Debate Of The Day: Newcastle need Leeds and Sunderland not Bournemouth and Swansea
The latest article to be highlighted in our new Debate of the day feature is: ‘Newcastle fans need Leeds, Sunderland and have to lose these 9 Premier League clubs’.
Every article we publish on The Mag, fans are invited to comment at the end of it (it only takes a minute to register and then you can comment on anything you read on here).
There are some great conversations between supporters commenting on what has been written, not always agreeing with the author…
We are now going to regularly pick out an article that has produced interesting debate afterwards.
Sometimes the comments can be more interesting that the initial article…but not everybody reads the comments, so we thought some of the conversations deserved a bigger audience.
The article highlighted today has already had 50 comments and the basis of the article, is that the writer is saying that Newcastle fans need clubs such as Leeds, Sunderland, Forest, Villa and others, rather than the likes of Bournemouth, Swansea, Palace and the like. The reasoning (of the author) being that matches are far better at St James Park against clubs who we have a traditional rivalry against, have a big history, have a bigger fanbase etc – which equals better atmosphere and games that matter more to fans.
(If you want to read the original article and/or leave your own comment (or you can do it at the bottom of this one…) go HERE):
Comments after ‘Newcastle fans need Leeds, Sunderland and have to lose these 9 Premier League clubs’:
‘Sounds like you’re missing a bit of a roll around?
That kind of passion and energy has gone from the game, or gone from the premier league anyway, the powers that be don’t want any excitement from the crowd, they just want us to sit still, cheer occasionally and pour money into their pockets through online gambling.
When the fun stops, STOP. When was it last fun to watch football? 1996 by my reckoning …..’
‘The arrogance is absolutely astounding.
A sense of a mindset of a person who believes one city stands high and proud way above most others, let alone a football club.
I love Newcastle United as much as the next fan/supporter and it’s easy to get dragged into the melee of playing the game of school day player picks by the two supposed best players who take turns in choosing their best team and leave all the weakest kids till last, whilst both trying to get the best.
A massive stench of some kind of entitlement that is based on some kind of fantasy.
Can you imagine a team like Bournemouth who’s fans come out with similar and don’t mention Newcastle in their premier league teams?
Nostalgia is one thing but a sense of entitlement where there is none, is another.
Let’s not get above our station.’
The Fat Controller:
‘There was no sense of entitlement in the article, just the the sense of missing teams the writer feels we have rivalry with.
Stunning that you are seeing what you want to see and not what was written…merit, entitlement etc were all accounted for and taken out of the article yet you bring them back in….?’
‘I’ve supported the club for over 50yrs and been to a lot of away grounds, but for me nobody comes close to Leeds fans for sheer nastiness and aggression toward the away support.
Come to that I’ve even seen some of them verbally abusing their own disabled support at Elland Rd,while the stewards stood and laughed ! Don’t miss them at all.’
‘True Rich and add Boro to that list .
An England game to be played at Elland road WTF, the most loathsome angry fans on the planet.’
‘They’ve had torrid times up here and also down there in early 80’s as well from Newcastle fans. It’s been by far a one way street.’
‘Remember playing dodge the seat /coin/ brick at coach etc in 82/83. I get nostalgic about most things, not that!’
‘The point is for what ever reason teams in the North are doing badly teams in the South are replacing them. Yes we have the Manchester and Liverpool clubs but apart from them it is falling apart. Boro, Leeds both Sheffield’s , Derby and now Sunderland seem to have taken a break from the Premiership.
Well done to Ashley for making a go of things unlike the other clubs up here and in Yorkshire.’
‘Making a go of things…..
Explain that please, I thought we’d been relegated twice, never progressed past the 4th round of the FA cup, and been fighting to stay in the PL for the remainder bar one lucky season!’
‘With increasing travel prices and the ever increasing rearrangement of fixtures to suit Sky, BT and whoever else in future without a care for the fans, perhaps a northern and southern league is an idea with the winners of each playing for the big brize at the end of the season.
Still get away games elsewhere in the cups. I dont mind travelling anywhere but I did love last season playing a lot of big clubs closer to home.’
‘What the EPL is missing is the huge blocks of safe standing that come the closest to replicating the terraces of old.
Would love to see a B&W version of the Dortmund Yellow Wall on the Gallowgate. The EPL has no interest in driving this forward though.
The only attraction of other Northern clubs is the fact that you don’t have to travel for half a day to get there.’
‘Interesting that 3 teams on your hit list Burnley, Stoke and West Brom were founder members of the football league in 1888.
I think they might have a valid argument over history and tradition. The league never lies. You are where you are on merit.’
The Fat Controller:
‘In fairness to the author, the article was about rivalry and match day build up/atmosphere, he alluded to merit, and heritage and tradition would include Notts County, another less than celebrated fixture for us…
It’s not an article about the league lying or not, it’s about teams you look forward to thumping or hate getting thumped by.’
‘I’d have all those clubs back………except Sunlun and Villa……’
‘While I’d like to see all those teams back in the Premiership, the likes of Watford, Burnley, Brighton, Stoke, Southampton, Swansea and Bournemouth are all there on merit.
Not only that but I find these (no disrespect) smaller clubs make the top division infinitly more interesting. The presence of these unglamorous unfashionable teams also p!sses off Sky Sports so that is an added bonus.’
‘The heartlands of football are the traditional Industrial Cities, not Walmington on Sea, or someplace where the local transport is a bathtub on wheels, but industry has now gone and we have centres of population and especially centers of wealth which are taking football away…. I’m not keen as most of those places are down south!
Our region like Liverpool and elsewhere has continued to have a net drain of population whilst the southeast is the beneficiary ….and that is going on unabated.’
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