An interesting Newcastle takeover update on Wednesday.

Always worth taking notice when it is George Caulkin of The Times delivering the news.

He says that Amanda Staveley and her group would ‘walk away’ from any deal for Newcastle United if Rafa Benitez left the club.

Caulkin says that the United boss is seen as an ‘integral’ part of their plans if they manage to get control.

This is simply common sense for the vast majority of Newcastle fans, just a shame that Mike Ashley hasn’t appreciated Rafa’s value, or else the club wouldn’t find itself in relegation trouble.

Constantly undermining his manager and misleading him ahead of transfer windows, as well as failing to invest properly by the end of this summer’s transfer window.

However, George Caulkin says that there is hope, with Amanda Staveley’s group said to have ‘submitted an improved £300 million bid and have formulated an outline agreement with Ashley’.

Now in the 11th year of Mike Ashley the club has suffered not just at first team level but also with a severe lack of investment below the senior squad.

However, The Times’ man in the north east says that if they take control, the prospective owner(s) ‘wants him (Rafa Benitez) to lead improvements at Newcastle’s academy and training ground, as well as challenge in the Premier League and cup competitions’.

I don’t think there is any doubt that the club needs a shake up from top to bottom, both on the playing side (at all levels) and the business side, with astoundingly commercial and matchday revenues no higher than when Mike Ashley took over more than a decade ago.

The only significant increase has been seen in broadcasting income (which all PL clubs benefit from), making it even harder for the club to compete in the Premier League.

Many Newcastle fans now doubt that a Newcastle takeover is possible during this season, until there is first clarity on which division NUFC will be in next season, though we all hope we will be proved wrong on that front in the very near future.



  • Leicester Mag

    Briefing and counter briefing no clear idea of what is true and what isn’t. Just wish this was done as the alternative is simply untenable. Ashley you have been here too long for no purpose in the name of God go!

  • Ivan

    There is no takeover, we’re being conned as usual it’s nothing more than a staged managed advert

    • Leicester Mag

      I hope you are wrong, I fear you aren’t

  • Uy

    Rafa the average Gaffa who gets flags with his face on waves around St James when he’s done absolutely Nout for the club other than get relegated then come back up..

    • Megatron1505

      Away with you Mackem troll.

    • wheyayeman

      Remind me how many Cups + Champions leagues you have won again you useless clown

    • anyobrien

      Ffs

    • Mark Davies

      Dont be so stupid you mackem bellmet

    • Kneebotherm8

      Rafa got us relegated???????……….ha ha ha ha……..go boil yer heed if ye can find a pan big enough.

      • Jezza

        Yes the Rafa out brigade seem to be under the illusion that McClaren left us in a safe as houses top half of the table position.

        • Tomb

          Do people want Rafa out though I’ve made quite a few negative comments about him as I think he has made mistakes this season but never wanted him sacked. Just because we don’t think he’s the messiah doesn’t mean we want him to go

          • Jezza

            Fair enough, Rafa has made a few mistakes but he has been put in an impossible position by Fatso. I also realise a lot of the people criticising Rafa on this forum don’t want him sacked but there have been a few very openly calling for his head.

        • Kneebotherm8

          Unbelievable, but true, if Rafa’s results had been transformed from the few games he had to the full season we’d have been well safe.

    • joe mac

      Tit…

    • JoeKinghere

      Absolutely.Rafa’s CV has been enhanced by having the likes of Gerrard, Torres and Alonso. With average players, he’s just, well. Umm, average. For someone who s so great, he’s been sacked a helluva lot of times.

      • Chris

        Would love to see these faces on fan cams and showing your faces with those posts…

        • JoeKinghere

          See above you plank

      • Damon Horner

        He’s been sacked three times. Same as Mourinho.

        • JoeKinghere

          Fact is that with this run of defeats, if it was Pardew, Carver or McLaren most of you lot would be baying for their blood, but just because it’s Saint Rafael he’s something special. Ashley didn’t back those managers either and they had some dreadful players in their squad…like S. Taylor, Williamson, Overran etc.

          • Damon Horner

            Doesn’t mean some of the fans are happy about it. His squad isn’t very good and he is apparently essential to any takeover and if the alternative is watching Pulis under Ashley’s ownership then sticking with Rafa looks easily the beat option.

            There’s also that his record as a manager might have made him earn some trust.

          • JoeKinghere

            Re your earlier comment about Mourhino. Again, he’s the Special One because he’s been able to buy stellar players at any price. I’d rather have Sean Dyche with a little bit of cash, and we’d be climbing up the table.

          • Damon Horner

            I like Dyche, I don’t think there are many better coaches of defence out there but I doubt he’d leave Burnley at this stage for our mess.

          • Jezza

            Sean Dyche has done well getting a small club to over achieve but handling all the pressure of managing a club like Newcastle is a different situation altogether. History shows that managers who exceed all expectations at small clubs generally go on to fail at big clubs. In any case there is no way Dyche would swap his cushy number at Burnley for this mad house.

          • Tomb

            Alex Ferguson Jose Mourinho Alf Ramsey Arsene Wenger Bill Shankley Bobby Robson all started with small clubs in fact I’m sure Rafa did. The main difference is being able to handle players with big egos and pay packets who may not take kindly to old school type managers.

          • Jezza

            Yes but the world of football is very different now and to be fair those managers are the exception rather than the rule. There have been far more managers who have done well at small clubs then failed at big clubs when given the chance.

          • Jezza

            True. When was the last time Pardew, Carver and McClaren won the Champions League.

          • Damon Horner

            In reality? Never. In their own minds? Carver might have won it in May.

          • Kneebotherm8

            Surprised Carver didn’t, he’s a helluva coach ye knaaa…………according to him like…..and he knew Sir Bobby….

          • Vladimir Biggski

            We have been unlucky in many of those games despite not having good enough players. If we had a decent striker he’d be top scorer in the prem by now.

          • Jezza

            Pardew, Carver and McClaren all had significantly more quality to work with and none of them were shafted as badly as Rafa has been in the transfer market.

          • JoeKinghere

            Quality players – like who – “Barn Door” Ameobi? S Taylor. Mike Williamsom? Titus Bramble? As for calling Burnley/ Dyche small club – the only thing big about NUFC is the owner’s waist size. To the rest of the world, You are a big club. In the North East.

          • Jezza

            Just shows how much you know. Titus Bramble left Newcastle a good three years before any of those managers ever came to St James’s Park.

            As for the quality Pardew, Carver and McClaren had to work with I mean the likes of Hatem Ben Arfa, Andy Carroll, Papis Cisse, Demba Ba, Loic Remy, Yoan Cabaye, Andros Townsend, Kevin Nolan, Georginio Wijnaldum and Daryl Janmaat no name a few. All of them miles better than any player currently on Newcastle’s books.

          • JoeKinghere

            Ooops – I may have got Bramble wroing but it was well known we had the leakiest defence for most of Pardew’s time. Look, I was no fan of pArdew but when the decent players you mention played well for him ( and Cisse was a one season wonder), we got to 5th and/ or mid table. Have you ever wondered why of all the clubs in the world the God Like St Rafael de Benitez chose to join a struggling club facing a relegation scrap with an owner who was well known for being tight with funding?

          • mentalman

            Apparently though all of those players were forced on to the managers where as Rafa claims to be in control of transfers.

            It’ll also explain why Pardew and McLaren were more successful with newcastle that rafa has been so far

          • Jezza

            In what way was McClaren more successful at Newcastle than Rafa?

            I have to say some of the comments on this forum are getting ludicrous. It’s supposed to be the season of goodwill not silly season.

          • Rich Lawson

            Every day on here is silly season at the moment,I’m sick of seeing the same type of comments reused again and again as tho’ it was a fresh opinion.Most of us want Ashley out and Rafa’ to stay and a proven goalscorer to come in. Can we not just move on until there is some real news ?

          • Tomb

            You could argue Pardew was more successful but McLarens only achievement was being a step up from Carver.

          • Tomb

            Some of these came cheap just rafa hasn’t found many bargains as he’s not used to bargain basement shopping

      • Vladimir Biggski

        That’s rubbish. Had we got Rafa in four or five games before we did in the season we got relegated, he would have kept us up.

        If Pardew was the manager with our current team then a 3-0 defeat would be a good result.

        • JoeKinghere

          Could have, would have, should have – all academic. Let’s look at THIS season’s reecord. If it had been Pardew he’d have had calls for his sacking from the sheep like herd. Rafa is being paid SIX times Pardew’s wages. THe results aren’t extactly six times better and MA was tight with his money for Pardew as well. Explain that.

        • Jezza

          If Rafa had come in two games earlier we would have survived. Delaying his appointment was what cost us our Premiership place.

        • Tomb

          Not sure about that our wins at the end of rafas first season were against teams who were on the beach

      • Tomb

        First two major jobs he was a huge success. His last 4 were a failure. And his style of play is negative even with top players

        • JoeKinghere

          Interesting test this weekend. We beat West Ham 3-0 back in August. They still have the same team and so do we. BUT they have changed their manager. So let’s see who comes out on top .

          • Tomb

            I’m looking forward to it possibly because I’m not worried about losing as I don’t think they will be a relegation rival come the seasons end. Maybe they will be under par having played midweek who knows. Despite the mocking comments on here there is no denying that Moyes Hodgson and Fat Sam have got results since appointed. The games I will be a nervous wreck for are the upcoming winnable games against relegation rivals Brighton Swansea and Stoke.

          • Tomb

            And to be fair with their squad West Ham should never have been down there in the first place. They were underperforming massively important Billic

          • JoeKinghere

            I imagine we’ll give them a good tonking , 3-0 at least. I will then eat my hat and as a result have no more figgie pudding for Xmas. Rafa will then be installed as the Saviour of the Geordie Nation. Or…… Moyes will rectify what West Ham did wrong last time against us, and beat us 1-0 or something.

          • Tomb

            Despite my pessimism on these forums I always feel strangely optimistic when the game kicks off no matter who we play. Then end up surprised at the end that we’ve lost again

          • JoeKinghere

            And I keep my pessimism in check by telling myself that we only need 3 more teams to do less well than us for us to survive to fight another day but annoyingly can’t find them – so far.

    • Jezza

      Rafa got us promoted as Champions with a team that was a long way from being the best team in the Championship.

      • Tomb

        It was the best team in the championship. Lascelles described us as the man city of the championship. However Rafa still had a job to do and he did it.

        • Jezza

          Not from what I saw. Brighton, Sheffield Wednesday and Wolves were all better than us for a kick off. Winning promotion was down to Rafa rather than the quality of the playing staff.

  • Saul Williams

    I’m so exited by this latest report.Deal nearly completed.Champers on ice.ffs.

    • Tomb

      Will wait till its official as weve had various deal nearly completed articles over the last few months

    • Jezza

      Don’t build your hopes up, it’s not going to happen. Fatso will still be here for years to come.

      • Saul Williams

        Sorry I’m just trying to convince myself it’s going to happen.

      • Kneebotherm8

        Another 10 years,at least,I fear.

  • Tony No.9

    I have just watched Bristol City deserveredly beat our greatest rivals we can’t play with their desire and commitment. My mum was a Bristolian my grandad played briefly for Bristol Rovers so I ‘m a bit bias but they deserve to replace us in the premier league. They passed successfully to a colleague even under pressure- something we cannot seem to do do. I hope Rafa uses the play back to teach our team how to play unless we do then we know the consequences
    Tony no9

    • scotty63

      Our greatest rivals? a manure 2nd string – a plucky underdog – your Grandad played for Bristol ROVERS and you are on about Bristol CITY – I’d say give your head a wobble but sadly I can only surmise it’s already detached from your body

      • Tomb

        Pogba ibrahmivic luakaku Rashford wasn’t a bad side.

    • Kneebotherm8

      They’ll replace us in the premier league when we get relegated, which seems quite likely,and when Bristol city get promoted,which seems very unlikely.

      • Tomb

        I think they have a good chance of going up they look a better side than we did last year certainly play good football but lack consistency maybe

        • Kneebotherm8

          Best of luck to them,its a few years since they were in the top division,hopefully not replacing us.

  • Gman

    Bristol City win 1 Mickey Mouse cup game and suddenly deserve a Premier League place. What utter rubbish!

    • Tomb

      It was a proper game Man u had a strong team out but the point is they beat them by being positive and playing good football something we never do against the top sides.

      • GToon

        Or even the the top sides in the championship last season.

        • Tomb

          Rafa isn’t interested in attacking football which is why he was moved on at his last 4 clubs. He had huge success at Valencia and modest success with Liverpool domestically however there was the small matter of the European cup win! Whether people think rafa is a genius or not don’t expect an attacking team even if he has money to spend

  • HarryHype59

    This whole takeover saga has now become a bore! This latest “revelation” contradicts the story in the FT claiming PCP won’t back down on the relegation clause!

  • Mag_Ladd

    There’s been rumours of the deal being off today, it’s been nothing but a complete mind f’ck this takeover saga.

    • Vladimir Biggski

      The fat get has been playing us (and Rafa) since the end of last season. He is playing on Rafa’s professionalism and ability. The gamble hasn’t paid off! I think Ashley’s plan revolved around Rafa getting 30pts on the board by the end of January, force him out and bring a donkey like pulis in to finish the job with £0 investment. Now he has to find money to invest or get out of the club. I’m guessing he is staying in which case we will be frustrated with minimal investment.

  • Danimal

    I’ve just checked with Monkseaton Clarko and I can’t understand why you are so keen for change. Ashley is doing a wonderful job, providing us with a club to be proud of and extremely entertaining football that is the envy of the world.

    • Rich Lawson

      ”Net spend”,”Gross spend”,Arrrgh,my head is exploding for Xmas !!

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    i knew the knave wouldn`t blink first, he never does. all the talk about him being in a panic to sell was bullschitt. he will have got what he wanted, he may have compromised but the bottom line is, it`s acceptable to him
    until it`s official don`t rely on anything.

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    Rafa`s revenge,
    if we`d been mid table the odious Fat One would have held out for the £350m he wanted, being in the bottom 3 most likely cost him £50m

    • 1957

      I’ve always thought £300m was probably his bottom line, anything less he would just stay

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        he was never ever going to blink 1st

  • 1957

    It’s on, its off, its on again…

    The only thing I’m sure about is Staveley’s group would have to move towards Big Mike’s price not the other way around, the idea they could panic him into selling cheaply was absurd.

    If they do buy a priority should be improving the academy and bringing young players to the first team over the next 3 to 5 years. I’ve watched a lot of games under first team level over the years and the current group is one of the worst I can remember, there are no real stand outs despite what the Chronicle might have you believe. Why…poor scouting and selection to join and a clear lack of coaching. Watson and especially Beardsley seem clueless. The best prospect we had had for years up sticks to Everton and I doubt we’ll ever see Woodman as our regular No.1.

    • Peaky Magpie

      In Fatso’s eyes he’ll see Woodman as another Pickford.£30m + pure profit.

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    Rumour has it BetVictor came up with the extra £50m

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • Peaky Magpie

      Are yee trying to get Leazes gannin early today Moose ??? 😂

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        😁😁

    • Rich Lawson

      What’s the tax on that ?

  • ghostrider

    You know what; if that was the truth about them being in or out on the strength of Rafa, it worries me. Assuming it is the truth, obviously.
    Why does it worry me?
    Because it tells me that these people don’t have the readies that we think they have…to at least lavish on the club.

    Why’s that?
    Think about it…. If they had massive investment for the club and to revamp it then their investment would bring in almost any manager of their choosing, barring the one’s that are obviously already secure at moneybags clubs.

    If they see Rafa Benitez as the cog in their machine then I have a feeling that, if they take over, fans are soon enough going to be wishing that Mike Ashley was back being the miser.

    We could seriously end up doing a sort of Ellis Short type carry on where they go for a few hits and then call no joy.

    I hope to all hell that I’m 100% wrong on this but let’s be totally honest and people have a real think.

    If these people are major players and have the serious money then no way will they haggle over piddly amounts of money (to them), if their long term goal is to put this club into the high reaches of the elite.
    Think seriously about it.

    They would take the club and set about ensuring survival and then motoring on…not larking about and haggling over 50 million here and there or that Rafa stays, or a relegation clause.

    I just hope it’s speculative journalism at best, because if there’s any elements of truth in it, then my alarm bells are going to be ringing like a manic bell tower ringer.

    • Jezza

      Summing up, what you seem to be saying is you want Rafa out and Ashley to stay and a continuation of the club’s non existant transfer policy rather than new owners who will back Rafa in the transfer market. Are you really a Newcastle supporter?

      • ghostrider

        You summed up wrongly.
        And whether you think I’m a supporter or not is irrelevant to me and is no argument for you.

        I want Ashley to go but not for ALL the very same reasons as people like yourself.

        I understand that Ashley will always be a poison to many fans and that mindset does not help the club.
        Fickle fans will always be fickle fans at any club and once hate creeps in then hate stays but can be pacified for a while depending on achievement.

        Nobody (or very few) had a noose for Ashley when he bought in rafa and gave plenty of money for the championship.
        Hate on hold until the bad run started.

        That’s why I want Ashley out. He’s not only messed up but he is a constant easy scapegoat whenever things don’t turn out right.
        It’s not good for the mindset of the fans or the players or the club itself and especially Ashley, who is not a robot.

        I’m convinced he’s gave the fans some pay back for the hatred but I think he regrets the childishness of it, probably.

        Yeah yeah, I know I know, he doesn’t have feelings and he’s a monster and everything else.
        He wasn’t when he first came but we won’t go back down those avenues.

        So…anyway….I want him out but I only want him out if we get in some owners who are going to take us on an exciting ride upwards and not some rusty rollercoaster chancers that send us up and off the rails.

        I just hope the grass is not just greener on the other side but also maintained to be greener for a long time to come.

        • Jezza

          Are you saying I’m a fickle fan? Let me just ask you this, when was the last time you drove from Edinburgh to Southend on New Year’s Day to support a team at the bottom of the second division?

          • ghostrider

            Never, because I don’t live in Edinburgh.
            But let me just put this to you.
            Being fickle does not mean being able or unable to travel distance.
            Being fickle is accepting one thing when all is well or feels well and then throwing it back when all is not to your liking, then changing back as and when it suits.

            We are all fickle mate. All of us. Fickle in football and fickle in life.
            The difference in how fickle a person is is in their honesty in admitting the extent.

            I admire your support though but it doesn’t give you any more credence than someone who goes to home games who lives around the corner or someone who can’t afford to go due to distance or money and can only watch on TV or simply just buying merchandise that aids the club and listening to commentary on the radio.

            You see, neither person is sat in the board room or the dressing room.
            We are all outside looking in and making assumptions and best guess scenarios with everything.
            Plus a reliance (when it suits) on media speculation that is true when it’s a hate on Ashley and false news when it’s positive on Ashley.
            Work that one out in the fickle department.

          • thewildchimp

            Have to agree. A football dunce Ashley is, but a single person can botch only so much. We could’ve organised a serious protest but we didn’t. Instead we resorted to insults which made him lose interest even more. Maybe he wanted to change when we dropped divisions. Even if he didn’t – we surely didn’t let him. His move of not reinforcing the squad in January was a bold risk that paid off. Maybe he would’ve invested that money come summer but got fed up with our sh’t and decided to sell. Thus pocketing the money. Who knows?

            The bottom line is: we fans are also a part of the club, registered or not, going to the home, away or no games at all, Northerners or not, even Englishmen or not. And we answer for every poster, flag or a simple line in media like this.
            Ultimately, we all created a scenario where no one wins… Full restart is the best for everyone at this point.

          • nufcslf

            Seems the no wins has trickled on the pitch…..

          • Monkseaton Magpies

            Well done for that I was there and it ranks in my top five all time lows got beat four nil it was twelve o clock kick off and the only way I got a drink was to buy a meal in a posh place cost a fortune. Long way back for us never mind Edinburgh

        • hetonmag

          Ashley a scapegoat good grief have you been in a bubble for the last 10 years.

          • ghostrider

            He is a scapegoat.
            He’s messed up and all kinds but he’s a scapegoat for anything and everything that goes wrong, whether it’s him or not.

    • Damon Horner

      Do you think it’s a good thing to set a precedent as a free spender? That’s will impact every transfer going forward. Not to mention how Ashley conducted the Carroll transfer suggests that an asking price easily met might just mean increasing it again.

      • ghostrider

        No I don’t.
        I think Newcastle United being free spenders would set us up for a squad of mainly mercenaries.
        The thing is, what do the fans want?
        Do we want a club that plays around the bottom 5 or the top 10?
        Do we want a club that challenges for Europe or for cups?

        We either become a club with overpaid mercenaries aboard who actually provide us with entertainment and possible flirts with all kinds of silverware, or we become also ran for as long as it lasts, alternate to the money no object.

        Look at Arsenal.
        They consistently run with the pack but are always sniffing the rear end.
        We are a north east club. We are regarded as second class compared to the south.
        This means we have to entice the very same type of players Arsenal have by paying more in fees, both transfer and wages.
        It’s a sick thought but a true one.

        So we have a choice.
        Money no object owners that can right wrongs without a whimper and a manager that can effect it all, positively or we spend the future doing what we’ve been doing.

        My choice is more simple as of now.
        Football has been sold to the devil.
        If fans want real excitement and top players doing the business like Man City and such, then be prepared to accept the consequences of the inevitable when the excitement lasts for a short while before it all comes crashing down and expectations go up.

        The two are not mutually acceptable but that’s what we have to come with the blank cheques.
        I’ll take the money no object owners for some potential excitement of the rollercoaster.
        Ashley could keep this club rolling along but that’s all it would be and the fans hate him and there is definitely no other owners of his ilk that can run it better, in a way where we can compete, because those owners would be Ellis Shorts and we all know how that ends.

        • hetonmag

          Once again you are missing the point, we want to be able to compete and not be worried about what league we are going to be in every season. Under this regime this club has never been comfortable in the league in the last decade, remember we don’t take cups seriously statement.

          • ghostrider

            You’re missing my point.
            We are second class to the south.
            The south get the cream of the crop.

            To compete in this day against the moneybag owners means we must have moneybag owners or we simply dance for the elite each season until we get the chance to be known as the elite, which is when we have a spell in the championship and become the team everyone wants to play and beat.

            We either follow the devil and enjoy the fruits for however long, or we continue as also ran hopefuls, like most other teams.

            Newcastle United will soon have little nostalgia about it because the game of football that was once the working mans love and the young kids dream of being part of, is dying a death.

            It’s now about entertainment value and basically not a lot else, because there’s little left to identify with.
            We, as fans are becoming irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
            Can you imagine that?
            At one time we could argue “WE PAY YOUR WAGES AND WE EXPECT COMMITMENT.”
            The truth is the fans add about 30 million through the turnstiles.
            Imagine trying to compete with players on £250,000 a week.
            Just 2 players out of a full squad and that’s your annual turnstile income.

            So you tell me where we can compete with what’s going on when even Arsenal in the SOUTH are having to play rear up.
            So what do we want?
            I want some excitement before football is unrecognisable, so let’s get Ashley gone and hope to all hope that the new owners take us on a long exciting roller coaster ride with the ability to overcome hiccups for as long as it can be sustained.

            It’s getting less of a sport and more a showcase of idols that feel entitled.

          • hetonmag

            No no no Ashley has got us in this position of despair of no hope only when Rafa came along has fans got that little bit of hope again,and doesn’t matter how much you keep putting Rafa down he still has the backing of the majority of the FANS.

          • Tomb

            Where is the takeover party being held, if it happens? I vote for an all day booze up starting in the Bodega

          • ghostrider

            The majority of fans have every right to back him if they feel he’s doing a sterling job.
            I hope he ends up actually doing it in the future because we can’t dwell on or live in the past, which includes Rafa’s exploits.
            What counts is now and onward, with rafa or without.
            I’m not tied to one man, I’m tied to Newcastle United for life or until Newcastle United cease to exist.

            I’m not putting Rafa on a pedestal right now because he doesn’t deserve it, but if people think he does, then fine.

          • GToon

            Nicely put. The only thing we have in spades that the south, the midlands and anywhere else don’t is passion. Geordie passion. To play for our club is special. A player joining Liverpool for example and it’s all about Liverpool, whereas a player joining us if they became a success and it would be about them. That’s the lure. And the money of course!

          • ghostrider

            Aye, you’re right. One thing for sure the fans are loyal and fantastic and passionate.

        • East Durham Mag

          Do you really believe footballers stay at clubs for love or loyalty? Money talks all footballers are mercanary, some have bags of talent and some don’t. Our owners policy on spending aligns us with the latter. To think any footballers are anything other than mercenary is naive.

          • ghostrider

            Try and get a gist on what I’m saying instead of just jumping in like that.

          • East Durham Mag

            All footballers are just mercenary, but i agree i would rather have the rollercoaster and compete than this decade of sh*te from Fatty. I read your post in its entirety but just took in what i wanted.

        • GToon

          Perhaps the one thing in our favour is the Keegan years and evidence of how it could be for any future owners. A successful Newcastle United is the freedom to print money for its owner. It’s just a shame that Ashley couldn’t see that. If he’d invested a bit more of his wallpaper he could have even paid for an extension on his house never mind decorating it.

          • ghostrider

            You do have a point and it’s hard to argue with that.
            I honestly think he’d have pushed the boat out a bit if the Keegan debacle hadn’t of happened like it did.

    • Down Under Mag

      Despite the protestations of a number of short sighted “fans”, Rafa is one of the best managers in the game and i’m not exactly who you expect us to go for who would be any better that isn’t already at a club with much bigger current pulling power than we do. I think it is actually a VERY good move on behalf on any prospective new owner and it actually shows they understand more about what is going wrong than some so called fans of the club. Rafa is not failing because of his inability to win matches but because of Ashley failing to invest properly in players of sufficient quality. We have a Championship squad at best and they just can’t cut it in the top flight.

      There are a number of factors involved here. First, new owners will not want to announce their plans, or their financial power, before they have even taken over. Second, they can ensure they have a highly rated manage in place when they do take over and begin to invest. Lastly, if they do want their own manager in place then they can always replace Rafa when/if they do take over. If we sack Rafa and put in place some manager that will clearly not be good enough for them then they immediately have to sack them and create upheaval…I suspect keeping Rafa is a priority in order to make sure the team has some resemblance of continuity when they take over. The truth though is that none of us know what is happening and probably wont until the deal is done or they have officially pulled out.

    • hetonmag

      Anybody that is willing to buy a club for £300m has got serious money behind them, I mean could you see the greedy miser actually paying that sort of money for a football club. You my friend have a hidden agenda because you don’t want Rafa at this football club.

      • ghostrider

        I don’t care what manager we have at this club if he can manage.
        Rafa is not doing it for whatever reasons.
        Something’s went badly wrong somewhere with him.

        As for wanting him out. I want him to succeed but if he can’t then get him out.
        How long does he get and how many excuses is he allowed before fans actually see that he could be a problem?

        Let’s see what he does in January, hopefully after us gaining some points beforehand which I hope we do or we are in serious trouble.

        However….how long does he get from January, or will it be everyone’s fault but Rafa’s if he doesn’t get players in or gets the wrong ones?

        Let me tell you what my agenda is.
        My agenda is to watch a Newcastle united team play decent football with the potential to win any game they play and entertain even in defeat.
        What I don’t want to see is a team that is consistently played that all fans can see is not working and generally producing mostly dire football that gives much more joy to the opposition fans, whether we are home or away.

        If Rafa can sort his head out and the team and provide us with some decent football and a bit of hope, then he can stay for me.
        I just don’t think he’s the right man for this club.

        • thewildchimp

          Middle Easterners are like that. They mean business like the rest but they aren’t as calculated as Western Europeans. If they want something – they want it and that’s it. And they like to talk about football just as much as we do. A CL winning manager is simply another bragging right to them. Plus more likely to actually do the job.

    • GToon

      I think it’s more to do with the person they are doing the deal with rather than their own agenda.

  • Wiz

    George Caulkin wouldn’t have written a substantial article basically saying the two parties are inching closer unless he thought the deal being completed was pretty likely. Journalists, especially north-eastern ones, hate arousing hope in fans about current events, then only to dash it again. I obviously exclude the Chronicle’s staple stories about ‘loan deal for Jimmy Schitt back on’ and ‘Messi on United’s radar’.

  • 5floorshigh

    left leg in, left leg out, in out in out shake it all about……….its oh so exciting !

  • Dutch

    On recent performance and without Amanda Staveley working on a takeover,Rafa would also have been sacked by now. Not quiet sure what Amanda sees in the guy to be honest. Every other manager with the same track record would be out of a job. In his days he was probably the best manager going but now his ego filled methods are the reason where we are now.

    • Tomb

      He is a manager used to working with better quality players and has found it hard to get results with a side low on quality. If he does get money to spend then there can be no more excuses for bad results

      • nufcslf

        I agree that he deserves a chance with a new owner that would allow him the money to buy the player’s he wants. No excuses if that then goes pare shaped and the free fall continues. This will not stop me from probably having to look at our starting 11 tomorrow and wonder what the f**k he is thinking knowing it has yet another loss written all over it.

  • Mike

    Is Santa really coming to town? Hmmm somehow i dont think so

    • nevfur

      You’d better watch out…..lol

  • Tomb

    Dear the mag, the chronicle and other respected media outlets.
    Please do not post any more articles on takeover progress until the deal is done, then you can surprise us with a nice takeover completed headline and we can celebrate. All the is it isn’t it articles are stressful frustrating and meaningless

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    George is an idiot who knows it’s Monday or Tuesday or perhaps a Wednesday hate him and his paper with a passion. They love London full stop the North East to them is where the poor people live in mud huts.

  • Toontone100

    Ashley cant afford to let this opportunity pass him – he’s just trying to get as much as possible out of them. These things get protracted over small clauses – particularly where arrogance is a factor …. but he’d be insane to miss this opportunity and I dont believe he’s THAT insane. The suspense is killing … but it will happen, I’m convinced.

  • Albert Stubbins

    As they say in the states, enough already!!

  • nufcslf

    You can only hope not. She has the same chance fatboy had to build a team that pleases the fans. The fact that she could very well be the same really wouldn’t surprise me in the corporate twisted world we live in. Two pretty honest set of fans for tomorrow’s match, that have been sh*t on far too often by the idiots running the show. Pathetic.