Sunderland fans have just watched their team crash through two divisions.

Even better, the Mackems have finished up rock bottom both times.

At the same time their local rivals have won the second tier title and are back establishing themselves in the top half of the Premier League.

Not much mileage for Sunderland fans trying to have a laugh at the expense of Newcastle supporters then…

However, they have still tried, normally some feeble reference to do with winning six derby matches in a row.

This conveniently ignores the fact that the previous decade, Newcastle won five derbies in a row (six out of seven – the other a draw) and yet I can’t remember a single NUFC fan making ‘five in a row’ into some endless taunt.

For most fans, derby matches are just one-off games, with it obviously being great when you win one, very rubbish when you lose – but not any ongoing thing over a matter of years.

Anyway, some genius amongst the Sunderland fans, has come up with a new taunt aimed at Newcastle fans.

Sunderland born Jordan Henderson played his last game for Sunderland aged 20, before walking out on them to play for Liverpool.

This week he helped Liverpool reach the Champions League final, which will be played in Kiev.

This is what the Mackem genius put up on social media…

sunderland fans

Only one problem, or rather, two.

Hundreds of Newcastle fans were actually in Kiev on 1 October 1997.

They were amongst a crowd of 100,000 that saw a brilliant Champions League fightback against a star studded Dynamo Kiev side, John Beresford scoring twice after Newcastle went two down, final score 2-2. This was the Champions League campaign when Newcastle beat Barcelona 3-2, just in case any Mackems had forgotten.

Then five years later, Sir Bobby Robson led Newcastle back to Kiev, this time losing 2-0 to Dynamo Kiev on 18 September 2002, once again hundreds of Geordies travelling to the Ukraine.

That was the season Newcastle made history, the first team to lose their first three Champions League group matches and then still qualify by winning the last three.

Newcastle playing 14 Champions League matches that season, including beating Juventus, Dynamo Kiev, Feyenoord away, Bayer Leverkusen home and away, plus drawing at Inter Milan.



  • Paul Patterson

    Aw bless ’em. Mackems trying to be funny.
    #gettingoutofthechampionshipatthefirstattempt
    #mackemsneedsnookers

  • Alreet

    I do recall them european nights against the likes of a very young (wonder where they ended up) duo of shevchenko and rebrov. Or harping back even further to the away days in monaco who again had the future world cup winning squad in their team from Manu Petit. Barthez and an as yet unknown theirry henry.

    Yea weve not been to kiev……ahem but we have and you boys will never. Unless someone has a stag party that isnt in the rubble of the new monkey then ur screwed.

    Keep falling scummers. Its like pan pipes on a rainy day.

    • Pablo

      SMB

    • Jezza

      Are those the same “scummers” who organised an appeal fund when two of our lads lost their lives in the plane crash?

      • porsiestreet

        I understand yr sentiment Jezz but you have a very unhealthy lean towards that place over the river..!

        • gallowgate26

          Please NEVER say ‘over the river’ again… 1) There is two rivers between SJP and S** 2) Hence you’re showing complete ignorance / bordering on stupidity. 3) Take away Gateshead/Tyneside fans and kiss goodbye to 15k at SJP (conservative estimate). 4) Half of South Shields and some in Durham support toon and attend home games 5) North Tyneside also supply a lot of fans, very few indeed from City of Newcastle inside the China town walls!

          • porciestreet

            Well pardon my ignorance but you should Polish up on yr grammar by calling someone ignorant.
            Firstly, there “are” two rivers and secondly, my two degrees are hardly ..bordering on the stupidity you refer to.
            I also have an IQ of 124 which in all , makes you sound rather silly my friend.

          • gallowgate26

            If we’re nitpicking, I don’t need to “polish” (Poland is a country in eastern Europe) up on my spelling and grammar whatsoever, both are fantastic. Yes, you are correct r.e “are”, apologies, an oversight/typo on my part. You don’t need to take offence, just because I’ve educated you about the use of ‘over the water’.

          • Mark Potter

            You shouldn’t boast about 124, it’s hardly Hawking-like. And there are not two rivers between SJP and SoL.

          • Albert Stubbins

            Good point well made.

          • porciestreet

            What good point well made….?
            Most of it is complete drivvel.

          • porciestreet

            Is everyone on herequest tonight suffering from alcohol abuse…?

          • Albert Stubbins

            I’m recovering from a week on the p#@@ in Poland so yes probably.

          • porciestreet

            Dobre ….!

          • Albert Stubbins

            Dziekuje!!

          • Albert Stubbins

            Dziekuje!!

          • Albert Stubbins

            I understood it to mean that we shouldn’t infer that people over the south side of the river Tyne are any less worth of being Newcastle fans and historically account for a good percentage of the attendance at Newcastle games? Over the water meaning river Tyne and not the wear which of course isn’t the same as it’s a different river entirely. Or maybe I’m just stupid.

          • porciestreet

            Not stupid, just missed my point completely. I just meant litterally….over the river. If I had been referring to Hull or Norwich, I would have said the same thing.
            Perhaps my grammar is at fault. No offence.meant or taken.

          • Albert Stubbins

            Oh I see.I think it’s because in Newcastle you hear a lot of people saying ower the watta when referring to our friends in Gateshead. I got confused with your analogy because of that. No harm done. Can we all be friends again?

          • Mark Potter

            Which two rivers? The Tyne and the Don at Jarrow? Not the Tyne and the Wear. SoL is on the north side of the Wear.

            St James’, south over Tyne via Redheugh Bridge, turn left towards centre of Gateshead, then take Felling Bypass, through Heworth, White Mare Pool to Testo’s roundabout. Turn right on to A19. Pass Nissan, then turn off into Sunderland at South Hylton. Pass Queen Alexandra Bridge and SoL is in front of you. You crossed one river only (the Tyne). You drive alongside the Wear, you don’t cross over it.

          • gallowgate26

            I didn’t say you had to cross it. The two rivers are between the two stadiums though, open Google maps and look at it…

          • Mark Potter

            I know you didn’t say “cross”, you said “over”. You don’t go over the Wear to reach the SoL. It’s on the same side of the Wear as Gateshead and South Shields. Open Google Maps? I’ve driven the roads in the South Tyne area 1000s of times. No-one would go over the Wear to get from Newcastle to the SoL.

          • Leazes.

            Three if you count the River of Sh*te which comes from Lee Ryder at Thomson House.

        • Guest 2

          Aye. It’s starting to read like he’s another ‘plant’ – a fake poster.

          • Jezza

            Ni I’m not a fake. Where were you when I was spending the night on a wooden bemch in Swansea railway station, taking a rowing boat to Peel Castle or walking up a country lane to the Oadby Town ground?

          • Wor Lass

            You`re feeding the troll, Jezza. Guest 2 is yet another personification.

          • Jezza

            Thanks for letting me know, marra. I’ve blocked him now anyway.

          • Leazes.

            Yes he is

        • Jezza

          I don’t lean towards Sunderland, I just don’t see the point in hating people and calling them scum or inbreds or unwashed just because they come from another city and support another team. All this nonsense just makes us Newcasttle fans look bad.

      • Guest 2

        A drunken post too far, methinks. Is Jezza really just another alter ego of the Monkseaton Mong, etc?

        • Jezza

          Hardly a drunken post considering I’ve been tee total since 1986. If you think I’m Monkseaton you are the one who is drunk. Let me tell you the one crucial difference between me and the troll who posts as Monkseaton among various other IDs: I am a Newcastle supporter.

  • Rich Lawson

    There gone,I’m not interested in the ramblings of a 3rd division supporter. Ok they get sold .sack a former national manager who had committed to stay with them, and relegated twice in a row,but that wont happen again for a long time.We can all see (revel) in their results without any further mention of them here, Are you reading this Graham ?

    • porsiestreet

      Never more to be seen…..!

  • FatParosite

    They got rid of their villainous owner.

  • TheNutJob

    microcondial dna proves that man & chimps have a common ancestor,
    the Mackems prove without doubt that it`s true, they have an unheathy amount of it from the chimp.
    🙈

    • Guest 2

      Man and chips would be a closer match to the SMB’s.

      • Leazes.

        Now thats funny…. the article is childish though,

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    Irrelevance personified !

  • Albert Stubbins

    I’m surprised they even know where Kiev is to be fair. It’s something they have with their cheesy chips isn’t it?

  • paul mclaughlan

    It’s “Ukraine” mate. No “the” required.

    • Albert Stubbins

      Is that the same with Arsenal?

  • Jezza

    Sunderland fans are laughing and they’ve got every right to laugh at certain Newcastle fans like Sam Hepworth and Graham Porter just now. Those Sunderland fans are quite rightly having the last laugh because they know that no matter how low their team sinks, some Newcastle fans like Hepworth and Porter will remain utterly obsessed with them. The laugh is very much on you Mr Hepworth,

    • Ba ba.

      Don’t agree on this one jezza i think there just giving back what’s been given to us… 👍

      • Guest 2

        I think Jezza has been rumbled.

        • Jezza

          Rumbled as what? You think I’m a Sunderland supporter trolling this site do you? You obviously haven’t been using this forum very long. I have been a regular contributor here for years and was heavily involved with the original paper version of The Mag right back at the beginning but don’t take my word for it. Why don’t you get in touch of the owner of The Mag, Mark Jensen. As well as working on The Mag, I used to go to the matches with Mark in back in the late 80’s. He’ll vouch for me.

          • Mark Potter

            Who will vouch for him? The facts are:
            – You live in walking distance of Roker Park
            – You have been to Sunderland games when they weren’t playing Newcastle
            – You defend Sunderland at every opportunity. Many articles you posted more than a dozen times defending Sunderland and it’s moronic fans. So hundreds of pro-SAFC posts just in the last few weeks since their relegation seemed likely. Then have the gall to criticise others as obsessive.
            – You want to see Sunderland back in the Premiership and doing well
            – You hate Newcastle, you have nothing good to say about the club
            So, we assess the evidence, and decide SMB.

          • Albert Stubbins

            No way he’s SMB. Impossible. He’s just not hostile towards them the way many including myself am. That doesn’t make you SMB. Some fans think by ignoring them it annoys them more and who can argue with this stance, it probably does in all fairness as then they feel insignificant. It’s not a strategy I adhere to but everyone to their own. It’s out of order Calli g him SMB though as anyone with even a grain of nous would recognize this isn’t the case. NUFC.!!

          • Mark Potter

            I can call him what I want. If it smells like a Mackem, squawks like a Mackem and is as dumb as a Mackem, it’s usually a Mackem.

          • Albert Stubbins

            Yes you can. You sound like a real tough guy calling people what you want behind the safety of your computer mind. Grow up!!

          • Mark Potter

            Lol, and Jezza doesn’t sit behind the safety of his computer calling people, and getting his fanboys (or his alt-accounts, cough cough Albert?) to defend him.

            So does he not post 100s of times pro-Sunderland? Did he not admit to going to Sunderland games? Does he not want Sunderland to be successful?

            I bet he cried like a baby when they were relegated again.

          • Albert Stubbins

            So now I’m jezza? Howay man you don’t even believe that tripe yourself. The only pro makem posts I’ve ever read are supporting the lads that backed the campaign for our two lads and the fact that we could be in their position if it weren’t for Rafa. You can’t base your theory on that? He promotes the theory of ignoring them as the best way to get under their skin. How does that make someone a makem? I go on the rtg website all the time. I glory in their demise. On that website anyone who disagrees with the author of any particular thread gets called a mag. They really are that insecure. Are you that insecure that someone has to be a makem because they don’t share your views precisely?

          • Jezza

            Don’t feed the troll, marra. Mark Potter is yet another of Clarko/ghostbuster/Monkseaton’s many ID’s. He and his brother who posts as Fleckman/mentalman/nut/ComeAndTakeIt1836/Ben Jones/Martin Rooney etc etc are trying to discredit me after I exposed them as the Manchester supporting, S****s D****t employee, Tory boy trolls that they are. Just block them.

          • Mark Potter

            Lol. Yet again he appears to encourage his sheep/fanboys to block people. He claims everyone who disagrees with his pro-Sunderland/anti-Newcastle stance are all one account. His answer is not to engage with them but to block them. You see, Albert, my tongue in cheek suggestion that you were Jezza was just because this is his sole answer to any criticism. He comes on a Newcastle supporters website, posts literally 100s of pro-Sunderland messages, then cries when people call him on it. “Block the troll. How dare they criticise me. I used to be involved with producing the Mag. Block the troll. I don’t love Sunderland, I just cry when I think of them in League 1. Block the troll.” He really is funny. Tory boys. Golden!

          • Ba ba.

            Jesus 😆 😆

      • Jezza

        Why descend to the level of the plane fliers and banner hangers? We should be better than that. Show a bit of class and just ignore them. Show them that they don’t matter to them.

        • Ba ba.

          Not into the banners and all that but I I’m enjoying there demise.

    • GC

      Completely agree. That’s why I keep saying “ignore them”, that’s the best way to annoy them

    • Guest 2

      Nowt wrong at all with laughing back at the SMB

      • Leazes.

        It a bit embarrassing to react to these dafties and make something of nothing and an issue out of it…. people get things wrong all of the time, look at the Chronicle ….. now that is dangerous stuff they peddle and very harmful to United or should I say harmful to the truth about United…..

        ….Mark Douglas wrote a book entitle ‘Inside the Rafalution’….. there still hasn’t been a change in policy by the club and Rafa certainly hasn’t got overall control of transfers. The club doesn’t have a Director of football it has an accountant multitasking badly.

        • Mark Potter

          According to Rafa, he does.

    • Paul Patterson

      Hey, if they have a go then they are entitled to have muck slung back, especially if it’s staggeringly inaccurate.
      However, they are best ignored. It annoys them further.

      • Leazes.

        Yup… this article stoops to their level and Sam is as bad.

  • Ba ba.

    BTW Henderson dad has a season ticket at St James. … 👍.. Smb

  • Toon

    Sam, untwine your tangled knickers and grow up, you give Porter a run for money for crappest write ups

  • gallowgate26

    OMG, OMG, he’s like the worst Liverpool player on the pitch and in the same mould as wearside Jack. Actually think this season he’s been found out, just like Mignolet before him. Pass sideways, pass backwards and repeat haha. He’s rubbish! Are they seriously gloating about him! Ahahaha my sides are splitting!!!

  • DC1964

    Sunderland AFC are sinking into oblivion!

    • Albert Stubbins

      Their debt free status is in some doubt now as well. Just checked the accounts debate on the RTG website ( sad and obsessive I know). The debt owed on previous transfers hasn’t been cleared and awld shorty is away with the next parachute payment. Seems it’s not as rosy in the financial garden as it first appeared. Pity eh?

    • Albert Stubbins

      Current tense. Have sank into. ;)

  • Dillon Tovak

    For once you’re right, that is embarrassing.

  • ghostrider

    Wasn’t thought out very well, was it.

  • Stephen

    Bet his Mam never entered him in a Bonny Baby Competition

  • shellington

    They are just sad cases to be pitied but best ignored. This is what happens when you spend your entire life living in an overgrown version of Blyth enviously gazing at the stunning city up the road, you become a bitter loser.

    • Oldgeordie

      That’s an insult to Blyth as TSMBs will find out when they play them in a couple of seasons.

  • Magpie Pete

    The very high standards of obsessive stalker like qualities Sunderland fans set themselves have been completely missed here. The total failure to do his homework on all things Newcastle United means this tosser will probably be hated by his own people too. #resitthemagtest F- Shocker. Total fail.

  • TheFatController

    Did they relent their paranoia and let wolves have more tickets, or are they still as hysterical about any of us attending as Trump is about london’s Knife crime ?

    • CaptainCaveman

      At least someone’s bothered. The mayor of London doesn’t seem to be.

  • Billmag

    They will never ever ever see the likes of what I witnessed that night against Barcelona the 3-2 win and the atmosphere is what memories are made of.

    • Albert Stubbins

      Yes but apparently we’re just making the numbers up in the premiership. Whilst their ten seasons finishing seventeenth were Barcelonaesque!!

    • Neil

      Would love it if SAFC got anywhere near to NUFC’s CL achievements. But we cannot get into CL if we’re not even in the Prem and even then it’ll be wishful thinking. NUFC fans get to put their fingers to their lips to us for a number of seasons to come.

  • gallowgate26

    Anyway, it was Wijnaldum (our former player) who scored the goal that took them to the final, if they want to brag about FORMER players now (which is totally pathetic) Ahhh!!!

  • Sean Pattinson

    I just got back from kiev

  • George

    They are irrelevant, you don’t have a go at Hartlepool or Darlington. Forget the League 1 also rans.