Former Newcastle star Rob Lee has been talking about how depressing Newcastle United has become under Mike Ashley’s ownership.

The one-time midfielder says that ‘Mike Ashley takes one step forward and then three giant steps backwards’.

Rob Lee states that Newcastle United is now desperate for a change of ownership.

To sum up the current predicament, Keegan’s former star talks of how pointless it is to get promotion whilst Ashley remains in control.

Rob Lee declaring ‘There is no point though in Newcastle getting into the Premier League then keeping the same players that got them there’.

The feeling of many/most Newcastle supporters is that if Mike Ashley stays, then there is little chance of Rafa Benitez continuing for much longer.

The dream scenario being for Premier League safety to be ensured as soon as possible and then a takeover quickly sorted.

However, on that front Rob Lee see ‘The takeover has become a stalemate’ due to the reported difference in valuation at the minute between Ashley and the Amanda Staveley bidders.

As Lee points out, Newcastle United ‘has been in decline for such a long time’ and now the likes of ‘Bournemouth and Watford have both spent more than us‘.

Something has to change and that change has to be very soon.

Rob Lee talking to BBC Radio Newcastle:

“The club has been in decline for such a long time.

Mike Ashley takes one step forward and then three giant steps backwards.

“It is time now for change, we need change.

“We need someone else to take the helm.

“The takeover has become a stalemate.

“It is complicated, with Mike Ashley wanting a certain amount but prospective buyers only willing to pay a certain amount, because of what they value the club at.

“There is no point though in Newcastle getting into the Premier League then keeping the same players that got them there.

“Sometimes you need better players.

“Bournemouth and Watford have both spent more than us.

Newcastle is a huge club but it does not feel like that anymore, people don’t want to play for them anymore.

“We were challenging the top teams like Manchester United and Arsenal, had trips to Europe, but it all seems so far away now.”



  • Paul Patterson

    He has a point to be fair . .

  • frigopie76

    Mike ashley wants his money back (plus a large profit). However, over his years here, he has lessened Newcastles reputation and value. I just hope that expectation doesn’t go too high when we do eventually get rid of the big man. A massive rebuild and re-structure will be required to fix our club.

    • magpiefifer

      He’s not a big man – just a fat slob!!!

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      Hardly a large profit just what he put in and like the Halls and Shepherd who put in a million and took one hundred and forty four million out.

      • Kneebotherm8

        Eff off you stupid cnt……and that’s putting it mildly you fckn halfwit..

      • Danimal

        They massively and visibly improved the product. That’s the traditional way of adding value.

        • Kneebotherm8

          Before Hall took over,this club was one massive shambles…dilapidated stadium…….with a team rapidly heading for the third tier of English football and possible oblivion……..it was in a helluva lot better state when he left….according to the usual suspects on here he was actually a bad thing for the club…….short or selective memories,I would suggest..

  • KRS1

    Let’s see if the Ashley apologists have a go at Rob. They dont mind having a go at Shearer. I am talking about you Mongseaton Muppet.

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      So if Shearer and Rob Lee have anything about them they would buy the club but all they do is talk the talk all words no action. Ashley saved the club from bankruptcy and pays the players wages while Shearer and Lee put the boot in. Ashley saved our club. To Mr Shearer and Mr Lee would like to ask them how the following teams in the north are doing. Sunderland, Middlesboro, Darlington, Hartlepool, Carlisle, Workington, Barrow Scarborough, York. If they had any bottle would take the club over but they are just two pathetic pundits.

      • KRS1

        And is if by magic you and ghost troll appear to defend the indefensible. You 2 clowns make me laugh! I bet if Ashley got having sex with a horse you would say “it wasn’t Mike’s fault the horse gave him the eyes, it was asking for it”

        • Jezza

          Monkseaton and ghostbuster are the same person.

        • Peaky Magpie

          🤣😂🤣😂

      • Danimal

        If he came in to save it from bankruptcy why did he have to pay so much for the shares? Surely he could have picked it up for a quid if it was about to go bust.

        • Cockneytrev

          Exactly,, he never saved us , as we weren’t drowning,, it’s all hypothetical,, not one of these trollls can prove we would have been bancrupt if Ashley hadn’t bought us,,

  • molend

    For all those who reckon we’re just an average club at the back of beyond, listen to Rob Lee: ‘WE’. He’s a Cockney,isnt’ he, but he still identifies with the Toon. Given, Macdonald and loads of others have come here and reckoned it was special. Pav, Asprilla, and so on. Okay, it doesn’t win you anything, and we’re still deep in the mire, but the fans aren’t deluded. It’s still a cracking thing to be a United supporter.

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      Only in Newcastle i`m afraid the Fat lad has made us a laughing stock

      • molend

        You’re right, of course, looked at from the outside- although a lot of fans sympathize (see the Liverpool comments). I was trying to point to the fact that we shouldn’t get dragged down into the depression of the Ashley regime. It’s terrible. It’s done untold harm. But there’s still something there that just wants a spark to ignite it. Why, for example, do you still care, as, like me, you obviously do?

        • Ben Jones

          Woah woah woah steady on , your posts are much better when you sprinkle them with your humour . Voted down

    • Kneebotherm8

      Just what I thought,he loves the toon unlike that other cockney…..fat Mike.

    • nufcslf

      The most important thing was it had everything to do with football and being entertained. 1 home win every 4 months really does sweet f** k all for me. Thick owner that doesn’t care, remedy for disaster.

    • Geordiegiants

      Was

  • Mrkgw

    Ashley out. We won”t stop until he is gone.

    • Steven05

      I agree. Surely amongst ourselves we can think of SOMETHING that might help?? Tarnish sportsdireshites reputation further? He has shown that he is not immune – we just have to find the right buttons. And I don’t want to hear that there’s nothing we can do – there’s always something

      • ghostrider

        Don’t go anymore and wait till everything’s warm and sunny inside and outside the club, then you can restart your love affair with a talk the talk in the sun new owner (s) and live happily ever after until they are named on the big banners.

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      And who is going to take over the club and run it and pay the players wages can you tell me that.

      • HarryHype59

        The TV money this year exceeds the wage bill by at least £25m.

        • Ben Jones

          Sweet!
          Transfer funds guaranteed! Can’t wait till next season now!

          You’ve cheered me up no end Harry :)

        • Jezza

          Newcastle United FC are now making more profit than at any time in the club’s history yet our transfer spending is virtually at an all time low.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            This season, you may be right but we don’t see all of the cash until the end of the season.

            It’s likely that we lost more last season than at any time since the Shepherd and Hall era, it all has to be paid for.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          But we spend £40m on transfers?

          • HarryHype59

            That £40m was mainly funded from other player sales! The net spend was a pitiful £11.5m.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            The figures on Transfer market say €25m + €9m for Merino. I’d love to get your exchange rate when I next go to Europe

      • Mrkgw

        Yes, Capital Group would be one example. Anyone. Just not Mike Ashley.

    • ghostrider

      Won’t stop what?

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    I have an idea why does not Shearer, Rob Lee and a couple of others buy the club and see if they can do any better instead of shouting their mouths of. Looking forward to it.

    • Down Under Mag

      Do you think even between them they have the 350m that Ashley wants? They are fans who want better for the club than what Ashley is currently providing…they are entitled to their opinion and unlike most of the fans they have an avenue to voic etheir concern in a public domain so that a lot of people hear it. It is a good thing…what you have said is that unless any fan can buy the club themselves then they have no right to an opinion…

      • ghostrider

        Well they’re shouting the odds so let them all get together and do what they keep telling Ashley to do.

        • Dillon Tovak

          Yeah if they each put a million in, 600 ex-players can bank roll the turnaround. 🤪

          • Jezza

            Don’t feed the troll, lads. If you are going to reply to him, just rub it in that we stuffed his team on Sunday.

      • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

        It would take 150,000 fans putting just £2,333 in to buy the club. If Lee wanted to put in more, even better. Maybe Shearer may put his money where his mouth is.

    • Westdentoon

      I have a idea. Why don’t you go back to school and re-sit GCSE English instead of spouting off your absolute pony craic on here?

  • ghostrider

    All well and good shouting and screaming for Ashley to leave and new owners come in to …..to do what exactly?
    Spend lots of money or just enough and what is just enough in terms of putting this club on the map?
    What kind of owners can we expect?
    Anyone know?

    • Down Under Mag

      No-one is expecting us to compete with City, no-one in the league can and they are systematically destroying football and unless somethign is done then your sentiments are probably going to be echoed by a lot of clubs that take the “why bother” approach. Why should Liverpool spend 75m on a defender just to compete for a Champions League place and have no hope of winnign the title??

      What Shearer, Lee and most of us expect though is for the club to be able to compete with the likes of Palace, Southampton, Burnley and Brighton when it comes to signings.

      • ghostrider

        We are competing and easily.
        What we aren’t doing is paying high transfer fees for players who command high wages to perform the same actions that the players we already have are.
        We are 13th whilst playing mostly mediocre football in a dire sense with the odd excitement hemmed in and yet we are more than competing with these teams.

        Or is it that we aren’t trying to compete with Man City and the likes but don’t want to be called deluded?

        • Geordiegiants

          You can’t tell us that we can’t compete with Leicester or Everton. We were bigger, better and more appealing than either of those 2 until the cancer that consumed our club came along.

          • ghostrider

            We can compete. We aren’t far behind them and yet they’ve spent big money but only money they received from sales.
            They appear to splash out but the reality is far different.
            The difference between us and them is in wages.

            You see, even though they appear to spend big on transfers but actually don’t when the net spend is factored in, like we always see our fans try to use against Ashley….those clubs amass larger and larger wages bills until it becomes unsustainable….and it will when the owners get a bit fed up of results not going their way and realising that high end competing requires real splashing of real cash.

            This is when you see all those club sitting down below.
            Look at Southampton and Palace and West Ham, etc.
            All clubs with hefty wage bills because they keep adding mercenaries.

            Once we start that business, we are finished.
            The way we work now is not ideal but it can be tweaked a little in the market and with Rafa’s help in being a bit more balanced like he’s started to do with the players at his disposal.

            Fans are fickle and seriously nothing will ever be good enough. We will always expect more, no matter what.

          • Geordiegiants

            🤣😂🤣😂🤣

          • Kneebotherm8

            Couldn’t agree more.

    • Ben Jones

      It would be a lot easier if they just ADMITTED they want a sugar daddy to spend his/her money on the fans pipedream . You know it and I know it that’s what they want but they can’t bring themselves to admit it as it shows them up for what they are . That’s why they make up that he’s taking money out of the club (he hasn’t no proof) because that’s a convenient place to reside as they can moan about lack of ‘investment’ when the reality is the club has spent or still has the money that it’s earned .

      Imagine potential buyers coming in and looking at the books , seeing everything is in order and he’s took nothing out of the club and then seeing how the fans are carrying on , what idiot would buy into that? They think there is benevolent billionaires out there just itching to lose a huge chunk of their fortunes on the pipedreams of fans . Deluded

      • ghostrider

        Absolutely correct.
        Fans have very short memories when it comes to admitting the bad but long ones for reminiscing the good times.
        Like you say with new owners. If they see that the club is well run and hasn’t been gung-ho but realise that spending and extra 20 to 30 million a season on top of what Ashley’s spent would be of no benefit to them if they end up ploughing the very same road.

        They just become sitting ducks after a while….before becoming theoretical fish in a barrel if someone like Rafa walks or is sacked…then it’s Ashley part two in different make up.

        The weird part of it all was in how quickly Newcastle fans calm ed down after Shepherd and Douglas Hall slagged the fans off and the women of the city.
        They simply pacified the fans with trophy signings and the vociferous fans became meek lambs.

        The same with Bobby Robson.
        The man had this club into the FA cup final and challenging at the top end of the league for champions league places.
        He gets sacked 4 games into the season because the players and certain fans betrayed him and Shepherd decided to be a weak man and sack him.

        Imagine that?
        Even his wife said something like ” you’ve given them the best of you and they repay you like this. You’re best off out of it if that’s their attitude.”
        After Shepherd and co sacked him like a dog.
        What was Robson guilty of?
        Finishing 5th and 3rd. Just not good enough you see.
        And people think it’ll be different under new owners.
        Not likely it won’t. Probably a lot worse, because the expectation will rise to the rafters just like it did when Ashley first arrived.

        The nature of the beast.

        • Ben Jones

          100% . They seen a billionaire come into the club and thought here we go Chelsea #2 bring on the spending and trophies…..

          ….You mean you’re not going to spend your money on my pipedream? Bad owner bad bad owner

          NEXT!

          • Dillon Tovak

            Pahaha jeeeez

          • Kneebotherm8

            Didn’t understand that but I hope to fck it was derogatory….

          • Dillon Tovak

            Just cracking up and rolling my eyes at this nonsense.
            As if there is no in between from Chelsea or Man City to only allowing loans and strikers like Joselu.

          • Kneebotherm8

            Yeah add BJ to the trolls list……or the singular multiple identity list……..a dckhd one and the same….all their comments are laughable..

          • Ben Jones

            You’ve got nothing pal . Nothing to add . Please do block me , you’re irrelevant :)

          • Kneebotherm8

            Not as irrelevant as you/GR/MM…etc……one and the same buddy..

          • Ben Jones

            I’m very very happy for you to block me and never respond to me again . That’s how irrelevant you are bud . :)

          • Kneebotherm8

            only irrelevant to yous………countable on one hand..

          • Ben Jones

            But its still relevant to me though (that you’re irrelevant) let’s just leave it at that huh :)

          • Kneebotherm8

            My views are very relevant………yours are very much in the vast minority……….ir/relevance is only relative and yours are relatively speaking…….very irrelevant because hardly anybody agrees with you(apart from those in your tiny mind(s)…..know what I mean?…….

          • Ben Jones

            Most people can’t add up the coins in their pockets I’d imagine , sorry if the views of these people mean very little against the views of people with reasoned facts willing to be challenged over them but ultimately are faced with a baying crowd calling names . I’m not interested in that . Feel free to block me and never respond to me again . I think we’ll both be happier that way

          • Dillon Tovak

            90 comments and 10 likes. Does that indicate you’re chatting shyte? Your audience, for the most part, are people who follow the daily goings on of the club over the period of…their whole lives.
            Expecting us to compete with those around us isn’t a bratty pipe dream. It’s the standard for a club in the PL.
            You know that, you just want to argue.

          • Ben Jones

            What you think there are supporters who think we shouldn’t be competing with clubs around us? That’s a strawman . No one said that . I couldn’t care less about likes ? You think I couldn’t rack up likes by just agreeing with ‘the deluded majority’ , likes don’t change my opinion fella I’m not as shallow as you :)

          • Dillon Tovak

            Waaaahahahhaa hello Clarko, strawman! You gave yourself away 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

          • Ben Jones

            Someone else who has had people use strawman against them?

            You’re ridiculous

          • Dillon Tovak

            No one else is that lame. Sorry, you’ve been busted.
            Trying to put me down intellectually is a pitiful response 😂

          • Ben Jones

            Whereas your pathetic response that I’m someone else isn’t pitiful?

            Give me a break . Non of the others are stupid enough to be dragged into this 5h1t like I am

            Just block me , you’re irrelevant < anyone else use that? Just me is it?

            Indeed

          • Dillon Tovak

            Good one 👍 hahaha

          • Ben Jones

            Have a like , I know they mean a lot to ya :)

          • Dillon Tovak

            It’s lucky they don’t to you 😘

          • Jezza

            His views are the views of a troll who is in a bad mood because we stuffed his team on Sunday.

          • Kneebotherm8

            You’re the weirdest individuals….all of yous..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

          • KRS1

            BJ is definitely the latest in a long line of bell ends!

          • Kneebotherm8

            Hahahaha……..quite correct……….the bells..the bells as Quasimodo would say……

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Priceless

          • Jezza

            To be precise the latest in a long line of trolling ID’s of two brothers from Manchester who are in a bad mood because we stuffed their team on Sunday.

          • Dillon Tovak

            Ben Jones is Clarko, see below with his use of strawman. Clarko has said that on many occasions.
            He’s annoyed everyone’s blocked him so come back with a new pseudonym.

          • Jezza

            He’s been doing it for years, marra. He and his brother are constantly coming on here with new ID’s when everybody blocks them. I could list you 20 or 30 differnt ID’s they have used on this forum over the years. I shudder to think how desperately sad and empty their lives must be.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Think about it for a minute. The loans were the best option available. The alternative was to go with the Danish lad who can’t take the pressure if the Dutch league when the spotlight is on.

            The January window was good for us.

          • Danimal

            You conveniently and deliberately ignore the very rational point that there is a massive space “in between” what Man City do and what we currently do. Most NUFC fans want us to be somewhere in that space but Ashley apologists (and Ashley himself on his embarrassing Sky TV propaganda pieces) pretend that we all expect to be like Man City.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            There is a massive space between us and City but that space is filled with the 2nd league of 5 being Man u to Liverpool, then Leicester who had the champions league and title to catapult them on. After that, Everton who beat us to the signature of Tosun, a player who is not as good as Silimani.

            we got Silmani, Kennedy and our superstar keeper in January. The keeper is on an option to buy but we’d not have been able to buy the either Silmani or Kennedy in January. The former would not have joined us and Chelsea are unlikely to sell the latter.

          • KRS1

            You are a massive f#cking tool!

          • Kneebotherm8

            Fckn right there mate

          • Ben Jones

            Whereas you’re completely irrelevant

          • Kneebotherm8

            Was that BJ GR or MM speaking there???……😂😂😂😂😂

          • Ben Jones

            Using emoji’s to somehow give credence to your words . Bless

          • Kneebotherm8

            No credence …….just pssng meesell laughing at you pal(s)

          • Ben Jones

            Ok . Finished now? Zzzz

          • KRS1

            You go off to bed with MM and ghost troll now – sweet dreams you f#cking freak!

          • Kneebotherm8

            Eh?

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Some of these lads make MM, Leazes’ and Jezza appear as the thinking man.

          • Jezza

            Or Clarko, Fleckman, they are all the same and he’s in a bad mood because we stuffed his team on Sunday.

          • Kneebotherm8

            Hahahaha……You can count the multiple IDs on one hand…

          • Cockneytrev

            They’re all one in the same,,
            Trolls!!! Best to block them,,or wind them up,, whoever they are they know nothing about football,,

          • Ben Jones

            Why thank you sir for your reasoned debate . W4nker

          • Geordiegiants

            You got the last bit correct.

        • nufcslf

          Sut up, tit

          • Jezza

            He’s just in a bad mood because we stuffed his team on Sunday ha ha.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          Spot on!

          New owners are motivated by what is possible with the media deals in football. The current owner was motivated by the exposure his company can get in football. I don’t have a problem with any of that as to achieve it, Nufc have to do well.

          We are run as a tight ship at the moment, could we invest more? Perhaps, but what happens if that investment does not pay off? When Rafa starts to acquire a Sels, Games, Lazaar etc what happens to the money lost?

          • Danimal

            I didn’t have a problem with it either as I also thought ‘to achieve it, NUFC have to do well’. That’s the glaring problem – NUFC has not done well.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            The problem being, the owner has to continually bankroll the club to really be up there.

          • 8prestondave

            Up where.? We are nearly at the bottom -Again.!

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            We’re not up there because it would require constant bankrolling.

          • Kneebotherm8

            He bankrolls no one,that’s why we’re not up there…….we’re down here and that’s where we’ll be eternally under his stewardship..

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            You may be right or at least its a long project under his stewardship. He’s not going to bankroll it anymore.

            The point is to get there, you either build slowly like Tottenham with a very good manager (and a bit of luck) or it needs money thrown at it.

        • Danimal

          Been watching the nature channel this morning? Sitting ducks, fish in a barrel, meek lambs, a dog and a beast. Or maybe it was Saturday Kitchen on catch-up. Anyway, this fan has a long enough memory to remember how much better things were under the previous owners.

          • ghostrider

            And so do I. I also remember how much worse it was, as well.
            What you need to remember is, we are in a time where sugar daddies rule the roost and it was all basically started by Jack Walker, who’s million was enough to batter all other football clubs into submission.

            Hall and co came along and tried the same with us.
            The problem was, not only did it give us a feeling of the good times, it was the catalyst for what is now happening at this club.

            A bunch of people who tried to run the club as fans and blew it in short order.
            Enter Mike Ashley who tried to do exactly the same thing, as a sort of wannabe amalgamated fan, who soon realised that being one requires you to bank roll the club on a consistent basis from his own pocket just to give the fans what they require to keep up the earlier spends of the clowns that ran it into the ground and nearly killed it.

            Before that was Gordon Mckeague .
            I’m sure you remember those times.

            As it stands we do require more entertainment and obviously one or two better players each season to add to it, with a manager to ensure it works, which Rafa can do if he sets us up to have a go which he has done of late.
            But…..we are not the club in the throes of death like is being made out and spending 25 to 30 million or more on players will not promise any more than is being delivered…but it potentially could whilst also potentially doing the opposite of what is expected.

            Too many people concentrate far too much of their energy and time in hating Ashley first and seeing what’s going on last of all.
            You’d almost think we had a squad of non-league players that were fighting for their lives due to an owner who just doesn’t care and wants to kill the club because he hates it.

            The same owner who sanctions new contracts for players who actually give a real eff about Newcastle United (Dummett)..

            Trying to marry us up with the Keegan days under Hall is akin to trying to tell us all that we should be competing with Man City, regardless of the denial of it…because that’s what we were for a few years before the sugar daddies saturated the place with all the fluttering money that’s turned football players into girl like prima donnas and spiteful greedy agents being allowed to take clubs for mugs as well as taking advantage of players and coaxing them into the mercenary disloyal gits that many are today…all aided by owners who are rarely at clubs to oversee what the people they leave in charge, spend and give out in wages.

            I’d rather we do it this way and hope to get a few presents at a time and have a go , than be known as plastic fans after a few years of ownership of a spendthrift who then gets the red letter from the bank as well as the plastic cut up and told “NO MORE”.

            Hatred of Ashley won’t gain a few pressies but it won’t stop him seeing this club go to ruin whether we do a yoyo every now and again.

            The very fact that over 50,000 fans go to watch the team is testament to there not being a lot wrong with this club.
            Trust me, if there was then this stadium would drop 10 to 15 thousand in short order.
            Newcastle fans aren’t stupid. They may moan but they can also see that Sunderland and their owners thrifty ways is why they’re sitting where they are with players like Rodwell digging his heels in on a sickening wage.
            Imagine our fans with a few Rodwells on the wage bill and sitting where Sunderland are?

            Trust me, this club is far better off than people think but can do better and will do better under Ashley and maybe also a little bit worse and then better and so on.
            Under new owners……?……hmmmm…toss a coin and pray.

          • Cockneytrev

            Trolll
            You know nothing about foootball,, you Ashley hoop licker,,👅👅

      • Ram Kishore

        Ben most of the points what u were saying are valid and I respect it but fans protest against Ashley only for the mistakes he made in the past..like firing Sam, Kevin Keegan, Chris Houghton, clubs u 24 transfer policy, Gambling on taking risks by not strengthening after 2011-2012 finish… Hiring wrong administration and many more. All these has got nothing to do in fans demanding sugar daddy.His inability to improve the football club in both off field and on field terms..

        Ashley says he had made those mistakes because he didn’t know what he was doing..
        Fans can’t accept his apology

        Reason: if he makes one mistake or two genuine mistake
        Fans can forgive him..

        But consistent mistakes again and again made him a mistake maker.
        So even if he tries to rectify those mistakes and try to do something better for the club fans think of it as his new mistake in making..
        Do you get my point??

        • Ben Jones

          Absolutely . I doubt anyone would argue he hasn’t made mistakes , indeed even he has said so himself , I don’t agree that he’s made mistake after mistake , clearing the debt when he took over(saving 6m + interest – look at sunderlands situation made 100 times worse by having external debt) the 11/12 season , the appointment of Rafa and giving him full control . Let’s be fair unless you’ve ran a football club before then everyone will go in not knowing exactly what to do , financially we are strong , very strong and this will be reflected in future spending .

          I just do not see the bogeyman that others do , 99%+ of owners ultimately want a return on their investment , whether it be yearly salary/dividends or increase in club value on selling , some make money back on the interest charged on loans they make to the club . I’m VERY suspicious of the new owners ultimate desires , why would someone from outside the region want to plough endless cash into something for the good of the fans without a return? What do they have to offer now that we don’t have? More debt? More indebted to one owner? It’s no longer NUFC in that scenario , it’s [enter owners name here] football club .

          • Ram Kishore

            I too don’t see the bogeyman as others do.. But his failures were much more than his positives..
            You can say All started with Keegan’s dismissal..
            Yes he reduced the debt
            Yes for his investment he definitely should or would be getting returns.
            I appreciate him for that..
            2011-12 was a great one.. but he should have understood transfer window by then to back the club to challenge in Europe.
            As for the new owner ownership..
            Yes just like how Ashley bought the club for expansion of his business portfolio.. so will the new ownership..and The new ownership has people from inside the region too.. Ruben brothers..
            All this Ashley hatred wasn’t there after Rafa Got Appointed.. even when got relegated ad even during the championship season there wasn’t none..
            This started only after Rafa’s complains.. why appoint a manager of his calibre and break promises??
            I don’t know what promises were made..
            There must not have been tussle between Ashley and Rafa which reawakened the fan’s hatred for Ashley..

            I don’t hold any grudge or hatred for Ashley.. I’m not too happy or too unhappy under his ownership..
            I can he made the club sustainable without progress..
            Obviously I can say he didn’t deteriorate us to the levels of other bad ownerships

          • Ben Jones

            This started only after Rafa’s complains.. why appoint a manager of his calibre and break promises??
            I don’t know what promises were made..

            ^^^^^

            Quite , does anyone? And who says they’ve been broken? If I told you you can have all the money in my pocket , I’m not lying if there’s little to nothing in there…and even less so if you know full well in advance the situation and you’re not expecting there to be a wad of notes…

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          Firing Fat Sam was a mistake in hindsight but fans were demanding it at the time. Moving Houghton on for a better manager was the correct way forward.

          The clubs youth policy is not much different to any others, in fact it was mimicking Arsenal’s.

          This club and others have hired the wrong staff, are you unhappy with Benitez now?

          • Damon Horner

            Sam was unpopular but would have given us stability so I agree with that. I also agree with the Hughton bit if it wasn’t for the fact he then hired Pardew, just need to see where they are now to know the “better manager” was not based on the individuals but their level of “experience” as managers, I felt after the dressing room going the way it did in 08/09 and how Hughton then steered the promotion he deserved a bit more respect.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Hughton did well in 08/09 but he struggled previously in the premier league and although it’s a results business, our play was attritional rather than ‘flair’ which was fine to get to a relative safe position.

            Pardew had a better reputation in football than Chris at the time, he perhaps still does. Pardew’s recent appointments have been difficult.

          • Damon Horner

            His appointments prior to us were difficult also, funny that.

            Reputation with experience rather than skill was maybe all it was, there is weight to your view that the style of play was a potential factor as well considering Pardew prefers attacking football this had followed Sam’s sacking and then Keegan’s appointment and was followed by appointing McClaren until the appointment of Rafa changed that trend.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            He [Pardew] did very well at Reading and West Ham, not bad at Charlton and well at Southampton.

            Rafa is obviously a class above but at the time, I think most people within football saw the appointment as a step up.

          • Damon Horner

            Reading was progressive, no arguments but how can you say not bad at Charlton? he relegated them, next season finished mid-table, next season he was sacked with them in bottom three again. Southampton were nailed on for promotion despite their 10 point deduction such was their squad strength, he failed to make the playoffs and was surrounded by player/boardroom tensions.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            He went in with a similar amount of games to go that Rafa and IIRC, they were well adrift.

            Southampton were not nailed on for promotion, no team is nailed on after losing 10 points for administration.

          • 8prestondave

            Funny how Fat Sam seems to be unwanted before he goes to a club and more unwanted once he has been there for a while. Wonder if its got anything to do with the turgid football he makes his teams play.? As for stability- see turgid football comment above.

          • Damon Horner

            My first three words say he was unpopular, he is that because of the man he is and the football he plays, i’m with you all the way on that, your comment sounds like I am a fan of his. I didn’t exactly enjoy the days that followed his sacking, in hindsight we’d have not been relegated in my view if he stayed on a bit but yet again nobody had the foresight to know just how screwed up it was going to get.

          • 8prestondave

            Was agreeing with you mate don’t be so sensitive.

          • Damon Horner

            Noted. Sorry mate.
            Too used to the phrasing “funny that…” being a bit sarcastic after a comment had been misinterpreted, perils of occasionally talking to morons!

          • 8prestondave

            Yes mate bet I can guess the 4 people you are on about who are probably 1 and the same.

          • Ram Kishore

            Lol
            I could accept the youth policy though but he continued it despite not bringing the best young talents from PL

            As for sacking Houghton.. Not slagging off Pardew.. but why would he end up appointing a manager who was sacked by Southampton in third tier.

            Benitez was indeed a great appointment..maybe it’s Lee Charnley or Ashley or someother middleman’s great work and we were lucky that he was available and he took up the opportunity..

            If Benitez was having a good relationship with Ashley why would benitez keep complaining about Broken promises..

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            The majority of Southampton fans were dismayed at Pardew’s sacking. In footballing circles, the reason why he was sacked was well known and it wasn’t because Southampton were not doing well.

            The youth set up at NUFc has never been great since Roeder left and tbph, it was awful before Roeder joined.

            I don’t think I claimed Ashley gets on with Benitez, I think he leaves it to Charnley.

          • Ram Kishore

            So why Rafa complains..it keeps me wondering??

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            He’s not quit though has he? What was his last complaint? Can you give me a quote?

            He should have been pretty happy with January, he got three targets in and let’s be honest, the one we supposedly missed on is a bit rubbish.

            Rafa is the most political of managers, that’s the opinion from Jamie Carragher, he deflects blame.

          • Ram Kishore

            Are you deaf to his interviews?..Go and see for yourself the complaints.. it’s pretty much available everywhere.. Rather than telling it in an outspoken manner.. he has shown his displeasure..
            Nikolai was just one target that got leaked.. idk about others.. but Rafa has clearly indicated he’s given a list of multiple options and their prices were cheap if brought in earlier either.permanent or temp according to.Rafa. But I am happy with Ashley regarding this window but just unhappy why he didn’t get them.early… Rafa made this point in his interviews too

            Rafa being political at times ig is better than what happened under pardew and McLaren.. Since most of the signings made under Pardew weren’t his ones.. Few players stood out others didn’t.. I believe this was also why many players got pardewed..

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I listen to his interviews and get his hints. However, we’d not have got islam slimani in early. I think we could have got Kennedy in sooner but he wanted to play for Chelsea in the cup.

          • Ram Kishore

            What’s your point??

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            I think we could have got players in early but we’d not have got the players we got.

      • Ram Kishore

        I’m just having a reasoned debate..😀😀

        • Jezza

          You can’t have a reasoned debate with an obsessive troll who’s only pleasure in life is winding people up from behind his computer screen.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            You can’t debate with anyone, you throw a tantrum if anyone disagrees with you or questions something that you have clearly made up.

      • Ram Kishore

        Because of his inability to run the club.. the fans want him out..
        The fans protest are very genuine one..
        We don’t expect a sugar daddy
        U haven’t replied to my reasoned comments?

        • Ben Jones

          I have , 19 minutes after you posted your response , gimme a chance bud! I’m off to bed soon so it maybe tomorrow I respond if you add any more :)

      • Danimal

        Well if the club has spent what it’s earned, the next question must be why is it earning so little in comparison with Bournemouth, Watford, Stoke, Leicester etc. It’s ok, we had all this last time round when John Hall’s group was suggesting the club could be better. Some people unbelievably said we should know our place and there was no chance of competing with “the big boys”. We should have continued on a shoestring, playing in a semi-roofless hovel, constantly under threat of having our best players poached by more ambitious clubs like Wimbledon and Crystal Palace. Sound familiar? Presumably it’s the same inward looking people who defended the Seymour/McKeag disaster who are now trying to excuse Ashley’s downgrading of the club as something to do with its postcode.

        • Ben Jones

          We were in the championship last season which is why we earned less , I think you’ll find that this season we will be one of , if not THE biggest earners outside the top 6 .

          Fair points on the need to expand under Hall/Shepherd and the benefits from it , given the introduction of all seaters and looking at how other clubs have expanded/build new stadiums I’d imagine it was inevitable it would happen sometime , the fans and share issue mainly paid for it though (season tickets were almost as expensive back then as they are now) remember the 1500? Quid platinum seat things etc.

          If we can’t compete with clubs that are deemed smaller than us without extra funds being pumped in by an owner then there’s something seriously wrong

          There seems to be a theme of owners always getting 5hit doesn’t there? Sounds like a thankless task if you ask me , I’d rather be LESS indebted to an owner then basically have an ‘owner fc’ club loses identity in that case imo , in an ideal world it would be fan owned and ran

        • Jezza

          There is absolutely no doubt that NUFC is now making far more money than ever. The problem is that the club’s owner is pocketing the lot.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            How would he do that? He can withdraw £144m tax free at any time but you seem to think he’s doing some scam akin to one of Viz’s Elton John cons.

            Get real Jezza.

  • nufcslf

    Ex players and anybody with half a football brain should slaughter the fat c**t at every chance with bad publicity. Time for him and anybody that backs him to f**k off a find a new hobby. You are not football supporters in any shape or form. Well done Rob Lee………

    • Kneebotherm8

      Correct buddy..

  • Mxpx

    Rob Lee has hit the nail on the head be nice to hear from some more club legends

    • Ben Jones

      Be even nicer if they put their hands in their own pockets though huh….

      • KRS1

        You needed to reply as Monkseaton Muppet there, used the wrong account. D#ck head!

        • Ben Jones

          You’re a child kidda . Why don’t you have a cry somewhere else . Should be adults only in here

          • KRS1

            Shouldn’t you have moved out of your mum’s house by now then if you are the big man! when you find your views are in line with ghost troll it’s time to have a long hard look at yourself. Ultimately you are defending someone who is a proven liar and an enemy of all true NUFC fans.

          • Ben Jones

            Yes whereas you’ve never lied have you? …..or is it just it’s never been proven .

            Look bud , there’s no point in us corresponding with eachother , let’s just leave it at that huh :)

          • Jezza

            Don’t feed the troll, marra. He’s even more determined to wind up Newcastle fans just now because we stuffed his team on Sunday.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            Ha, it’s the first time you mentioned the football on Sunday, that seemed to shut you up for a day or so.,

      • HarryHype59

        Bobbi….is that you?

        • Ben Jones

          No jezza is that you?

        • Jezza

          It certainly is. He keeps registering new ID’s when everybody blocks his existing ones. What a desperately sad empty life he must have.

          • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

            MMM, it is you. Jezza, I really could not give two hoots if you block me. Some folk on here can discuss things without recourse to making up a fantasy world of fiction. You and Leazes or you and your alter – ego Leazes seem to prefer to lie.

  • Desree

    Reading comments on this thread. This is what I expect from a professional sports club.
    An academy and infrastructure that produces first team players on a regular basis.
    Enough investment in suitably capable/qualified playing and coaching staff that enables the team to compete in competition

    That is all,am I being unreasonable?