Who is the most disastrous Newcastle United Manager of the Mike Ashley era?

It’s a tricky one, isn’t it.

So many candidates but which one stands out for you.

On Friday we asked Newcastle fans that question and now we have the results after all votes counted.

The percentage support for each Newcastle Manager is below but firstly, here is the info/overview we gave supporters ahead of their vote:

We have taken out the obvious ones, you know, the ones who impressed and the fans had faith in.

The likes of Kevin Keegan and Chris Hughton, plus of course Rafa Benitez.

As for Alan Shearer, he was given an impossible job after the mess that had been created before he was brought in, eight games nowhere near enough to judge somebody on.

So what does that leave?

Sam Allardyce – Not appointed by Mike Ashley but what a disaster. Arguably shaped Ashley’s reticence to speculate in the transfer market, particularly in terms of paying  wages, a terrible summer 2007 transfer window that laid the foundations for relegation the following season – inherited a squad as well that had some decent players. Terrible football to watch.

Joe Kinnear – Clueless as a manager and as for off the pitch…what an embarrassment. The first time we had seen Mike Ashley bring in one of his own people and set the trend for years to come. Newcastle were relegated at the end of that season, whilst even club legend Shay Given had seen enough, not able to stand any more of this Ashley/JFK circus.

Alan Pardew – The ultimate yes man. Having been sacked by then third tier Southampton, only Ashley would have the nerve to claim it was a forward step to replace Chris Hughton with Pardew. We quickly learnt that he would say and do anything to cover the back of his boss, whilst his tactical nous was almost non-existent. So desperate was he to take the job, he was prepared to do it with no say on transfers, probably just as well really.

John Carver – The man who almost succeeded in completing Mission Impossible. Another one who embarrassed the club off the pitch and who almost got the club relegated from a seemingly impregnable position when he took over halfway through.

Steve McClaren – Another who was so desperate that he agreed to any terms after being sacked by Championship side Derby, no say on transfers and like Pardew & Carver, was happy to say and do anything on behalf of Mike Ashley. This era was the one where we regularly had PR emails sent to fans with names such as McClaren’s attached. Whilst he had no say on transfers, around £80m was spent on players and he was absolutely clueless in using/organising them.

What a strong line-up but there can be only one winner.

40% Joe Kinnear (2008-2009)

33% Steve McClaren (2015-2016)

16% John Carver (2015)

7% Alan Pardew (2010-2014)

4% Sam Allardyce (2007-2008)

Yes, good old JFK takes the title, despite close competition from Steve McClaren, whilst an honourable third for John Carver.

It shows how bad these past 11 years have been when Pardew and Allardyce get only 11% of the vote between them.

Joe Kinnear and Steve McClaren were the yes men who oversaw the majority of the two chaotic Mike Ashley relegation seasons, which no doubt helped tip the votes towards them.



  • Scottie Chugger Dearden

    Ashley said with the ‘benefit of hindsight’ looking at these clowns he clearly hasn’t learnt. It amazes me Sports Direct are still in business.

  • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

    no Shearer? Rigged poll

    • Billmag

      8 games + NUFC legend.

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Took us down, oversaw three of the worst performances in my memory. Split the dressing room in 8 games.

        Great striker, terrible manager

        • Billmag

          You have a short memory I’m afraid.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Liverpool away, Villa away and Fulham at home. The new manager bounce had gone and chaotic set up and half hearted players. The only one who showed some guys was Joey B who hit sent off!

          • Paul Patterson

            Joey Barton was stupid. The dressing room was ridiculous and the club was in freefall. You can’t blame Shearer for that relegation anymore than you can blame Rafa for the last one. Shearer did ‘take us down’ as did Rafa.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Rafa organised us which was a positive, I would say Rafa rather stifled us. There were games away from home, notably Liverpool where we could have pressed on to win.

          • Paul Patterson

            Reckless and deprived us of a big player for three games during the run in. Lack of discipline.
            Shearer was a rookie manager who shouldn’t have been appointed and I’m his biggest fan.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            He wasn’t the man for that job at the time.

            I’m a bit anti-Shearer because I know a few stories where he’s not come over as the nicest guy but I try to he subjective.

            Shearer could have joined up with KK and learnt the ropes but it seems he wanted to be the main man. He could have taken over in a timely fashion had he been prepared to learn and the whole debacle of 2009 could have been different.

            He still could make a decent manager but he was not ready at the time. He’s only just getting the hang of being a pundit, he was rubbish for years.

          • 1957

            Shearer was out of his depth from what I was told by someone who worked there at the time and he just left everything to Dowie on the training ground who quickly split the dressing room. The players who left that summer were in the Shearer/Dowie camp, Nolan and Barton had apparently been told they would be moved on in the summer before the season ended

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Not far from what I’ve heard. I don’t like heresay but it seems to fit.

            Did the someone who worked there happen to have played a few games for the club in the past?

          • 1957

            He played some games and has the distinction, if you can call it that, of the side never winning when he was in it that season

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            You mean PF? I thought he was shearer’s mate?

          • 1957

            No it was a young player who played that season I probably shouldn’t have used the term worked

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Ah right. It certainly fits with what I’ve hears elsewhere.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            In fairness, Wimbledon away in 1989 was worse but we were relegated by then.

          • Billmag

            In fairness Pardew’s jaunt in the FA Cup on terrestrial TV was pretty much x-rated.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Or Rafa’s at Oxford? The Fa cup was played out by reserves, they tried and had a plan

        • SuperDesHamilton

          Look at me everyone I’m controversial!

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Look at me, I’m objective.

          • SuperDesHamilton

            Still in the spare room I see…sad

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Very good. See my responses to Paul. I’m trying to be objective and Shearer was not a good appointment for that time. A fan appeasement excercise when having seen Hughton sinking, it should have been someone with nous to get us safe.

            That said, relegation that year was not the disaster it appeared at the time.

        • panther

          like rafa?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            No, Rafa hasme us organised and improved us.

            I think Rafa was unadveturous which left us short but Shearer had us chaotic.

    • Ram Kishore

      U r wrong.. just like Rafa shearer couldn’t stop the ship from sinking.. damage was too much already

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        Ram, much as Shearer was a great striker, it was not time for him to take the role, perhaps had he taken over after relegation he may have had more of a chance to take control but he split dressing rooms as a player, I know more of him as a player at Southampton but he split the dressing room there, set his manager against apart of the group and orchestrating his move away that even included Blackburn forcing David Speedie on Saints instead of money in the transfer fee. At Blackburn he also create d a clique and at Newcastle he did the same. Bobby was sacked because Shearer created a senior group of players that convinced Shepherd to get rid of Bobby

  • Billmag

    When you look at that illustrious list you just have to wonder who on earth has suggested these people, it couldn’t have been Penfold because he knows FA about football, was it Carr(had too much say), how on earth the fat lad has been successful in business is anyone’s guess.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    Interesting to see Keven Keegan was not on the list when Pardew had a far higher win %. For the record he was also well a head of Rudd Guilt and equal to Kenny Dalglish (under Hall). Strange that he was hated so much when MaClarens win % was 22% and his 38%. Thanks Alan for those European trips and the meals at Metalist Kharkiv. A disgrace how certain fans treat you, they are not supporters. that is for sure.

    • Billmag

      Yes cheers Alan for all the lies you told, the hammering off the bin dippers, the six in a row off our hated neighbors, the sickly this victory is for you Mike, where is he now.

      • Paul Patterson

        He’s a deluded idiot who says things for effect.

        • Monkseaton Magpies

          I say what I mean and if you do not agree that’s fine. Why was Keegan not on the list when his win ratio was far worse than Pardew’s.

          • Paul Patterson

            I was talking about Pardew, but well done.

          • Billmag

            Any Numpty can say I have been to more game’s than you, what’s that prove, because in his case not very much.

          • Geordieguy

            Keegan wasn’t allowed to manage . He had his hands tied by Mr creosote and Dennis unwise

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        You from Billingham or just Bill thanks. The Peterlee branch are among our top supporters.

        • Billmag

          First name’s Bill monk.

    • Big Hairy Man

      Have you ever been to Monkseaton? It’s quite a nice little place next to Whitley Bay.

      • Leazes.

        Full of charvers

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Yes live here will be going to the Monkseaton Arms shortly.

    • Peter C

      A few weeks ago you stated, Mike Ashley, quote.

      “To be fair to him his record of appointing managers has been excellent but a lot of that is down to Charnley”

      Are you now prepared to retract this statement.

      Ashley’s record of appointing managers is appalling. And now or in a years time, we are in danger of losing one of the most capable and internationally recognised managers we’ve had in our history.

      Yes, Benitez has made some mistakes in his time here, we are all only human. On the whole, I believe if you were to ask most fans, they would want him to remain at Newcastle.

      He has done a reasonable job with resources at his disposal, the phrase, “You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear” comes to mind.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        To be fair not one person on here has given Ashley or Charnley credit for appointing Rafa yet you are quick to slag off other appointments.

        • Peter C

          I’ll use an old chestnut here, so to speak, a broken watch / clock, tells the right time twice a day,

          Law of averages suggests, they had to get it right and make a good decision sometime.

          Do you still stand by your original assertion, he / they have a good record of appointing managers, or will you retract it.

          Because on the balance of opinion, I believe many more people would totally disagree with your statement, of several weeks ago. In fact, nearly all of your opinions on everything, not just this subject.

          By the way, I haven’t slagged off anyone, and that includes you, although I disagree with almost 99.9 % of what you say.

          As Voltaire said “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it”

          I think, that’s what is called in a democracy, the right of free speech, even if that speech, is TOTAL BOLLOCKS!

        • porciestreet

          Rafa was only appointed in sheer and utter desperation, knowing he had f****d up another season.

        • Paul Patterson

          Rafa approached Newcastle you nit wit . .

    • East Durham Mag

      Buffoon.

    • SuperDesHamilton

      Give him the England job because he got you some scran in Ukraine! Monkseaton 😂😂 not even from Newcastle you meff

    • Tino11

      Hahaha this just proves you are a WUM. Pardew wasn’t just hated by SOME fans, he was hated by 90% of the fans, I suppose you know better than those 90% do you? A man that was a pathological liar, there is a website which lists all of them if your interested. He headbutted a player, swore at an older and more respected manager and had an affair with a players wife whilst at Southampton, he then got a super injunction claiming his wife would commit suicide if the story came out, such a classy man! What was his win % at Palace and WBA by the way?

    • panther

      we just know a sycophantic clown when we see one

  • Paul Patterson

    Funny how a drunk conversation around a pub table down south can get some people managers jobs at Noocarsel.

  • Leazes.

    I logged out and just caught what Monkseaton/fleckman had written about Shearer and Keegan…. It is the same person as I thought I can assure anyone who may be confused by it (both blocked), he’s covered that unpopular argument many time before (I agree with it but for totally different reasons)

    ….and as far as I know he a Man United fan who was cheesed off with Shearer when he chose us, I know because he used to post at the Chronicle Readers pages under the pen name of Zenobia…. another male/female conundrum.

    Rather nasty right wing politician from the coast who harrangs politicos all over the place under loads of names.

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      Think you should join Jezza in the funny farm. Just hope you have a family who are capable of looking after you.

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    Joe Kinnear might be many things but saying he was the worst manager of The Ashley Era is coming from a place of extreme prejudice and laziness !
    He came into the club in a time of upheaval and was under pressure from the start with local journalists taking the mick out of him etc
    He was only there for a few short months until ill health forced him to step down and his son passed away through illness not long after, So I am going to give him a pass.

    In his defence you could say that he did work on the back four a bit and stopped us shipping as many goals with a credible draw at Chelsea.
    The fact was no one was going to get a tune out of that squad and they took the water in long before Joe turned up.

    There are far worse candidates you could look at during Ashley’s time but Kinnear is an easy scapegoat imo.
    That season you could look at Keegan walking out being the biggest disaster to happen and Shearer being unable to keep them up.

    My vote goes to everyone’s favourite Dutchman Schteeve “Tufty” McClaren who was an unmitigated disaster despite being backed by Ashley more than most managers.

    Close second goes to the worlds best manager in “Geordie John Charver” who was an absolute joke !
    You could even argue him for the title but “Tufty” pips him to it for the most ineffectual reign as Newcastle manager during FAT BOY’S time.

    • Leazes.

      That was an appointment purely to aggravate United fans….

      I know Kinnear’s Irish but he’s totally synonymous with London’s Wimbledon who were a club run totally on a shoestring and stayed around the top league like a bad smell for a few years, Probably a Denis Wise recommendation to ‘stick it up the Geordies’ and totally in keeping with the way he wanted to run United, Turn United into Wimbledon a club punching(sic) above its weight!

    • Paul Patterson

      Any half decent chairman/owner would have terminated his six week contract the second the transcript of his first interview came out.

      • 1957

        A half decent owner would have terminated Pardew’s contract after pushing an opposition player away with his head…

        • Monkseaton Magpies

          You watch rugby where yesterday half of the players should have been sent off and had there contracts terminated . Talk about double standards as that brawl was shameful for what is supposed to be a family sport. It’s ok to fight in Rugby but not in football one England player had that blonde South African by his neck off the floor and it all kicks off.

          • 1957

            There’s no excuse for what goes on on a rugby field at times although I’m sure if you talked to so one who plays for Rockcliff they will be able to.

            The difference with the Pardew incident was yesterday it player on player, not Eddie Jones attacking a South African

      • X,WHY,Y MAN.

        I am not defending Joe Kinnear but to say he was the worst manager is complete rubbish and coming from a place of prejudice.

    • SuperDesHamilton

      This is what happens when the wife leaves & you’re ignored so you go online & say stupid things to get attention

      • X,WHY,Y MAN.

        What an idiot !

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      I don’t think that squad was terrible but I agree, JFK was a scapegoat. We had decent performances and he bought Nolan in.

      The players liked him, Barton has been positive about him, even Owen liked him as manager.

      That season was cursed, yes it could have been managed better but 4 managers is never going to be plain sailing.

      • X,WHY,Y MAN.

        I am not saying the squad was terrible on paper but in their minds they had long given up the ghost.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          Are we talking JFK or Shearer? JFK was bought in around October IIRC but it was only ill health that meant he had to leave. He’d have kept us up.

          It’s fair to say that Shearer came in late when heads had gone but a new manager usually gets a bit of a bounce and the only evidence of that was against ‘Boro. I didn’t think he was the right guy, yes, it gave Ashely a reprieve but it didn’t keep us up. If he wanted Shearer, he should have got someone like Terry Venables in to help for that season at least so Shearer could have learnt a bit without feeling threatened.

  • Darren Moat

    When you look at Ashley, then look at lambious and now penfold, then look at the quality of managers that have arrived it’s amazing we’ve only been relegated twice

    • panther

      weve tried bloody hard to make it more

  • 1957

    My vote went with Geordie John, he lost two thirds of his games in charge, Joe only lost a third. Joe’s press conferences were embarrassing at times granted but John’s were simply delusional… in a choice between a hot head and the village idiot I’d take the former

  • Desree

    This article lays to rest any argument that Newcastle is a big club!!!!