When Alan Pardew and John Carver rocked up at the Hawthorns, West Brom fans looked for positives.
They were grateful to be rid of the negative presence of Tony Pulis and the overwhelming reaction was that nobody could be worse than the outgoing manager.
The Baggies fans are now reassessing that belief.
Alan Pardew and John Carver took over after West Brom drew 2-2 with Newcastle in late November, at that point they were sixteenth in the table with 12 points from 14 matches.
Four months later they have only added another eight points from a possible 54, Pardew and Carver achieving one Premier League win in 18 games.
On Saturday it was a home defeat to Burnley, making it nine straight defeats in a row in all competitions.
The natives are now happy.
The belief has now moved more towards Alan Pardew being the worst manager West Brom fans have ever seen, judging by the comments below.
Whilst the spotlight is also turning onto his assistant John Carver, with also claims that he was arguing with the West Brom fans on Saturday, allegedly telling them to shut up.
It all sounds depressingly familiar…but for Newcastle supporters just a distant nightmare now.
West Brom fans commenting via their top WestBrom.com message board:
‘John Carver has always come across as someone who is very simple.
Alan Pardew seems to have melted under the pressure.
The last couple of months the team selections and tactics have been all over the place. Clearly he’s lost what ability he had to appraise the strengths and weaknesses of the squad.
I’m pretty sure that the majority of our fan base would have done a better job. We’ve watched this squad for years, he’s turned up last October and slowly lost the plot.’
‘Well said, I too think he has completely lost the plot and doesn’t know what to do. There were so many tactical changes yesterday it bordered on the ridiculous.’
‘Apparently John Carver told our fans in the Halford to “shut their gob” when moaned at, not only this but stewards then threatened to remove fans because of this..
This is absolutely disgraceful and I want him and that complete muppet Pardew out of our club as soon as possible.’
‘I would love to know what is going on in Pardew’s head.
Carver telling people to keep their mouths shut must of gone down like a lead balloon.’
‘I think Alan Pardew has had assurances he’s in charge at start of next season, so therefore “the edge” has been taken away. Also, there’s no sacking calls from the stands so he thinks he’s doing well.
The club is just in complete disarray with no leadership to be seen anywhere. It would be best if the fans chose 1 of the remaining games and just did not bother turning up so they played to an empty stadium.’
‘John Carver is a laughing stock at Newcastle.
But Pardew believes in him and the club believes in Pardew.’
‘So this week Alan Pardew said he’d like to manage us even in the Championship. Seriously, what planet is this man on?’
‘Planet Pardew. The bloke is so egotistical and up himself he probably thinks this is all down to the previous management and he has no part to play in the demise of our club.
I think the day the R is our next to our name the club will pull the trigger and we will be Pardew free.’
‘Beggars belief doesn’t it. Pardew knows he will really struggle to get a job after this. Yes he is worse than Pulis and I didn’t think that was even possible.’
‘Is that buffoon and his hapless geordie sidekick still there????
Never been so depressed as watching that rubbish yesterday. What has happened to our wonderful club?
Alan, please just go and at least save a little bit of dignity…’
‘I cannot make out if Alan Pardew is deluded, forgetful or just taking the p….’
‘Pardew just “runs with the hare and the hounds” match after match, week after week. There is no game plan, there is no studying of opponents, it’s just crazy.
As has already been said, I don’t know what happens in training. Do they just play Headers & Volleys or Wembley and that’s it?’
‘In the summer Pardew needs to go as does Carver.’
‘If I had the money I would pay Pardew to f… off now.
To hear him talking about next season makes me so angry. Absolutely no shame.’
‘We all know Alan Pardew is a clown and couldn’t organise a p… up in a brewery.’
‘Board have been a disgrace in letting this idiot keep hold of his job.’
‘Must be getting close to being our worst manager of all time at this point.
It’s easy to forget we were out the relegation zone when he came now we’re set to end as one of the worst premier league sides of all time.’
‘Please please get rid of this clown, regardless of the cost.’
‘Does anybody else suspect that maybe the problems could be down to John Carver’s coaching?’
‘All I know is that when Carver was at NUFC didn’t he fall into the manager’s job for a while and tell the world he was a great coach?’