Alan Shearer suffered with the rest of the Newcastle fans on Saturday afternoon.

Yet another sellout crowd at St James Park watched Watford walk away with three points.

Two goals in the first half and then a third just after the hour mark did the job…but as Alan Shearer says, it could have been far far worse.

It ended 3-0 but as Shearer says, ‘could have and should have been 6’.

In fact my only criticism would be that the NUFC legend was being generous because whilst Newcastle had a few chances of their own, Watford could have scored close to double figures, such was the danger they posed.

As Alan Shearer summed up after a fourth defeat in a row: ‘So much for being difficult to beat!!’.

The player turned pundit described it as a ‘horror show’ and hopefully Rafa Benitez will make the players watch it a number of times.

They say the best thing after a display like that is to have another game straight after, well West Brom away is 72 hours away but they had a morale boosting draw at Wembley and for 70 minutes they led and looked set to take three points.

Must do better.

Alan Shearer:

“So much for being difficult to beat!!

“Could have and should have been 6.

“Horror show today  from Newcastle United.”

Stats from BBC Sport:

Newcastle United 0 Watford 3

Goals:

Watford: Hughes 19, Yedlin (OG) 45+1, Gray 62

Possession was Watford 48% Newcastle 52%

Total shots were  Watford 12 Newcastle 12

Shots on target were Watford 4 Newcastle 2

Corners were  Watford 3 Newcastle 6

Referee: Chris Kavanagh

Newcastle United:

Elliot, Yedlin, Clark, Lejeune, Manquillo, Ritchie, Shelvey, Diame (Merino 69), Murphy (Perez 77), Joselu (Mitrovic 69), Gayle

Unused Subs:

Darlow, Gamez, Perez, Mbemba

Crowd: 52,188 (Watford 2,200)



  • Peter

    We have just got to hope that club is sold before January. I can’t see Ashley providing sufficient funds, using the impending sale as his excuse, to really improve the squad…This season could get very messy….Let’s hope Ashley sells the club in time…

    • Anth

      Can’t believe some of the comments tonight, we lost, and were tought a lesson by a solid and fair side today people need to release that. Let’s move on, West Brom mid week, Mitro, Mernio and Arron’s must start for me I would keep Murphy in and drop Gale or Ritchie depending on formation. its time cetian players stepped up to plate and show there worth. Got it to easy !!!

      • Amth

        200 Mil+ sped in jan to eveny stand a chance 😬

        • Anth

          West Brom Tuesday I can’t see how Mitro doesn’t start this game it’s a no brainier Joselu doesnt enough by day, I understand Raffael concerns with Mitro but he can’t push him away like this, give him the service he needs and it will psy off 10 fold

  • Marveauxless

    I’m just grateful that Andre Gray decided to show us his best Joselu impression and miss two absolute sitters.
    If the takeover goes through before January I bet Rafa could assemble a genuinely world class team around Joselu (11 starts IN. A. ROW!!)

  • Leazes Ender

    Beginning to look like the fifteenth most expensive squad now….. and its only November. the mercury will drop further.

    For the life of me I couldn’t understand why Ashley did this to the club again.

    • anyobrien

      That’s the thing why? I don’t get it.

    • Mrkgw

      Maybe Ashley just dislikes our club, always has done, and sees it as none other than a vehicle on which to generate cash. Lets face it, he has shown none other than complete disregard to the supporters and the concept of entertainment. ASHLEY OUT!

  • Leicester Mag

    Utterly found out. Rafa must take some of the blame with a frankly bizarre team today it’s not like he left out a string of stars. At present players gain in stature when not playing and this says it all. All said and done though this result was made back in the summer in the cynical mind of an amoral chancer 40k season tickets sold why do more? Those brainless sheep conned again, you can almost taste the contenpt and smug satisfaction. No more chances. NO sale, empty the ground, cost him every penny. We have to make £300M a pipedream if he laughs in our faces again. Pig sick of this malignant growth lighting our club

    • TheFatController

      Has anyone bar Ashley mentioned anything close to a value of £400m,£350m etc? You’re spot on, but I’d say even before today £300m was the rantings of a madman (greedy man, in fairness, there’s a method to the madness) and nothing like the value of the club.

      Is any club that was just relegated to the championship thus losing £100m and returning having a threadbare squad worth even £250m? I’d say no.

      • Marveauxless

        Financial expert David Buik said that Staveley was “trying it on” with her initial offer. I wouldn’t say £380 million for a business with an annual turnover over £130 million, assets of around £100 million and significant opportunity for commercial growth was a ridiculous valuation. Both parties are just trying to get the very best deal possible. Businesses of this size will never be sold based on the first offer.

        • TheFatController

          You say ‘annual’ turnover of £130m, I’d say ‘occasional’, and next year it may be better to call it ‘historical’ or ‘never to be seen again’ revenue…

          No wonder Staveley wants a relegation clause. Personally, if I was heading an investment on behalf of others, my morals would make me walk away but thankfully it’s not my decision and not my money …

          • Marveauxless

            The last 3 annual reports show turnovers of £130 million and, with ever-increasing TV deals, that shows no sign of slowing. The value of the club does not plummet with a few bad results, that’s not how business works, especially with a January transfer window looming that would allow any potential buyer the opportunity to cement its place in the top-flight.

          • TheFatController

            No, you’re wrong, as any potential buyer, today, would propose knocking £Xm (shall we say, £50m?) off the value to allow them to put the squad into ‘survival state’ after years of reducing commercial revenue and subsequent squad under- investment.

            The club is propped up by Rafa and the fans – without Staveley, Ashley will be without fan support and without Rafa.

            Make a business case for £400m in that scenario?

            You reap what you sow. Ashley gambled on survival, right now we’ve lost four in a row and no-one likes the look of the fixtures, even Brighton at home given they lost 1-0 at Man Utd compared to our showing last week.

            You can state ‘business logic’ all you like but I’d wager we are seeing a few bad results show the bad shape the club is in, and how the business relies on Rafa and the fans, neither of which are guaranteed without a sale. That’s sure to devalue the club, so results, I’m afraid for your logic, are everything in modern football…

        • TheFatController

          Also, David Bulk clearly hadn’t had the foresight to see today’s performance coming and the upcoming fixture list …

        • TheFatController

          And, as you’re clearly an Ashley apologist, explain ‘significant opportunity for commercial growth’ in the context of ‘due to not taking the opportunity to grow commercial revenue the club has a substandard squad and is staring relegation in the face after a few wins sgainst teams woefully out of form …’ …?

          Your criticism of my argument the club is devalued turns out to be a justification of it being devalued.

          I thank you…

          • Marveauxless

            “And, as you’re clearly an Ashley apologist”
            I never said anything of the sort pal (??).

            The club’s potential for commercial growth makes it more valuable than if it’s current commercial revenue was at saturation point. That is indisputable. Of course the club would be even more valuable if it had reached that commercial potential already but I never suggested otherwise.

          • TheFatController

            Explain commercial growth in light of four defeats in a row and 4 Lou ta valve relegation with tough fixtures approaching?

            The only way we grow commercially is if it’s sold. So that makes a buyer the key to commercial growth, not Ashley.

            Try this? If Ashley stays, what will be this year’s commercial growth ?

            So what should PCP pay for future commercial growth potential when the previous owner stagnated it. I wouldn’t pay for work I was going to have to do, why should PCP ?

          • Marveauxless

            4 losses in a row does not impact the club’s ability to strike sponsorship deals with businesses across the world. Liverpool’s commercial revenue has more than doubled since 2010 despite a massive slump in performances in the 7 years since then whilst Everton’s has tripled in the same period despite a similar slump.
            Ashley has the ability to grow the club commercially, he chooses not to. Instead he has stripped the club down to a skeleton staff to reduce costs as cost cutting is a lot easier and less risky than investing.
            I am in no way pro-Ashley, I was merely suggesting that £380 million for a Premier League club with a significant fan base in an area with no competitors may not be all that ridiculous of a valuation. Sheikh Mansour paid £200 million for mid-table Man City (a team in an area with huge competition) 10 years ago at a time when Premier League revenues were a fraction of what they are today. Don’t take it so personally

        • HarryHype59

          The majority of the turnover arises from the TV deal, which is dependent on the club retaining top flight status! Without that money the club is worth up to 60% less as revenue streams collapse!

          Randy Lerner sold Villa for £60m in 2016 after relegation, reducing the price from £160m once they were in the Championship!

          PCP could wait until next summer and get the club for a fraction of the current asking price!

      • HarryHype59

        The club will be sold for £80m when it is relegated again under the Fatman!

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    It`s a horror story most weeks, a couple or 3 decent results & a lucky win against Palace gave us the 14 pts.
    they rabbit on about the championship being a hard league, well it`s a cake walk compared with the premiership.
    when i read the team sheet at 1406 i knew we were in trouble and so it panned out

    • Danimal

      Thank God for the lucky win. Only six points ahead of Palace.

  • anyobrien

    Well to jezza, soldier, mickey mouse I hold my hands up now and agree we are in big big trouble… Lack of investment is proving to be lethal…… And BTW I left at half time today something I have never done… I’ve had enough and the take over?… Time will only lay tell.

    • Leicester Mag

      Fact that you left is sad. My walk away moment came year before relegation when we conceded after 17 seconds after kicking off at Leicester. 2-0 down after 15 minutes I turned to my mate and just said that’s it. It just dawned on me that enjoyment was tipping over into anger and bitterness. There is only one reason for this – an amoral perverse owner hell bent on doing nothing other than taking advantage of anyone and everyone he can.

    • Leazes Ender

      I left on 80 mins, wasn’t bothered about getting my money’s worth.

  • Whickhamrobbie

    sorry Watford fans you were right if you didn,t beat that lot you must be poor .
    and i had the cheek to call you deluded .
    Club in a mess again , ownership , playing staff , reserves ,and dare i say it management .
    Stop blaming Ashley Rafa and do something positive .

    • Danimal

      Ashley is to blame.

      • Marveauxless

        Ashley doesn’t show blatant nepotism towards Spanish players despite their consistently inadequate performances when there are better players in the squad.

        • Danimal

          Xisco.

          • Danimal

            Nacho Gonzales

          • anyobrien

            100%Ashley to blame

          • Marveauxless

            Xisco started 2 games in 5 years whilst Nacho Gonzalez made 2 substitute appearances. Plus it was Dennis Wise who signed them

          • Danimal

            Who signed Dennis Wise?

          • Marveauxless

            What’s your point?
            By that logic it’s Ashley’s fault that Benitez refuses to drop Joselu because Ashley hired Benitez

          • Danimal

            I’ll give you that. But the fact is we are a total mess after 10 years of Ashley.

        • nevfur

          Have to agree that Joselu has been given too much time but of course if we had had a transfer fund in the summer he wouldn’t be here

          • Marveauxless

            Manquillo, Murphy, Lejeune, Joselu, Hanley, Lazaar, Selz and Diame cost a combined total of £46 million.
            For the same price we could have signed:
            Pascal Groß, Harry Maguire, Javier Hernandez, Asmir Begovic and Kenedy (and still have 2 players in each position)

          • nevfur

            Four of that eight were signed in summer 2016

          • Marveauxless

            And, given their contribution, Diame was the only one of the four needed to be signed at all. Lazaar and Hanley made a combined total of 5 starts whilst Selz started 9 (none after September) and cost us far more points than Darlow would have. That money should have been banked.

          • nevfur

            True but that could be said if many signings over the years from all managers. My original point that an 11 M net spend in the summer left us looking for bargain basement players and Joselu wouldn’t be here if we had a PL transfer fund and I’d wager whoever we got would be better than him

          • Rossfromband

            So presumably there are no wages involved, just transfer fees?

          • Marveauxless

            Kenedy would have been on loan and Gross, moving from Ingolstadt to Brighton, wouldn’t be earning much at all. The 8 Newcastle players I mentioned would not collectively be earning significantly less than the other 3 potential signings (agent fees would likely also be lower, or at least on par, given the lower quantity of players)

          • HarryHype59

            Fair point, but the fat one puts strict wage caps on the squad! The club had the 16th highest wage in the 2015-16 relegation season. I suspect we are similarly positioned this season!

    • Toonrobbybobson

      Ashley is to blame. Your risk shoots up massively when you are continually forced to shop bargain basement and that was after being misslead to believe you could spend a but only to be lied so have to hurry in the bottom of the bargain basement bin for the leftovers.

      Under Ashley its difficult to build any form of plan or foundations. I think our main hitters are looking leggy as well.

      Anyone who doesnt think Lascelles is any good should see the evidence of the hole our captain leaves in our spine.

      I still believe the lads will soul search and find the fight.

      Im not a mitrovic fan but I thought he came in had some nice touches. Needs to be given a chance now.

  • molend

    Note to Rafa: I’ve just been sat on by a blind hippopotamus- these things happen. This has restricted my mobility somewhat and I’m unable to use my right leg. Given my circumstances and the fact that I’m unable to continue my career as a punkah wallah, can I please be considered for Joselu’s position?

  • Peaky Magpie

    This result is reminiscent of when we lost heavily at home to Portsmouth under Hippo Heed and again at home under McClaren v Bournemouth and we all know what happened to those two shortly after.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    Yes we missed an open goal in the first ten minutes they had one shot on target the first half and went in two nil up shut your mouth Shearer Watford only had four shots on target all game you are a disgrace

    • hetonmag

      I’m convinced you know sweet FA.

    • Danimal

      You can dress it up however you like but add Watford to the long list of clubs with far less potential and resources than us, who are now streets ahead of us. Thanks to your hero Mike Ashley.

    • TheFatController

      Your criteria of ‘Only shots on target matter’ means the open goal back stick chance they missed just after the first goal wasn’t a sign they should have scored more ?

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        How many chances did we have exactly the same as them and should have been one up and level at half time. Also to put Mito on and take the winger off is not great tactics as he needs the service.

    • Phil Yare

      you are instantly dislikeable

      • Monkseaton Magpies

        No mention from Shearer of the twelve chances we had included the open goal after five minutes on another day we could have had six as well and no mention how unlucky the own goal was.

  • Monkseaton Magpies

    Every one knows Arrons Mitro and Mbemba should have started why the hell Raffa hates certain players I will never know.

  • hetonmag

    Some absolute garbage spouted on here by the usual suspects you lot suggest Rafa should go now, I wonder who you put in his place because you will never ever be happy it doesn’t matter who is manager. Soon as we have a bad run sack the gaffer it doesn’t matter what CV he’s got just get someone else in it’s pathetic.

    • HarryHype59

      I don’t think Rafa should go BUT he seriously needs to up his game!
      If a Pardew/Carver/McLaren team had played as badly as that the fan backlash would be far greater!

  • fistsofsteel2

    I wonder what Joselu has got on Rafa? Blackmail is the only explanation for his continued prescence in the first team.

  • Dennis Tate

    Joselu out, and give Mitro a spell at starting. No need to go into detail about Joselu, history draws a picture of missed chances.

    • Monkseaton Magpies

      If you play Mitro Arrons or Atsu must start as he needs the service no good taking wingers off and putting Perez on.