The Newcastle takeover talk didn’t exactly get to boiling point on Tuesday but there were definite signs that things could be warming up.

All of the major newspapers and Sky Sports had their say/angle and unless they are all wide of the mark, there does appear to be a clear understanding/consensus as to the gap that needs to be closed.

Leaving Mike Ashley and Amanda Staveley to one side for a moment, one aspect that looks definite is that there are no rival bidders to Staveley and her investors.

Despite claims of up to five different bidders at one point and then reports of a number of them signing non-disclosure agreements (NDAs), nobody in the media has been able to point towards the identity of any of these phantom potential buyers, and indeed now nobody in the media is even seriously mentioning that there is any other show in toon.

The figures that are now being universally quoted are the Amanda Staveley speculators wanting to pay £250m, whilst Mike Ashley wants £300m minimum.

Despite all the talk of trying to buy/sell mid-season being problematic with relegation fears an issue in particular, the fact that the Ashley valuation appears to have come down from the £380m/£400m mark to around £300m has to give encouragement that a deal is possible.

For those sceptical that Ashley had any intention at all of selling, if he’d been entrenched on that kind of price (£380m/£400m) then certainly we were all wasting our time in hoping for possible change.

A willingness to negotiate has never been part of the Newcastle owner’s make-up in the past, whether in regard to a potential sale of the club or anything else.

I think we can take it as read that Ashley has shown indications of this (movement on price), as if the Sports Direct supremo was saying it was simply take it or leave on his valuation, there is no way that Amanda Staveley and her backers would have sustained their interest.

Whilst there is still a lot of scepticism as to whether a deal could be agreed before Christmas, or even during the season whilst the relegation issue clouds things, there is positive reporting on Wednesday morning that a relatively quick deal could be agreed.

Craig Hope who covers Newcastle United for The Mail says via his Twitter account: ‘If Amanda Staveley returns with offer of £300m for NUFC then Mike Ashley will listen & it is likely that deal can be done’.

This is on the back of his latest Newcastle takeover article where he says there is currently a stand-off between the two sides and that Mike Ashley definitely wouldn’t go near the £250m offer that was made over two weeks ago by Amanda Staveley and rejected by Ashley.

The Mail article also says that claims of any deadline imposed on the Staveley offer are wide of the mark and they will not walk away if the £250m isn’t eventually accepted.

It looks, and you would hope, that now the formalities have been completed and the opening moves have been made and countered, that the two sides are now ready to get down to the sharp end of things and do the deal.

Despite all the bluster from both sides, the two parties still look as though they definitely want the deal to happen and will both go some way surely to meeting somewhere between the £250m and £300m figures.

You feel that the final cards are set to be turned over and that can’t come soon enough.



  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    £300m,
    then the Fat knave will empty the till of around £30m & head down to the Nags Head for a few bevvies with the boys

    • HarryHype59

      Fat knave, makes me chuckle that!

      • Leicester Mag

        Here’s a thought why not put the fat knave in the skip as well? Is there’s room that is

        • MichaelMaximusMoose

          Or a wood chipper

          • Peaky Magpie

            I would give it a go mind you if I can get another 11 volunteers to help me lift the fat f***er !

          • Damon Horner

            Probably need the right safety equipment to handle toxins. You’d have and would need more than 11 volunteers though.

          • Peaky Magpie

            52k applicants in the last 20mins and still counting ! He carries more toxicity than Chernobyl and my missus mother’s gob put together !!! 😂👍

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Jesus Christ, mastermind us missing it’s contestants

          • Peaky Magpie

            Not great grammar there mind ??? Us not is ! Go back to to Ashley pillows.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Not grammar, just spelling ☺

          • Peaky Magpie

            Whatever

        • Tel Boy Telboy

          He would not fit in the skip lol.

  • HarryHype59

    Defeats to Leicester and. Everton will further weaken the Fat lads hand!

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      We are the loyalist football supporters…….well, some are

  • Leicester Mag

    If it helps I’d happily rent a skip for all the direct sheet adverts blighting the ground. Can also throw in a [email protected] 20 quid hockey stick wife bought there for son. Like £4M for a C.F. you buy cheap tat you get cheap tat.

  • Arty Hume

    Other rival bidders lol’s just more lies which we have come to expect from the owner and his team. I pray we see the back of him and his crew soon.

  • Kneebotherm8

    Roll on the departure date for the fat twt,it can’t come quick enough.

  • mactoon

    There are a lot of ‘facts’ flying around considering a Non Disclosure Agreement is in place. The clue is in the name, no one knows what is happening because no one can release any details.

    • Bernard Cribbins’ Love Child

      Exactly. The Ronnie Gill’s constant updates are utterly ridiculous. No one knows anything so just wait for actual news.

      • Peaky Magpie

        Ryder believes anything from other press and then just makes things up and adds bits on.He probably thinks a Roger Melly is a real bloke !

    • FatParosite

      Facts or lack of them can be used both ways. Ashley is currently leaking the “other bidder” propaganda that isn’t fooling anyone. Which leaves us all with elemental predictability based on past behaviours. This is not the chuck in another 50 million to get it over with assertion made by some geriatric in Monkseaton. We are all deducing many things. One thing is for certain Ashley is gambling again & on past behaviour he loses more than he wins.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        If they are serious in buying the club they should get the deal done and be in place for the January transfer window. With the increased. T.V. money in the next few years £50.0m is small beer. If this is the way they do business transfers will be a long drawn out process and it could take till the summer to get players in the speed with which the prospective owners work.

        • TheFatController

          Why do you keep appealing to her vanity by shaming her with ‘if you were rich like you act you’d be able to pay £400m’ taunts, when she doesn’t read your comments ?

          It’s not like she’s reading this in bed telling her husband ‘I’ll show that Monkseaton magpie, tomorrow I’ll up my bid. No one accuses me of being a fraud and doesn’t get shown I mean business..’

          Even if she does read your comments, I doubt she lives in fear of your constant disapproval of her financial power ….

  • 1957

    It’s a nice thought that Mike realising Staveley might be his only chance of getting rid of the club has decided to drop his valuation by £80m but I just don’t see it. What conditions might he attach to this lower price deal…free advertising for SD, a merchandising agreement for a period of time or some additional future payment based on a level of success.

    This man thinks only about himself, he can be trusted.

    • Alex

      If he doesn’t sell now, his asset drops 50% in value. It’s quite simple for him.

    • Geordie-7676

      Would anyone really complain about a few years free advertising if it meant he was no longer running the club?

      Of course we want rid of every thing SD ASAP, but if that’s a sacrifice that would be needed, then i for one would be more than willing to make it!

      • Damon Horner

        Yup, if no sale is agreed we have Ashley and SD, granted it’s better fine but if it needs to be a compromise then I’d begrudgingly take it. It won’t be forever.

    • Virsino

      There will be no conditions of advertising at St. James Park – any deal will be a complete break from the previous owner. What idiot in their right mind would pay 250+million and keep in place a system that prevents the realisation of higher advertising revenues.

  • TheFatController

    I’ve made my points elsewhere that basically say It’s Staveley in the strong position because a deal must be done and she’s the one with the money. And money talks, as they say.

    But even if a deal is done in time for January, I still expect Ashley to sell Merino and Lascelles to Chelsea at a London pub meeting with Abramovich ‘on a free’ the day before he has to hand over the keys….

    • Jezza

      I’ve got no doubt that in the highly unlikely event that was a takeover to go through, Ashley would sell any players he could beforehand to walk away with a few extra million in his back pocket. To be fair though I can’t see Chelsea being interested in any of our players. None of our first team would even make the bench for Chelsea’s reserves.

      • Geordie-7676

        Any sales of players during an active takeover process would need to be disclosed to the purchasing party, which would require their approval or an adjustment to the buying price.

        Imagine it as buying a house which comes fully furnished. You agree the price, secure the mortgage, start the paperwork and then the seller decides to sell the cooker, fridge and 3 piece suite……it just doesnt work like that!

        If he could get away with it, your right, he would probably try it, but trust me, theres no way in hell it would be allowed to happen.

        • TheFatController

          So my guess that Ashley will sell Merino and Lascelles in a London pub to abramovich on a ‘free transfer’ is more wide of the mark than even chronicle stories?

          Apologies, my mistake.

          • Geordie-7676

            Well you didn’t say Free Transfer earlier did you….it all makes more sense now ;)

          • TheFatController

            Fair enough, but can I ask you to read my post again and see I actually put the words ‘on a free’ in inverted commas in the last sentence…

            I can’t do more than put ‘on a free’ in commas to infer the nature of the comment was never serious.

          • Geordie-7676

            Fair enough, but can i ask you to read my original comment, that was in fact aimed at Jezza and not yourself…..

          • TheFatController

            Apologies, noted!

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        1 things for sure Jezza they won`t find any cash in the Till

      • Oooh bobbi fleckman

        Jezza, do you really know how these thing work. You do not buy a £400m football club to find the previous owner has been and nicked the lightbulbs (see Virsino’s point), you people!

        • nufcslf

          Find it hard to believe that you are so blind to sh* t like Cashley. The man has ruined a football club and needs to f*ck off and hopefully with his tail between his legs being bullied with any luck along the way by Amamda. This is a business. It is also about football once a week, which hasn’t been worth watching for far too many years from his none football minded decision making for millions of pounds in his back pocket. Not funny in the slightest and shouldn’t get away with it anymore.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            I think it’s time to change ownership. Ashley has steadied the ship and given it a clean slate but if he’s lost the appetite for adventure, then it’s time for someone new.

            I wrote a fantastic article in the Mag about the fans coughing up their own money to buy it, then the blame game can stop, that would be my preferred route but Stavely’s intervention has moved the game on.

            The comment I made to which you have responded is intended to get the fantasists back in touch with reality, something the sensible folk like Geordie-7676 and Virsono have reiterated and explained better than me.

            Some of the football we’ve had in 10 years has been poor, some between 2004&7 was also dire. Some of the football under the much maligned Pardew was very good.

            And what is the talk of billions in his back pocket? you talk utter tripe.

    • Virsino

      When a deal is done (and signed), Ashley won’t be able to sell a fricking thing!. Let’s not all start acting like complete imbeciles.

      • Oooh bobbi fleckman

        Welcome to the world of the Mag’s comment section.

        • TheFatController

          A section where they don’t see irony in a comment, clearly…

      • TheFatController

        No, having owned and sold a business of my own there was no hint of irony or comedy in there,

        I do actually believe an owner can sell assets in London pubs the day before the deal is finalized and pocket the money from the sales.

        Good job you’re here to put me right on what business owners can’t get away with once their business is sold.

        • Virsino

          That’s the thing about context; you were writing a pretty steady comment about “a takeover where money talks”, so, when you go off down a route of irony/comedy in relation to the sale of assets after a deal is done, and expect everyone else to see your hillariously ironic context, don’t start moaning about replies and getting the hump when some people perceive your comment as moronic.

          I’m not here to put you right on anything, but when you have to explain you owned and sold something as the basis for ironic comedy, it’s a more ‘Joe Kinnear’ than joke.

          • TheFatController

            Agreed, you are right. The elements in my comment, of ‘meeting the oligarch reclusive owner of Chelsea in a London pub(lic house) to sell high value players on free transfers the day before he hands the club over (inferring he’s pocketing the £30m cash the oligarch has in a brown bag for him)’ should have an asterisk with notation below it pointing out that ‘the views of the commenter may not be ones he takes quite as seriously as some over sensitive readers’..

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    If the new owners are haggling over £50m god help us as to compete with the top six you need to be spending in the hundreds of millions these days.
    Just cannot understand why they just do not pay the £300m and get it over with.

    • TheFatController

      Will you stop your obsession with going on about ‘new owners can’t have much money if they won’t throw money at mike ashley’

      How old are you ? 5? Do you tell mummy and daddy if they loved you really they’d earn more money and get you the PlayStation, and give it to you now not Xmas…?

      It’s not worth £250m – plus your mate Ashley must be made to pay for making everything bar his valuation lesser in his ten years here despite the football boom period – so here’s to Staveley taking him to the cleaners and having more money to give to Rafa in coming years.

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Do not do computer games or play stations they are for geeks or Christmas presents never have just spend my money on going to matches.
        The new prospective owners need to get real and quick or the deal will not go through. Full stop stump up £300m or the deal is off.
        No doubt you will be enjoying your new computer games over Christmas while I am at the pub and the match but each to their own I suppose.

        • FatParosite

          I’m surprised they allow you out of the “shut up & eat” home you reside in to go to matches.

        • TheFatController

          I’d like to be able to laugh and say ‘you got me on that with your razor sharp wit’, but somehow I’m just not feeling it …

      • Mack Edwards

        I think another part of the equation which nobody seems to be taking into consideration is how much Cashley’s worth has mushroomed since he took over the reigns at NUFC.. At that time he was “only” worth about 750mill. Now he seems to be oscillating between 2/3 billion (is it share prices or his actual worth??? I don’t know). Whatever it is he could technically give the club away and still come out much wealthier than when he took us over – I know he obviously wouldn’t do that but worth a shot Amanda?

      • Oooh bobbi fleckman

        Just what valuation method are you using to say it’s not worth £250m?

        I’ve seen a few valuation models and none put the value at £250m. In the EPL, profits can be £20m – £60m. Ask yourself, can you put £250 in a bank and get £60 interest each year?

        • TheFatController

          Because he’s only got one bid in ten years and that’s at £250m

          I have a degree in business but I don’t need any of what I learnt to work out if no one’s offering £400m, £350m, or £300m, it ain’t worth that…

          Your latter theory is that there’s huge profit to come from buying the club? Why haven’t we see any in 10 years then …? We spent £11m on players this summer. You can’t say Ashley deserves the extra income Staveley will make if she’s the one doing all the work to get it?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            A degree in business? Usually means you didn’t get the a’ level grades to do an Economics or a Mathematics degree.

            I think the bit that has been missed is that he will only sell if the offer is good enough.

          • TheFatController

            Thanks for your ‘argument from ignorance’ on why I took my degree in business. I like people who make assertions without information. I suspect you’re never out of what therapists call the ‘drama triangle’ …

            Well, if he doesn’t sell we’ll be relegated. The offer therefore will no doubt be deemed good enough with hindsight, because hindsight’s a wonderful thing.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            No need for thanks, it’s a free service. We’re no more likely to be relegated with MA at the helm than the new owners. You will know from your polyversity studies during a non-hostile takeover, both parties want a smooth transition and buying / investment will be agreed and here, the budget and Rafa targets will almost certainly been agreed in the last weeks.

          • TheFatController

            Ah, a cynic from The university of life?

            I also studied psychotherapy. And your revealing plenty. if I was was Hannibal
            letcter, I’d want to know ‘what was it Bobbi Fleckman, what was your Silence of the Lambs…?’

            Did you know superiority is the refuge of the insecure – it’s why I go there occasionally (like, say…now?), I can cope with admitting that. You’re first sentence in that last post is a smug, superior tone. Very revealing…

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            University of life? to be honest, I’ve possibly been sheltered a little from that one.

            The superior tone is indeed revealing, I’m comfortable with that in present company.

            Back to the point, the player purchasing is not going to be vastly different if a takeover goes ahead first. If MA is selling to Stavely’s clients, he will be very careful not to lumber the club into transfers that Stavely’s client does not want, that would literally be wiping value off the club.

        • HarryHype59

          The profits have been made by underfunding transfers not by increasing commercial revenues!

          The result of this is that the club has gone from being an established EPL side, to one which battles for relegation!

      • nufcslf

        This is vital. The fat ba*tard has said he put it up for sale because he can’t take it any further forward and obviously has no interest. Has to go now. Moron if he stays even if he does panic buy in January. Simply needs a fresh start.

    • Alex

      That’s 20% extra than they’ve offered – they’ll be weighing it up and playing the negotiation game. On a house worth £150k, would you just cough up £180k ‘to get it over with’?

      • Oooh bobbi fleckman

        On a house worth £400k, would you drop £150k just because the buyer’s quite pretty?

        • TheFatController

          Well, the seller may tell you it’s £400m, the estate agent may beg to differ …

        • Alex

          If I was really wanting to get out of the house, and knew that in 6 months it would probably start to subside due to lack of underpinning, then I just might………….irrespective of how good looking a buyer was.

    • FatParosite

      It’s a buyers market. They can save much more if Ashley torpedos his own club due to his cretinous gambling habit.

      • Oooh bobbi fleckman

        It’s a buyers market if the buyer is prepared to look elsewhere. For similar money they can buy Stoke, perhaps stretch to Watford, Bournemouth and perhaps Crystal Palace. For a fair bit less, they can drop a division and buy Leeds.

        It’s a buyers market but Newcastle united in the EPL with a Stadium that does not need a penny spent on it, a wage bill that is under control and decent additional income streams – it’s a better project than most.

        • TheFatController

          Why’s no one else bid for it then? Maybe you should have written the promotional brochure and not Ashley’s people who’ve drummed up a staggering single bidder.

          Seems only Hughton and Rafa can do promotion well for Ashely…

        • HarryHype59

          The TV income stream is not guaranteed and is now under serious threat! Without that the club is “worthless” according to you!

          When NUFC were bought by Ashley in 2007, the club was an established side with seven top six finishes in fourteen seasons! Alas, the club is now but mere relegation fodder who could well be in the bottom three by January!

          That fact and the lack of any other buyers, puts Stavely in the ascendency over your hero!

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            But you believe and any other buyer must believe that with better stewardship, we’ll be top of the league.

            I don’t really see Stavely in the stronger position because at the moment, Ashley has the ownership, she wants to buy and until the price is agreed, she will not own (or her client will not own) the football club.

            As it happens, my understanding is that a price agreement has been met, what they are doing now is a tick box exercise both legally and on the EPL status.

          • HarryHype59

            No one expects us to be top of the league! However, an end to being perennial relegated fodder must be the first realistic and attainable target!

            Does your “contact” know when a sale may go through?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            A sale will go through when the terms are all agreed.

          • HarryHype59

            When is that going to be? Or does your “insider” not know!

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Who mentioned an insider?

          • HarryHype59

            Your posts imply that you have inside contacts at the club! Your comment that price has been agreed by both parties, implies this!

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Implied but not stated. I was told at the Man U away game that things took a big step forward as Ashley’s team felt it was not worth allowing further DD when the price was so far off and prices were agreed but with conditions. It’s in her interests for Amanda stavely to find reason for those conditions to not be met to withhold monies. Most of the serious comment has been consistent with this information.

            You can of course take the viewpount of Micky Love, Soldier, or Steve Pearce and the other intellectual

          • HarryHype59

            Told by whom? A secret insider feeding you all the NDA info?

          • HarryHype59

            Told by whom? A secret insider feeding you all the NDA info?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Details of a bid are not covered in an NDA, it’s bad form to disclose information like that but not the point of an nda

          • HarryHype59

            “Details of a bid are not covered by a NDA”

            So what is the point of having one!

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            The business (Nufc) is opening its confidential books to an outsider, and NDA forbids the outsider to disclose confident island information. The bid can disclose their bid if they like but can’t public ally justify it by explaining confidential matters.

    • Damon Horner

      £50mil is a canny bit of money in fairness. Ashley when negotiating the Carroll deal kept upping his demands because the buyer is willing to pay it. If Staveley says “no problem” to the £50mil discrepancy Ashley’s next move might be to try and again renegotiate a higher price.

      Also, if there is a willingness to pay and not negotiate then that sets a precedent for other deals they make in the future.

      Bottom line though I wouldn’t give a greedy man his demands so everybody else has an easy life.

    • HarryHype59

      The less Stavely pays Ashley, the more there will be for transfers! Think about it!

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        Agree but these new owners are supposed to buy a £100m pounds centre forward at a drop of a had so £50m is neither here nor there a bit like us going down the pub for a couple of nights.

  • Coble’s Return

    Not too sure I can take much more of this. Reading down the comments, it is clear that Amanda needs to pull her finger out and agree to the chunky bloke’s demands, or he will spit his dummy and tell her to do one. Oh – but once she has agreed to his finger in the air valuation, she then needs to watch out because he intends to flog or give away the entire playing squad (Joselu aside), dig up the pitch to create allotments and then offer the roof of the Milburn Stand to the scrap dealer on Station Road.

    Get a grip of yourselves.

  • Mal

    Stavely looks as though she is a tough negotiator and has 2 things working in her favour.
    1. Our value is falling as we drop down the league. We could be in the bottom 3 by Christmas and if no price has been agreed by then Ashley could be struggling to sell at any price, never mind £250- 300 million.
    2. If he doesn’t sell he is going to have to make funds available in January or we will almost certainly be relegated.
    Stavely looks to have the upper hand to me. Ashley won’t like that.