier than thou comments on here. I don’t include this conversation in that mind. We have a difference of opinion but I don’t think we’ve kept it sensible.

          • Sickandtired

            I agree with that, regarding RFC or LFC. I attended several protests even though I stopped going to the match.
            In my regard, I don’t care whether you or anyone else see’s my own abstinence as being effective. It is effective for me.
            As I maintain, it’s up to the individual how they decide to show their own dissent – or not.
            That said, it’s an undoubted fact that the composition of the crowd has changed under Ashley ownership and in many cases the criticisms made could be found to be warranted. Not to all of course, but to many for sure.

          • Gallowgate Dave

            Of course the composition has changed. It has in football in general to be honest. I was lucky enough to get free tickets with a mate to watch the FA Cup Final at Wembley this year and that alone changes the composition – we were there on a corporate jolly. Don’t get me wrong we weren’t going to turn them down but it’s indicative of the corporatisation of footy. There was a Man Utd fan sat behind me who was a canny bloke but still left 10 minutes early in a cup final when they were only 0vs1 down. I just don’t get it.

            We are far closer in opinions than we first appear, we’ve just followed different paths in our dislike of Ashley. I understand your decision and I think you understand mine. Any objection I have isn’t in how you have presented yourself today though, it’s aimed at those who accuse me and others of being a sheep or thick because I find it too difficult to walk away from the love of my club.

          • Sickandtired

            Look, there’s always going to be extremes of opinion. For every person called a ‘sheep’ there’s another espousing the virtues of Ashley.
            As for Manu – if Roy Keane can call their home crowd largely the ‘prawn sandwich brigade’ then not many could argue against it. I’d suggest that is a fairly indicative situation for many home crowds these days. The working class sport has become largely a middle class one.
            In a truly weird situation, as seen on here, you have some people who claim to be both a supporter, and support Ashley! In my opinion, their comments warrant as much criticism as they invite – or provoke.

    • Sickandtired

      That’s a load of nonsense and seems aligned with Ashley’s thinking – the only people who matter are the ones paying the money and sitting in the seats.
      NUFC has an estimated global fan base of some 6 million. According to your thinking, 5.95 million have no right to comment.

  • Graham Thompson

    The ten year freeze was extended for another 3 years at end of 2014/15 season in recognition of loyalty, therefore the price freeze for those signing up to the original 10 year deal in 2011 will now run until 2023/2024 … happy days!!

    • JonMag

      They must have thought we were going down again

    • Leazes.

      Hostages bought their own manacles and rope!

      • JonMag

        very good

      • Lhc#freetommyrobinson

        leazes – the grim reaper in troll form.

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      Hope that is true not heard that one but if true going out to celebrate even more than I normally do.

  • Leazes.

    What do you suppose he needs Benitez for then?

    • TheFatController

      To try and save us after McClaren ?

      • Leazes.

        With this set up you don’t need a trophy manager the club isn’t geared to ambition.

        • TheFatController

          He’s be expendable now if it wasn’t for those pesky supporters …

          • TheNutJob

            he`s expendable anyway, would the fans still turn up on
            11 August if Rafa`s gone ?

          • Leazes.

            Apparently so….there’s a lot on ten year deals, that’s why the atmosphere is missing they’ve signed up to run a marathon wearing flip flops and are looking down an endless road in despair.

          • Gallowgatefan

            Most of the noisy fans around me are on ten year deals mate and unlike you they try to be positive, help to get Rafa to stay against the odds and support team rather than sitting at home like a petulant kid thinking they know best.

          • Geordiegiants

            Baaaa baaaaa 🐑

          • Lhc#freetommyrobinson

            Enjoy watching soccer Saturday you sad sad man.

          • Geordiegiants

            Ive been to more Newcastle matches home and away than you will probably ever go to in your life time and had a season ticket long before you had to have one. Keep feeding Jabba until he is even fatter.

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            No chance you have, I will be beating you now on your claims and I’m 28 probably a spring chicken to you.

          • Geordiegiants

            🤣😂🤣😂🤔 Ive been there, exactly where you are, and you all think you have been to and done more. Grow up and take a telling the odd time.

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            lets agree to disagree. Difference with me is to yourself I will still go whatever age I am/owner/manager/players division etc. People are only cutting the nose off to spite there face at the end of the day each to there own tho. At away games to this day I still see older blokes faces who I seen when I first started going to away games at 8 year old, Wimbledon selhurts park 1-1 shearer and John hartson my first away game. To this day now these blokes still go so why have they not given up but you have?! More loyalty in them there the proper hardcore which we have in our fans.

          • Geordiegiants

            Fair enough, I’ve been through it all 30 years ago, and to be perfectly honest, if the fans all got together and stopped fighting each other they could get together and fight against the regime. Ther only used to be sometimes as little as 7,000 of us at wedneday night matches fighting the sack the board battle. It worked in the end with most fans dropping away they had no choice. The ones that stayed were relentless in the fight against Mckeag etc. The thing that boils my pee is the people sitting neither supporting the team or saying nothing against the regime. It’s not a fans (FANATICS) game now, it’s a pc money making machine and today’s spectators are oiling it well.

          • Lhc#Freetommyrobinson

            I agree football is changing and not for the better but it’s something I couldn’t ever give up (nufc) it would be like losing a limb. It’s a way of life. You know how it is.

          • Geordiegiants

            I know how hard it was to give up, as it was everything really, and I had already fought the younger years of my life to get shyte like Jabba out of MY club, but I have said this time and time again, it’s for the greater good of the club, I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve heard, “it’s the only time I see my kids” or “I’ve been going with my mates for years” or any other lame excuse that isn’t in the best interests of NUFC. I would be happier us falling lower and lower and going through what the peado lovers are now, if it meant the cancer would leave our club. Then I could take my kids to the match and buy them club strips. I won’t spend a penny of my money with him or any of his businesses, and there are plenty, the same as I would never ever buy halal meat.

          • Geordiegiants

            In a word, Mike Ashley! He is openly stating he isn’t trying to win anything and is also not willing to invest any money. He is taking money out of the club year on year, asset stripping every last penny he can and treating every single fan with contempt. If your happy throwing your money and loyalty at a lost cause that’s up to you, but I’ve got a bit older realised what it’s all about and decided it’s not worth it.
            I can only gues you have no kids and this your life, like I say I’ve been seen and done it and still would be if Jabba hadn’t of killed all hope we ever had of winning anything or even competing on the level playing field.

          • Leazes.

            Darn flags

    • TheNutJob

      to create an illusion of ambition

      • Leazes.

        Its not for anything approaching ambition

  • TheNutJob

    Daily Mirror reporting Newcastle to bid £20m for Andros, bet Ryder started that ball rolling
    😂😂😂

    • TheFatController

      Well, that’s price puts the season ticket inflation perspective …

    • Leazes.

      Amazing that Benitez has the same choice of players as previous managers.

      When does the Rafalution start?

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Ryder only knows 3 players that don’t play for Newcastle. Bas Dost, Townsend & Caroll

  • Leicester Mag

    Surely the point is value rather than cost? Would people pay £20 for the royal ballet if Joe Brand replaced the Prima Ballerina?

    • Leazes.

      I’d pay double to see that

      • paul mclaughlan

        Ditto.

    • TheNutJob

      if Rafa leaves Fatty would have to attend matches as Jo Brand

      • Leicester Mag

        Ashley in a tutu 😂😂🧚‍♂️

        • TheNutJob

          aye 😂

          • Leicester Mag

            #MavisCruit

      • Tino11

        Ashley is Jo Brand, never been seen in the same room together have they?…….

  • TheNutJob

    CR7 hat trick

    • Wezza147

      Don’t like him but I applaud that free kick.

      • TheNutJob

        he`s unbelievable

        • Duh

          Dubravka would have saved that 😉

          • TheNutJob

            no he wouldn`t

        • Leazes.

          Unbelievable cheat

    • Leazes.

      Cheat

  • TheNutJob

    Jabba, jabba, jabba, oot, oot, oot.
    🐖🐖🐖

  • Gallowgatefan

    There MIGHT be a large price rise but also there MIGHT be a reward for loyalty over those 10 years. I’m not an Ashley apologist but there is so much conjecture on here it’s unbelievable.