Newcastle fans have a team that works as hard as it can, tries as hard as it can.

Look at them when they leave the field…exhausted.

However, I am sick and tired of some so-called Newcastle fans, and especially, so-called local journalists.

Maybe they are not the greatest players in the Premier League but they are our players, the best we’ve got.

The manager’s worked wonders with them, so please let’s support them, not have a go at them.

Confidence comes from those around us giving them everything, as they are giving us.

As for the so-called experts (journalist), who I’m sure have never played at a decent standard, if you can’t say anything constructive, say nothing.

I read after the Arsenal game that Elliot should have come and claimed the ball before it was brilliantly volleyed. So we have Batman in goal do we?

Joselu criticised, the guy won over twenty headers and linked play well.

But of course the press and many fans want Mitro…

Rafa doesn’t play him because he doesn’t work hard enough and is an accident waiting to happen.

I have heard so many criticisms of our players, much of which is unfounded. Sure they are not Man City or Man U, but they are Newcastle UNITED, and that is what we all need to be.

If Newcastle fans are unhappy, then direct your disapproval where it should go – the owner and board of this crazy club.

United we must be, for Rafa and the team.

To feature like Richard Birs submit your article to [email protected] and/or for more info go here



  • Mayor Vaughn

    Agreed

  • Little Pedro

    Totally agree, the position we are in is not through lack of heart it’s through lack of investment,

  • csh

    Can’t argue with this at all, but I’m sure the people it’s directed at will..

  • Buck Blacket

    Great article!

  • Dillon Tovak

    Off topic but….
    Jamie Redknapp just said Pardew likes exciting players, Bolasie, Zaha. Even at Noocastle he had some.
    He signed none of these exciting players haha.
    Pundits just make anything up to fit whatever point they’re fabricating today.

  • Mike Adam

    I am sick and tired of some so called Newcastle fans who defend every move that a manager makes, without question. That is my opinion, and it is my right to question decisions just as it yours to question my opinion. So defend Horselu and the number of headers that you counted, and I will continue to question why a player who has scored 31 goals total during his 8 year career gets so much playing time when others are not even given a run. Let’s just continue to agree that we disagree!!!
    And by the way, just because we question things doesn’t mean we are not behind the team. No owner, manager, or player is above question!!!

    • Buck Blacket

      It’s called trust Mike. Trust because he’s a top manager and his CV backs that up. Trust because he sees and knows everything we don’t. Have some faith in a world class manager who is widely regarded as one of the best tacticians in the game.

      • Mike Adam

        Having a hard time mate! Continuing to play Horselu way more than a player who has scored a total of 31 goals in an 8 year career makes it very hard. Then there is Slomo who adds absolutely nothing and continues to get time on the pitch as well as an occasional start. I could go on about his substitutions, or lack there of, and some of the players he brings on in situations. Is he playing for goal difference or just making sure we do not nick a point. No “world class” manager would make some of the substitutions he has made when down a goal, like against Chelsea, when he brought on Hayden for Perez in the 61st minute down “1” goal. Again, having a hard time mate!

        • Michael Smith

          you make some valid points and for being one of the top managers in the world his judgement seems to be off kilter.
          joselu is a lost cause & was from the day we threw away £5m signing him

    • David

      I think it’s how you question is the point. I sit with my ten year old boy in a ground where people are relentlessly barraging the players, for the slightest thing. It’s supporting good and bad and to be honest, it only adds to the pressure these players are already under. Yes opinions matter but not in disrespectful delivery.

      • Mike Adam

        And as I said above the manager is negative towards the players as well. I agree with you about the negativity during the match! During the match the team needs to be supported. I do my questioning on forums like this and in discussions with my mates.

        • Damon Horner

          Negative how? By saying he wants to trade in January? Guardiola said he will too. Ferguson famously kicked a boot of a players face and I bet there has been worse behaviour too, if that’s affecting the players then footballs not for them.

          • Michael Smith

            Guardiola has his eye on the champions league the league is a foregone conclusion

          • Damon Horner

            I’m not comparing respective goals, my point is no matter how good you are it’s not unusual for managers to say they want to strengthen

          • Mike Adam

            Granted, players are highly paid professionals, but Rafa has referred to the squad and the lack of spending over and over again in press conferences, that is certainly not positive. He doesn’t even give the entire squad a chance or run out to see if they can make a difference or not. Not Rafa or you or anyone else can say that they wouldn’t help without being played. I will continue to question, that is my right if I wish. No manager is above question!

          • Damon Horner

            Why bother questioning when the only person you want to hear from isn’t going to answer?

          • Mike Adam

            It is fun to discuss the club and managerial decisions with other fans who are respectful of opposing opinions my friend. That is what I use this forum for. I also can express my opinion which counts, because every fan deserves to be heard and their opinion is just as important as the next.

          • Damon Horner

            Agreed, definitely an interesting situation, I don’t think there is a clear solution in the squad though, I know you want every player tried though but would that include Barlaser, El-Mhanni and Longstaff?.

            January will be key without doubt for us.

          • Mike Adam

            Sure, “every player” at the manager’s disposal. Rather than keep sending out players who accomplish nothing!

    • David Goody

      You can question Rafa’s decisions all you like but what good will it do? It’s not like there is a better manager waiting in the wings.

      The mood on the terraces can transmit on to the pitch so wouldn’t we all be better off putting our energy into supporting the team?

      • Mike Adam

        So does the negativity of the manager!

    • anyobrien

      Totally agree the manager can never be beyond criticism but I do believe he will turn it around and we’ll be Alreet

    • Alieu Cham

      True true Mike. Some of the manager’s strange decisions feel like a defeat even before the games start and results are duly confirming that. I agree with most fans that Jo’s, Mang, Diame and Perez should nowhere near the eighteen much more the eleven. If Rafa is world class like everybody think he is he should be able to utilize our limited resources. I believe he is not doing that. It’s not rocket science to work out he should be able to find a way playing Hayden, Shelvey and Merino in the same team, most fans agree that Mbemba is a better left back than Mang and Dummet but he stubbornly refused to acknowledge that, Mitro is been our sharpest striker from preseason yet he can’t even get a start. I’ve noticed he is playing the players he sign but they simply not good enough.
      I never thought I’ll be saying this but Rafa is stubborn, proud and too defensive. We in trouble.

      • thewildchimp

        If you want H, Sh and M in the same starting 11 – it’s rather easy.

        CF: Mitro
        ST: Gayle
        CM: Merino, Shelvey
        DM: Hayden
        WB: 2 of the fittest from Ritchie, Dummet, Yedlin, Mbemba, Atsu, etc.
        CB: Lascelles, Clark and the 3rd depending on the opposition.

        Either work the ball slowly through the middle or hoof it to Mitro and then run. However, this would be a rather slow team with these players and it would be awful if caught out of possession. Good for some games, but not an answer against faster teams.

  • Arty Hume

    Problem is we go to a gun fight with a knife, we just lack quality, and yes its the owners fault AGAIN trying to run the club like his tacky S.D. shop’s, he will never learn and we fans will continue to suffer until his fat a$$ is kicked out of our club. I would happily take relegation if I knew this slug was out of our club and PCP took us over with Rafa as manager. Fat chance now, even fatter than the owner.

  • Almost totally agree. We always say we want a team that tries. Most of us will have experienced being outclassed in our school playground or in 5 a sides. This season, we have seen the level of quality that investment brings to our opponents. On the plus side, our young squad will learn from what they have seen and from Rafa.

    If a sale doesn’t go through, as things stand, the owner will see a profit of £50m or so, even if relegated. It is that level of profit that shows where our complaints should be directed.

  • Shipcote Willy

    Totally agree. Jermain Jenas said Rafa is overachieving with this squad and I agree. Looking at the bottom six teams very few of our players would get in their teams. I find it hard to believe if Rafa had picked this one or that one as his critics want we would be higher up the League. Of course he has made mistakes but every manager does. This team shows more effort and commitment but is not as good as the one that went down quality wise. I doubt we will have much if anything to spend in January and fear we will go down with Ashley in charge. Only Ashley could turn the optimism and goodwill of last last season into a pile of ****

  • anyobrien

    Agree 100%…lets stick together ffs… I’ve seen worse.

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    Hoss won 20 headers, whoopee, were did the ball go !
    i watched the whole match up front we were pathetic
    Elliott had no chance with that shot.
    Nobody want`s Rafa to leave, what we need is Fatso to open the till and buy some decent players & Rafa to put aside his petty grudges against certain players, ignore Fatso and get on with the job of survival

  • Soldier

    so criticism of the likes of Joselu, Diame & Manquillo & Perez are unfounded.
    does this guy go to the games or watch MOTD and reads the chronicle.
    i`m 28 yrs old and have had a season ticket since i was 18 and those 4 should not even be at a club like Newcastle United.
    i pay my money i`m entitled to voice an opinion

    • Mike Adam

      Yes you are mate, we all are!!!

    • justchampion

      It’s not the players fault if they aren’t good enough. It is the circumstances as to why they are here that’s the problem. Booing and behaving like a petulant 5 year old doesn’t help the cause.

    • Geordiegiants

      You are entitled to your opinion definelty, we all are, but I think you miss the point he is trying to make.

      • Mike Adam

        Explain the point to us please. Rafa has not been given the money to spend.

        • Geordiegiants

          The money he has had has not given him any choice in whom he signs. Jacob Murphy aside, he hasn’t had any decent money, he was obviously told he was getting some, then the rug was pulled. Probably because PCP came in close season and Jabba thought F it. It was Hoss or nobody for example. It’s not Rafas fault he had to buy shyte, that was all he could afford to buy or we didn’t have a striker. He made it very very clear he didn’t want/like/rate Mitro and wanted to sell him and get another player in. He wasn’t allowed, due again to Jabbas antics. He wanted to get rid of ginger Jack but was forced to keep him as well. Manquillo, he was THE only left back we had the chance/ could afford to buy. Rafa never had a choice really as we didn’t have one, so it was him or not have a left back. He had to fill his squad with poor quality players. Lejeune is another one £1.5 million, who else was he going to get for that money?

          • Mike Adam

            I agree with you my friend! About most of what you say. We are on the same side. But you cannot honestly defend every single poor decision Rafa makes. All managers make them and are questioned when they do! I will leave it at that because we disagree about Mitro, player choice and sustitutions and have talked those points to death. Let’s just hope that something changes come January!!!

          • Geordiegiants

            No I can’t defend every decision, because as I’ve said before, he will make mistakes, but I do back his judgement as he has proven over and over he knows what he is doing in the long run. Lets see what happens in January, when he hopefully has a bit of money.

          • Damon Horner

            Absolutely. Not big personally when it comes to blind faith but when you have a reputable manager embroiled within a boardroom power struggle then that’s the time for it.

          • Geordiegiants

            Exactly 👍

          • 1957

            Lejeune was £8.8m according to the Mag when we signed him not £1.5m

          • Geordiegiants

            I stand corrected you are right. He was £1.5 from Abu Citeh to Eibar. Still what we paid, that is chicken feed in the prem these days, and he is one of our biggest buys.

          • Mike Adam

            Just more shyte excuses that are incorrect!

          • thewildchimp

            Unless Colback was sent to train with the kids for a very good reason – it’s a huge insult.
            Well, why doesn’t Rafa quit the f’kin job? If you are unhappy, you can’t produce what is expected, promises aren’t delivered – say it clearly and loudly: “I think you should find another one for this job.” I wouldn’t blame him. But he perseveres, puts up the same sh*te week after week – when is enough? You know, maybe Pardew, McClaren, etc. didn’t have players of enough quality. Maybe it wasn’t their fault.

            Yes, it was, and now it’s Rafa’s. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not on Ashley’s side not even for a 0.000001%, but if your boss, who is paying you, comes and says: “Do it like this” – you either do it like that or quit and walk away. “I wanna play my kind of football, but bad boy owner is denying me” is not a solution. Like in war: you either adapt or you die. No philosophy. Football ain’t philosophy.

    • 1957

      Next year would have been my 50th with a season ticket, but if we are to be treated to more of the same from Benitez, bizarre selections, journeyman signings or the has been that is Fernando Torres, I’ll stick on 49.

      • Dave Pattinson

        Big decision 1957, and one I made myself after 42 years.My reason was because I was sick of continually giving Ashley my cash when he so obviously took us all for granted..or mugs. Can’t really judge Rafa fairly on because of the recruitment policies determined by Ashley & chums, but I understand your feelings. Once we aren’t under the thumb of Fatboy, I’ll renew.

        • 1957

          My problem with Benitez is this situation of not having the investment he needs happened everywhere he managed, albeit at the continental clubs it was an issue of clubs sometimes buying players he didn’t want.

          His transfer record at Liverpool was checkered, a few outstanding players mixed with expensive dross that barely got a game and journeymen that stopped young players getting a go. That doesn’t fill me with much confidence.

          • Geordiegiants

            Alex Ferguson’s history of expensive signings was checkered.

          • 1957

            But Ferguson was also prepared to give youth a chance, Benitez has an abysmal record of bring young players through, something that was subject of a piece in the Mag last year.

          • hetonmag

            Manure bought the league for quite a few years then bailed out when they could not rule the roost in the transfer market.

          • Geordiegiants

            Mourinho doesn’t bring youth on either, but he is still a good manger.
            We are having a bad run yes, but to be on Rafas back is foolish. Everyone started on him last season and look where we ended up then. He has his hand tied and is swiming against the tide. His educated opinion is Mitro isn’t good enough, I don’t hear much about anyone in for him or anyone banging down the door offering his supposed worth. If he was that good other clubs would of snapped him up, but they haven’t. Aaron’s has just been in court for fighting in town, his attitude is obviously not right. Yes Hoss is terrible, but to think that Donkovitic would make a big difference is madness.

          • hetonmag

            You keep on saying about Rafa’s record you must think he’s been one of the luckiest manager’s walking this planet, how he’s won the trophies he has is beyond me with all the mistakes he’s made. Just wonder why people in football hold him in such high esteem maybe you know something the so called experts don’t know.

      • Geordiegiants

        Are you trying to say that Rafas team selections are worse than the way you have been treat off Jabba for the last ten years? You are not going back for your 50th year because Rafa doesn’t pick or sign who you think he should?

        • 1957

          Over the last 10 years we’ve had some strange things happen at the club, mostly down to Ashley, but this is the worst set of players we’ve had at the club in those 10 years and for me that is down to Benitez policy of buying quantity over quality last season, he had control of transfers he told us, not Carr, not Ashley.

          If Benitez is still here he can buy or pick who he wants, but I also can disagree with those buys and selections and express my dissatisfaction by not renewing .

          In Rafa I Don’t Trust

          • Geordiegiants

            I agree this is probably the weakest team we have had in the last ten years. The thing is, Rafa has been charged with getting rid of the deadwood and bringing in players with negative income. Some of his players, Hoss for instance, he didn’t have any choice, it was him or nobody. He has many issues with Mitro, temperament, weight, attitude, mobility, his heed is like a fifty pence peice, no wonder he doesn’t trust him he was our main striker the season we got relegated. Our players now try a lot harder than the players we had when Rafa came in, they just don’t have to skill to back up their work rate. How can Rafa be to blame fully? I would take him ahead of any manager we have ever had under Jabba.

          • Mike Adam

            It is amazing how much you know about what goes on behind closed doors in the club. You come out with more and more shyte everytime you comment on here. More apologizing for the Messiah! And as far as Hoss, nobody, would have been better and playing Mitro and Gayle, we would be no worse off. And who knows maybe even better off. But we will never know because Rafa knows what Mitro can do on the pitch even though he won’t play him.

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    Pardspew is leading his team to another glorious defeat, wonder who`ll get the blame this time
    😂😂😂

    • Steve Smith

      Those overexpectant West Brom fans urging the team to attack!

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        Geordie John will go over & sort that lot out
        hard as nails and a propa Geordie, from Cruddas Park
        😁

  • 1957

    Interesting he doesn’t play Mitrovic because he is an accident waiting to happen, but can still play Hayden whose reckless tackling is likely to break Colback’s number of yellow cards in a season by the end of this one. The chances are at the rate he is clocking them up he will attract another ban by early new year.

    He excludes Mitrovic because he simply doesn’t see him as a player he wants, but to play him, and Mitrovic doing well, would make getting rid difficult to explain.

    • Geordiegiants

      Mitrovic was our main striker the season we got relegated, you think it’s unreasonable to try something different?

      • Mike Adam

        Something different isn’t working!!!! Horselu has never scored anywhere! Mitro is 23 and has scored in several other sides Anderlecht, Champions League (against Arsenal), and World Cup Qualifying. Just because he only scored 9 in 2114 minutes as a 20/21 year old his first year in the EPL, which isn’t bad, doesn’t mean he could not score goals for us this year. Horselu hasn’t in the past, doesn’t in the present, and probably will never do it in the future based on his goal scoring history!!! Rafa doesn’t know everything and doesn’t know whether Mitro could score for us this season or not because he doesn’t play him!!!

      • Mike Adam

        Sorry, I should have just let your Mitro comment go as we have been over this before.

    • Natturner26

      I think that Rafa had a big fight about selling Mitro before the season started. He is so upset that they didn’t sell Mitro and get him a new striker that he decided he would show them and not play Mitro at all this season. He’s forcing them to sell Mitro.

  • Sadman

    Excellent post. Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion we all need to get behind the team and give the lads the support they deserve.

  • ash1001

    Facts first 9 games = 14 points, second 9 games 1 =1 point, squad is the same for both, so where’s the blame now, 10 of the players yesterday were Rafa signings. am not saying any of these are any better that what we have but Krul, Mbemba, and Mitrovic, cast adrift.
    We have a scrape goat in Ashley (and yes he could have done more) so he gets the blame, but could it be that’s an easy way out because its Rafa at the helm?

    • Tony English

      Fact….without detail regarding opposition and circumstance.

      Apart from a creditable draw with Liverpool via a fluked goal, and scoring 3 against West Ham, the other points were won by narrow victories against poor sides.

      The second 9 games saw us face an in form Burnley and Chelsea Man U and Arsenal away, mostly without Lascelles martialing the defence, and 2 games lost to own goals….hardly Rafa’s fault.

      • Mike Adam

        I agree defensively, but in attack decisions could be different and some players could be given a run out, because those he continues to put out match after match are not producing. Also, he doesn’t even try certain players off the bench, or early enough in games to make adifference, very confusing.

        • Tony English

          You’re probably right, some decisions in an attacking sense questionable, but those left out aren’t through spite or stupidity on Rafa’s part. He just doesn’t believe in the back up players at all and clearly wants them out.

          • Mike Adam

            It is just ashame that he won’t give Mitro and Aarons a run like Horselu and Murphy/Atsu have received. Why??? they certainly cannot do any worse than nothing. I really hope they are both sold and are hugely successful at other clubs. Also, I hope Mitro has a great World Cup!!! Finally, we need something positive to happen real soon or we are in dire straits mate.

          • Tony English

            The Carthorselu is there to link up, hold up and make defenders release the ball quickly by pressing (a bit like John Carew done for Rafa at Valencia) he puts a shift in and is average at best…but Mitro cant do that job, it’s unbelievable that he’s still at the club, he doesn’t fit the game the gaffer wants to play.

            Aaron’s, I agree should be given a run out, but do any of us really know his game? He’s never really had a run yet.

          • Mike Adam

            No disrespect, but I disagree on Mitro. I think that he can do that job and is better at it than the Spanish Donkey. Few give him credit for his hold up play and getting others involved, in my opinion. He was third on the team in assists last year behind Shelvey and Ritchie, only two assists behind the leader in one third of the playing time.

          • Natturner26

            Joselu’s link up play is incredibly poor. He is a very poor passer. Almost gifted Arsenal an early goal yesterday with a shocking short sideways just inside our own half.

  • hetonmag

    Absolutely brilliant post ok people have opinions but some calling player’s useless when they are trying their best is quite frankly awful, and as far as the manager goes people wanting rid of him just beggar’s belief who else are we going to get, other manager’s are out of work for a reason.

    • Damon Horner

      Back him/sack him is down to faith in absent players. The likes of Mitro would need to either perform to an unprecedented level while wearing our shirt or unpredictably provide a better balance if paired with Gayle. Personally and I won’t be alone, it’s not likely to be much different. We have to sign players.

    • Mrkgw

      Keep happy clapping. Quite clearly the type easily exploited by MA and his noxtious bunch of incompetents.

      • hetonmag

        Just read on another post that you are convinced we will get relegated and you call yourself a supporter giving up in December, been a happy clapper as you call me since the day’s of Westwood and never once gave up hope.

        • Mrkgw

          I”m a supporter, I assure you. But that doesn”t mean that I will accept anything less than our club deserves. Of course, we will lose games as we did during the days of Keegan and SBR for example. But, our club was adequately equipped with sufficient quality to turn things around. Nothing should have changed there. Wind forward to Mike Ashleys era and he has diminshed expectation, eliminated hope. You can’t deny that surely. We can’t even hold our own against distinctly lesser sides. Consequently, given this current run of results, I cannot and will not applaud failure. The players pick up a decent salary and took positions within the walls of St James knowling full well that they had a job to do. That doesnt make them immune to a bit of criticism. That also applies to Rafa whose treatment of one or two players isnt good. Nor, is his team selection or signings. Give me something decent, or light at the end of this long and miserable tunnel and I might just raise a glass and applaud them. At this present time, they do none other than fail us.

          • hetonmag

            I’m not and never have been an Ashley apologist I dislike the man with a vengeance, but I will back this manager and the team he picks to the hilt if that makes me a happy clapper then so be it.

          • Mrkgw

            Nothing wrong with supporting the team or, clapping if you wish. But, it is unjust to question critics support due to the fact that Rafa or his team aren’t delivering. They take the salary – we all do and if we arent up to the job then expect questions. Simple as. I’m not happy with the side or, Manager at this precise moment in time. Can I change my allegance and support another club? No. If only it was that simple. Moreover, why should I?

  • Grahame Johnson

    I have left a good few games when the hate and anger got to much, I have gave a good home to a scarf and hat discarded by our own fans, I’ve walked away from the ground disgusted with peoples opinions, alas its still the minority. I sit with a canny bunch of lads and lasses in the gallowgate block u and I must admit the singing section stops me heating the stuff other fans hear around them. The first game I went to was in 1973 I’m 52 and still love Newcastle United that’s the problem with love you accept all emotions that go with it, oh by the way I’m looking forward to man city game and seeing their merry mob of world class world cup bound players, its a rumor that they are good but before and after the game my colours are black and white always have and always will be

  • Tony English

    Anyone who thinks Rafa is the problem has a very short memory.

    Shopping in Ashleys bargain basement there is a chance for every Merino we’ll get lumbered with a Diame, a diet of hard fought slim victories, mixed with slim defeats and the odd hiding is the best we can hope for.

    Unless Amanda’s ship comes in we will be living off scraps for the foreseeable future…and another Kinnear level appointment no doubt.

    • Geordiegiants

      Very true, I don’t think people realise what would of happened had it not been for Rafa.

      • Phil Yare

        what would have happened? we would still have been relegated to the championship
        we went down
        we went up
        we will go down again

        • Natturner26

          Exactly. I think people forget how terrible we were to watch last season even though we were spending a ridiculous amount more than all of the clubs we were playing. We were not a championship team spending-wise despite all of the fans who say we are still one. Rafa had a premiership team in the championship and barely nicked the title after the late season collapse of multiple other clubs. I thought if we had to go through the playoffs we would stay down.

        • Geordiegiants

          We wouldn’t of come back up as easy, we could quite easily of ended up where the inbreds are now.

    • Damon Horner

      I think it wouldn’t be half as bad if he proved to fans Mitro is ineffective.

      • nevfur

        Yep, we are losing and not scoring. How could it be worse with Mitro given a chance? If he is awful or gets sent off Rafa has proved his point but if that means we lose that game what’s the difference? We can’t score or win at the moment anyway

        • 1957

          If he plays well and even scores its a plus for the club, we might gets some points, but then again that would mean Benitez may have been wrong for the last 9 games…and he couldn’t be wrong could he?

  • toonterrier

    Instead of buying ten average and untested players it would have made more sense to buy two or three with the experience of the Premier League and maybe held on to some of the ones we dumped. Definitely not all Rafa’s fault but he must have some input into the decisions made

    • Phil

      We haven’t signed proven premier league players for years! That’s not through choice. That’s through fat Mike being so tight and clueless

    • Nobody half-decent enough with Prem experience will come to Newcastle to fight for their survival in the Prem. We can now only hope to attract foreign players like Merino who are not first choice in their teams. Merino proved OK and Murphy is getting better, but we really don’t have the luxury of making bad buys. The team that got relegated with Rafa last time was overall a better team than we have now(sans Lascelles, Merino and Gayle)

    • HarryHype59

      100% agree fella! We needed quality not quantity!

  • Phil

    Bournemouth getting beat 3-0 at half time!! Wonder how many of their fans want Eddie Howe sacked??
    Not many I’d imagine. As they are realistic.
    We are a newly promoted club… Again. We are not the entertainers. We are not the young dynamic side Sir Bobby put together. We do not have big Al to rely on week in week out.
    We do have a top class manager with a team of MOSTLY grafters. We will not win anything this season we will not achieve anything. Apart from staying in the EPL and eventually getting rid of fat Mike one way or another.
    Not one person moaning and twisting about Rafa has came up with an alternative. He is by far the best we can hope to have. And we have got him so shut up and let the bloke do his job.
    Before anybody says he isn’t immune from criticism I am well aware of that. But as I say he is the best we could hope for

    • Phil Yare

      Bournemouth are about 100 times smaller than newcastle united. you could probably buy the ground for about 3 million

    • thewildchimp

      No. The team with Coloccini, Steven Taylor, Sissoko, etc. didn’t have a run this bad. You just can’t tell me the players were better then. Watched some extended highlights of the games I missed: it’s down to the lads having no confidence, no ideas, nothing to build upon while attacking so they just pump the ball up – the gaffer has to sort it out. He’s the one responsible and that’s final. He can moan all he wants but the bottom line is – he isn’t doing his job properly. What would he do if he had last year’s Mackem team? Commit suicide? Hudd and Brighton are playing a lot better with worse teams, player-for-player.

  • The players do what they can on the pitch, but most are just not up for this level. I see a lot of players not having enough movement off the ball and not tracking back properly. This is not about the manager, but the lack of effort and the lack of motivation to do so. This goes especially for our midfield who should all be doing box to box, but don’t chase and don’t make runs. Ashley made a huge gamble with a team that barely won the Championship to kinda stick in the Prem without investment, since the only Premier League player brought was Atsu who was already on the books.
    Our only goal is to sell as many players as we can come January and get as many quality additions in. Problem is that I don’t think quality players will come with that huge chance to get relegated. Your position in the table and ambition drive quality players to come here, and right now we don’t look like attracting proven players, but will have to gamble on talents from the Championship/Prem second string or go for foreign players who are not first choices in their own teams.

  • Phil Yare

    fair enough. but remember we are under performing compared to promoted brighton and huddersfield.
    and we have the advantage of a world class manager and 52,000 at home plus a hell of a lot more premier league experience since its beginning.

  • Wor Lass

    The Mitro thing has become academic because it`s clear Rafa will just never play him but it is simply baffling that, when we can`t score for love nor money, we continually leave out a player who has scored consistently at international level for over a year. I can only assume that there is something in the background that explains this but which we`re not privy to. At least I hope so. If it`s to do with temperament then why keep playing Jonjo?

    • Mike Adam

      It isn’t about temperment, because Jonjo is way worse, and Hayden is a reckless hacker who is piling up the yellows. Way more than Mitro! The temperment thing is an excuse, as is the practice excuse. The players he continues to march out match after match do nothing! So why don’t Mitro and Aarons get runs??? Well I hope the both get out now, in January for their own good.

  • Phil Yare

    if Joselu won everything and linked play really well then how come we spent 95% of the game in our own half?

    • Mike Adam

      It is a joke, who couldn’t win headers against the short Arsenal side. But what resulted from all of those wonderful headers???? Nothing, as usual.

  • HarryHype59

    “The manager has done wonders with the players”

    Actually, he hasn’t and that is why we are now in the bottom three!

    • Geordiegiants

      I think we are about where we all thought we would be at the beginning of the season. Why turn on Rafa, his team are working their socks off? Did anyone expect anything different with these players?

      • HarryHype59

        Like many fans, I knew we would struggle due to Ashley’s penny pinching! However, I expected smarter signings and better team selection and tactics!

        • Geordiegiants

          Like I’ve said in other posts, I don’t think he had much if any choice on who he could sign, I think budget picked his players not him. His opinion on selection is different to some fans yes, but he is a proven top class manger and easy decisions are what Pinocchio, charver and Tufty used to do, it’s what sets him apart from other mangers, exactly the same as Sir Bobby, he used to get no end of stick about his team selections.

  • Andy Mac

    OK so I hear those fans who think we’re doing as well as we can under the Fatman’s regime however my question to you people is, If Rafa thinks Mitro is a complete waste of space as a player and wouldnt start him even if we were down to 5 players then wtf didnt he ensure he was first out of the door in the Summer ?

    If Mitro is so disruptive to the rest of the squad he should have been made available for £10m or less with future add ons and then shown the door. The MAJOR CRITICISM OF RAFA comes from having a player (the like of whom we badly need on the pitch) sitting scratching his R’s for most of this season.

    THAT IS DOWN TO RAFA NOT FATMAN !

    • Mike Adam

      Absolutely Andy!!!!! But the Messiah can predict results without the player actually even playing!

    • Martin

      Mitrovic was up for sale in the Summer but no-one offered an amount that was acceptable to the club ie Fatty not Rafa.

      • Mike Adam

        Not playing him, ie the Messiah.

      • Andy Mac

        Sorry Martin but we dont know that for sure. However as I said before if Rafa didnt want him at all then it was in his best interests to convince Fatman to take the money offered (if indeed there was any) rather than leave a player picking up wages without a chance of playing ?

        Maybe poor old Mitro is suffering as a result of Rafa’s spat with Fatman with neither wanting to budge ? If so that’s another sad indictment of this club and how it’s run ?

        • Geordiegiants

          We do know for a fact, Rafa hasn’t wanted him since he came and NOBODY wants to pay what he is supposed to be worth. It says it all, and certainly no premier league club would want him.

          • Popnbgd

            You might recall that statement “no premier league club would want him”. Anyway,you are missing a big point mate…Let’s not try to make this all about Mitro…Rafa not playing a MItro is just one of many many issues that makes fans question Rafa’s work….Rafa has it easy so far…It is always someone’s else mistake and your lack of healthy criticism and dog-like obedience to Rafa is not helping the team..

          • Geordiegiants

            I fully agree Mitro is not anything to do with the problem. My “dog like obedience”, is down to the fact everywhere he goes his methods always divide fans, the thing is he always comes out on top, in other words he has won a trophy at nearly every, if not every club he has ever been at.

          • Popnbgd

            He doesn’t…Actually he might be the only coach in history that got relegated 2 times with 2 different clubs…I am not saying he is a bad manager…On the contrary,he has proved himself by winning numerous titles but that doesn’t necessarily mean he can do no wrong and that he is a right fit for Newcastle…It wouldn’t be a first time that a world class manager didn’t click with the club he manages…I really haven’t seen any improvement or positive effect since Rafa took over…

          • Geordiegiants

            First season, 10 games no chance, but nearly kept us up.
            Second season win the league with a £40million pound surplus.
            Third season, keep us in the premier league with a championship side and £11m budget, we can only judge at the end of the season.
            A manger that isn’t a yes man and challenges our dictator. We have rid of all of our deadwood, our crazy board room gone and our top class scout chased out, a fan base that is behind a manger for the first time, players that actually try. Yes we are on a bad run, but we have a long way to go.

          • Popnbgd

            Don’t forget the fact that Rafa got sacked from Real,Inter,Napoli,Liverpool…He is no angel and is controversial figure and bit of egoistic and always wants full control over all aspects of club …Similar to Mourinho…He tends to divide supporters with his policies and cause internal problems and create negative atmosphere that affects the results…

          • Mike Adam

            Real Madrid?

          • Mike Adam

            And you know that how???

    • hetonmag

      He wanted to sell him but Ashley wanted the money back what they paid for him, and also their wasn’t exactly a queue for him was there.

  • X,WHY,Y MAN.

    Three Card Tick Merchant, That’s all that can be said !

  • Popnbgd

    I am getting fed up with “In Rafa we trust” muppets that consider Rafa to be some kind of deity and divine coach that can’t be criticized…The truth of the matter is Rafa miserably failed to create a good team chemistry and his constant complaining about lack of quality of his own players are doing a big harm to the team…Team looks lifeless,players morale is at the all time low and it seems they lost confidence and belief in themselves…There is no character or any spirit left in the team and it’s always everyone’s but Rafa’s fault….I am not saying he is an awful manager but he is just not a right fit for NCU….We all know that Ashley has played a big part in team’s bad performances but it is very cowardly and immature to blame it ALL on Ashley…Rafa has a couple of big personality flaws,he is no real leader and is awful in developing young players and not flexible enough…When it comes to Mitro,if there is a player in this world that deserves second chance,it is Mitro…His love for the club,passion and fighting spirit is something that NCU desperately needs and could be a major x factor and boost for the team…He has never gotten a real chance to prove himself and he doesn’t have discipline problem in national team.He is very young and passionate and one of the reasons for red card issues is he knows he is not trusted and respected and that creates tension and makes him unnerving…I bet you Mitro cares a way more for NCU then Rafa and majority of players and he didn”t deserve to be disrespected by Rafa…

    • Mike Adam

      There are no card issues, that is a made up false excuse.

    • Geordiegiants

      Who is NCU????
      Rafa has made it very very clear he doesn’t want Mitro, nobody wants to buy him for what he is supposed to be worth.

      • Popnbgd

        You must be living in a paralell universe mate…When did Rafa make it “very,very clear”he doesn’t want Mitro…???? I might have missed that press briefing when Rafa has actually spoke his mind and was being straightforward and honest….

        • Geordiegiants

          So not playing him at all for 2 seasons is not making it very very clear?

          • Popnbgd

            Why he doesn’t just say it then?Instead he use empty rhetoric and demagoguery

          • Geordiegiants

            Howare are you kidding??? He is getting slaughtered for suggesting his team needs improving, can you imagine if he came out and said Mitro is shyte?

          • Mike Adam

            Then if he was honest, he would need to come out and say that Horselu, Perez, Slomo, Manquillo, and most of the team are shyte.

          • Popnbgd

            “Slaughtered” is a grossly exaggeration…and it is not about his “suggestions that team needs improving”…It is about his constant crying and complaining about his own players qualities and mediocrity and using this as an excuse for team’s bad performances…He has destroyed his players belief,confidence and team spirit and chemistry…and players feel it…I guess He lost his magic a long time ago…

    • 1957

      Benitez cares about Benitez. When his bizarre selections and his poor quality signings relegate us he will jump ship and move into another job where he’ll have a honeymoon period before complaining of not being backed by the owners. It happens at every club he manages.

      If he had gone for quality over quantity last season we still would have got promotion and been in a better shape this year.

      As far as Mitrovic is concerned, I don’t think he is the answer but we will never know because Benitez won’t risk being proved wrong. Mitrovic is though streets better than Hoss.

      • Geordiegiants

        He does seem to have board room struggles, but he still wins trophy’s.

        • 1957

          With the existing squads though, Liverpool apart he’s never been anywhere for more than 3 years and bought his own squad of players.

          • Geordiegiants

            That shows he is a good manger then I would say. He can go into a club with what he has and win, I’m not saying he is never wrong, I’m saying in the end he always seems to get it right.

          • 1957

            It shows that if he goes into a club with good players he can get results yes but not that he has the nous in the transfer market to build a team within a budget, at Liverpool he seemed a bit of an Oliver Twist character. He spent £17m -£18m on Aquilani who flopped then complained he wasn’t being backed when a sell to buy policy was imposed on him.

          • Geordiegiants

            I wished he had a sell and buy policy here.

          • Albert Stubbins

            Only fergie and Wenger have created their own teams FFS. All managers who won trophy’s have existing players from the previous manager. The fact Rafa inherited Gerard and carragher doesn’t mean that he can’t take the acclaim for winning the cup. Does that mean that Bob paisley was useless as well because he only won thirteen cups because he inherited all those class players from shankly? Silly argument. All managers need good players to win anything end of story.

        • Mike Adam

          He has won trophies. Only time will tell if he wins any more.

    • Phil

      He has tried to sell mitro. There is no charade there. He doesn’t want him but it would appear nobody else does either. If he’s such a talent where were the bids in the summer?

      • Popnbgd

        No one will pay such a high price for a player that never plays for his team and has only 89 premier league minutes this season…

        • Mitros gotta start

          Yup…..another reason for giving him a few starts….get him in the shop window and get the best price you can if you want rid….rafas handling of players beggers belief

      • Popnbgd

        You don’t pay a hefty price for someone that doesn’t have any significant playing time…

        • Geordiegiants

          It didn’t stop stoke buying and paying good money for Berhaino. Mitro isn’t good enough man nobody else wants him either. He’s supposedly good enough with the internationals why are no foreign teams in for him? Money isn’t the reason as £10/15 million isn’t expensive for a top international striker these days.

          • Mitros gotta start

            Probably because he has hardly played in 2 seasons….if Rafa wants rid he will get a better price if he puts him in the shop window….but he is too pig headed and stubborn to even do that.

  • nevfur

    Rafa isn’t above criticism and some of it appears valid. As long as it stays on here. At the game whether you love him or hate him, want him in or out, or agree with the line up or not all we can do is get behind ALL of the players in our shirt and support them as loudly as possible to hopefully perform above themselves because that’s the only way we might get out of this mess to avoid relegation then see how things go.
    Always supporting the lads.
    Howay let’s stick together at least at the games and show our class in playing our part in this fight.

    • Mike Adam

      Even though I question many of Rafa’s decisions I agree that at the games we need to support the lads no matter what! Then question after.

  • Anita kick up the Hoop

    God forbid a football supporter shoul as valid questions of a manager .. We all know that we are supposed to shout “toon toon” and be wacky like those crazy lot on soccer am

    • 1957

      Maybe that’s what encouraged him to come to NUFC, did he think we were so desperate we wouldn’t question what he did.

  • Phil

    Nobody questioning and slating Rafa has came up with the name of the guy to replace him yet??

    • Mitros gotta start

      I did…..howe….silva….dyche…..anybody that will play decent attacking football and will have a go instead of all the negativity….and before you say it if the takeover goes through we will have NO problem getting a new manager.

      • Chris

        Attacking football? With this squad? We’d have even less points than we have now.

      • Phil

        Howe. Does a decent job with Bornemouth. But no world beater. Silva. He is a brand new coach who hasn’t proved himself yet. Dyche. That’s your funniest one if you are after attacking football. Majority of his games are won 1-0 or drawn 0-0. This indicates he isn’t exactly all about attacking.
        So good candidates. Well thought out

        • Mitros gotta start

          Majority of his games are won 1-0 or drawn 0-0….
          Yes please….better than the clueless spanish waiter that has 1 point from 27!
          Idiot!

          • Phil

            We have lost a lot of games by 1. Which shows we are in games. Just not getting the look or taking chances. Everton game perfect example.
            Dyche winning by small margins isn’t attacking football like you said…. IDIOT!!
            To call Rafa clueless shows what kind of football fan you are! Brain dead

          • Mitros gotta start

            He is clueless in his team selection…clueless in how to motivate a team….clueless in how to work with the squad he has at his disposal….clueless in buying players….probably the reason he has been sacked so many times…..he isnt the right man to get us out of this mess and i wouldnt trust him to build a team if he gets money to spend….like you he is clueless

          • Phil

            Clueless? In a group of elite managers. Yet he is clueless.
            It’s the likes of you that have sucked the life out of going to St. James’ with all of your negativity and mental ideas.

          • Mitros gotta start

            Nah….rafa has managed that on his own…..and for an elite manager he sure has been sacked alot

  • Phil

    When it comes to mitro. The only manager in football who wants the guy is the manager of Serbia.
    Rafa does not play him and no other manager in the game has bid for him
    He is not the answer. Get over it

    • Popnbgd

      This is not about Mitro…It is about Rafa…

      • Phil

        In your earlier statement a lot of what you wrote was about mitro!!
        Anyway if it is about Rafa and he is such a bad manager! Who next?

        • Popnbgd

          I am in no position to influence club’s policies and decisions…I wonder what would happened if someone else manages the club at this moment and with a same results as Rafa.I am sure no one would be praising the manager or blaming it all on player’s qualities and lack of money….Rafa didn’t get sacked from Real,Inter,Napoli,Liverpool…etc for no good reason…

          • Mitros gotta start

            Preach brother….preach

          • Phil

            He didn’t get jobs at real, inter, Napoli or Liverpool for no good reason either. He is in an elite group of managers. Yet we have a large group wanting him out. People mentioning Eddie Howe as a replacement for him?? Jog on man

    • Jaffa

      Could argue that Shelvey is just as big a liability as Mitro yet he gets plenty of starts, Joselu an Diame aren’t working so why not try something else ?

      • Phil

        That is a very valid argument. Shelvey is a liability.
        I don’t know why mitro isn’t getting his chance. I trust Rafa though.

        • Chris

          Shelvey was responsible as a catalyst for many of our goals in the Championship. He was one of our best players. Mitro can’t even get into the squad, moves slowly, and misses sitters. Yes, they both get red cards, but one obviously brings a little more to the squad. It’s fairly obvious, no?

          • Down Under Mag

            I think Mitro is far too over-rated by too many fans of this club. I will guarantee that if he played and didn’t do anything then those same fans would turn on him so quickly it would give most people whiplash.

  • Toontone100

    “United we must be, for Rafa and the team”
    Couldn’t have put it better ! Clear the negativity & the lads will play a lot better – regardless of the ability they lack – and if we play as good as we did against Arsenal we wont be going down. Howay man – get BEHIND the team !