“We all dream of a team of Joselus… a team of Joselus”

It doesn’t quite have a catchy ring to it, does it? A laughable chant in fact given that our centre forward has only scored four Premier League goals this season and has passed up key chances in key games (that would probably mean by this point we would be safe).

However, for quite a while now, all I have ever really wanted at Newcastle United is a team of Joselus.

A team filled with players who are quite clearly proud to wear the shirt and who give 100% whenever they are on the field. As fans, that is all we can really demand from players, is it not?

The Mag highlighted a few idiots (see HERE) on Tuesday, who had left horrible comments on one of the club’s official social media feeds after they wished Joselu happy birthday.

First thing, this isn’t an isolated incident. A quick look through the player’s own twitter profile shows that there are quite a few fans who constantly leave comments of this sort, whenever he uploads anything to social media. They are by no means the majority – but certainly enough for it draw your attention.

I am sure there are many reading this who think that Joselu is a load of rubbish – I for one don’t think he is that good, or good enough for us at this level. However, he plays for Newcastle United, he certainly seems like a nice guy, and he clearly goes out there onto the pitch to give his all.

So what is the problem? I just don’t get it.

Those slagging off Joselu directly to his profile just can’t be real Newcastle fans. It might be an idealist train of thought but I would like to think that anyone who was actually a Newcastle fan would get behind any player wearing a black and white shirt.

Here is another way of looking at it if anyone disagrees with that…

I think Ayoze Perez is rubbish. Aside from his first season at Newcastle in which he played up front by himself and did well, and aside from the past few weeks in which I think every member of the playing squad has done well, I would describe him as useless.

However, he plays for Newcastle United and that’s good enough for me to get behind him and support him. When he goes out onto that pitch, I am not going to slag him off, or boo him off the pitch, or sarcastically jeer when he is subbed (as happened with Joselu) – there are very few unwritten rules about what makes a good football fan, but getting behind your team for 90 minutes when you are in the stadium watching them is one of them.

Likewise, there are few rules about what makes a bad football fan – and I am sure directly slagging off good honest professionals on social media is one of them. The only positive to take from it is that they are only kids – although suggestions from a few in the comments section of the original suggesting that this is a total one-off, and not representative of even a fraction of the fanbase, I’m afraid is not true.

Alas, I write another article in which I refer to the 10-year-old kid and his father who sit behind me at the in the Gallowgate. Whenever the ball is passed to Joselu the kid will shout ‘why are you passing to him’ or just shout directly ‘you are rubbish man’. His Dad does nothing at all to tell him that isn’t really the way of going about things – so I do weep for the future in this regard.

Having a short memory is a classic attribute of the modern day football fan: I hope many don’t forget the group of players we had only two years ago, the mercenaries of the last relegation… while I am constantly reminded by my father of how bad we were in the eighties (although at least those guys tried, they just weren’t very good).

In January 2015 we played Watford twice at Vicarage Road over a two week spell. Once in the league and once in the FA Cup. We lost both games. It featured a Newcastle side containing such as Janmaat, Coloccini, Sissoko, Thauvin, Wijnaldum, Riviere, Gouffran, Saivet and Aarons. I am sure some of you will say a few of those guys give their all for Newcastle United but at certain times I would certainly disagree.

The first match will live long in my memory as a game in which Newcastle fans sang “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” to Florian Thauvin, as he lay rolling around on the pitch, five yards in front of the away end.

It was pretty brutal – but a stark reminder that more than anything, all we can ask for are players with a little bit of heart and desire. In fact, Thauvin’s miraculous performances for Marseille this season show it certainly wasn’t ability that he was lacking.

In the second game Newcastle were absolutely terrible – it was Jonjo Shelvey’s first away game and he was running around to make an impression. He actually tried so hard that day that it showed up the rest of the team – Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Saivet, Aarons etc. Newcastle lost and the players were booed off the pitch – so much so that the few who did brave it to come over to the away end, were very impolitely told where they could go.

It was since that day, that all I have ever really wanted was a team of players who just try. They honestly don’t have to be that good. The Championship isn’t even that bad (although god help us if we were playing in League 1 next season…).

All I really wanted was a group of players who were proud to wear the shirt, gave their all and looked liked they cared about playing for Newcastle United.

All I really wanted was a team of Joselus…

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  • I get where you are coming from.

    Yes, the Hoss tries. He may not have Premier League skill levels but that is down to buying policy from Ashley.

    At the end of the season, his work rate and attitude will have hopefully helped to achieve the objective of staying up.

    If Ashley had invested £30m in a striker, I might be disappointed with Hoss. As it is, he does his job within his ability level.

    Good luck to the lad.

  • Leazes.

    The ten year old knows more about football than you…you knacker!

    • Jonathan Drape-Comyn

      He definitely doesn’t… you knacker!

      • Leazes.

        Tory Boy!

        • Jonathan Drape-Comyn

          Labour member, help out with NUFC Foodbank and various development charities in London/Norfolk area. Dad is from Daisyhill/Walker, and Mum is from Winlaton.

          Just because I go to Durham University doesn’t mean I am a bad person.

          I always think you should get to know someone before saying things like that.

          Happy to grab a pint one day before the game if you like.

          • Leazes.

            Really…. I thought the Liverpool fans had nailed you in one!

            There you go, sorry!

    • Ram Kishore

      Leazes is that u being bad ass ?
      I thought u were always sensible in your comments.

  • Mag_Ladd

    The top reply from the tweet NUFC sent wishing Joselu a happy birthday was canny funny though “Tried blow the candles out on his cake but missed”

    • Ram Kishore

      This was sarcastic one 😂😂

      • Mag_Ladd

        Well nar

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    So why when Perez starts do we get 1.40 points per game more than any player and when he does not we get 0.40 points per game. He won us the game against Southampton creating the second goal and got the winner at Stoke. Without him we would be in the relegation zone full stop and I will say it again you no nothing about football saying he is rubbish. Joselu tries hard wins headers but some supporters on this site hate Newcastle full stop be the same ones who made the comments against him. Rafa picks Perez as he links the striker with the midfield and he is top of the points won per player this season but you are to thick to know this. If you were manager Perez would never play and guess where we would be relegated.

    • Jonathan Drape-Comyn

      that’s probably why i’m not the manager then isn’t it?

      • Jonathan Drape-Comyn

        god forbid i have an opinion on a footballer (which i think many fans also share). anarchy!

    • Jonathan Drape-Comyn

      It also appears from several of your posts whenever I mention or rate Perez that you only ever seem to use one stat that was recently provided by Chris Holt? (whose stats are bloody brilliant btw).

      Stats are always a good indicator – but i reckon you let yourself down by suggesting that Ayoze Perez is the bedrock of our team and without him Newcastle would in the relegation in. I like to think most fans would know thats simply not true.

      Also, I like to read all of the stats so not ‘too thick’ to know this. Remember when you quote stats, if Perez doesn’t play, that doesn’t mean that he doesn’t get replaced by someone else… we don’t then just play with 10 men when Ayoze isn’t around.

      Fair enough you have your opinion on him and think he’s decent, I disagree… but come off it suggesting that because you read one stat he is the most important player at Newcastle.

      • grumpyoldmag

        I don’t understand though why you differentiate between the two and constantly slag Perez off – I agree he’s not great but he also runs his wotsits off every week same as hoss

        • Jonathan Drape-Comyn

          i don’t actually think he does work his socks off to be honest… not for one minute saying he doesn’t try though.

          my main grudge with Perez, and this is coming from someone who hasn’t missed many games home and away since he joined, is his constant whining, rolling around, diving… many a time when the play is going on and all he wants to do is complain to the referee or throw his arms around.

          i don’t constantly slag him off, i just give me opinion on how he has played after a game.

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            Perez hasn`t kicked on in 2 years & in my opinion he`s just not up to the job & if there was anybody else ie the number 10 Rafa`s been after for 18 months Perez would be on the bench, At best

          • grumpyoldmag

            Agree on the flouncing around stuff

      • Ram Kishore

        Jonathan what grumpyoldmag just said was true..just like hoss he tries harder but he frustrates me whenever he goes down too easily or make those idiotic shots on goal when he can clearly make a pass

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          I tend to only see live games away from home and perhaps that suits Perez.

          Perez makes a lot of off the ball runs to create space for others. His first touch is good and he’s able to wiggle out of tight situations but also seems to run and run and run.

          You don’t need to be making sliding tackles and challenges constantly to make a difference. Simple runs into space and tracking runs back into midfield have a huge impact over the course of 90 minutes.

          This seems to me to be why Joselu held onto his place for so long ahead of Gayle and especially Mitrovic. when Gayle came into the side he tended to play high up the pitch and waiting for through balls which is OK in the championship because defences sent to be flatter and higher. In the PL, the demands in a side like ours are more than this. Since the turn of the year, Gayle has really upped his work rate and appears much more of a team player – it’s no coincidence IMHO that this has coincided with Joselu losing his place.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        I had the same opinion long before I read the stats. What I cannot stand is all the national and local papers giving him seven most weeks and the Mag giving him 3.4. All that this shows is the complete bias against Perez on this site and a lesser extent Joselu. In your article you said Perez is rubbish which is a little unfair to say the least.

    • Wor Lass

      I think you`re right about the bias against Perez shown generally on the Mag – there always has to be a whipping boy, for some reason. But he has been disappointing – whatever the stats show. He hasn`t been as good as we all hoped/expected after that first season. I still think he deserves a place in the match-day squad and I believe that as the team improves then so will he. I also think you`re wrong to imply that jonathan hates Newcastle. I often disagree with his opinion (especially his player ratings) but he is clearly a dedicated fan.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        That implication was not directed at Jonathan but others on here
        who can only post negative comments and if we ever get a new owner would have to go on some sort of programme to get treatment to stop them hating Newcastle and the club. Having said that his comment that Perez is rubbish shows he has a lot to learn about football.

  • steve

    Does he really try that hard? It seems to have become the go to defence that Joselu doesn’t have much ability but at least he works hard. But I have to say that I haven’t noticed, he lumbers around the pitch like a cart horse never really breaking into a sprint.

    • Mike Adam

      They think he plays hard and follows instructions because Rafa and the GPS say so.

  • Wor Lass

    In his first few games the fans loved him and applauded his efforts. it was good to see someone trying and doing sensible things with the ball. But he doesn`t score and that`s his prime task. After almost a full season you can understand people getting exasperated and a bit sarcastic, especially when he was still being picked week in and week out while we had a very popular striker scoring for his country but sitting on his a$$ watching, but some of those messages are just unacceptable.

  • NUFCDan

    I think the main reason Joselu gets so much grief is the casual fans still have a massive lob on for Mitro even though he is no better.

    • TheFatController

      i suspect the ‘cult of Mitro’ is just a gang of those people who have to blame someone for any stress they have in life. Therefore they happily see themselves as the victims of “Rafa’s personal vendetta against our best by far centre forward…”

      Their reaction to our relegation threat is to hang their hat on the easy solution (in their eyes) of playing Mitro, being in complete denial of the main issue of a lack of funding in transfer windows.

      People who need to blame usually find the easily blamed option, rarely the correct one, if it’s a tougher target.

  • Rich Lawson

    Effort is wonderful but sadly if your playing up front it needs to be transmuted into goals,which is where we are shy this season ?