Arsenal fans are surely the embodiment of the very worst perception of what the modern football fan is these days.

They totally believe in money justifying everything and having an entitlement to success.

Arsenal fans have seen their team win three of the last four FA Cup finals.

They are in the last eight of the Europa League and along with Atletico Madrid are favourites to win it.

This season is the first since the late 90s when Arsenal fans aren’t watching Champions League football.

Not one single living Arsenal fan has seen anything other than top flight English football, it being pre-First World War when they were last in the second tier.

Yet still they go on like they are the most unlucky/unfortunate football fans (Newcastle and Arsenal fans pictured above on Wembley Way at 1998 FA Cup Final) in the universe.

Their move to The Emirates created one of the most shameful scenarios, as apart from the most desirable matches, some five or six thousand Arsenal fans choose to not even bother to turn up, despite having paid for their tickets.

Today, Arsenal played Stoke, the stadium was an embarrassment with many more empty seats than normal.

They won 3-0 and made it four wins in a row, with 11 goals scored and only one conceded, yet just look at the plight of some of these comments below…

The Daily Mirror Chief Football Writer John Cross put this up on Twitter:

“Sad indictment of the modern fan that people think it’s OK to stay away.

“I grew up thinking you stick with your team and support them through thick and thin.

“You need proof – look at Newcastle United.”

Just look at the reaction from Arsenal fans (and others)…:

‘It is absolutely depressing at the Emirates at the moment as well …. it is no fun at all.

Even if you want to be there that day out isn’t much to be excited about right now.’

‘It’s an excruciating experience some days. I find it appalling we as fans aren’t listened to. We certainly are not appreciated any more.’

‘That’s a very poor tweet John. Criticising the modern fan of a club that charges more for a ticket than any other. If they choose to protest that way then that is their choice. Really bad choice of words on that tweet.’

‘What are they protesting against? They are the FA Cup holders, are 6th in the league and are in the Quarter Finals of the Europa League have just dumped Milan out of the competition.’

‘It’s all relative though. That’d be fantastic for a club like Newcastle (not having a dig).

Arsenal have been used to winning/competing for the league and playing in champions league every season.’

‘No club has a divine right to win trophies though. Arsenal are the current FA Cup holders and look likely to win another trophy this season in the Europa League. Not sure if that’s worthy of mass fan protests tbh.’

‘33points behind the league leaders, lost more games than Burnley and won 3 away games all season.

The least we expect is to compete for the price we’re charged and this hasn’t happened for over a decade.

Not sure what it is with Newcastle fans that attracts you to Arsenal.’

‘Whilst u won’t listen anyway , once again You don’t take into accountThe SHEER LENGTH OF TIME this has been going on for, it’s gone way beyond the rules of normal fandom, you may still want to play the Wenger respect card , for many the club is dead till he goes.’

‘Comparing us to Newcastle who have had several managerial changes in the past few years is short sighted at best. Football is nothing without hope.’

‘I think like many he doesnt  get the seriousness of the situation , the club as a unifying force know longer matters to fans , and if it destroys it so be it !!’

‘Ask Pardew and Allardyce about their loyal support, or even research football before 1992. This Newcastle thing is the biggest myth in the game.’

‘You don’t get it! People have to make a statement the clueless board will clearly get. Your reporting for personal gain the Arsenal situation has been beyond laughable on many occasions!’

‘We’re sitting adrift in 6th place after being told time & time again last year to be careful what we wish for. The fans want change & are beyond bored of this same old sh.., so fair enough if they choose to stay away.’

‘Sad indictment is a manager who clings on to power with every fiber in his body due to a selfish sense of entitlement, fans have a right to protest against this. I hate how fans are being put under the microscope when the real important questions are being ignored.’

‘Yea John …especially in the 80s when Newcastle had 13 thousand.’

‘They were getting around 9,000 when Ossie Ardiles was manager.’

‘We averaged 21,500 that season narrowly escaping relegation to the old 3rd division  at the time. Attendances all round were low compared to today.’

‘Those were different times, Arsenal have treated fans with contempt for many years and have actively cultivated a new fanbase. Loyalty is a two way street and we aren’t mugs.’

‘Difference is you can feel that Newcastle players fight, while Arsenal players “walk”. They just don’t care. Most of them at least. Ozil’s been walking since he joined.’

‘NUFC have won nothing for decades, yet still sell out Arsenal won the FA cup last season along with Europe every season and they still moan on.’

‘The rubbish Arsenal fans have put up with for years, he needs to announce he’s leaving at the end of season, so he can have a proper send off, we all know he either leaves or will be removed.’

‘Arsenal fans as flaky as their team.’

‘Yeh Arsenal fans should be rounded up by armed stewards & forced into the stadium regardless of how shit the team are playing & that there’s nothing to play for. How dare they choose to spend a holiday weekend with family.’

‘Arsenal, like others have sold out, No longer a fan base as such, the stadium is filled each week with tourists. Stoke City isn’t much of a draw, hence 1000’s of empty seats. This is the tv company’s  future for football, No longer are the fans in the stadium respected.’

‘Staying away is the protest that Arsenal fans have against the Manager & currently the only way we can be heard.’

‘I think you are forgetting them loyal fans of Newcastle where getting gates as low as 9k under Smith and Ardiles ?’

‘By comparing rich Arsenal to Newcastle, Mr Cross yet again demonstrates world class cluelessness and ignorance. If fans paid but still won’t go, it’s an indictment of that manager you adore, Wenger. Simple as. A mediocre hack doesn’t get to have a pop at them.’

‘It’s been ten years of the same errors. We have never ever addressed them year in year out issues. It’s boring, frustrating and irritating. After ten years it’s only by not going change may happen.’

‘Have to laugh at the people dredging up the attendances for nufc back in the 80’s early 90’s. Yawn.

Sh.. grounds, violence etc, footie wasn’t a “product”. We averaged 16k in 81, and all other teams had much lower figures than now. Check out CFC stats thru the 80’s.’

‘Need to start punishing ST holders who miss a lot of games waste of tickets plenty of fans would’ve taken up their seats.’

‘I’m a season ticket holder but due to work commitments can’t always go.. Today was my first game since Liverpool 3-3 before Xmas due to work and when I’ve had chance to go its been sh.. and on TV so didn’t bother.’

‘I’ve just got back from Arsenal. 1st half was poor, 2 shots. Last 20mins when he made subs we came to life. Empty seats, it’s Easter, on sky and the team are playing poorly.. Yeh support the team thro thick & thin but If they dnt care why should we.’

‘You are giving Newcastle as an example? A team where there has been v little progress since Ashley took charge, their an example of what happens if fans don’t make a stand!’



  • Ogban

    They are spoiled brats goaded on by idle ‘legends’ and jaundiced jornos.

  • Paul Patterson

    My comment from earlier in the day..

    I’ve never understood the bad rap we get from sections of the media/rival fans.
    Is it a crime to protest against a regime that actively refuses to do the best it possibly can? That admits (in public) that cup competitions are to be discarded as soon as possible? That treading on club legends is acceptable just because they want what we do? That renaming the ground and chucking a century of history to the four winds is perfectly normal? The list is endless.
    To counter the quote from Derek Llambias from a few years ago (‘You don’t realise how horrible we can be’) I’d state, ‘You don’t realise how nasty the atmosphere at St James’ could have been’. I think we’ve been remarkably tolerant after all that’s gone on.

    Comment still stands..

  • Paul Cannell

    I wonder what crowds Arsenal would get if they had not won anything for 40 years ?

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      there wouldn`t be anybody there except the groundsman

      • Paul Cannell

        If they never won nowt for 40 years, Paul Merson would be the groundsman.

    • Georgia Peter

      Porciestreet .
      Or what kind of 5hyyte! They’d be in if they had Nikey Mikey as their chairman………!

    • Jezza

      I’ll tell you now they’d be lucky to be getting 15,000.

  • Wor Lass

    “You are giving Newcastle as an example? A team where there has been v little progress since Ashley took charge, their an example of what happens if fans don’t make a stand!”

    I`m not having a pot-shot at anybody but there`s a lot of truth in that statement.

    • TheFatController

      Well, given the owner doesn’t attend and wants to sell, just that being greedy he wants a huge profit, short of assasination what ‘stand’ is there left to make?

      We have succeeded in making him aware he’s not welcome. He’s taken the hint. Job done.

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        Job`s far from done, he continues to damage the club year on year.
        chances are he`ll still be here next season

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      I`m into my 4th year without a season ticket,
      i ain`t going back until the Pigs gone
      🐷

      • Albert Stubbins

        No offence mate but that doesn’t make you a martyr and the rest of us silly for going. I respect your decision but I go no matter what. Politics and football don’t mix. I support the lads on the pitch not the t*** in the boardroom.

        • MichaelMaximusMoose

          i don`t proclaim to be a martyr
          go if you want. i`m not feeding that Fat Pig

          • Albert Stubbins

            We’ve never had owners the fans like although this one is particularly loathsome.

      • Lhc

        You’re meant to stick by your club through thick and thin, season tkt whats 639 quid to him, nowt! All me away tkts money goes to the other club, i wouldn’t let Ashley or any owner or manager etc affect my way of life il always be there no matter what. I couldn’t stay away I’d feel like I’ve lost a limb.

        • Phil Yare

          whos the biggest supporter though… the person who is glued to a radio and cant afford to go or someone who can afford to go but only half arsed absorbs half of whats going on
          you might find some of the most passionate fans arent actually in the stadium

          • Phil Yare

            and what if someone else has been to 500 plus games but doesn’t go now (for whatever reason) compares to someone who currently goes but only has been for recent times?

          • ghostrider

            That’s not the issue.
            Anyone can be a supporter and fan by radio, TV, stadium or simply wearing the shirt.
            The issue arises when you get fans that tell all and sundry they are thick and thin supporters/fans and when you cut them they bleed black and white.
            Those fans who have season tickets or have funds to pay in and can get in, will do so whoever is wearing the shirt or whoever is sat in the boardroom, because they are Newcastle United supporters and fans in the whole sense.

            Anyone that used to buy a season ticket and then decides not to…or decides not to go to the stadium as a fan because they don’t like the owner, yet still watch the team on TV or listens on radio and also buys merchandise to do with the club, are total hypocrites but still nonetheless a fan and supporter.

            It all boils down to what people think morals are.
            Most pretend they have them until they realise they cherry pick them as and when.

            I wonder how many fans gave up their season tickets when the last owners slagged off the fans for being stupid and the women for being s***s.
            Contempt of the fans and yet all Ashley has done is try to ensure the club runs against the impossible disease the elite clubs have created for the rest to overcome.

            Aye, anyone feel free to pick and choose how you support or be a fan of the club but don’t try and stand yourself on a high moral pedestal if you’re contributing to the regime you apparently hate… because that makes you a supporter of that regime and also still a fan of the club and everything to do with the running of it, no matter who owns the deeds.

            If anyone wants to argue that they do not contribute anything now, then you are not a supporter and therefore not a fan of Newcastle United.
            Your status becomes down to the word “like” at best.

          • Phil Yare

            i don’t think its a case of people trying to be on a high moral pedestal, there’s obviously a whole range of issues besides money to take into account but we all ultimately dream of some sort of success. (i cant believe anyone would want us to lose a cup final just because the fatman is still the chairman)

            but a lot of people i know have become disillusioned with the game in general and not specifically the way mike ashley has ran newcastle the last 10 years but I’d still class them as newcastle supporters

          • ghostrider

            I’ve been a fan and supporter for as long as I can remember. Basically over 45 years of knowing football existed.
            Newcastle United became my club, my choice and solely without coaxing as nobody in my family were Newcastle fans.
            One Boro, two Hartlepool and the girls were into any team that had the best looking players.
            I’ve seen the absolute dire and I’ve seen the basic to above average to the sublime. Thick and thin of it all.
            I’ve had a gut wrenching week on many occasions. Yes….WEEK.
            Many can empathise with it, including yourself I bet.

            There’s been many a time where I’ve been at the door of despair where I’ve just thought of watching cricket or being a rugby fan, or wondering if losing my mind would take away the pain.
            That and a million other things went through my mind and still do today.
            But guess what?
            I can’t ever do without my Newcastle UNited, as many will not, even those that pretend they’ve given up going because of this and that.

            It’s mostly frustration with us all whenever we get to this stage.
            Any that do it (as I’ve said earlier) and make the excuse of Ashley is not a true fan.
            Anyone that wants to argue that only needs to look at those fans of teams that are in dire need of clean football socks, never mind X amount of money off their bad bad man of an owner that some fans would adhere to blaming, yet fans will still go because they go to watch their team at their club, owned and run by whoever is in charge at any time.

            .

          • Lhc

            The person in the stadiums the person who puts in the long hard miles to follow them here there n everywhere gets home at say 1/2 n has to be up for work at 5 say, just my opinion. Ppl who can’t go for financial or health reasons is a shame and not there fault tho. I wouldn’t assume tho mate that the person who can afford to go ‘ is only half arsed etc’ cause trust me that’s not the case, n affordability nufc season tkts aren’t the cheapest but definitley aren’t the dearest around the country aswell 639 quid mine for example I put 15 quid a week away not a lot on the scale of things n there’s it paid for come next renewal with spare change If someone says 639 pound it’s sounds a lot to give but 15 quid a week to go and watch nufc at home if you put it that way isn’t.

          • Phil Yare

            good for you mate, there is certainly no argument against that level of commitment

        • MichaelMaximusMoose

          if you go then don`t moan about the situation with Ashley because you & your ilk is why he`s still there
          there`s a thin line between loyalty & stupidity & i`m not stupid

          • Lhc

            That’s why I dont moan, never once commented on Ashley in any way, all you ever get of most on here regarding him is ‘fat this fat that’ etc etc Ashley is here nowt we can do about that if anyone thinks there is then they pretty deluded. In the meantime you can cut your own nose off to spite your own face thinking your making some sort of stand, enjoy.

          • Ram Kishore

            Whatever opinion u have is respected but u can’t imply others as stupid..

        • Wor Lass

          Fair enough, mate. The thing is, we might all have different views but we`re all fans at the end of the day

          • Lhc

            Wasn’t a pop just I don’t see why you/anyone would let Ashley etc spoil your way of life, but hey each to there own mate.

          • Phil Yare

            here here

        • kingfisher

          I used to feel like you Lhc, but as long as fans keep turning up then nothing will change.I’ve supported nufc for over 50 years through thin,thinner,very very thin etc,etc, and there comes a time when enough is enough.You can still support your club without buying tickets and contributing to Ashley’s bank balance.😁

      • kingfisher

        Well said Moose.If the other fans had the courage of their convictions like you, then the likelihood is that Ashley would be long gone by now.Well done 👍👍👍

        • Monkseaton Magpies

          Just like Eric Short is long gone at Sunderland and getting relegated for a second team. All staying away will do is put them in administration and not attract a buyer so backward thinking.

      • ghostrider

        You shouldn’t feel the need to go and stare at Ashley.
        Just go and watch the game because that’s the entire reason we are fans and supporters of whatever goes on on the pitch.

    • Cockneytrev

      Here here,,,

    • Albert Stubbins

      How have arsenal fans made a stand? They’ve done f all apart from whine on.

      • Wor Lass

        There are, reportedly, thousands of empty seats in the stadium so it seems that some are staying away. Whether it`s a boycott or just a bunch of pampered whingers who can only motivate themselves to go when their team`s top of the league, I don`t know. Remember that Arsenal fan on the Fast Show with his picnic hamper and fancy food who knew absolutely FA about football (“Bergkamp – no, he doesn`t play for Holland,he plays for Arsenal!”)

        • Albert Stubbins

          Tourists mate. Simple as. Staying away isn’t protesting when you’ve already bought your St. They’re basically behaving like spoiled kids.

    • Jezza

      Little progress since Ashley took charge? It’s far worse than that. There has been significant regression. Our transfer spending has plummeted to the lowest level in the club’s 126 year history since he took over.

      • kingfisher

        Again,spot on Jezz,and yet still some people see Ashley as some sort of saviour! How anyone can defend his record in over 10 years of ownership is quite frankly staggering !

      • Wor Lass

        I await Clarko`s rebuttal of that statement – or Clako`s, even!

    • kingfisher

      Well said Wor Lass.See my post above !

  • Ba ba.

    Funny when we make a stand we are deluded and demand success.

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    They are a complete bunch of t***ers and you only have to watch Arsenal T.V for evidence of this with people like Troopz, Claude, DT etc
    The only couple with sense are Robbie who runs the channel and the little bloke who looks like Spike Lee.

    • Phil Yare

      never heard of any of them but i know i cant stand them already

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    You only have to look at the Mag Website and it is full of like minded Arsenal fans Jezza and Leazes being the leaders of hundreds of anti Newcastle fans only Bobbi Clako Martin and one other who forgot the name supports the club

    • Albert Stubbins

      If you think that your completely wrong. You can crtiscise how the club is run on a football site and still support the lads on a matchday. The two are completely separate entities.

      • Jezza

        Don’t feed the troll, lads.

    • East Durham Mag

      Idiot

    • Albert Stubbins

      You forgot to mention the other 51,196?

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Not on about the fans who attend but the ones who protest on here and never go to games. However I will say the anti Pardew stuff at games made me and my family ashamed to be associated with the hatred shown to our own manager.

        • Albert Stubbins

          What about the anti Charlton,Macfaul,Smith,Suggett,Gullitt,Souness and Dalglish stuff. ? It’s always happened and will always happen. It happens everywhere.

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            When I started going it was Harvey out but the campaign against Pardew was sick with leaflets, vans with posters on.
            I went to Bar Loco and ripped them up these people are morons not supporters.

    • Danimal

      You’re a disgrace.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        There are many fans who go to all the games who would not agree with you. Will always have the honour of being one of the seventy two who made it to Moscow.

        • Albert Stubbins

          You got further than Hitler and napolean then so well done. Were you one of the three hundred and fifty that made it to Southend or the thousand or so at Oxford united in issues last game or the clincher at Leicester city? There’s plenty of loyal supporters mate. Some say we’re well known for it!!

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Yes was at the Southend game where we lost four nil on New Years day twelve O’clock kick off. Ossies last game think it was five two and got the train down and hitch hiked back in the fog. Been to all the Leciester away games since the 1970’s one where we got relegated and invaded the pitch another where we won two one to stop going into the third division one of the most violent matches I have been to. Not saying I am a good supporter just some on here say I am a mackem and a troll which I find strange especially Jezza.

          • Albert Stubbins

            I don’t think your a makem just that you have strange views of other supporters. Yes that Leicester away day was great fun. I spent most of the day in Leicester drinking. Only the three of us. Don’t know how we got away with it to be honest.

        • Cockneytrev

          Shame you never got poisoned,,,
          “Hoop licker,,👅👅👅

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            That is the mentality of people on here they hate Newcastle and anyone who supports them.

          • Cockneytrev

            Says he who slags off Shearer and keegan,,,
            Hoop licker,,,👅👅

    • kingfisher

      Leazes and Jezza tell it like it is,they are proper fans,not brainwashed sheep 😁

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Jezza is not a fan and never goes to games just makes up facts and churns out pure hatred towards our club.

        • Albert Stubbins

          For someone who never goes to games he’s got a hell of a memory for exactly what happened in them. You can’t get that kind of detail from the papers man.

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            There is no doubt he went back in the day maybe forty years ago but I have never seen him about especially at away games when there are hardly anyone there eg Moscow when only seventy two went. Think he packed in years back.

    • Wor Lass

      You forgot Ghost Rider, or is it Fun Loving Express?

      • Jezza

        I can’t see the troll’s post because I blocked him long ago. I can only assume that he gave his list of true fans on this forum which was essentially a list of all the different trolling ID’s he and his brother post under.

        • Wor Lass

          Exactly.

        • Albert Stubbins

          He can’t be Clarko as well. Nee one could impersonate that t*** surely?

          • Ram Kishore

            Is clarko a program or a bot?
            I don’t hate him..just sick of him

    • Cockneytrev

      What is that known as ” A gaggle of hoop lickers👅👅”?????
      Or a “Swarm of trolls”????

  • Albert Stubbins

    The Arsenal fans of today are the man city fans of the future. Can’t bear watching a team not winning every week. Poor little lambs. How do they cope?

    • Phil Yare

      cant wait for wenger to leave. then somebody like pardew or mcclaren can come in

      • thewildchimp

        Don’t say it twice, because somebody like Benitez could also come in…

        • Jezza

          Rafa’s incredible achievements with a Championship squad in the Premiership this season will not have gone un-noticed. He will not be short of offers from far more successful and ambitious clubs than Newcastle in the summer.

          • Albert Stubbins

            I’ve said all season that if Rafa can keep us up with the squad he had at his disposal it should be viewed akin to the feeding of the five thousand. A miracle of sorts.

          • Cockneytrev

            I agree,, worst squad we have had since the early 90s

          • Cockneytrev

            That is the worrying scenario,,

        • Phil Yare

          very true. thats why football isn’t fair, you can imagine the arsenal board finding an adequate replacement and not just search through the trash

  • Leazes.

    Not sure what the moral to this tale is! There doesn’t appear to be one, it can’t be stick by your club through thin and thinner and eventually everything will turn out alright because its not true.

    It might just be Aesop’s ‘what a bunch of spoiled gits’ fable, look at us we’re idiots!

  • Phil Yare

    i love it how peoples ‘facts’ become so hazy when it comes to evading the truth. 9000? it seems at least 4000 got written out of history from our worst league attendance. its fair to say attendances varied between this and 26,000 in our darkest days when football grounds were unsafe

    • Jezza

      Yes it is the biggest myth in modern football that Newcastle never got more than a few thousand in St James’s Park before Kevin Keegan became manager. The clown who says “research football before 1992” clearly needs to research football before 1992 himself. In the 1983/84 season for example Newcastle in the second division had an average home attendance of 29,777 making us the fifth best supported club in the country. That figure was also more than 10,000 higher than the average for the first division that season.

      • Tweed Mag

        And you have to remember the state of the stadium – a big chunk of the Leazes end was given to away supporters whether they turned up or not.

      • Jonas

        That was our worst ever attendance season they chose to select – 16500. Its not hard to see Arsenal gates in that area in the pre PL era and i don’t recall organised boycotts their or them playing in the lower reaches of the second division.
        Arsenal v Coventry 2/5/88 16,963 (they won the league the following season)
        of long-standing Newcastle and Man United are the only clubs not to have had a gate below 30,000 in the PL. Love how things like that and more than a quarter of century count for nothing.

        Arsenal
        v Sheffield Wed 12/12/93 22,206 (14,000 down from the previous home game against…..NUFC)

        • Jezza

          You are spot on about the organised boycotts. It’s a point I always make when ever some blowhard mentions the odd isolated small Newcastle crowd from the early 90’s that they have found on a google search.

  • Toon

    Hilarious? Really? Gimpy Porter

  • Danimal

    It might go against the grain for some but have a look at the comments on Arsenal 3-0 Stoke on the Guardian website.

  • TheFatController

    It’s all the fault of Spurs, and Man City.

    Before their vast improvement. The ‘Big 4’ only had to worry about the odd interloper into their champions’ (sic) league gravy train – maybe Everton, or once upon a time us or Leeds, would bump say, Liverpool out.

    Now every year, one misses out completely, or relies on winning the CL or Europa League to get back on the gravy train.

    This year that looks like being Chelsea. And maybe arsenal if Atletico Madrid win the Europa.

    What we’re seeing is the fall out for arsenal supporters. And it’s funny. Sit back and enjoy it, there’ll be more of this from the fans of the ‘gravy train gone off rails’ Big 4 every season ….

    • Albert Stubbins

      Completely agree. There’s a rule change in the offing then. Top six for champions league and no one allowed to be in the top six unless they’re backed by corrupt money!!

      • TheFatController

        It’ll end up being a European league no doubt, all of europe’s elite playing each other on Saturday instead of the occasional Wednesday

    • Ram Kishore

      Glory support and arsenal fans are not used to be out of Champions league anytime in my memory for the past two decades..

  • kingfisher

    “You are giving Newcastle as an example? A team where there has been v little progress since Ashley took charge, their an example of what happens if fans don’t make a stand!”: This statement sums up the main reason why Ashley is still here.Fans going week after week and getting s*** on, then complaining about Ashley.

    One of the other comments is spot on: “football is nothing without hope” When we were in the Championship, we had hope we could get promoted,in the Prem we hope we don’t get relegated.Hopefully we will stay up and Ashley sells up.
    If we stay up and Ashley remains, we are doomed. He will never,never,never change.

    • Wor Lass

      Those two statements sum up the dilemma for the fan. We want to get rid of the parasite but we still live in hope to see our team succeed. Some decide to boycott and others go just to support the lads. It`s a tough one and I`d never slag off those that can`t do without it. My choice is made for me now because I live abroad but before that I chose not to go to home games or spend money in Sh*te Direct for over three years. As 52,000 still turn up, I suppose my sacrifice hasn`t made any difference but he wants to sell up for some reason – let`s just hope he succeeds.

      • kingfisher

        Well said Wor Lass.Some make a stand and some just put up with it.Football is a game of opinions, just like life I suppose 😁

    • Gallowgate Dave

      Kingfisher I’ve read you repeating the same comment over and over many times. You know you don’t have a monopoly on hatred of Ashley don’t you? I’d imagine the majority of the 52,000 that still go, me included, can’t bear the bloke, I’d say it’s far easier to just be apathetic and not bother gannin than it is to organise and/or participate in protest against him. I respect and understand your decision not to gan but it doesn’t make you some visionary man, we all know Ashley doesn’t care about us and wants to run the club on a shoestring. Mass, sustained, vociferous protest could have shifted him and I think there’s plenty to criticise us for as a fan base for not fighting back hard enough but for me just not going doesn’t cut it and certainly doesn’t entitle you to climb on a high horse. Just my opinion.

      • kingfisher

        I know what you are saying Dave, you made some good points there, but I get sick and tired of the same people on one hand giving Ashley dogs abuse, and then on the other hand the same people keep on going to S.J.P.
        You say mass vociferous support could have shifted him, but that never happens, and it’s my opinion that the only way to hurt Ashley is to hit him in the pocket, but it’s perhaps too late to do that now, as this could harm any potential takeover.
        Up until a few years ago I would fight Ashleys corner on some issues, thinking he wasn’t all bad and had for instance put in a lot of his own money, however now I firmly believe that he should sell up and let someone else have a go as I think the proposed (?) takeover is the last chance saloon for nufc. It doesn’t bear thinking about that he will still be here next season !
        I’m by no means climbing on my high horse and I respect your ( and anyone else’s)decision to keep on going. They say football is a game of opinions and we all have differing views, and it’s good to exchange viewpoints without being abusive like some on here! happy Easter !

        • Gallowgate Dave

          Aye Happy Easter to you too fella but just bear in mind you don’t come across as if you respect our decision to keep going. Believe me I’ve almost chucked the towel in myself on a number of occasions and I totally understand why some have made that decision, yourself included, but I go to see friends and family and for the craic and beer as much as the footy and Ashley isn’t going to rob me of that. I disagree with you about the protests though, they clearly embarrassed Ashley as the disbanding of the singing section, extra security and confiscation of anti-Ashley material would prove but too many fans meekly accepted them telling us to fall in line. You’ve got a handful of nutcase Ashley apologists on here who can’t see that he’s a rich bloke with no connection or affinity with the area who has cottoned on to the fact that sport is like no other “business” as you can abuse your “customers” loyalty for profit but don’t tar us all with the same brush. We have far more in common than we do differences, we just choose to react in different ways. I understand why you’ve gone your way but I hope this helps you understand mine without the need to brand us all “happy clappers” etc.

  • ghostrider

    Mountains being made out of molehills all round. The usual stuff.

    • Wor Lass

      MonkSatan forgot to mention you when he listed the “true” fans, below. You need to have a word with yourself.

      • ghostrider

        Never mind eh.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        He was the other one in the post just could not remember his name.

      • Gallowgate Dave

        World’s worst compliment 😂

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      See below just could not remember your name so put one other.

  • kingfisher

    I suppose the situation of some fans deciding to stay away and others just keeping on going is similar to the people who complain about the state of the country and blame the Government,but they can’t be bothered to get off their a*** and vote,whereas others take the trouble to do something about it and go down to the polling station and cast their vote.
    At the end of the day, your vote may not make any difference, but by voting you have registered your dissatisfaction/satisfaction of the current regime, be that Government or football club owner !

  • Grahame Johnson

    Sod the press we got slagged off for blindly following rafa in our bad spell

  • Jamie Lumley

    I couldnt care less what happens in North London. The few genuine Arsenal fans that I work with, don’t seem to look at the world through the same viewpoint as me. Their criticism of Wenger and their ‘lack of success’ isn’t genuine, it’s how they think all ‘footy’ fans behave and they just follow suit. It’s like wearing the shirt for them. If its a bit cold and the match is on telly, why bother going? Wait until Wenger does go – you’ll be able to hear them whinging all the way down the A1.

  • Andynufc

    I always find it amusing when fans of others teams have to go back nearly 30 years to have a go at nufc attendances. It’s such a desperate reach at a dig against nufc fans.haha They talk as if we’ve witnessed countless trophies being won since then. I really couldn’t care less about Arsenal and their fans. If they’re not happy about what’s happening at their club then as paying customers they have the right to moan, wether people think it’s justified or not. Likewise I don’t care what fans think of Nufc or us fans. Supposedly we’re fickle and deluded. We think we should be winning the PL every season blah blah blah. A myth made up by Southern media that a lot of simple minded southerners believe. The fact that the media and a lot of pundits couldn’t understand why fans weren’t shouting for Rafa to be sacked during our bad run of results says it all really.

    • Ram Kishore

      Well said

  • Tino o

    Were they playing at the stadium of light yesterday?

  • Jonas

    talk about myths – there wasn’t a single 9000 gate under Airdiles or anybody else in that era. The record books will show this, the same books I have to hand show that before the PL and in the top division whilst challenging for titles and winning cups Arsenal got gates like this:

    Arsenal v Oxford 16/11/86 19,632
    Arsenal v Norwich 4/4/88 19,341
    Arsenal v Watford 15/4/88 19,541
    Arsenal v Coventry 2/5/88 16,963
    Arsenal v Leeds 17/3/91 26,218 top v 4th – Arsenal win the league, losing once
    Arsenal v Luton 27/8/91 25,898 (reigning champs, 2nd home game)
    Arsenal v Norwich 11/2/92 22,096

    imagine their gates would have been the same as ours at best if instead of challenging for the title and being in the top five all the time, they were in the bottom half of the second division