Sitting there watching Newcastle 0 Brighton 0 to the bitter end was a tough ask.

At half-time there wasn’t a single minute of added time and I bet many of us who were still there on 90, wouldn’t have minded if the referee had done the same and instantly blown the final whistle.

I have read a few comments and amazed that some Newcastle fans are going down the road of trying to claim Brighton were as bad as us.

Firstly, they were the away team, so obviously it is expected for starters that Newcastle should make the running.

However, on top of that, Brighton were much the better team. They passed it about 10 times better than Newcastle did, had all the time they wanted in midfield, only Jamaal Lascelles keeping the defensive line tight was responsible for the score being goalless at the end.

The most worrying thing for me is that this was/is Newcastle United’s best team.

We aren’t waiting for him, him, and him, coming back from injury/suspension to save us/make us better.

Some of you might argue that Mitrovic deserves a chance and maybe he does – but only because Joselu is so average and was so poor today. I would probably give Mitro a game but it would be with no expectation of it improving the team.

Of the others missing…Lejeune is no better than Clark, Elliot as good/bad as Darlow, Gamez couldn’t get a game in the Championship, whilst I thought Manquillo was a bit unlucky to lose out to Dummett today but would have given us nothing more.

As for those on the bench…well I suppose Shelvey is the obvious one but he has been rubbish this season, just as slow as all the other centre midfield options and having a central midfielder dropping back to get a two yard pass off a centre-back gets us nowhere.

As for Perez and Murphy, well we saw when they came on today, that is what they are – Perez nowhere near good enough as usual and Murphy still got it all to do.

Analysing our team today, nine of the starting 11 were playing for us in the Championship last season, that is what we are – a Championship team really.

We needed at least four or five players to sign in the summer who would walk straight into the team.

The only two (other than Atsu who was on loan and then signed permanently in May) new faces today were Joselu who was a desperate bargain buy once Rafa realised Mike Ashley wasn’t keeping his promises, as well as Mikel Merino who has shown quality but was poor today. You can’t be relying on a 21 year old new to this country and his first full season in top flight football.

So, that team today is as good as it gets. How depressing is that?

Yes they are capable of playing better but when the opposition are solid and don’t make mistakes, Newcastle don’t have the guile or pace to break them down.

It says it all when we usually look to DeAndre Yedlin as the player who might do something to get behind the opposition, especially when he does that by charging at breakneck speed and hoping he still has the ball with him when he gets there.

Without a number of better quality players arriving in January, this is what we have to look forward to in the next five months.

Stats from BBC Sport:

Newcastle 0 Brighton 0

Possession was Brighton 55% Newcastle 45%

Total shots were  Brighton 10 Newcastle 11

Shots on target were Brighton 3 Newcastle 2

Corners were  Brighton 6 Newcastle 3

Referee: Anthony Taylor

Newcastle United:

Darlow, Yedlin, Lascelles, Clark, Dummett, Ritchie (Perez 72), Hayden, Merino (Shelvey 76), Atsu, Joselu (Murphy 84), Gayle

Unused Subs:

Woodman, Manquillo, Mbemba, Diame

Crowd: 52,209 (2,200 Brighton)

(Read the instant Newcastle fan/writer reaction to the draw with Brighton HERE)

(Read the match ratings from the goalless draw HERE)

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  • TheNutJob

    I`d rather play 4-5-1 than have Hoss anywhere near the team

    • He links up play quite well, it’s Gayle who hasn’t taken his chances in the last 2 games really. Hoss actually made a few chances for him.

      • TheNutJob

        they both need replacing and quickly

        • nufcslf

          So very true, but I would still put my money on Gayle being the more promising option from the sub bench if a forward is bought in January. Hoss should not even be in the game day 16.

          • TheNutJob

            Gayle as back up yes

        • anyobrien

          This is very true

      • anyobrien

        He did today won a few headers and held up play… Got clapped off when subbed, gayle bloody dived again today ffs

      • Popnbgd

        Another pathetic excuse for playing Joselu and poor team selection…Firstly,Joselu is supposed to score…

      • Natturner26

        Anyone can pass sideways that is all he does.

  • Leazes Ender

    The whole of football knows of the gulf between the bottom of the Premiership and the Championship….. it is a deliberate act, how many times have I to say it…. they (Ashley, Charnley, and the board Moncur) knew what they were doing in positioning the club at fifteenth….

    Did anyone (Rafa included) really expect a different outcome?

    • nufcslf

      The very reason why I wouldn’t step foot into St. James’, even if I did live back home. If fat guts stays…which he likely is…the club is doomed to the Championship if not worse for a long long time. Terrible for something you want to support.

      • TheNutJob

        Doomed belongs to me
        😂

        • nufcslf

          It’s all going wrong……..

          • TheNutJob

            i`ve been saying that for 19 yrs

    • Leicester Mag

      At the moment we’d be trucking lucky to finish 15th.

  • robbersdog

    Colback never gets a mention these days; it’s like he doesn’t exist. I think it’s a pity that he hasn’t been kept in the first team picture because he’s certainly no worse than our current first-choice midfielders, and he can play in both defensive and attacking central positions.

    • You must be high on something! Jack Passback? He was struggling in the Championship mate, come on!

      • Jezza

        Spot on.

        • TheNutJob

          at least Fat Sham, the Silver snide & Geordie John are all in gainful employment, God knows where JFK is
          😂😂😂

          • Jezza

            I fear we’re about to find out.

    • Albert Stubbins

      He couldn’t pass water FFS.

  • Andy Mac

    “The most worrying thing for me is that this was/is Newcastle United’s best team”

    Is it ? I’ve already asked why we didnt play the same team from the West Ham game

    Elliot (admittedly injured)
    Yedlin Clark Lascelles Manquillo
    Ritchie Saivet Diame Atsu
    Joselu Gayle
    then there’s the question of Mitro, maybe Woodman, Aarons, Mbemba. Haidara ?

    I am stuggling to understand what Rafa’s strategy really is ? If he’s trying to force Fatman into buying some quality in January before he sells I’d ask the obvious question “Does Fatman really want to sell and leave all the benefits to SD behind” ? Too much politics not enough passion.

    • nufcslf

      Rafa is playing a very dangerous game if it is fatty that these performances are pointed at. It is also a kick in the nuts to fans all around the world. Can only hope January brings something to cheer about. Get a bad gut feeling it is going to be a long long time that anything Newcastle United is going to be about the football and not the sh*t running it into the ground.

    • Damon Horner

      Good point in theory but if that team played yesterday and lost the daggers would ne out for picking Diame/Saivet/Joselu or playing a team that’s obviously tired or worse if we pick up an injury. The problems is the result not the continuity of selection.

  • Leicester Mag

    Struggling to think of a more depressing period over the whole time I’ve supported Newcastle. Hardly a single player to get excited about. Awful negative football. Whatever is said about the City game for the first time I can recall going back to the 1970s we accepted defeat before the ball was kicked. All this before we even get to the root cause, Ashley. Hate is a poisonous emotion but I struggle to find a more fitting one. The hate is amplified because I cannot fathom what he gets from any of this. Totally utterly trucking fed up.

    • TheNutJob

      It`s all on Fatty, he employed a top manager cos it`s cheaper than buying players of quality. he continues to gamble that Rafa can handle it but the fact is no other manager in the World could do better than Rafa.
      give him a quality striker & you won`t see Hoss again, the guy needs 6 or 7 in not 2 or 3 and we all know that`s not going to happen

    • anyobrien

      If you gan back to the 70s mate like me you’ve seen much much worse…. I know I have christ I remember 14 thousand of us idiots watching that dross… And yes kids 14 thousand… Before it all became sexy and that!

      • Leicester Mag

        I’ve seen the infamous Rafferty/ Shinton strike force. I was at the abandoned game verses Oxford when about 9000 turned up. Yes the standard was worse but relatively to me this is worse because we, by which I mean Ashley we choose quite deliberately to not compete

        • Lofty

          Shinton got seven goals as top scorer that year. Wish we had him now!

          • Albert Stubbins

            We have. He’s just changed his name to Alexander.

          • Geordiegiants

            Beat me to it ha ha.

  • anyobrien

    It was terrible today I honestly thought we would win…. But I do believe they were as poor as us wayward passing, Bong there full back couldn’t trap wind we both huffed puffed and hoofed the ball up field… Two championship teams with no fire power… Murphy up front for them must wear roller skates as he can’t stay on his feet…. Rafa cautious today which tbh I was gutted with and when we did create the odd half chance we have not got the quality to finish it… Gayle header for example!
    Atsu today did not break a sweat, merino and Hayden dragged all over and out of position back four tbf solid but not up against much…. It’s obvious this all stems from the summer and fat boy not buying I really don’t get my head round it…. We are heading one way and that’s t doon unless we pull out some shock results against teams we should not even have the right to play against nevermind beat…. It all stinks tbh and it’s becoming tiring very tiring… Anyway keep the faith and I’m ganning to Stoke must be mental.

    • TheNutJob

      the £30m that`s supposed to be floating around would have made all the difference 6 months ago

      • anyobrien

        We won’t get any of that

        • TheNutJob

          it`s gone the same route as Big Andy`s & Moussa`s fee`s
          into a black hole

          • anyobrien

            Correct

          • Phil Yare

            and cabaye’s. i remember idiots at work celebrating saying we got 20m or whatever it was….how can you celebrate when the funds evaporate as well as a star player

  • TheNutJob

    I see Clarko`s done a runner. Scotty must have beamed him up, thank God

    • Clarko

      Que?

      • TheNutJob

        Oops that was quick
        😂😂

        • TheFatController

          He’s like a cockroach in a nuclear blast – the only thing to survive …

  • HappyToons

    If we put our unbiased spectator’s hat on this is the worst football and worst team for a long, long time. As it is continually repeated Rafa built a team on a budget to get us promoted. If he was given the funds in the summer from Burnley downwards we would have been able to compete, as the league is probably the worst it has been for the same long time, except for the top few. We are a shambles at present and need 5 or 6 players not just 2. Rafa knows that and hinted at it all pre season.

    We now see Shelvey often needs a lot of time and space to deliver those long passes, but he also needs quality premiership players doing the runs. You don’t get that space against most premiership teams, so he is limited to a few sideways passes, without that. Sadly he is still a top player on the day and if he was sold for £12m it would be a scandal if you look at what that buys in the current market. Yet he wouldn’t get in the top 8 sides or on the bench. Who else is a top player or even looks like a premiership player at present, not more than two of the current squad?

    The positivity and excitement factor has disappeared and reminded me of1988 when we had to sell Peter Beardsley but bought what seemed like a few decent buys. The excitement saw 8,000 at Goodison on the first day only for it to be a dire rock bottom season.

    Interesting when Jim Smith came in with Bobby Saxton as his assistant the
    Goalkeeping Coach was Andy Woodman Development Coach Nigel Pearson
    Chief scout Steve Clarke, but they couldn’t save an awful squad of players and under performing buys.

    No manager would be doing any better with our present poor squad. Rafa simply needs the money. It was spelled out this was a championship squad, yet with our supporters hat on, we are always black and white ‘daft’ blinded to reality, living on ‘hope’; but now reality is sinking in a little too quickly for many. January is possibly the month that keeps us up, if Rafa is given that money! If not …

    • nufcslf

      I’ve wanted to have that ‘hope’, but that was gone as far back as KK being forced to walk. Even the 5th top finish was sh*t on by Cashley and ended 5th bottom the following season. Club is a joke and the football is rubbish and doesn’t look like improving any time soon

    • Duh

      I don’t think we are a shambles. To the contrary, organization is the only thing preventing a hiding every game.

      The issue is a lack of quality and/or experience in key positions as you say.

      • nufcslf

        I hope you are right, but 1 win in 12 doesn’t exactly fill you with much confidence.

  • Leicester Mag

    I’m sat here reflecting when is enough enough? At what point will the majority release that Ashley won’t sell up and won’t change. When Rafa leaves, when we are relegated again? Maybe we’ll survive down to the failure of others. Then what? Lascelles sold to Spurs? Merino to Spain? While he remains we have NO future. I prey he leaves because I fear the fight will never happen.

    • Duh

      I think most people fear that mate.

      We will see in January won’t we?

    • anyobrien

      I’m thinking the exact same thing…. When do I finally walk away after 40 years

      • Leicester Mag

        Living in Leicester it was easier for me but I hate not going. I hate that something I loved now makes me sad. I say sad as I’ve almost gone past anger

        • Geordiegiants

          I quit going, it’s hard at first, it makes you irritable. Then when you haven’t been for a while it gets easier, now my kids are getting to 6 and 7 wanting to go. I’m at a cross roads once again, what do I do? I love it and want to go, but I dont want to spend one penny of my money with the cancer, I do not spend a penny in any shop he owns or has shares in, and there is a lot if you check it out.

      • nufcslf

        As much as I am also 4 and a half thousand miles away and have an easy choice not to go to matches and have hoped for a full boycott of the ground for years now. On the other hand it should simply never ever come to that. Fatty has a lot to answer for.

      • Albert Stubbins

        You don’t mate. It’ll come good one day. You’ve waited this long what’s another year or two? I’m in the same boat,keep rowing.

        • anyobrien

          Cheers I like that

        • Geordiegiants

          I love your attitude and if it wasn’t putting money in Jabbas pocket would still go.

    • nufcslf

      Too true. It also worries or is it offends me that certain fans stand by and believe in Cashley even after the p**s taking he has done for a bloody decade. Speechless on that one.

  • TheFatController

    Let’s be look at the last ten years:-

    – good players inevitably want out to a CL club
    – reasonable players that give all get us bottom half or promoted, the less gifted drag them down
    – manager will be a yes man or undermined/fired for saying ‘no, I won’t be undermined’

    Here’s to ten more under Ashley, unless Staveley offers £300m in the next 30 days.

    We can talk tactics, funds, players, windows, managers, scouting, youth, and regularly do. And although seeing different solutions/ causes, there’s one common denominator, and only one.

    Always always one.

    I think Sir Bobby would now say:-
    ‘What is imperative to bring success? It’s not the manager, or the players, the scouting, the youth, the stadium, the fans, or even the Chief exec. Its the owner’

    Where would City be without Mansour? Who would they rather have? Mansour or Guardiola?

    10 years, 3 chief execs, 9 managers, 100s of players, One ground invariably full. Of fans never feeling 100% confident in anything at the club.

    Thanks Mike.

    • nufcslf

      Here here

  • TheNutJob

    watch the lads upset the odds and get a result at Stoke, after all,
    it`s a funny old game

    • Albert Stubbins

      Would it be an upset? Stoke have incredibly been even worse than us of late. I’d take a draw. Lol

  • Albert Stubbins

    We were dreadful again today. So difficult to play effectively when it’s clear that our strikers are so poor. Gayle can’t play as lone striker so Rafa is forced to play joselyn. Could he not consider playing maybe gayle as a false number nine and almost an attacking midfielder with shelvey/merino in behind and have effectively six in midfield with Haydon as CDM protecting back four, at least we would have shelvey and merino on the pitch together at least at home games? A choice of two from Atsu,Aaron’s,Murphy and Ritchie as wide players. With flat back four. No high balls from keeper and play it out from the back. We need to change something especially at home as it’s clear to everyone that one shot in ninety nine is nowhere nearly good enough if we are to survive in this league.

    • nufcslf

      Something new has to be tried and soon. Granted it is the same players to choose from no matter what you try, but at least try. There are options with the majority of the squad now available. I also think the defence would be fine with a more attacking midfield you are talking about that would also get back to help when needed.

      • Albert Stubbins

        Anything that keeps joselyn away from the pitch has to be a good thing surely. He’s making Diame look like Beardsley at the minute like.

        • Duh

          That’s harsh

          • Albert Stubbins

            Who on?

          • Duh

            Joselu and Beardsley.

          • Albert Stubbins

            Ha ha.

      • Duh

        I think we are back to where we were before we had injuries to the likes of atsu and merino; grinding out results which inevitably means narrow wins, losses or draws.

        That’s Rafa’s game plan until he gets some new decent players.

        He’ll probably get something in January; I think Ashley will give him something (regardless of takeover) and he’ll likely free up wages and generate funds from the likes of colback, mitrovic. It’s a question of whether the club can get those 2-3 quality signings which will be critical to assure survival.

        The loan market might be the best option.

        • nufcslf

          He could very well throw some money at the dire situation we are in. This is the third time he has put himself in this pathetic situation the stupid [email protected] The last one still ended in relegation. Time for him to get stuffed and go and find a new play thing to ruin.

          • Duh

            Yeah, he is a dumb ass. At least he has Rafa both managing the team and I would assume, picking the targets.

          • nufcslf

            I hope that policy has changed and Rafa does get to pick who he thinks can avoid the drop. The damage a third relegation would do is unthinkable.

        • Albert Stubbins

          The reported signing of Ings would help. Proven at this level. But where’s the service coming from?

        • GToon

          Unfortunately I would imagine the players who would have considered us in the summer will think twice about it now. That’s the thing with Ashley and his gambling. He gambled that we wouldn’t be in trouble in January but we are, so the players he didn’t want to fund in August will cost more or to put it another way the money he should have let Rafa spend in August will now buy less. Well done mike. I know! Why don’t we try and get some cheaper players from France!

          • Jezza

            Excellent comment.

          • GToon

            The sad thing is Jezza that these are the only comments I seem to make these days. Believe it or not I don’t actually come on this site to moan. I love my team and really enjoy chatting with other fans, even Clarko! I just wish there was something positive to talk about once in a while. I’m going to the game next week. First home game for a couple of years. My kids are really excited. Hopefully there will be something to talk positively about. Dunno what I’ll do if it goes wrong though as normally I do weights in me back garden or the punch bag in the garage! Happy new year anyway. Glyn

          • Jezza

            I know the feeling Glyn. I am often accussed of being a “doom monger” but I just wish there was something positive to talk about. Anything at all to give a glimmer of hope but it’s negativity all the way with Ashley running this club right into the ground. Happy New Year to you too, marra.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    Brighton put ten men behind the ball and came for a nil all draw fair play to them but we had the better chances Darlow was never tested if we got the first goal would have been different. Yes they are worse than us.

    • Albert Stubbins

      Brighton’s keeper made one good save from Gayle and that was it from what I saw. Brighton looked more comfortable on the ball and never looked like losing. That Newcastle performance was terrible as an attacking force. Both sides set up not to lose and that’s what happened. One goal would have won it for either side,worryingly it never looked like it would be us imo.

      • Lofty

        The keeper also made a cracking save from a Lascelles header Albert, but I realise I’m splitting hairs!

        • Albert Stubbins

          Aye your right forgot about that one. Two chances in ninety mins then. Lol

          • Lofty

            I’d take one chance in ninety minutes IF the fecker went in! What a luxury eh!?

          • Albert Stubbins

            We are setting up to win games one nil. With the team we have Rafa knows it’s our only realistic chance of winning. It’s not pretty but it the only chance we have of winning. Tight at back and scoring with the very few chances we get. A dangerous game but the only option we have with players available.

      • nufcslf

        I was only able to listen to it and that really tells a better story that watching most times. The commentary told me all I needed hear. two awful teams that come May better hope there are 3 that are worse. The amount of times that it was made to sound that the commentary was in a studio miles away from the ground, I was hard pressed to think there was 50,000 at the game. The silence was defening comes to mind.

        • Albert Stubbins

          Atmosphere wasn’t bad considering the fayre served up. It was pretty good second half all things considered.

    • LA toon

      OK agree, however didn`t Rafa have a plan to negate their tactics as the possibilility of a team coming to Newcastle may adopt this tactic? That’s what good managers do. The team was woeful, passing to the opposition, no effort to run into space, passing back to the keeper, no movement in the middle of the park. All Rafa can do on the day is tell the players to pull their fingers out and bloody try. Should introduce a bonus system for passing a ball forward to someone wearing the same coloured strip. A very depressing day, cannot see where our next win will come from. I don’t expect anything in the January window, what good prem player wants to come to Newcastle and take a wage cut. Loans only possible and that depends on the wage they want.

  • Peter

    I simply don’t agree. It was two poor teams, but if anything we were slightly better. How many times did Brighton put the ball out of play when trying to pass to a wide player?

    • Duh

      Yeah Brighton were the poorer of the 2 sides. They do work hard though, credit to Hughton to installing their work ethic. Total lack of quality from what I saw, surprised they’ve picked up the points they have

    • Lofty

      My son and I counted at least nine occasions!

    • Tomb

      How were we better? Only one side tried to play football and it wasn’t us
      .

  • GToon

    What I find hard to accept is that we aren’t having a right good go at these so called lesser teams in our mini league. I don’t understand Rafa’s approach. Or to put it another way – if he was given the chance to play Watford, Everton, Bournemouth, Burnley, Brighton and Huddersfield again would he play the same way? I would hope not but to be honest I think he would. The games are running out fast and something has got to change. Or perhaps something has got to stay the same. What must Saivet be thinking now after doing well against West Ham? “What’s the point”, I would imagine. So the next time he is picked he isn’t going to feel up for it either.

  • Sid James

    Another right Carry On today

    • Leicester Mag

      Trouble is Carry on taking the p1ss stopped being funny 10 yrs ago

    • X,WHY,Y MAN.

      That’s what happens when your forever fated to haunt “The Sunderland Empire.”

  • gallowgate26

    Did you watch the same game Dean? Brighton were awful, couldn’t keep the ball inside the touch-line on several occasions. It’s a myth that Chris Hughton is a great manager. You know what he’s doing at Brighton? He’s got 6-7 outfield 6 foot + players and they were trying (but failed) to scored from a corner or set piece. He is on his way to managing Stoke or West Brom. Murray did nothing but go down when someone sneezed, 6foot+, the two CBs 6 foot +, 2 midfielders 6 foot +, one of the fullbacks 6foot+. Whip the ball in the box and hope for a goal, unfortunately they nullified one of our strengths (set-pieces) because of this. But we were as bad as them unfortunately and apart from a few hopeful chances (like in the City game) we didn’t look like scoring. They are not better than us, though they have 4 points from us, with a win we would have gone above them in the table!

    • GToon

      With a win? I’m not trying to be funny but which team do you think we can/will beat in this league? Ignoring West Ham obviously.

      • gallowgate26

        Not many but Stoke (form) and Swansea (position) (although they won today) are the worst two teams in this league (apart from us). They are our next two games. So I’m not being funny, when I say, if we don’t get at least 4 points from those two games, we are championship bound.

        • GToon

          Exactly but I see us getting very little if anything from any of the other games unless something happens in January. I see us ending up with 30/31 points come May- not enough.
          Stoke will be well up for the game I would think. I think we will get hammered.

          • gallowgate26

            You may be right that we will lose, but I don’t think we’ll be hammered. First reason – Stoke were BATTERED today, (watch it now on MoTD) resting players for our game (against Chelsea), we rested players against one of the best teams in the world currently and nearly snatched a draw. Second reason – We have tended to play better away from home (West Ham) and championship away wins record last season, Benitez just seems to excel at defend and counter tactics and the player play with less pressure away from the cauldron that is St James. I hope you are wrong and we can get something for the clubs sake.

          • thewildchimp

            It’s a bit different league this year. Only 19 teams in it. That will lower the survival points required by around 3. Than there’s the fact that the points are spread evenly at the bottom. I hope 35 ‘ll do… But we can only pray…

    • Tomb

      Maybe so but they try to pass the ball we lump it.

  • TyneBridge

    40m wasted in the summer. InRafa we trust !

    • HarryHype59

      Too true, his buys were poor. He went for quantity rather than quality!

  • Anni Selby

    Interesting comments Realy shows the takeover of NUFC is taking long becasue Ashley is missing about with this woman

    • TheFatController

      Although it may be a done deal. They won’t want anyone knowing it is done howerver as obviously every time Charnley calls someone who knows PCP are in, the prices will go up 20% minimum.

      We may not know a deal is done even after a window where we spend PCP money…

      • nufcslf

        Only Cashley and co would go out of their tossing way to make everything NUFC a huge silent mystery. When will the p**s taking end.

        • TheFatController

          But currently there’s nothing to gain from announcing the takeover is nearing agreement, particularly if it’s involving PCP funding January signings…

          • nufcslf

            Interesting. I hope so. All I really want to do is give my full support to the Newcastle United I used to love and look forward to a match day. What we try and support at present has little to nothing to do with football.

  • Mitros gotta start

    There is no money for new players coming from the fat pig…..unless we get a manager in that can get the most out of the players we have available and get them playing as a team we are going down….Rafa the liar is not the man to get us out of this….the last 12 games have proven this to everyone brave enough to pull their heads out of their 4rses and actually watch a game without the blinkers on….cue the sheep….not rafas fault…all fattys fault….no body can do any any better…blah blah blah

    • nufcslf

      I feel your anger and pain. It should have never got to this point, but after 10 + years of Cashley it was always going to get to this dire situation and I now find it funny. Fatty’s mismanagement just doesn’t ruin my weekends anymore and won’t until the day he leaves.

    • Jezza

      Which manager could we realistically bring in who would do a better job with these players than Rafa?

      • Albert Stubbins

        Lee Clarke’s available? I’ll get my coat. Ha ha

        • gallowgate26

          Albert Stubbins and Jezza…the guys who comment so that I don’t have to.

          • Albert Stubbins

            Keep replying mate. Everyone’s gone something interesting to say.

      • gallowgate26

        Waiting for him to say Gary Monk or Joking Here, perhaps Slaven Bilic? I bet they could get us challenging for Europe…

        • Albert Stubbins

          In the Eurovision song contest maybe, not the football!! Ha ha

      • Tomb

        The squad is poor and the players are playing for the manager I just feel we could be a bit more expansive at home rather than defend deep and knock it long. When we release the shackles like at West ham we look a half decent side

  • Mrkgw

    Murphy quite simply isn’t Premiership class. Joselu, not really good enough. Manquillo mediocre. Hayden, inconsistent. Darlow absolutely droppable. Benitez – much though I like the bloke, his picks are currently desperate and are certainly questionable. His decision also to release Anita, Gouffran and Krul look instantly regrettable now.

    • Geordiegiants

      I feel like I’m always defending him, but I think Amanda came in the pre season, he had sold the likes of those three and Murphy and was expecting to sign a few quality players, then when Amanda came he just shut up shop.
      Thats what I hope anyway.

      • Albert Stubbins

        He had bad players and bought badly mate. He should have gone all in on a centre forward and we’d be ok. I think Rafa would admit that now privately. He wasted twenty odd million. Man yoo have wasted ten times more but they’ve got a bottomless pit and Rafa had a small amount which he was expected to perform miracles with. The money dished out on lejuene, joselyn and manaquin may as well have been pi***ed up against the wall. Murphy was one for the future but has been chucked into a badly performing team too soon and we all know from past experience what happens to young players thrown in too soon.

        • Geordiegiants

          Leujune looked ok but just isn’t adapting, that has happened hundreds of times before with every single club. Manequin and the Hoss were literally all he had a chance of in the end, something went down we don’t know about pre season and he panic bought to fill out the squad.

          • Albert Stubbins

            Because he didn’t get enough money. I still think if he’d gone all in on a forward and left back we’d be ok. If he’d been backed he wouldn’t have brought in any of them other than perhaps Murphy for the future. Definitely not manaquin and joselyn.

          • Albert Stubbins

            I think what went doon is he realised mid transfer window he’d basically been lied to mate.

    • Albert Stubbins

      Who would you pick. As jezza reliably informed us all the squad itself is the worst in the league. And he’s probably right.

      • gallowgate26

        Anita can’t get a game for Leeds, Gouffran so good he’s playing in Turkey, Krul on the bench at… Brighton! Gabriel Obertan, was at Wigan, now in Bulgaria! Silvain Marveaux is in recently relegated FC Lorient in Ligue 2. Hmmm…

        • Albert Stubbins

          Did you see poor Timmy in the pre match kick aboot. There were balls going passed him every other second. It was like watching a kid in goal in the playground with everyone spraying shots at him at the same time. He looked sick as a chip!!!ha ha. There was no way he was playing after Chris had seen this. He’s welcome to him. Another player who got progressively worse as the years went by.

          • gallowgate26

            Didn’t see that but can well believe it. A prime example of a player who has one really good season and is then massively over-hyped. Do it over three seasons and then I’ll be impressed. Unfortunately shoulder injuries and 3-4 years on the sidelines have caught up with Timmy. Nice guy who I met in person once. Too young to be finished as a GK, he’s younger than me (just).

      • Tomb

        Probably right but we could at least give it a go at home

    • GlasgowMag

      I actually disagree Murphy has potential. Great turn of pace and can take defenders on. He is just unlucky no chance of smooth ride into the team as everytime he plays with relegation threatening the pressure mabye to much for someone his age. One for the future but needs experienced players around him to learn.

      • GToon

        Aye, put him in Chelsea’s team and bring him on for the last twenty when they are four or five up and he’d look world class no doubt.

        • GlasgowMag

          Nae man they will put him out on loan sell for 200k and re buy for 35-90 million like the other so called top 4 clubs 😂😂😂

  • Whickhamrobbie

    As said before 10 years of club decline , Bad signings,Bad management,Bad youth set up ,bad coaching Bad scouting have caught us up .
    Who has been here for all ten years ?
    Theres the problem .

    Two championship teams today and sadly the gulf will only widen the bottom half clubs are just treading water waiting to go down .

  • GlasgowMag

    looking at the posts today I feel including Rafa nobody actually knows what our best team is, basically because our squad is so poor and inconsistant. Reading between the lines most would agree Gayle, Ritchie, Atsu, Merino should be in the starting lineup but on todays performance, all 4 were basically hopeless. Everyone was also complaining we were not playing 2 up front at the start of the season at home so Rafa try’s the same combination as the West Ham game today, again hopeless. When Dummett was our regular left back last season he was getting dogs abuse but suddenly with absence you would think he was suddenly a superstar in some supporters eyes, but guess what he is still the same player as before. Rafa needs money and backing in Jan at least 8 of this squad need to go. If he doesn’t get the backing I would basically advise him to leave as his reputation is already getting hammered by a certain amount of supporters (probably same type as hounded Bobby out of the club in the past). I’m sure a champions league club would jump at the chance of taking him away from our tin pot owner as I’m guessing he basically doesn’t need the hassle.

    • Geordiegiants

      My sentiment exactly, I say it time and time again, the thing is when ever you mention Sir Bobby every single one of them say “it wasn’t me, it was terrible the way he was treat”.
      I can’t for the life of me see why Rafa is still here. They will realise when he is gone.

      • Albert Stubbins

        Five million a year mate!! Ha ha

    • Albert Stubbins

      I think it’s showing that he needs substantial funds to get a decent team. In the championship we had spent considerabley compared to most and won the league. Good managers need backing. Without the funds he looks normal. Will he be backed? If not we may as well have Mark Hughes or fat Sam.

    • thewildchimp

      Well, it’s not that we need two forwards – it’s that we need someone other than Perez or Diame. Not that Joselu is much better, though.

      • Geordiegiants

        Who though, we don’t have anyone.

        • thewildchimp

          Mitro, Merino, Shelvey… It doesn’t matter if they aren’t natural. Just someone who can hold under pressure and possibly pass well. Maybe play the wingers/full-backs who can then chuck it to the tall players. Anything that qualifies as a plan B.

          • Geordiegiants

            Apart from Donkovitic he plays them, Merino and Shelvey have played huge parts in our season so far.

    • Ed Wissing

      Exactly. Why play two players up front who can’t score when you could just have one? Maybe someone else can knock one in… or we win a corner and let Lascelles head one home.

  • Rev

    The most worrying thing is its the same every week. Five or six dropped, Rafa’s untouchables guaranteed pitch time, same negative ractics, subs on 70 mins, post match comments undermine players but Rafa’s tactics are ‘maybe questionable’. Anyone else think his rotations are destroying team morale and his refusal to rotate the weakest link upfront for the bloke with the bad back, or treatment of the ‘quality’ players we have in midfield who get a bit part smacks of ego bigger than the club? Everyone seems to have written off the players we have as not good enough, they were doing alright before Nov. Everyone can see it doesnt work but its the same every week, everyone says when we finally went for it we looked dangerous. We are sliding toothless out ofthe Prem and Rafa is as much to blame as Ashley. If we get nowt at Stoke is everyone going to start praying for £200m windfall? Aint happening, wakeip master tactician, YOU need to fix it, thats what you getpaid the big bucks to do.

  • glassjawsh-got-banned

    “especially when he does that by charging at breakneck speed and hoping he still has the ball with him when he gets there” – the most accurate assessment of Deandre Yedlin I have ever read. All the talent in the world, but my word is he frustrating sometimes.

    • nufcslf

      It is a classic case of him being an American where you can see it is all well rehersed and not home grown. The, “Is he ever fast”, followed by my sarcy, ‘Yeah, but he always leaves the best bit behind and can barely cross a ball when he does get in position. See it all the time here in Canada as well. Bit unfair maybe, but so very true with 37 years of seeing it.

      • Clarko

        It’s Ashley’s fault.

        • nufcslf

          Could very well be, since he has the final say on the old transfer front. Other than knowing nothing about ground roots football like a lot of North Americans, I might just give fatso a break on this one….maybe…

    • Martin

      Very reminiscent of Wayne Fereday.

      • Mal

        More Gordon Hughes I would say 😄

      • Arty Hume

        Benny Arentoft if anyone remembers him :)

  • Soldier

    Ashley is 100% to blame, he`s left the manager high & dry on the last 2 transfer windows. not many agree with his selections or his tactics but when you see the squad he has little choice. yes we have Diame, Joselu, Perez, Manquillo etc etc but the rest aren`t much better. he`s been denied funds & any backing from the owner. there`s nobody out there better for Newcastle. lets hope the man gets some quality additions in January, back the guy, he`s all we`ve got

    • Shields Mag

      Spot on there, easy to blame Rafa for our shortcomings but ultimately down to Ashley, Rafa can only work with limited options. Ashley out!

  • Saul Williams

    I believe the takeover is in a period of exclusivity, that’s why its gone silent.The curry house meeting was to celebrate agreeing a price

    • anyobrien

      It ain’t happening… Fatty is greedy he wants 300 million we are hurtling toward the championship yet again so it ain’t worth 300 million.

  • LEE

    I feel very sad for those of you who only see Ashley as the person to blame, it’s like we now have the chosen one, the untouchable.

    whilst i will say Ashley is not good for our club, the blame for the football we watch lands squarely at Rafas door. many of you are saying if Rafa had of got this player or that player he would be more offensive, well you are wrong, he was fired from the most attack minded team for being to defensive, his big 10-2 win there was a strange result, RM were losing 2-1 and they had 2 men sent off which opened it up for RM.

    you cannot say we have poor players when we watched them go away to west ham and play attacking football, score 3 hit the wood work 2 times, have people flood the box, then come home and watch us sit and defend against a team we beat away and who has a squad of championship players.
    there is no logic to it.

    could it be that changing 4-5 players every game is the problem.
    could it be that rafa has fallen out with at least 5 of our squad arguably first team players,
    Saviet has had 2 games and looked ok, Mbemba Mitro Gamez Pirlo all could be helping out, Ritchie dosnt look happy, Atsu not interested jonno is a bit part player for us.

    could it be that after every defeat he hangs the team out to dry?
    things like individual mistakes cost us.
    it’s a young team, i need more experience,
    Rafa seems very happy to pick his 100K a week up, i would love for him to earn it

    • TheNutJob

      ok, who would you replace him with ?

      • LEE

        right now there are 3 that fans have all asked for De Boer, Koeman , Tuchel, take your pick, all 3 wouldn’t cost a penny,

        • TheNutJob

          Tuchel would never come & the other 2 have been sacked for not delivering the goods

        • anyobrien

          Two have been sacked and tuchel ain’t coming… Koeman would never work under Ashley he paid 45 million for a midfielder Ashley wouldn’t give him 45 quid for a taxi… Until fatty goes nothing will change

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Koeman was very happy to come to work for Ashley in 2014, he was sounded out but Ashley wanted to give Pardew a chance, Koeman would not wait and was offered the Saints job.

          • anyobrien

            Really… If that’s true do you think koeman would of stayed after being lied about transfer money Carr buying the players and being hung out to dry…?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            I reckon he’d have done exactly what he did at Southampton. Once proven a success, he’d have gone on to a bigger club.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            He’d have had a bigger net budget than he did at Southampton.

          • anyobrien

            Maybe but does not take away the fact rafa was lied to and made out to look k a fool…. Ashley can not be defended on this he has constantly undermined our managers.

        • Toon

          Why? Two sacked for being total flops and Tuchel ain’t coming, sort your head out!!

    • Rev

      no aruments here, ‘questionable tactics’, must to do something different every match report but its not Rafa. Mitro, jonjo, mbemba, aarons, saivet can’t be any worse surely. Whats the point of rotating the same untouchables in and out then saying they are not good enough. At least go down fighting against our equals.

      • anyobrien

        There was plenty of fight yesterday and graft the problem is they are just not good enough for the Premier league.

        • ghostrider

          Plenty of fight doing what?

          • anyobrien

            Here I’m not even going to entertain you anymore your an absolute clown… We all know you don’t even go to the games.. I’ll ignore you and please you just ignore me OK… I can’t be bothered.

          • ghostrider

            You should have just saved yourself the typing and just said nothing at all.

    • ghostrider

      Spot on.

    • anyobrien

      No manager can work under Ashley look at the facts and look at who took the job…. Carver, jfk, pardew, mclown…. Sap’s the lot of them towing the party line if rafa goes expect more of the same.

      • LEE

        so we just sit and accept that rafa can abuse the current squad, and hang them out to dry for his mistakes.

        the squad is not happy, i’m sure everyone can see this, but it’s where people chose to lay the blame which is the puzzler.

        Ashley cannot be blamed for tactics,

        • anyobrien

          Correct his tactics even in the Championship were vert dubious.. In some games infuriating, but he did the jobs and he asked for a keeper, left back, centre back a number ten and a proven top level striker… He got none… Rafa is not untouchable you and others need to get this out your head at games he is constantly questioned and moaned at as every manager is…. But the bigger picture is Ashley ffs he’s spent nowt and bled us dry until he goes weather it’s raf or another manager there hands are tied.

    • Mike Adam

      Hey Lee, I am watching Palace go toe to toe with ManCity, 0 – 0 at half imagine that and it is entertaining football from both sides!!!

  • Toon

    Ashley is to blame but Rafa should be getting more out of his squad yesterday, they were appalling. Team selection was poor, Shelvey had to start yesterday and we ploughed on for 70 mins with no changes when it was obviously not working. I’m not Rafa’s biggest fan but he is a quality manager working with average players, however there have been too many very poor performances against other average premier league teams who seem more up for It

    • Geordiegiants

      I don’t think many of our players are average, if they were we would be doing a lot better, most of our players are average championship players at best.

  • magpiefifer

    What we have to face is that – as most of us have known since the start of the season – this squad is not good enough to keep us in the PL.Rafa knows it – he could,and maybe should have walked away when Ashley didn’t back him!
    I can’t see the addition of quality players in January,so we’ll be facing the third relegation under our odious owner.

  • Arty Hume

    Well IMHO we are relegation fodder at this moment in time, and if there is not at least 4 new additions to the squad, and I mean hand picked by Rafa, not those he was allowed to get in by the board because they fitted in the wage structure. If we do not strengthen we will go down, there is now an apathy/acceptance of the situation as it has happened before because of the same mistakes. The only true thing that the owner has said was he cannot pay for the players the club needs. The every penny Rafa generates for the club will go on new players, where is that??? IMHO Rafa does not have the players to bring on to improve the team, that is the problem. BHA were the better team yesterday, they found players far better then we did, and we looked slow, ponderous and afraid to take the ball, in short we chocked when we got the ball, no one wanted it. This IMHO was because no one wanted to be blamed for making a mistake, everyone played poorly, and when your mid field mis fires you are in trouble. Not blaming anyone, just saying Merino looked tired and he is slow to start with, it was not one of his better games, coupled with a poor game from Hayden we were always going to struggle. Yes I think Rafa could have made the subs earlier, at half time would have been the shot for me, a game of two halves as it at least gives the subs a chance to change the game, worked well for SBR.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    We have beaten West Ham twice and it shows we can do it on the day. Where we struggle is playing against ten men behind the ball or going one nil up at Man Utd and Chelsea then defending for the rest of our game. It’s got to the stage of the season where we need to go for all out wins and that includes Man City away no matter what the consequences are time to have a go for ninety minutes.

  • Tomb

    We are the worst footballing team in the league with only West Brom to rival us. It is anti football in the style of Tony Pulls but with a more fashionable manager. Defend deep work hard lump it long. Yes we have a poor squad but so do Bournemouth but at least they try to play football and did even in their first season up