Michael Owen is annoying enough at the best of times…

However, this time it is as though he has made an extra effort to annoy on this occasion.

Looking at the Newcastle United v Manchester United match this coming Sunday, he points out that Jose Mourinho has never won a Premier League match at St James Park.

Which is a fair point. The ‘Special One’ having made six visits with Chelsea, losing three, drawing three, and winning none.

To level up that stat though, Michael Owen also points out that Man Utd have won more Premier League matches at St James Park than at any other club, 12 in total.

I don’t even mind Michael Owen predicting that Mourinho’s team are going to win this one, after all he predicts defeat for Newcastle United pretty much every week.

However, I do draw the line at him repeatedly using the term ‘United’, especially when he talks about the fact he was at both ‘Uniteds’ in his playing career.

If he learned anything when picking up four years of massive wages at St James Park and giving next to nothing back, it should at least have been the fact that we, Newcastle United, are United. Yes there are others and we don’t mind others also being called it, but it really is taking the…Michael, when using it for the Mancs when they are playing us.

As we all know, Newcastle United has been our name since 1892, whilst it was only in the 20th century (1902) when Manchester United were given their ‘United’.

I honestly can’t stand the money grabbing little…so and so, who couldn’t wait to get out of St James Park after he’d hardly lifted a foot to try and prevent relegation in 2008/09.

As for Sunday’s game, it will be really tough, and Man Utd winning six of their last seven games without conceding a goal (the exception was losing 2-0 at Spurs) shows the scale of the task.

Whoever manages the Old Trafford outfit tends to always put out their strongest team against Newcastle and I can’t see that changing this weekend, especially with them not playing until the following weekend afterwards.

Michael Owen speaking to BetVictor:

Can Newcastle ‘United’ get anything? Well, you have to think that the team will have to be near their best and also for Slimani to come in on his debut and along with Kenedy, give NUFC some extra cutting edge.

“Newcastle United v Manchester United

“Two of my former clubs go head-to-head and I feel United will take the points at a ground where they have won more away PL games (12) than at any other club.

“The Magpies are without a win in their last eight PL home games but, surprisingly, Jose Mourinho has never won a league game at St James Park in six previous attempts.

“Paul Pogba was left out of the United side against Huddersfield at Old Trafford last weekend but I expect the Frenchman to be back in the starting XI and a winning side at the weekend.

“Tip: United to win at 4/6.”

Newcastle United v Manchester United Match Betting:

Newcastle win 5/1Draw 14/5Man Utd win 4/6

Slimani to score first goal 9/1NUFC to win 3-1 60/13 or more match goals in first half 6/1

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  • John

    Shut up you goon when anyone says United you think of Man Utd.

    • GToon

      You are quite right. Sort of. Whenever anybody says United to refer to Man Utd I do think “goon” or words to that effect.

  • Rich Lawson

    Total parasite,he made enough money just out of
    (not) playing for us to retire quite comfortably.There’s racing all year round,f##k off and watch that with your BetVictor complimentary account.

  • Guest 2

    Owen ‘going too far’ is unfortunately a thing he never managed to do at this club!

  • Phil Yare

    mind, i love shearer but he does this as well, and it totally annoys me. even scunthorpe have got as much right to be referred to as united than manure

    i think we should start a petition to get it banned

    • Phil Yare

      and maybe a petition to ban owen, from everything foota related

    • Jezza

      While it grates to hear Shearer calling another team United, I think he has got little choice in the matter. It is almost certainly a requirement of his job as a pundit for the Manchester FC loving BBC.

      • Leazes.

        Well no he has got a choice, he’s not totally gagged, he just goes with the flow of others without a thought.

      • Phil Yare

        did you hear the bristol city man city one the other day jezza? they said ‘ok bristol city v manchester city…predictions?’ the pundit said ‘i think city will win’

        • Jezza

          Well United certainly won yesterday. Get in.

  • Rich Lawson

    They can be Utd in their own city,but elsewhere don’t most non media folk call them Man U ?

  • Gallowgate Dave

    Michael Owen – worst captain in our history. And we’ve had the mute Colocinni as a captain!

  • Danimal

    Rather ambiguous the way he has put it. Right underneath a headline referring to both teams as ‘United’. At least he’ll be right unless it’s a draw – a 2 out of 3 chance, a fair bit better than his appearances to fixtures ratio.

  • thewildchimp

    What a rooster…

  • Jimmy_toons

    It is annoying when the so called national pundits and experts, like Chappers and Savage, Owen and even Shearer refer to ManU as United. They’re actually based in Trafford and not Manchester, and changed their name after Man City changed from Ardwick FC a few years earlier, but were not formed between a unification of 2 clubs unlike proper United’s like Sheffield and Newcastle.
    It’s more annoying hearing our own fans referring to them as United. Suppose it’s part of Sky generation armchair fans brigade, if they’re brainwashed enough, they use it themselves.
    As the song goes…
    ‘Oh there’s only one United and we’re gonna win Foot Ball. Newcastle, Newcastle….”.

    • Leazes.

      Spot on

    • Ben Jones

      It’s illogical as far as I’m concerned , how can Manchester BE United if they have a huge rival? Surely the only United can come from an area of a single team dominance , hence we’re ‘united’

  • Anita kick up the Hoop

    Shearer does the same … Owen gets a bad rap here.. he had awful luck with injuries.. one picked up away at Spurs when he went in bravely with the keeper and the major one for England … he then had to play under Allerdyce and his terrible hoof ball negativity that passed for football … he was absolutely outstanding for Keegan .. genuine quality in everything he did … I think he gave up after Ashley dismantled the the club with Wise and Kinnear .. who can blame him for that? He came from Madrid being promised an ambitious club and ended up scratching about the bottom of the premiership at a club ran by a idiot … id have loved to see him play longer in a Keegan team .. we could have gone places.

    • Jimmy_toons

      It did look like he didn’t give a tross many times when he was here but agree with your points, and we certainly could’ve done someone with his ability to put the ball in the net over the last 5 months. Considering how badly we think of him, in a struggling team, his record for us was very good, a goal every other game or thereabouts I think.

  • Sumit Sengupta

    So the word ‘United’, annoys you when used by other clubs… then you must be having a a very annoying life because there are so many ‘uniteds’ out there. Owen is not a great pundit but you are not a great writer either. Find some proper topic to write about. And please don’t use intriguing headlines to grab attention only to be let dowwn by the content.

    • Leazes.

      No its the arrogance of the ownership of our name… when you don’t own it

      • Toon

        Get a life

        • Leazes.

          What do you disagree with?

  • wheyayeman

    True that is a bit annoying but not nearly as annoying as the ultimate focus of so many of your articles – Tax dodging parasites Bet Victor

  • ghostrider

    If anything the word united does Manchester united more of a disservice than actually anything to the positive.
    Same as city for Manchester city.
    It means nothing.
    It doesn’t give those teams any stand out merit.

    “Ohhhh, united are playing Newcastle.”…..” ohhhh, city are playing Newcastle.”

    It’s meaningless and I’d be miffed if I was a Man utd fan or a Man city fan at being called united or city.

    I’d rather we were called Newcastle united or just simply, Newcastle and have meaning any day than someone calling us united with no identity.

    • Dillon Tovak

      It’s true, if someone tells me they’re watching City then I assume they’re going to Ashton gate (cos of where I’m from, not because I’m a hipster).

  • John

    Google “United” and see who comes up.

    • wheyayeman

      The team you actually support?

      • Jezza

        Spot on.

    • Tino o

      Google why do people google the most ridiculous things? And see what comes up don’t forget to tell me

  • Tino o

    Gone a step too far by referring Man U as united come on really?? Said it on purpose to get at us?? Laughable article!

    • Leazes.

      Its not a step too far, we’ve had the insult for 40 years and should be used to it.

      • Tino o

        Hopefully you’ll get over it don’t let it grind you down

        • Leazes.

          I’ve come to the conclusion that it only rankles genuine Geordie fans not day trippers from Ashington and Hetton.

          • Tino o

            Shouldn’t let things get to you rise above it

  • Wor Lass

    It`s all a bit laughable, really. Using “United” on it`s own in this context is just poor writing. Generally speaking, people will assume “United” to be ManUre because they are so successful and famous. That`s just a fact of life – even if it`s a bit galling. Going on about it so much reveals a certain amount of insecurity and a refusal to accept the reality that to other people around the British Isles we have never been simply “United” whereas ManUre have. Indeed, how many times would you expect dad to tell his kids that they`re “Gannin` to watch United” – surely it would be the Toon? Much better and completely unique. “Uniteds” are 10-a-penny but there`s only one Toon!

    • Leazes.

      No you are wrong United were just United, the other United were United because they had a rival in the television era. It is adapted to simply United for them alone and for a television audience, they never did it for West Ham.

      I grew up at a time when we were just United and the Midland club had a full title until marketing came along and the decided that their stadium would be the ‘self proclaimed Theatre of Dreams’.

      We are United.

      TV pundits use the personalisation of the Salford club as a sleight to others. there is and was bias within the media industry which is exploited.

      • Wor Lass

        We are and I grew up in those days as well but we`re the Toon now to everyone. It doesn`t upset Grimsby supporters.

        • Leazes.

          The ‘toon’ came about 1989-90 I think, we’d been United for a hundred years, the back pages of the local papers only ever referred to us as United.

          Toon isn’t the pronunciation except here or Scotland. ‘blue toon’ Peterhead I think.

          • Jezza

            You could be right. I grew up a few miles South of the Tyne and generally tended to refer to the team as Newcastle rather than United. There were a lot of Sunderland supporters round our way too and it was common practice to refer to which ever team you supported by the name of the city rather than any nickname or abreviated form of the club’s name.

          • Leazes.

            You see if you live in Newcastle, you don’t say ‘I’m going to see Newcastle’… that is the answer isn’t it? To me we are always United nothing else…. it was the chant I grew up with.

            To people like HetonMag and the Lee Brothers (Peterlee I think) its Newcastle!

            We are a regional club

          • Wor Lass

            Do you think that`s still the case nowadays? Obviously, locals aren`t going to say Newcastle, but do you think more nowadays more might just say “the Toon”?

          • Leazes.

            No doubting ‘Toon’ took on during the Hall revolution…. Viva la difference, we always liked to proclaim our ‘Geordieness’…. always did.

          • Wor Lass

            I don`t disagree that we ARE United and yes, of course we should keep that tradition. My original point was more to do with how we`re perceived elsewhere. I don`t think any team was ever called just United by anyone other than their own fans until the Fergie years and also the rise of Man City and Sky TV, as you say. Before that, they were Man U if a shortened form was used. But, unless my memory is playing tricks, we`ve always also referred to ourselves as the Toon. Not the Toon Army and not in terrace chants until much later, maybe, but “Howay the Toon” would be as likely a call as “Howay United” for many years – and probably more likely nowadays. I could be wrong on that – I`ve lived away for a number of years so maybe I`ve been corrupted by the southern domiated media and the Sky mob – but it`s my perception. The thing is that things change and I don`t see that people referring to Man U as “United” is such a big deal to get het up about. After all, we`ve all got used to calling flutterbys butterflys now.

          • Leazes.

            As I said its about distances and the distance in particular that TV pundits give to the Salford club, almost cosying-up, If I were to call everyone by their first name and then call one person by their last it emanates of partisanship, taking sides.

            When United play against them there is no reason to use the term United but they will.

            MOTD and the Evening Chronicle are both produced in Salford. It is an important part of our History, I remember being given a book on my birthday and I read it without putting it down…. by Paul Joannou….

            …..United: The first 100 years.

    • Jezza

      I disagree entirely. NUFC have always been United. The chants of United could always be heard ringing out from the St James’s Park terraces throughout the 70’s and 80’s. The local press always used to use United in their headlines and I can tell you it was quite common for Newcastle fans to refer to the team as United. The word “Toon” to describe Newcastle United did not come into useage till the 1990’s. As far as I am concerned there is only one United and it is most definitely not Manchester FC.

      • Toon

        Believe it or not the Manchester papers refer to Man United as “United” and Man Utd fans sing about “United”, City – City, Rangers – Rangers, its pretty common in all clubs, hardly worth getting upset over

        • Leazes.

          Nobody doubts it…. but the Manchester Club is in Salford like it’s Newspaper and ours.

      • Wor Lass

        I`m not sure about the 90`s, Jezza. The Toon Army, yes, but the Toon always seems to have been an alternative to me. I could be suffering from early onset, of course, but I can`t really remember that term “starting” – it`s always been around, hasn`t it?

        • Jezza

          The term The Toon used to refer to Newcastle city centre I believe but I never heard the football team being called The Toon till the early 90’s and at that time I hadn’t missed a single match home or away for years so I can’t think I could missed it coming into use before then. While we’re at it I had never heard the word Mackem till 1988 and I grew up in a place where there were as many Sunderland supporters as Newcastle. Funny how these new terms can suddenly come along and become established so quickly.

          • Leazes.

            ‘Mackem’ from 1978 it’s an abridged version of ‘Mac-n-tac’
            ….again mid 70s. Make and take, We make em and they ‘take em.

            Invented on Tyneside as an insult to Wearside shipyard workers who got the shipping finishing contracts by undercutting the Tyne yards: meaning ‘thieves’.

            It had the wonderful effect of making people from County Durham take sides essentially to our benefit, even the likes of Crook born Bobby Robson considered himself Geordie.

          • Colin Brumwell

            Bollox

          • Leazes.

            Read it again baldy.

          • Colin Brumwell

            Then you guessed wrong divvy, lived here since 1949 , used to drink in the Novocastria actually lame brain!,and Mackems has nowt to do with ships being stolen and just the way AKE is pronounced on Wearside ,there satisfied ???

          • Leazes.

            Some people are averse to education and some just ignorant you fit into both sectors of the venn diagram entitled ‘spot the bonehead’.

          • Colin Brumwell

            There might be less on it but theres more in it, theres mair sense in a heed of lettuce than yours

          • Leazes.

            That’s a matter of opinion, and its wrong.

          • Jezza

            Yes I understand where the term comes from but I would be very surprised if it goes back to the 70’s. I spent the entire decade of the 1970’s living three miles from Sunderland and was going to Newcastle games from 74 onwards. I spent a lot of my childhood in the city of Sunderland and also mixed regularly with Geordies at St James’s Park. I grew up among both Newcastle and Sunderland supporters in my home town and the rivalry was intense with every insult under the sun used by both sets of fans. Now coming from that background I can categorically say without any shadow of a doubt that I had never heard the term “Mackem” till 1988.

          • Leazes.

            Definitely 1978 was earliest, because the transition was really quick from Mak-n-tak, it hardly had time to catch on…. which I heard just after the 76 cup final, so I’m sticking to 78.

            The definitive adjudication tough has to be proof….is the written word which maybe was later.

          • Jezza

            I can only go on my personal experience. It may be possible as you say that the term was used in Tyneside shipyards as early as 78 but it was certainly never used in a football context till a decade later. I left the North East in 1983 so for all I know the word may have entered useage at street level before 88 but I was still going to every Newcastle game home and away despite being in exile and never heard the word till one of the last matches of the 87/88 season.

            As for the origins of the word, the lad I first heard using it in the Crazy Corner gave me an explanation that exactly matched the one you have given on this discussion.

          • Old codger

            My memory is of a old Geordie sergeant telling a new lad in the troop, who came from Seaham

            “Do not refer to yourself as a Geordie. You are a mackem

            the year was 1979

            Up till then I had never heard of the word

  • Hughie_Gallacher

    Why don’t the media just use the term ‘scummers’? Everyone would know who they were talking about then.

  • Toon

    If people in media referring to Man United as “United” genuinely upsets you then you need to get a grip, serious chips on shoulders. Granted, its lazy to refer to Man Utd as this but people refer to the Manchester clubs as City and United, its very common not just in the media. I wonder if fans of Coventry or Scunthorpe have message boards with fans crying about it, probably not.

    • Leazes.

      Nobody is ‘crying about it’….. we’re just going to take our name back!

    • Jezza

      I can tell you for certain that Scunthorpe fans most definitely do get upset about it.

  • pedrodelgardo

    “The Lads” in my house.

    • Leazes.

      We are United.

  • Steve

    The deliberate cutting out of the last part of the comment “at a ground where they have won more away PL games (12) than at any other club.” is the giveaway as to the United he is talking about. Pointless article intended to stir hatred. We all know he’s a **** head.

  • Jonas

    Never bothers me. Man United are ‘United’ to diversify from Man City, the next most referred to’United’ is Sheffield for the same reason.

    • Leazes.

      No….. we are United…. the banner is correct.