I have never written anything for The Mag before (or anywhere else) but I was given the push to do so, after I read a number of comments/articles which mentioned the predicament of Sunderland fans.

Just in case you haven’t heard…

Sunderland fans saw their team relegated in rock bottom place last May (2017), with yet another entry for worst team ever seen in Premier League history.

Moving nine months on and with only 14 games in the second tier to go, the Mackems are 24th of 24 in the Championship.

Along with Burton, the Wearsiders are the odds on favourites to be demoted.

There are also another couple of relevant things to consider…

When Newcastle were relegated in May 2016, Sunderland fans had a field day.

Flying a plane above St James Park, attaching their bed sheets to the Tyne Bridge with an ‘amusing’ message and so on.

They also had torrents of abuse for Rafa Benitez, mocking him for being at fault for the relegation, even though it was pretty much everybody’s fault but the Spaniard’s for the relegation after Mike Ashley left it ridiculously late to sack Steve McClaren.

Newcastle supporters were also, bizarrely, relentlessly ridiculed, for wanting Champions League, double La Liga, double Europa League, winning boss Rafa Benitez to stay on.

Now coming back to the present day and why I was moved to write something for the first time,  have noticed a significant minority of Newcastle fans on The Mag, and elsewhere, saying that Sunderland fans and their club are in such a state that it is now too cruel to keep laughing at them, and we shouldn’t want them to keep on losing week after week.

I have noticed this especially since Newcastle’s win over Manchester United and maybe fans feeling a lot more confident about staying up, that victory having also coincided with Sunderland fans now hitting the very bottom of the Championship.

Well I’m sorry but I think there must be some kind of new contagious disease which is giving Newcastle fans the memory of a goldfish, totally forgetting all the nonsense Sunderland fans have thrown at us, much of it not too long ago.

I think that rather than stopping laughing at Sunderland fans, the lower they go the more we should laugh at them, and louder.

Now I am not somebody who wants to see all Mackems out of work and living on the streets BUT when it comes to football, I want Newcastle to be as high as possible and Sunderland to be as low as they possibly can be.

It is called rivalry and as I said above, it is our duty to want that.

When Sunderland fans were laughing at us and coming up with their feeble attempts at taking the mick, I didn’t have any problem with that. It is expected and part of football is taking that stick, as well as giving it out. Just as it is with winning and losing on the pitch.

I have also heard some other Newcastle supporters urging the rest of us to exercise caution and wait until the end of the season, just in case we go down and the Mackems stay up.

You can stick that where you want. I’ll worry about the end of season when we get there but why on earth would you pass up the chance to be laughing at them when their team is at the very bottom of the Championship and over half the Sunderland fans who were there in the Premier League have turned their backs on the club, manager and players in their time of most need.

Sunderland fans predicted that thousands of Newcastle fans would desert the team on relegation and instead we ended up with more season ticket holders (around 40,000) in the Championship and crowds  increased to an average of over 51,000 – and that was with four more home matches and the inconvenience of more midweek games than in the Premier League.

Maybe in 10 or 20 years time I might think that it is about time Sunderland fans saw their team come back up through the divisions and give us some derby matches once again BUT that time is not now.

Best of luck to Sunderland fans (I work, rest (drink) and play football with plenty of them) as they go about their normal lives but when it comes to football, they can’t fall too low.

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  • Rich Lawson

    Nigel Clough will keep Burton up (again),Chris Coleman (which makes it even funnier)will take Sunderland down,yet walk into another well paid job after.

    • Peaky Magpie

      Coleman will probably go back to the Wales national team once Giggs gets caught banging the players wives….

      • grantham mag

        Pardew did that at Southampton,= the bullet, soon to be repeated at WBA.

        • Peaky Magpie

          Never knew that….philandering little greaseball…

          • Rich Lawson

            You can see why the wags might be interested in Giggs,but Pardew !?

          • Peaky Magpie

            Must be the glasses,intelligent (😂😂😂) and intellectual look ….

  • Coble’s Return

    In the words of BandAid – “Well tonight thank God it’s them instead of you”. I look at what is going on at Monkwearmouth and understand that at many points over the past few years, we could have done exactly the same thing. Mock them if it makes you happy, but I would prefer to retain a bit more dignity.

    • Paul Busby

      Exactly. I dont mind a reasonable level of schadenfreude, but we’re better than they are in every conceivable way, so I prefer to act as such.

    • Jezza

      It’s them instead of us at the minute but 12 months from now we could easily be in exactly the same position they’re in now.

  • Viru leckworth

    I prefer the dignified approach. Sunderland fans have made themselves appear trite by those ill advised banners. Personally I prefer to rise above it.

  • relaxed

    Well Phil do you not think that its a bit pathetic to bring ourselves down to their level ?
    Do you not think that we are bigger than that ?

  • ghostrider

    Bragging rights and rival banter are two ideals for both sets of fans.
    However, there are no bragging rights when there’s no rivalry, football wise.
    The mere fact that hatred of the people of both cities is evident, between certain groups of people from boths sides, seems to cloud something that should never be under a cloud.
    That’s the fact that the north east of England should literally stand as one, because we are thought of as one by the many who are not from the north east…..except ourselves.

    How strange that we have to gloat over the demise of anything, let alone a football club where rivalry and bragging rights in derby games and in general were a major part of the mindset…mainly in good spirits.

    No matter what anyone says, Sunderland have a massive fan base and are a big club….as big as ours.
    There’s no doubt that a proportion of their fans would be of the same mind if we were in their position and in general.
    It’s a two way thing but it’s borne out of ignorance on both parts. Ignorance of how both cities and the north east in general stuck together as one, historically.

    Ok time moves on and attitudes change with the demise of shipbuilding and coal mining and such…but remember one thing…it’s the north east against the rest in reality, because it’s the rest that have us down as the poor relations….as one unit area filled with pockets of what are known as towns to the ignorant.

    Just as in war when you climb out of those trenches..a Geordie, a Mackem, or a Hartlepudlian or a Darlo to the Boro and all in between….the digs and the banter still ensue but nobody should be left to their demise on the same field spilling the same blood in the same mud that the north east has done……as one.

    Living to fight another day in the same field should be the same goal for all and to keep up the good banter and the bragging potentials whilst we all stand as one and shout ” all for one and one for all” in the north east.

    It’s fine for people to think Newcastle United can fly the flag as the only north east club at the top of the hill but it’s not so comfortable to realise that the hill is sat next to southern mountains.

    Their fans don’t deserve what’s happening to them and someone needs to get that club out of trouble, just like someone needs to get Hartlepool United out of trouble.

    Derby days have been a disaster for us just as they have been for them…but we all love those days because the buzz is the potential bragging buzz of each game.
    There’s no bragging rights when there’s no competition in which to claim them.

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      You will find that their fan base has never been as big as ours. Would say there is probably a six or seven thousand gap on average. This has also been evident even at the start of this season. Their cup crowds are always a lot lower and the free tickets run into thousands. However for the one thousand three hundred and fifty eight there on Tuesday at Bolton you have to respect these guys also the twenty six thousand home supporters last Saturday.

      • ghostrider

        There’s a lot to take in about how crowds are attracted and why they disappear, leaving only the die hards.
        Sunderland fell into the trap of trying to buy experience on big wages to hammer their way up the league and ended up being a balancing trap door club for a while.
        We dropped out but when we did we actually made sure we went back up by hook or by crook and done it as champions.
        This is classed as success for us whilst we look at Sunderland balancing on the trap door as season failure, even if they stay up….yet realistically they appeared to have the bragging rights.

        Their fans see their escape as success.
        Fine lines indeed and it’s what garners future hope and generally keeps fans on their seats.

        This time it’s different for them because they are sinking and not doing what their fans actually expected of them, which was to follow our lead and basically storm out of it back into the premier league.

        Escaping relegation for their fans this season would fill their stadium if it’s a scramble.
        If they escape it, it would be a success to them and hope would be restored for next season with the same blind hope that this time it will be different.
        It keeps bums on seats.

        The trouble is they can see no discernable light at the end of the tunnel as of yet and they are suffering.
        It’s down to the utter naivety of the owner and those he employed to oversee it all.
        His intentions were good but good intentions get you no favours.

        We need football club strength in the north east not the demise of it.

      • Wor Lass

        I really disagree with a lot that you say but I do agree that the fans there who keep turning up deserve respect and don`t deserve the plight they`re in.

        • Monkseaton Magpies

          There are people who support Coventry who do not deserve it. They had one of the longest records in the top division along with Arsenal and Everton but where are they now. Ashley is doing his best have been in crowds of seven thousand at home and two hundred away it’s been a long journey. The people who hate Ashley have never lived through the bad days like a four nil defeat at Southend on New Years day These days are like living in a mansion rather than being homeless.

          • GToon

            I disagree. I’ve seen us for nearly fifty years and I’ve seen some horrendous teams but there was always hope. Hope that we could turn things around, win a few games, go on a cup run etc etc. All of those hopes have gradually disappeared under Ashley. It’s been replaced with resignation, acceptance and misery. The day he leaves were having a party!

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            The point people miss on this site is that we have had no bids for the club in eleven years and no one wants to buy us or any other team in the North East. At least Ashley has spent £264m of his own money keeping us a float. What have Shearer and Rob Lee put in who shout their mouths off sweet F.A. You can have your party but it is unlikely that the next person who comes in will do better. When Leciester won the league they could have invested but they sold .

          • Toon Arnie

            £264m ? Does this include the interest free loan to…himself ?
            You probably need to subtract 11 years of free advertising for his tat as well.
            Didn’t Leicester spend the money they generated from sales though ?

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            The loan before that was to Barclays and we paid six to seven million a year in interest payments to them dead money if you like. Because Ashley repaid Barclays he has saved us nearly 3100m in interest payments as we owed money all over the shop on tick. We also have invested the players sales over time in players. Also we have no extra money to buy super stars so where would it come from. Good article in the Chronicle today praising Ashley.

    • Nick from MK

      Nice post – we need to restore the rivalry and preserve our North East teams!

    • NUFCLX

      Stuck together as one historically ? I think u need to re-read your history. The only thing that is historical is the hatred the 2 cities have for each other which goes back hundreds of years, long before there were any derby games.

      • ghostrider

        Football wise we used to have friendlies with Sunderland.
        They even paraded their 1973 cup at St. James’ Park and it was applauded.
        As for history apart from the football, it was never hatred.

        • NUFCLX

          HISTORY
          The hostility between the cities of Newcastle and Sunderland dates back to the English civil war, when Newcastle stayed loyal to the crown and Sunderland joined the Parliamentary rebellion.
          In the 1600s, King Charles I awarded East of England Coal Trade Rights to Newcastle’s merchants, crippling their rivals in Sunderland. When civil war broke out, it was inevitable they would be on opposing sides, culminating in the battle of Boldon Hill. Newcastle lost and the city was colonised by an army from Scotland, which had been supported by troops from Sunderland.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    They are not even worth bothering about but the person who hired them the plane should be put in the nick for inciting violence. Just be thankful that we are not in the financial mess that they are in .Ellis Short is putting in £3m a month just to save the club from bankruptcy there is a possibility he may even put them in administration if they get relegated and lose fifteen points and go straight down again. So those that are so critical of Ashley if it was not for him it could have easily happened to us. Look at how low Leeds fell.

    • justchampion

      Can’t help yourself can you? Give it a rest man because it can still very much happen under him. You really are a tedious plum

    • TheFatController

      Yes, I always find the comforting words for victims of idiots is ‘hey, could be worse, there are bigger idiots out there…’

      I guess in your book, using your logic, Saville let’s lesser life-destroying paedos off the hook?

      Think yourself lucky, eh?

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        The first time we went down Ashley inherited a team full of stars who did not want to know some on a hundred grand a week.
        Yet he backed the club to get them back up as he did the second time. The Mag sinks to lower depths every week very sad people indeed in fact disgusting.

        • GToon

          So who’s fault is it we stand a chance of going down this time? So that would be three times in eleven years. Nearly half of our relegations under one owner, but he isn’t to blame of course. Ashley hasn’t saved us from anything. We could this, we could that…. hey we could have won the league if he’d backed the club when we finished fifth but he didn’t and we nearly went down. Don’t bother with hypothetical statements. The facts are as an owner he is a disaster. He’s even said as much himself.

    • Mike

      aye good old cashley thank goodness for his wonderful generosity ..prat

  • justchampion

    A self satisfied smug chuckle to myself will do me. Anyone who trolls their websites or hires aircraft are no better than they are.

  • Waxi

    With all the laughing at us and Rafa that was short lived I’m sure the great unwashed feel like a right bunch of muppets now. No need for planes banners etc they just look stupid without us even trying to take the rise. We will miss the derby but that is it as they are an embarrassment to football at the moment. Who is laughing now.

    • Kneebotherm8

      There’s one or two,supposed, toon fans on here who blame Benitez for our relegation…….Monkwearmouth Mag and the likes……

  • Waxi

    I looked at a comment from a Brentford fan who said how pathetic they were when the Bees turned them over and that is how low they are at the moment when even Brentford fans pity them. Next season Fleetwood will pity them so the question is how low will they go.

    • grantham mag

      TAXI== to South Shields, what a derby that will be.

      • Mark Potter

        My Mackem family members, yeah I’m embarrassed, stopped going to the SoL and now support South Shields. They say there is much more entertainment.

  • Jezza

    Give it a rest will you. I’m not laighing at anybody and I will never hold it against anybody for supporting their team. I’m sure Sunderland fans are feeling bad enough as it is without Newcastle fans rubbing it in. They’re already being made to pay a hell of a price for the plane and the banner without us gloating at their predicament.

    • paul mclaughlan

      Yeah but it will be a tiny bit funny if they do go down.

    • Kneebotherm8

      I think shooting oneself in the foot is probably an apt description of them.

      • Jezza

        I think their problem was similar to ours. A chronic lack of investment in the transfer market coupled with a chronic lack of ambition. For years Sunderland kept avoiding relegation from the Premiership by the skin of their teeth and each time their fans celebrated as if they had won the Champions League while the club owner and directors gave themselves a pat on the back thinking job “done” and “if it’s not broken don’t fix it”. If you keep going on that way sooner or later your luck is certain to run out.

        • nufcslf

          Too bloody true

    • Mark Potter

      Yeah, you’ll be happier if Newcastle get relegated than if Sunderland do.

    • nufcslf

      Very true. It would be far healthier banter if both clubs got there heads out of their rses and had both teams kicking seven bells out of each other in the top 5 of the prem.

  • Martin Gardner

    Fukin spot on kidda they went on ridiculous with us now its our turn simple as that

  • csh

    Who?

  • Graham Chapman

    Its gotten beyond banter now, it was always fun when we were close to each other table-wise, but what is happening to the Mackems is soul destroying. We have problems of our own that a Man U win won’t paper over (hope I’m wrong), but commenting and posting about Sunderland just makes us as bad as them

    • Jezza

      I agree entirely.

    • Mark Potter

      What? You don’t have a smile as wide as the mouth of the river every time you hear them losing. How sad. You should see someone about that, you’ve seriously lost your gloat response. The best treatment is to see pictures of their largely empty pink seats. F##king hilarious.

      If they go down again, then I’ll do a little jig. It will be up there with their 15 point season, or my all time favourite when their local hero missed a penalty to lose a play off final. Oh how I screamed with delight.

      If they go bankrupt I’ll not stop laughing until 2020.

    • nufcslf

      The derby’s are vital and should never be leagues apart. Very sad and to certain chumps it makes Cashley look not too bad fighting for 17th every f**king season.

  • Brian Standen

    Each to their own but I’m with you!

  • Steve Smith

    Would love to see them drop again, but i don’t obsess over it like they would.

    They’re a tinpot club with pink seats, why would we need to go to any lengths to gloat?

  • Paul Patterson

    Let’s not count our chickens just yet, but I’m gargling-
    ‘Going down, staying up, going down, staying up, Sunderland’s going down and the Mags are staying up, Mags are staying up, Mags are staying up . .’

  • Nick from MK

    First of all I think we would be well advised to keep quiet until our own survival has been secured!
    My own feeling is that a lot of football fans in the region like to see all the North-East teams doing well – provided their own is doing best of all – and that’s where I stand on this.
    I don’t take any pleasure is seeing Sunderland and my other team Hartlepool in such desperate straits. Let’s face it with none of the teams likely to win major honours in the near future surely the best thing is to be playing each other on a regular basis for a bit of local pride?.

    • Jezza

      Excellent comment, I agree with every word. It is in nobody’s interest to see the North East becoming a footballing backwater.

  • Peaky Magpie

    The pure look of hate on his face….the one in the middle who looks as though he’s taking a dump….sorry but I really am laughing at him 😂😂😂😂

    • Kneebotherm8

      They’re his two carers either side of him…….they had him oot for the day….

      • Peaky Magpie

        Bag of cheesy chips then back home to the Hendon towerblocks..

      • Jezza

        Ha ha yes they let him out of Cherry Knowle for the day as we used to say when I was a kid..

    • kingfisher

      Nice one Peaky, he looks like he’s from The League of Gentlemen ! ( is he local ?)
      🐷🐷🐷

      • Peaky Magpie

        🤣😂 You’re right he does…I heard The League of Gentleman was inspired by one or more of them visiting Glossop which is about 21 miles north of where I am…not a bad little town but the traffic is horrendous…the infamous Snake Pass Road ….Manchester to Sheffield…

        • Jezza

          I like Glossop, nice friendly place surrounded by some great mountaineering country. I find the Snake Pass to be a very decent road these days when it’s not clogged with cyclists. Much better way to drive trans Pennine than the M62.

          • Peaky Magpie

            Pretty scenic road but rush hours are hell and as you say the cyclists even in the winter can be a nightmare….The Cat & Fiddle Road from Buxton to Macclesfield now that is a road….dangerous as hell…the speeders especially extremely high powered motor bikes are caught via satellite as it’s all military over there….I’m 6 miles south of Buxton on the Derbyshire/Staffordshire border.

          • GToon

            The Staffordshire Moorlands? Nice round there isn’t it.

          • Peaky Magpie

            Yes it’s really nice,very quiet where I am,slap bang in the middle of a triangle of Buxton,Bakewell & Leek.

        • paul mclaughlan

          Wasn’t it inspired by a town in County Durham? 100% Makem country.

        • GToon

          Isn’t the local shop in Hadfield?

          • Peaky Magpie

            Yeah,just checked out of curiosity,Hadfield is about a mile and a half from Glossop.

        • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

          Sounds like you live near me.

      • Cockneytrev

        😂😂😂😂

    • paul mclaughlan

      Proper rat face.

  • Tweed Mag

    I always looked for the derby games first when the fixtures came out. If we won it was fantasic, if we lost I could not eat my dinner. The Mackems made fools of themselves with the banner, but not all Sunderland fans were in favour. Rivalry and micky-taking is all part of the game, but forget the nastiness. No need for it at all.

  • Dont stop bobbi fleckman

    Taking the mick is a form of flattery, nobody ever wants pity but I genuinely feel for them. The club is in a mess

    • Geordiegiants

      I don’t I feel sorry for them, I feel nothing but happiness as they are the saddest race of people on this planet. I once remember reading on here that one of their fans said they couldn’t care what happens to them as long as Newcastle’s plight was worse.
      🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
      Sad sad inbred bunch of muppets the lot of them.

      • Blackburn1066

        well said mate

  • DC1964

    Those derby defeats seem like a distant memory now!

    • Jezza

      Sadly the last time we beat them is an even more distant memory. We’ve paid a terrible price for that 5-1 result.

      • Jonas

        Yeah but i wouldn’t swap, would you?

      • Blackburn1066

        Not out the woods yet

  • TheFatController

    I don’t think there’s any harm having a quick laugh at their results, League position and empty seats, before moving on to our own survival, having a beer and watching box sets and not giving them another thought til they next play and lose, and we can have a quick laugh….etc

    • Peaky Magpie

      That’ll be against The Smoggies as the weekend then….

  • grantham mag

    And so say all of us…. And so say all of us….for they are efffing shyte ….And so say all of us.

  • Peaky Magpie

    According to reports at Ronnie Ellis Short is prepared to give the club away for nowt as long as the new owner takes on the debts.

    • nufcslf

      Awful and very sad if the case.

      • Peaky Magpie

        The eye opening thing for this for me is how quick this can happen….I think there’s a real possibility they could well go into administration…other clubs need to take notice.

        • nufcslf

          Money is killing the game and it will go full circle and get even some of the big boys eventually. Mean while you do have to wonder how many clubs are on the bubble of going out of business….maybe fat guts is right and 17th is good enough……….NOT……Really does kill all of us that just want to enjoy a game of footy on Saturday, unless the telly says otherwise of course.

  • Dave Pattinson

    Lets all laugh at who? We”ve more class than the Mackems and their silly banner etc, ignore them and maintain a dignified silence whilst at the same time allowing ourselves to feel dead smug and believe in karma.

  • Geordiegiants

    They are a bunch of muppets!

    • Jonas

      Evidenced by one recently saying if they keep sinking they can play Newcastles u23s and go 7 in a row.
      even though they didnt win the last game – what other set of fans would be that wanky.

      we didnt even count during the domination of the fixture prior to their first win at sjp for twelve years or whatever it was

  • Mike

    after 60 years of rivalry i LOVE it!!! selling for 50m bargain ha ha how many are going 20k?

  • Dillon Tovak

    “Well I’m sorry but I think there must be some kind of new contagious disease which is giving Newcastle fans the memory of a goldfish, totally forgetting all the nonsense Sunderland fans have thrown at us, much of it not too long ago.”

    The thing is, it’s water off a ducks back, like a little brother trying to fight you.
    I don’t care either way about them, would be a shame to not have a derby for years though. But it would still be funny to see them relegated.

  • Wor Lass

    Of course it`s great when karma kicks in and muppets of any variety get their come-uppance and it`s also satisfying when the mackems get beaten – especially when we win. In this case, though, I`m with those people who say the NE needs teams in the top level (with us highest, of course). We`re already deemed to be a backwater full of deluded people with totally unrealistic expectations. That will only get worse the lower NE teams sink, in my opinion. What`s more, we aren`t safe ourselves yet so need to concentrate on backing our lads rather than doing theirs down. The derbies are a big miss as well. I also remember the reaction from the ordinary Sunlun fans at the time of the MH17 appeal. It`s nice to shut them up but we don`t want them dead!

  • Jonas

    I think what it is is we just don’t care about them as much as they do us. Through the Keegan years they were a result you heard or didnt and you knew they were making up the numbers in a lower league but that was it. Didn’t know there results, didn’t care.
    but that’s better than the creepies deserve, the ones that don’t support them but hate us that come out the woodwork and celebrate any perceived failure on our part – selling Cole, Keegan going to England, going to do Leeds, finishing 2nd behind Man U twice.

    the point is even so, they generally deserve it, so i think we should stick it to them.

    right now they are again considerably worse than NUFC has ever been.

  • paul mclaughlan

    I keep telling myself I’m cool if Sunlun win each time I check the results and they end up staying in The Championship… but in reality, I’M SO EXCITED TO SEE THE EFFERS DROP. Hehehe. Sad Makem bastards.

  • Stan

    One word LALAS

  • GToon

    I have mixed emotions when it comes to this lot. On the one hand they are our enemy and I can only ever want them to fail. But on the other hand I want us to play them. They have given me the highest high and the lowest low in football. I will never forget traveling back to Nottingham on New Year’s Day listening to us beat them on the radio. I will never forget the look on my sons face as he played in his Sunday game (losing badly) but walking off the pitch with the biggest smile ever after I’d relayed every goal of the 5-1 scoreline to him. I won’t foget nearly passing out on the last seat of our allocation, right next to their fans, at the SOS when Dabizas got the winner. And how I rolled with laughter when my mate recounted the tale of how his mother saw him on News at Ten in the infamous play off pitch invasion. She was less than impressed!
    So I want us to play them and have more of those unparalleled highs.
    In fact I miss the games that much I’m planning on going to watch their game v Derby County at the end of the month. It could prove to be hilarious!

    • Down Under Mag

      I agree, it should be the highlight of every season to go out and beat them. For too long under Pardew we lost face, were ridiculed and now we have no chance to excise revenge. To claim back that “top dog” by actually beating them rather than by default because they tumble down the leagues. I’m all for taking the proverbial as much as anyone, but it is almost to the point of kicking a dead horse or punting a miniature poodle into the river…it’s not even fair anymore. Maybe that’s just me having a conscience lol

      Still totally understand those who want them to tumble out of existence…karma can be a bi*ch and so it has proved after their outpourings when we went down. The worm has turned I believe :)

    • Mirandinha9

      Liked the reference to the 1990s play offs. Similarly, as a 15 year old, I was on the pitch heading towards the Mackems when a Police dog decided to head for me. One last swing on the Gallowgate goal post cross bar and then I was back into the Gallowgate ‘corner’. Thought it was a great laugh, until going into school the next day, when my Headteacher pulled me to one side and told me he had seen me on ‘Sportsnight’ and demanded that I explain my actions. I still laugh at the discussion as at one point the headteacher said I’d brought the school into disrepute! – WTF.

      • GToon

        You did your school proud! You should have told him that. I take it you weren’t wearing your school uniform so what’s the problem. Times have changed now – a teacher at my kids school plays footy for a local team as a semi pro. He’s the captain and a good player. In the derby game against our town my middle child who was at junior school at the time gave the poor bloke torrents of abuse along with other kids from the teachers class. He just looked at them. Our team won and they gave him more abuse at school on the Monday!

      • GToon

        You can see the pitch invasion on YouTube and all of the people saying how awful it was. I know my mate thought it was great. Obviously the score didn’t help though.

  • Awaymag

    Yes

  • shellington

    Still all to play for, I’d hang fire on the gloating just yet as we are still firmly in the clarts. These things have a habit of biting you on the rse as no doubt our banner flying chums are finding out.

    As to where all this is heading I think relegation for Sunderland will be followed by administration, you can’t service hundreds of millions in debt when your playing at home to Gillingham in front of 12 thousand.

  • Andy Mac

    Should we continue laughing ?

    Why the fk shouldnt we ? Is there some sort of UN/EU humanitarian dictate which says we must stop taking the plss when they’re dead and buried ?

    • Albert Stubbins

      Here here.

  • Jimmy_toons

    Is the weirdo in the middle with the freaky…the freakiest face, the Makem who couldn’t make it to the shoot hoose in time? I do prefer them in the same league when we can take points of them, but they are an odious race of grunts.

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    The author of the article himself alludes to Sunderland fans coming up to take the mickey when Newcastle have had their own misfortunes.
    Well there is this little thing called “Karma” that has a habit of coming back to bite you when you are quick to gloat.
    Those Sunderland fans who were there to stick the boot into Newcastle when they got relegated are now finding out.
    So that gives you the answer and all you need to know so think on before you stick the boot into the fans of other clubs, Even if they are your biggest rival !

    The state Sunderland are in at this present time can happen to any club and you only have to look at the amount of big name casualties who have fallen foul and ended up in at least the third tier.
    It is easily done so my personal view on revelling in others downfalls is don’t do it, End of story !
    If Newcastle United were in a similar state and we could just end up the same way under crazy Ashley, We would be mortified to say the least.

    Personally, I want to see the Derby games so a viable and healthy Sunderland Football Club is a must imo.
    I know it will not be popular with most on here but I don’t care because what matters is the health of sport and general well being of The North East at large.
    If the “Big Three” in the area are doing well then it benefits us as a region and brings business to our area.
    People are stupid if they cannot see this and instead revert to petty parochial pursuits.
    Yes have a rivalry and rib each other the run up to Derby games etc, But revelling in the demise of said clubs is ridiculous and two bob in the extreme.

  • gallowgate26

    When we were relegated though it was like them laughing at a big brother that had fallen over. When they were relegated it was like laughing at a dwarf or something. Not politically correct, not that I care about PC but it was not tasteful shall we say. Now they look to be on their way to League 1, you have a choice, either sympathies or laughter. It’s interesting though how a lot of the airplane banner squad are now shopping with the wife on a Saturday, or winding their necks in, playing the hard done by card. I agree with you on that front, they were giving it big ones, two years ago, and still would be. Hello, we won’t forget you…. After the astonishing derby results (it has to be said as they are ____ and couldn’t beat anyone else at the time) they are now winding necks in and playing the poor little club card again. Awww

  • gallowgate26

    To the author of this article… (I was one who bought a half ST in the championship and renewed this year) It was largely down to Benitez staying that so many match day fans kept going. We now know BTW that Benitez approached NUFC for work and it was NOT Charley or Ashley. Rafa was interested in the project. All I can say is, Ashley is one lucky, lucky man. It is by accident not design, where we are. Ashely is as clueless as Ellis Short…

    • Albert Stubbins

      No because we’ve had some real belters in souness and dalglish haven’t we? Utter nonsense. We averaged 47000 under Houghton and he’s not exactly a world renowned manager is he? Thank Rafa? No I’d rather thank the fans!!

  • Mrkgw

    The lower they fall, the harder it will ever be to reach top flight football again because of the inordinate of cash flying around by TV companies. Top clubs get stronger, those beneath just become weaker and weaker. Look at Coventry City as a prime example. Of course, there are plenty of others. On evidence of this season, land of the pink seats is doomed.

  • Albert Stubbins

    I agree wholeheartedly!! I’ll give you a little insight into the mind of the average makem when it comes to us. When we went down at their expense a couple of seasons ago a makem at work came over and showed some genuine concern at our plight. I was sceptical about how genuine he was being but gave him the benefit of the doubt. Then I saw the b****** jumping about sing Ftmags a couple of minutes later and telling everyone that he hoped that we’d go out of existence. That sums them up for me. Disingenuous shytebags!! Don’t give them any sympathy as they wouldn’t give us any not a chance.

  • stevetoontoon

    If the shoe was on other foot we would have had 3 or 4 airplanes ower st james by now. So NO sympathy here. Haha pounderland your not singing anymore