On 29 June 2017 the official Newcastle United Fans Forum had a meeting with club officials, including Lee Charnley.

The official minutes showed that the next meeting was scheduled for September 2017.

However, that meeting never took place and the months have gone by.

The club ignoring requests for information on why they were refusing to meet supporters.

What is particularly strange, is that this isn’t some radical collection of Newcastle fans that they meet up with.

The club actually hand pick who they meet (fans don’t vote in representatives) and take unilateral action (without a vote by Fans Forum members) when they decide they want to get rid of anybody they don’t like. As was the case when banning the Newcastle United Supporters Trust representative in the early days of the Fans Forum.

It is now March 2018 and nine months since Fans Forum members were last allowed to meet the club officials.

However, one of the Forum members has revealed that a meeting is now planned, to take place some 10 months after the last one.

Kris Woods is listed as the ‘Gallowgate End Representative’ and he has let fans know via his Twitter account that a meeting will now go ahead in April. He has promised to put forward any issues/queries that supporters might have.

The communications with fans are a joke at Newcastle United with nobody but Rafa Benitez speaking in public to the media and supporters.

We can only speculate as to what awkward questions NUFC were wanting to avoid by refusing to meet their own hand pick official Fans Forum.

So now we are no doubt set to find out what message the club want to get out next month, no doubt hoping that Premier League safety will be in the bag by the time they meet, with potentially the Fans Forum minutes giving us some idea/clues as to the direction of the club after this season.

  • Rich Lawson

    Good,I was worried what Bob Moncur was doing with his time now ?

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  • pedrodelgardo

    First item on the agenda: what colour seats should we sit on at the next meeting?

  • Damon Horner

    Shame it’s hand picked. Having Leazes on the panel would be entertaining.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      Leazes’ is a liar. It was only hand-picked in so far as a request for proposals failed to come up with enough names.

  • Leazes.

    Right then firstly it isn’t the clubs right to decide upon meetings when it likes [as Article 35 of the UEFA Licencing and fair play Regulations]….

    The UEFA directive clearly says that the meeting shall appoint the Chair and not have it ‘foisted on them’ by the club. It isn’t up to the club to make appointments of its choice….. it is up to the meeting to take applications!

    The article states a basic aim

    To provide some guarantee that a
    minimum level of communication
    flow occurs between clubs and their
    supporters and hence reduce the
    likelihood of supporters becoming

    You will not find out anything about the clubs aims unless you accidentally bump into the owner during his 10.30 coffee break in pre-a-bloody-manger!

    Guidance from UEFA [p21] The SLO (supporters Liaison Officer) at English Premier League
    club Arsenal, for example, is to pull the
    supporters’ clubs together (approximately
    120 branches). In this process it is
    important to let supporters’ clubs retain
    their independence. Clubs should recognise
    them, while asking them to follow certain
    guidelines, but otherwise give them a free rein.

    Newcastle banned the Supporters trust, set their own agenda and went silent for a year!

    Newcastle united is in total breach of guidelines set out, and hold UEFA and its own fans in complete contempt.

    • Steven05

      HOW does he get away it all??

      It can’t be the case that it’s just because we are not one of the media darling ‘big’ clubs, or is it…

      • Leazes.

        Directives and regulations are flaunted…. unfortunately they are only guidelines so the do the minimum to comply.

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        It’s because the article is riddled with misleading opinion, there is no getting away with it.

        The Forum was delayed as the original representatives were appointed for a fixed period. Most (if not all) ended their stint in the Summer / Autumn 2017 but an appeal for new representatives failed in many cases to even muster a proposer for each role. It has struggled to get numbers.

        Funny, for all the hot air we get from proven liars such as Leazes’ and Jezza, those people don’t want to engage in a formal way.

    • Rich Lawson

      Presumably ”guidelines” mean this is not enforcable and our naughty owner cannot receive a fine or slap on the wrist for this oversight ?

      • Leazes.

        Just said it below…yup… its still contempt whichever way you look at it.


  • Leazes.

    Anyone have questions for Mr, Charnley?

    I’ll start

    1. Why was the Strawberry Place land sold for less money than it had in its account?

    The Strawberry place development Company owned by Newcastle United had £2.499.999.00 in its account….and the land sold off for just over £1m to make only what we paid for it…In one fell swoop destroying the prospects of developing the club into the 21st century on this prime location.

    This constitutes an abdication of the boards prime directive to safeguard the clubs future.

    In light of this we the supporters condemn both the owner and the chairman for the handling of this sale.

    • Rich Lawson

      Who do we think will be there to represent the club,it’s a small pot to (p##s in) choose from ?

      • Leazes.

        Moncur is still in that role, though no longer a director.

    • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

      I can answer the first couple, in fact I’ve told you enough times but you are too slow to understand.

      In in the accounts for 2010, you will see the following note:

      Mr MJW Ashley also continued to provide loan facilities to the Group during the year. The total balance outstanding at 30 June 2010 was £139.8 million (2009 – £111.0million). The maximum outstanding in the year was £140.0 million (2011 – £140.0million). No interest was payable on the loan for either the current or the prior year.’

      On 3 September 2009 the company’s shareholding in MGM grand Newcastle (holdings) transferred to St James holdings limited for a consideration of £5 million resulting in a PROFIT for the Group (the Group being Newcastle United Limited) of £2.5million.

      In the same notes, NUFC transferred Freehold land of Project Newco 40 and the Leasehold property Project Newco 39 to MASH (this is the 2 bits of land that formed the Metro car park on which the defunct MGM casino was to be built) resulting in a PROFIT OF £0.3M.

      You are talking rubbish, this did not “In one fell swoop destroying the prospects of developing the club into the 21st century on this prime location.”. The Super casino which was proposed on the back of the then Labour government’s idea of having a super casino to revamp ailing cities. Like many Labour initiatives, they hadn’t thought it through and then, after private business ploughed money in, Labour changed it’s mind. What the sale did was allow the club to make a profit on a defunct white elephant.

      • Brian Standen

        It may be true that Mr Leazes does in fact bend the truth but his question is still relevant!
        MASH holdings who in effect own NUFC have in fact put plans in place to prevent the growth of NUFC!
        While all other clubs milk the cash cow while it is there and at least try to grow NUFC stagnates due to one man and his arrogance and greed.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          The question is relevent but I’ve told him the answer numerous times. He knows the facts, they are in the public domain but he’s knowingly stating incorrect facts, he’s a liar. He implies there is something shady going on but the answer is clear.

          He asks, ” Why was the Strawberry Place land sold for less money than it had in its account?” The answer is it wasn’t, it was sold to St James holdings for £5m, that being £2.5m MORE than in the accounts, the club made a big profit for crying out loud.

          Separately, the club also made a profit on the land.

          Far from preventing growth, this money went into the club providing the club with working capital to get promotion back to the premier league and avoid FFP penalty.

          I don’t understand your claim that MASH holdings have in fact put plans in place to prevent the growth of NUFC. Can you explain? It seems to me that the transaction turned a while elephant into a springboard for progress.