It isn’t just Mike Ashley and Amanda Staveley who are engaged in a desperate battle of wills.

The newspapers and wider media are also desperately competing with each other when it comes to exclusives.

It would be quite entertaining to watch if this wasn’t our football club at the heart of all the conflict.

Sky Sports are as always Mike Ashley’s preferred first choice to get his message out.

Whilst Amanda Staveley has obviously realised/being pointed towards the fact that George Caulkin of The Times is for many fans the most credible medium for what is, or isn’t, happening at Newcastle United.

As for the media overall, they are all obviously open to a good story/exclusive, whichever side it happens to come from.

Luke Edwards and The Telegraph have been offered one on a plate on Friday morning.

He indicates that he has been briefed by the Mike Ashley side of things and that an offer of £300m, without conditions/clauses attached, would tempt him and the club set to be sold at last.

However, Edwards says that ‘the Ashley camp do not expect any progress to be made on the takeover’ and that the Amanda Staveley interview with The Times was simply a ‘face-saving exercise’.

He further goes on to say that the Mike Ashley camp think that only once Premier League safety is achieved (if indeed it is), is there any possibility of a new offer.

The Times interview outlined that three bids had been made in November, the final one being £250m with no clauses, apart from Rafa staying on as manager.

The previous two offers had offered at least £300m but only if relegation was avoided this season.

The Telegraph say that Amanda Staveley’s people have been claiming that the asking price is £300m but that the Mike Ashley minions have claimed it is £300m – but only if a guaranteed lump sum.

For my money…we return to the question of timing, in terms of when Mike Ashley put the club up for sale.

If he was serious about this being as painless a process as possible with the best chance of success, then surely the for sale signs should have gone straight up back in April, nine months ago, when victory over Preston guaranteed Newcastle were promoted.

You can only presume as well that Mike Ashley knew all along that he was never going to properly back Rafa Benitez (though not informing the manager of that fact) in the summer transfer market, meaning Newcastle would be guaranteed a fight against relegation.

Many journalists and fans are comparing it to you buying or selling a house, saying well if £300m is the price Mike Ashley wants, then that is what Amanda Staveley (or whoever) simply has to pay – if she and her backers want Newcastle United.

The house comparison is ok up to a point but it is like being expected to pay full price for a house before you find out whether the authorities are going to give permission for an abattoir or open cast mining to get the go ahead next door.

The fear for Newcastle fans is ironically not so much relegation (after two already and two near misses in only eight Premier League seasons under Ashley we are used to it), it is more the worry that if Rafa keeps the team up, then Mike Ashley won’t want £300m anymore, he will keep raising the price beyond what anybody else values it at.



  • anyobrien

    Here we go again

  • steveS100

    This response does seem to give lie to the claim that negotiations are over but rather that it’s just another strategy by Mr Ashley to manoeuvre Staveley in to making him the bid he wants.

  • anyobrien

    How hard is it… From the start” pay this or [email protected] off “

  • Mike

    Mr Cashley wots the club worth if we go down and Rafa bails out?

  • Barrack Road

    If we get relegated Rafa will go & the club will be worth a fraction of what Ashley wants & there will be no Premier League cash to line his pocket so he should take whats on offer as no other bidders are jumping up & down wanting to take over the club at this moment in time.

  • Rich Lawson

    The house comparison is good,but watch out for those wet patches in the corners (of Ashley’s pants or a fireplace) and get a good surveyor in to value it first and point out the defects in the structure.

  • hetonmag

    Fat lad get some advice off Randy Lerner.

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      He`s not bothered, sooner or later it will sink in even with the thickest people. £300m. or you don`t get the club

      • hetonmag

        Would you pay over the odds for a house that needed underpinning.

        • MichaelMaximusMoose

          now how do you know it`s value ??
          HE WANTS £300m, END OF STORY

          • hetonmag

            Now I might be a bit thick soldier, how do I know what ?

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            IDIOT, Soldier my a$$

          • hetonmag

            Dummy can you not have s conversation without being abusive oh I forgot I’m a Mackem and a Glory Hunter.

          • MichaelMaximusMoose

            you`re as thick as the [email protected]@king schitt hole you live in
            no p1$$ off you A $$hole

          • hetonmag

            Ignorant get and it’s now not no soldier.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    I have said for the last two months that the price is £300m it’s not rocket science. Add the price he paid for the club his interest free loan and a few extras in a sale and it was always going to be £300m. As some people correctly say this price might go up when the new T.V. deal is announced so it’s her call or any other bidder £300m with no clauses in it now or the price may rise.

    • hetonmag

      It will go down if we get relegated.

    • FatParosite

      Shut up Keith.

      • Leazes.

        I didn’t know Kevin had a brother called Keith…. he’s got one called David….. who is a girl sometimes.

    • Guest 2

      Ah well, if you say so it must be a realistic price.

      No value added in any area of the club. Higher levels of debt than when he arrived. Lesser value playing squad. Assets removed for his own financial benefit.

      Sure, just throw him a profit he doesn’t deserve nor has earned.

    • TheFatController

      He says ‘we have no money for transfers’ – so that means we have no equity to raise cash against.

      Which means he values it at £260m. If he said we had no cash, but a lot of equity, then yes, it’s be valued at more, but he hasn’t, so it isn’t…

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        i dont know why you lot bother, he wants £300m end of story

        • TheFatController

          Agreed, but I bother to show that even he doesn’t value it at £300m, proved when he said on tv ‘there is no money’.

          We do, we have equity. He should be honest and say, ‘I value it at £300m because I want £40m for myself, but it’s not worth that otherwise I’d be lying when I say there is no money in the club, because there is, in equity..’

  • David Icke

    More press speculation. Until a named person/the club can be credited as a source for this statement, it means nothing.
    Why cant they just shut the fluck up, instead of this press circus causing unrest/distress amongst the fans. (or is that the idea?)

    • Dillon Tovak

      Mike Ashley is a blood sucking Lizard wouldn’t you agree Dave?
      He’s also a shape shifter, fatter everyday.

  • Peaky Magpie

    Noli pati a scelestis opprimi

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      with chips

    • Soldier

      you need to get out more peaky

      • Peaky Magpie

        The boredom of this whole charade is both tiresome & soul destroying Soldier,I’m just gonna do what I did when I was younger and just concentrate on what goes on on the pitch and ignore the politics of what goes on off it,there’s bugga all we can do to change it.

        • Soldier

          this lark will do your head in

    • Coble’s Return

      That’s not Vindolanda on your profile picture is it?

      • Peaky Magpie

        😂😂😂 No but I see what you mean.Castleton in The Peak District near where I live.

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    If Amazon enter the race next month they can blow Sky & BT out of the water,
    add to that the new overseas right are rumoured to double.
    we may never get rid of the Fat Lad

    • TheFatController

      On the flip side a higher annual revenue and safe in the PL this summer will bring investors to the table.

      Over to you Rafa…

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        I won`t be putting money on that

    • HarryHype59

      That won’t matter diddley squat if the club is back in the Championship!

      Our rivals are strengthening whilst our billionaire owner refuses to even sanction loan signings!

  • David Dickinson

    £300m is a little steep, Its only worth £250m to me, can we meet in the middle and call it a deal?

    • Dillon Tovak

      Our club may be an antique but I’m not sure of your qualifications valuing football clubs Mr Dickinson.

  • Noel Edmunds

    Mike Ashley, You have the chance of taking £250m and walking away, or do you want to risk loosing it all by opening another box and going for the £300m.
    Mike Ashley the offer for your club is £250M Deal or no deal?

    • Mark Potter

      The last offer was £350m, but only £150m upfront. The rest paid in £50m instalments over four years.

      But the box is long gone, one of Staveley’s major investors – the Reben Brothers – pulled out before Christmas.

  • Soldier

    He`s not a football man, he`s a business man he just didn`t pull the £300m figure out of a hat. he has an army of accounts & lawyers to do that for him.
    one thing is certain he won`t sell for what Stavely`s offering and she can tell the press & the fans till she`s blue in the face her offer is still on the table, it certainly isn`t on Ashley`s table

    • TheFatController

      Maybe he does know it’s value but that means he lies when he says, in an interview on tv, he and the club have no money to invest?

      So, at £300m we have no money? He only spent £130m buying it, has put in £120m in loans, taken some out. How does that leave ‘no money’?

      What? No cash? No future revenue to loan against? No equity to loan against?

      You can’t have it both ways. Either it’s worth only £260m or we can raise cash for transfers. He thinks we all can’t do maths ….

      • Soldier

        I`m no account so i haven`t a clue what it`s worth, what i have read he initially wanted 350 to 380 million if that`s the case then he has compromised at a figure of £300m. in other words he won`t go lower & he`s made that clear in the last couple of days

        • TheFatController

          Then spend the equity (£40m) on the players to keep us up.

          I agree with your point that he has come down to £300m, but that’s still too high, if it wasn’t he’d spend money on players using that equity so he could guarantee £300m.

          Every day he doesn’t spend equity on players proves he’s either gambling stupidly or he knows, just like PCP do, being worth only £250m, there is no equity to convert to cash to spend on players.

          He’s telling us it’s only worth £250m, therefore, by his lack of action in the transfer market.

          • TheNutJob

            He`s telling all and sundry he wants £300m don`t matter what you, me, the blonde or uncle tom cobley says

          • TheFatController

            That’s fine but don’t lie to fans that we have no money, can’t compete etc.

            We just won’t spend to protect the profit/loss of any future sale…gambling that we’ll stay up with a basic squad.

        • Dillon Tovak

          Wait! You’re not an account?

    • Toontone100

      It certainly is on Ashleys Table – he just doesn’t like it…. this will be sorted after the relegation issue has been resolved

      • Soldier

        wake up mate, he doesn`t want to know at that price, so the bid is dead !

        • Toontone100

          He doesn’t at the moment … why would anyone want to pay over the odds just because Ashley wants more ? Its not dead – its parked.

          • Mark Potter

            It’s dead because one of her investors – the Reuben Brothers – pulled out. Even before that it was clear they had problems. The bid that was made for £350m included £200m paid in £50m instalments over four years. So they were only going to put £150m upfront from their own money, then pay Ashley half of the tv money every year. There is no way these people ever had the wealth to both buy the club and carry out the level of investment in players that most fans seem to expect. That £350m deal could have crippled the club for the next four years, and if relegation occurred would bankrupt it. Which was why the so-called “investors” wanted to cover their a5r5es with relegation clauses.

          • HarryHype59

            So basically, no serious buyers have emerged in all the years Ashley has had us up for sale?

            That is depressing!

    • Mitros gotta start

      All thats on fatty’s table is beer, curry and a naked dennis wise on all fours with an apple in his mouth

  • Coble’s Return

    As tedious as the “how much is it actually worth” argument is, it is surely reasonable to assume that PCP’s due diligence process arrived at a figure which values the capital assets (including the squad etc.) and the earning potential of the club. Any more that this figure is goodwill and you would have thought that any serious bid from PCP would include an element of goodwill. The problem, as exhaustively detailed below and in countless other threads is that Ashley wants more goodwill than PCP is prepared to pay – to bury the house purchase analogy, what he wants is the value of the mansion down the road and not the house he is actually trying to sell.

    • robbersdog

      The value of a football club is very difficult to define in comparison with other kinds of business. There are many intangibles, eg, the history, tradition, standing throughout the world, support base, potential etc.

      Basically, a top-flight club like Newcastle is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it, and if we stay up this season, I don’t doubt that someone will pay the £300m that Ashley is apparently seeking.

      • Coble’s Return

        I don’t disagree – there are many variables which are almost impossible to put a price on, but if anything, that just makes the asking price even more arbitrary. However, nobody is offering £300million now and if we stay up, then surely all that happens is the club maintains its current value. It doesn’t enhance it. We will still have the same squad (albeit with whatever loanees come in, if the terms extend beyond the end of the season) and the same status as at present. Whoever comes in will have to invest in the squad, just as they would have done had they bought it last month.

        • TheFatController

          Plus more tv money won’t impact financial results much once higher fees and wages are accounted for …

        • Mark Potter

          Wrong. One of Staveley’s bids was for £350m. But her investors can’t afford to pay it upfront, they wanted to stagger the payments over four years.

      • Toonarden

        Yes but if we stay up he’ll be asking for a helluva lot more. He’s just great at moving the goal posts to serve his own purposes.

      • HarryHype59

        So where are they?

        • robbersdog

          They’re behind you.

          • HarryHype59

            If Premiership survival is achieved, then someone will bid £300m. However, the corpulent one will then want £400m!

    • Dillon Tovak

      Exactly, he says we can’t compete with Man City but he expects a buyer to view us in a similar bracket.
      We have far more in common with villa and dare I say, spit, blunderland.

      • Toonarden

        That’s one of the best comments I’ve heard yet. That should be put to the corpulent owner. I would love to hear his response.

      • HarryHype59

        We can’t even compete with the lesser EPL sides e.g. Watford and Burnley Yet our corpulent owner puts a price on this club which is far higher than any of those clubs!

  • Sid James

    Another right Carry On,
    all we need now is Clarko to enter the fray

    • TheFatController

      Daylight burns his skin, sees him bursting into flames and crumbling to dust.

      Give him time…

      • Peaky Magpie

        😂😂😂

        • TheNutJob

          Sid`s back
          😂😂😂

          • Leazes.

            yes he’s from ‘a love supreme’….a sunlun fan.

      • Dillon Tovak

        You shouldn’t give attention seekers what they want.

  • kingfisher

    As with anything that’s for sale,it’s only worth what someone will pay for it.Using the house selling example, we knocked back a full asking price offer within two weeks of first putting our house on the market, as the prospective buyers weren’t in a good position as they didn’t have any offers for their house.Eventually,as we didn’t want to lose the house we had found,we accepted an offer of £15,000 less than the first offer to enable us to achieve our aim!
    The moral of this story ? The highest offer isn’t always the most suitable.

    • TheNutJob

      he has`t got to sell, he can bide his time & knowing his luck the new TV money may well get him more than the £300m

  • Wor Lass

    “… like being expected to pay full price for a house before you find out whether the authorities are going to give permission for an abattoir or open cast mining to get the go ahead next door.” Or a massive block of student accommodation preventing further expansion of the stadium. That`s another nice little earner that Mike`s admirers conveniently forget to mention when they ponit out how much money he`s poured into the club out of the goodness of his heart.

    • Kath Chandler

      Spot on my friend

      • Wor Lass

        I can`t believe how little mention is made of it.

  • Peter Stabler

    The earning potential of the club is unknown until the hammer comes down on the next TV rights auction, with Google and Amazon supposed to be sniffing it could be anything. The timing of this is all very stange.

  • Andy Mac

    When you consider that at least a minimum of £100m needs to be spent on the squad plus another £40m on infrastructure, training centre, academy etc why would anyone pay the Fat Oaf more than the club is currently worth ?

    • mark pearson

      I can see your reasoning for £100m to be spent on the playing squad, but where did you pluck the figure of £40m for infrastructure etc . ? as far as Im aware the training facilities are a match, if not are better than most other premier league clubs, and St, James isnt exactly a crumbling old arena is it ? I dont want to be seen as taking Ashley,s side, but by saying 40m to upgrade on these things, is under selling the club a tad.

      • Andy Mac

        As far as I recall it was a sum mentioned to build a purpose built training facility albeit some while ago. Darsley is a joke and even Rafa’s tinkering cannot gloss over the fact. The makems spent £10m on their Academy of light way back in 2003. However even though its 15 years later it still makes Darsley look like an Old People Home

    • Haitchdee

      I agree give the fat lad nothing. PVP should give it up.

  • S.G.M.

    Get yer wad out and pay the man.

    • Mark Potter

      She can’t, she is fairly poor in football club buying terms. None of the money will come out of her Versace purse, she’s relying on other people. One of her major investors, the Reuben Brothers, pulled out before Christmas. That is why she hasn’t come back with an improved offer, she needs to find replacements who can actually afford it.

  • Alreet

    He might give a small wedge for a couple of players in jan but hes waiting for the midseason TV money to be released then he can skim that and take any improved offer.

    Hes a dirty leech

    • Andy Mac

      There are people saying money has been paid from the PL mid term already ? Trying to find out if true and how much

      • HarryHype59

        The Newcastle Evening Chronicle ran an article in July stating that this seasons TV money is paid via three lump sum payments!

        One on July another in January and a final lumper in June that reflects the position in the league table!

        There are also smaller monthly payments made each month throughout the season!

        If true, Fatty has already had a canny wedge of the TV dosh!

        • Mark Potter

          The first payment “on July”, before the Premiership season started? The payments are in January 2018 and May/June 2018. Everyone would get the same. Then a final payment based on league position. Whether the first payment is made 1st or 31st is not clear, but it would seem odd if it is not available to spend in the window.

          • HarryHype59

            The payment in July 2017 was mentioned in the Chronicle! Whether it is true, is not certain! However, it is not unfeasible as the Premier League would know the teams in the EPL by the end of May!

            The Chronicle also stated each club gets smaller monthly payments to ease cash flow issues! It claimed the January payment would be made in the earlier part of the month to facilitate transfer activities!

            The fact that both Brighton and Huddersfield have broken their respective transfer records again, would indictate that clubs have received money in this window!

            An an obvious question, is why Ashley is inferring there is no money for transfers when this isn’t true?

          • Mark Potter

            It took me some time to find it, published on 11 July 2017:

            “We understand that the guaranteed payments are divided across the season. The first payment has been made to clubs, then they are paid monthly for the rest of the season with an additional payment in January to coincide with the transfer window. There is also another payment at the end of the season – presumably related to finishing places and how many times clubs are on TV.

            “The exact amount Newcastle will have banked is not clear but it will be an eight-figure amount.”

            Not one other site that I could find explains when Premiership payments are made, and the Chronicle article is very vague, starting, “We understand…” Nearly all of the coverage (many dozens of articles across the media) cover only the total amounts and how it is calculated. The Premier League only publish how much they paid at the end of the season, and that gives the impression of it being paid in a lump sum. The facility payment (£1m per televised game), and prize money related to final position, couldn’t possibly have been paid last July. But it’s possible that the fixed amount where all clubs share equally in the overseas TV rights is spread over the year in monthly payments.

            This article (that a significant sun of money was being paid to the club for TV deal even before a ball was kicked) led the Chronicle to suppose that the club had up to £70m to spend in the summer. Clearly wrong.

          • HarryHype59

            “Significant sun of money”

            The Chronicle (I know) mentioned a figure of £38m for the first lump sum! The £70m figure mentioned by supporters on here, was based upon the incorrect assumption that Rafa would get the £41m parachute money and the unspent £30m from the Sissoko deal!

            It is highly likely the club has received some of the TV money already!

          • HarryHype59

            What is your source for the payment dates?

  • Geordiegiants

    He isn’t selling he is just getting a load of free publicity.

  • Bob Burton

    We all despise Ashley. We all want him out, but this is business.
    We just sold an unproven kid to Everton for six million. So, let’s average a 25 man first team squad at just six million each. Roughly 120 million give or take.
    That means they value the training facilities and SJP at a mere 130m. Really? With respect, that’s canny cheap.
    We may be allowing our hatred for Ashley to blind us to reality here. Is 300m that much ott? As much as I want him out, I simply can’t see him settling for 250m and through gritted teeth, maybe he’s right.
    52k crowds guaranteed. TV money going up. Please Amanda, look at the bigger picture, pay the money and rid us off this leech.

    • TheFatController

      I get your point, but here’s the straightforward answer.

      In the summer, Ashley said that the club and he had no money for players.

      That means no cash, and no sales, or assets, future revenue, or equity to loan money against.

      By definition, financially, that means the club, costing £130m and having loans owing to him for £120m, is worth £250m.

      Why? Because if the club is worth more, that is equity. So we may have no cash assets, but we can liquidate that equity to invest. In property obviously the term is ‘re-mortgaging’ – releasing equity by loaning money secured against future cash realized on sale of the property (if it’s not paid back through other income streams).

      So either we can’t afford players and the club is only worth £260m, or its worth £350m (and Ashley won’t secure loans for the good of the business against future income from the sale, or tv revenue, players sales, commercial deals etc.)

      He’s never challenged in interviews about this simply because he decides the questions.

      But if you had a mate who bought a house for 260k, had it on the market at £350k but said he had no money to decorate, improve it, you’d tell him to re-mortgage would you not?

      • Bob Burton

        Yes, but he’s lying! The truth is he won’t invest, not that he can’t invest. He’s a parasite. He wants out, we want him out, but he won’t go until he gets the money he wants. All I’m saying is that taking the value of the ground, training facilities and players, 250m 29is cheap. He won’t do cheap because he’s horrible.
        As much as I hate him, I can see why he wants 300m and, like I say, albeit through gritted teeth, I can see why.
        That’s in no way supporting his stance, just being realistic. 300m seems a fair price, as much as it falls me to say it.
        One thing we both agree on – he needs to go now. That means somebody coming up with 300m whether we like it or not.

        • TheFatController

          I agree, but my point I should have emphasised is that, if Ashley believed he could get £300m, he’d invest in this window.

          He’d put his own money in, ensuring (hopefully!) survival. Given he hasn’t, I conclude he knows he’ll not be getting £300m from any investor before the summer, when if we stay up without investment this window we’ll have another year of guaranteed tv revenue, and that may make some flush investor pay £300m.

          His lack of transfer activity thus proves even he values the club at less than £300m…

          • Mark Potter

            But only if you are right that “In the summer, Ashley said that the club and he had no money for players.” That’s not something I remember him saying. And even if he did, that was pre-season. As soon as the season starts we started accumulating TV money, and the first instalment should have been paid by now. We know Rafa had money left over when the window closed. And there may have been more instalments of the Wijnaldum and Sissoko money from Liverpool and Spurs. Half a season if match day receipts etc. But of course all balanced against the half a season of player wages and other costs. There is no evidence that the club is not making a profit which it can use to invest in new players. Especially as there should also be outgoings. If Mitro is now fit again, hopefully a deal will be concluded to get rid.

      • Cockneytrev

        Very good points,,

      • HarryHype59

        He will pick up £100m plus this year even if are relegated again!

    • Ram Kishore

      There’s a lot more to running a football club than just player’s values.. 120m is a varying figure
      See Everton’s value 2 years ago when Farhad moshiri bought 50% for 79 million
      There is much more than just player’s values.
      And it doesn’t matter how much the PCP camp values us. Going for 250m is not going to kill our pride or value
      This is pure business and investment for them..

      • Mark Potter

        In order to buy a minority stake (a majority would have meant ousting Kenwright) and probably would have cost more) Moshiri sold his 15% stake in Arsenal for around £146m. That values Arsenal at nearly £1 billion.

    • Mark Potter

      I don’t despise anyone. Why are you so full of hate if “this is business”?

      Gibson was sold for £1m in the summer, with clauses that might take it much higher if he plays regularly for the Everton first team.

  • Hughie

    He wants his 270
    million back with some profit of course so 300 without caveats may well not be fake news and may have been his stated bottom line. Presumably Staveley and co have been “wasting” his time because he gave them a price initially which they have tried to undercut etc. Staveley and co have also upset him with the publicity and we all know that Ashley a bit like Trump has a vindictive streak. So he has probably ended the saga out of spite. We also know that he couldn’t care less who the buyer is or whether they might improve the club. Putting little Dennis up to say that demonstrates the man’s naivety. The fake news about signings will be a further joke of course.

    • Andy Mac

      I still maintain the “debt” incurred by Fatman is at least 50% self inflicted and the other half could quite easily be offset against the free advertising plus all commercial sales on NUFC direct which go directly to Sht Direct. The fat oaf is doing well if he gets £250m especially in light of the price the ex Arsenal guy Moshiri paid for 50% of Everton. At £79m that valued The Toffees at around £158m just under 2 years ago. There is no way this club is worth twice that even allowing for two years variation.

      As always Fatman wants cake, icing and the cherry on top. Its only us that can help him move on quicker and for less money.

      • HarryHype59

        Each time we get relegated, Ashley loans the club money and adds it to his notional debt! He insulates himself from the consequences of his business errors!

        I agree, £250m is a realistic bid for a third tier premiership club who are 50:50 to go down! Ashley could be begging Mandy to buy us for half that amount when the club is back in the Championship!

        • Mark Potter

          No. The money he loaned the club in 2010 to pay player wages while in the Championship was paid back, not added to the debt from when he bought the club and paid off Shepherd and Hall’s debts. We don’t know whether a similar loan was made last season in the Championship, and whether it will be paid off within two years.

          • HarryHype59

            The debt wasn’t £145m when he bought the club!

            If the club was well run it wouldn’t have been relegated twice under this regime!

    • Ram Kishore

      Ig the debt Newcastle united owe Ashley will stay after the sale… This 250 or 300 million sale doesn’t include the loans

      • HarryHype59

        That’s not what is being reported in numerous media outlets! The notional debt is owed to Ashley!

        • Ram Kishore

          We know nothing from the club’s accounts and the clear picture can be made only from inside the club .. The media just speculate and we speculate more..

  • Kath Chandler

    Get around the table & discus this as a PROPER businessman would do Mike Ashley – & STOP your drunken calls to Sky Sports ! (Yes we know – they keep NOTHING secret)

  • HarryHype59

    No serious investor is going to stump up £300m plus for a club that is 50:50 to get relegated for the third time in nine years! It just isn’t going to happen!

    Yet again this tedious saga detracts from the fact that we are a!most three weeks into January and there is indication of that a signing will be made!

    • Stephen Paylor

      who could we sign that would be better than what we have at a price Ashley would pay? Name the names?

      • Mitros gotta start

        Shola the mackem slayer

      • HarryHype59

        “At a price Ashley will pay”

        You have inadvertently identified the key problem!

        Meanwhile our relegation rivals strengthen by signing new players!

        • StevieB

          They wouldn’t accept 30g a week apparently

          😂😂😂😂😂

  • StevieB

    So it’s clear to see how it’s gonna pan out. PCP tried to hustle Ashley into selling cheap in case we got relegated , when Ashley wouldn’t budge they’ve stood firm hoping he’ll crack and give in at 250m, how ever Ashley’s gonna role the dice on his nufc asset once more and chance it that Benitez keeps us in the prem on a shoestring budget then sell it in the summer at the 300 m he wants

  • Mitros gotta start

    I think 1 thing we all agree on is the fat [email protected] is a spiteful horrible lying shyte that would spit on the ground and drown his own mother in it to get one over on somebody….he isnt going anywhere unless its on his terms….he is used to getting his own way and would happily see the club fold than let someone else come out of this looking better than him or get one over on him….the only way we can get rid of him is if he saves face…..sadly trying to shame him in the press only makes him dig his heels in harder…..its gonna be a horrible journey until he leaves…..strap in, its gonna be a rough ride.

    • Return of the Mack

      This is the man who’s Mam and Dad remortgaged their house in order to fund his first sports shop. He has since fallen out with them…become a billionaire and never repaid them.

      Still some say he only wants what’s best for Newcastle. The clowns.

      I assure you he was never going to sell.

      • Mark Potter

        He got £10,000 from his parents to start his business. But what is your source for him never repaying it?

        • Return of the Mack

          Check your facts. It was substantially more than 10k. Stop using Wikipedia and investigate if you’re such s staunch fan.

  • gallowgate26

    That’s a good point at the end. If Rafa does keep the club up this season, then who says Ashley will want to sell for £300 m? The club will be worth more than that if you look at the TV money era, which is just kicking into full swing. He will want £4oom!!!! More absolute face saving rubbish from the Cashley camp, as he’s been exposed yet again, as a FCB (and the C doesn’t stand for Cookney)

    • Mitros gotta start

      Come on, the fat [email protected] wouldnt move the goalposts…..him being an honourable trustworthy businessman….his word is his bond after all…..

    • Jackie Milburn

      This will go on and on and on, all the while the club feeds Mike Ashley with cash

  • HarryHype59

    The people claiming the TV money could make the club worth £350m plus next season, forget that our membership of the EPL is hanging by a thread! NUFC are not and indeed haven’t been an established EPL side for years!

    • Jackie Milburn

      If we go down he will pocket the £90m balloon payment. No loose situation for a gambler like Mike

    • Mark Potter

      We’ve been in the Premier League for something like 22 out of 25 years. Only Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs have been there every year. Even Man City have not always been there. Twice relegated out of the Premiership, they even spent a season in the third tier. They have been in the Prem about 20 out of 25 years.

      • Cockneytrev

        Everton

      • HarryHype59

        I suggest you take a look at the EPL finishes of this club since 2007! This club has been in annual relegation battles apart from one season!

        This is in total contrast from the Hall Shepherd era! Newcastle had seven top six finishes in fourteen years!

        • Mark Potter

          But you didn’t mention top six finishes. Is that what qualifies as an “established EPL club”? So Everton, Southampton aren’t established?

          Were we an established EPL club under Gullit, Souness, Roeder, Allerdyce or Keegan (second time round)?

          BTW don’t! you! know! how! to! use! punctuation!!!

          • HarryHype59

            Once again you fail the see the obvious. In the fourteen seasons of EPL membership prior to Ashley, Newcastle were never relegation candidates. They were regulars in the top six and even played in the CL

            Since 2007, the club has been relegated twice and have been relegation fodder for every season bar one!

            The spectre of relegation was always a threat this season as newly promoted sides tend to struggle in the EPL! Missing out on last seasons bumper TV deal was a massive financial blow!

            The problem is compounded by an owner who positions the club at 15/16th in the wage bill and squad value!

          • Mark Potter

            I see you are trying to contain your hyphen obsession. Three sentences without one. Good for you.

          • HarryHype59

            I await your response to the points made above.

  • Desree

    Lets do an ICO to generate funds for buying the club. We can create our own money now, Ashley has the rights to sh!tcoin, what about geordiecoin? You can use it to buy tat from Ashleys stores, pies, season ticket, wetherspoons will soon be accepting crypto too.

  • Jack Chapman

    Mike Ashley is a southerner so not interested in a northern club a complete waste of space, he is wasting Newcastle uniteds time

    • Jackie Milburn

      And pocketing the cash

    • Mark Potter

      Are southerners not allowed to support the club? I’ve never seen that law. Where’s the boundary?

      • Jackie Milburn

        Touchy subject? And who do you work for??

        • Mark Potter

          Yes, it could be very awkward for me, if there’s a law restricting who can support the club. I was born South of the River Tyne, but North of the Tyne Bridge. Do I qualify? Do I even exist?

          I can’t say where I work, but it’s quite far “down south” ;)

      • Jack Chapman

        No Mark Potter if you think before you write you would see that I named the owner not the many loyal southern fans

        • Mark Potter

          The implication is that he doesn’t support the club simply because he’s a southerner. He does support the club, has done since Keegan was first in charge.

  • Jackie Milburn

    Mike Ashley will always value the club at a higher price than anyone is willing to pay, as he uses the football club as a source of income. Therefore Mike Ashley will, to some extent, add this premium to his valuation of the club.

    Any potential buyer will consider Newcastle to be a good investment opportunity but will not be prepared to compensate Mike for his favourite source of pocket money.

    ie the £100m tv cash that Mike is taking for himself

    • Mark Potter

      Stick to the facts. The TV money is paid to the club, and is mainly used to pay player and staff wages. No money, from whatever source, has ever been paid to Ashley, except to repay the loan he provided during the 2010 relegation. He takes no salary, and no dividends. He even pays for the hospitality he and his guests get when he goes to matches. Ashley personally has never made a penny from NUFC. The accounts are online for you to check.

      • Jackie Milburn

        Simple facts then.

        1) Mike Ashley does not pay Newcastle United for any of the sports direct advertising

        2) sports direct receive all proceeds from club merchandising

        3) NUFC should receive an extra £100m this season. Will that be used to cover lost revenue when we get relegated at the end of the season? Or will we owe Mike that too?

        • Mark Potter

          Sports Direct didn’t pay for advertising. But that’s not taking any TV money from the club. If you want to make the point that SD should pay for the advertising then say that, don’t say something else which is manifestly untrue.

          Sports Direct have a commercial arrangement with the club over merchandising.

          Sports Direct is not Mike Ashley. Ashley receives no salary from Sports Direct.

          Your claim is that he personally is taking £100m TV money from the club. It’s false.

  • Fanusmcmanus

    If Ashley bought the club and provided the interest free loan, his total ‘outlay’ is around 265m. As a businessman he would be looking for at least 5% annual return on this investment (likely that he would’ve gotten this if he’d invested in property or the stock market over a similar period), this equates to 431m. Then if you take into account the change in market value of the squad Ashley inherited as owner as underperforming “star” names versus what we have now -80m, in todays market?, is it unreasonable to expect 350m? Surely not, with the impending TV deal. If Amanda has a multitude of investors why is an additional 50m then so much of an issue?

    • Ram Kishore

      You maybe right.. but there is something I can add too
      What if he is getting his returns every year… as he could receive payments through revenues made..
      Sportdirect advertising..he could use that to offset his investment

      Lot of factors need to be considered
      Only the accounts has the answer..
      Was sportsdirect advertising was paid for??
      Just putting in variables.. neither supporting Ashley nor Amanda..
      Newcastle is just a property for them..nothing else

  • Jack Chapman

    That is all Ashley is interested in money money money not the least bit interested in Newcastle united,for goodness sake give Rafa something to work with