It is 12 days to go until the Premier League kicks off for Newcastle United and how do you think things are shaping up?

Five signings have been made so far, with Mikel Merino joining Florian Lejeune, Christian Atsu, Jacob Murphy and Javier Manquillo.

How do you think this squad would do this coming season if nobody else was added before the transfer window closes at the end of the month?

Fair to say that most/all fans were expecting a bigger outlay of transfer cash than has been so far but it is difficult market.

All kinds of opinions on the players that Newcastle have been able to bring in so far but is it enough?

So please vote below on where this current Newcastle United squad would finish in this upcoming season’s Premier League if no further signings are added this month?




  • Leicester Mag

    Votes suggest a good deal of laudable optimism but realistic? We have one playmaker and one forward with an average at best injury record. We’ve no obvious link player as illustrated by the use of Diame and de Jong alternatively in pre-season. Average full backs and a heavy reliance on 2-3 promising players coming good. It may be all right but without further signings it’s again be one hell of a punt from the chubby punter.

  • Leazes Ender

    We have the Fourteenth most valuable squad, I’d say about fourteenth provided we don’t get injuries to Shelvey and he stays fit and in form and the striker arrives soon.

    • disqus_GFJ5SSXQ7o

      According to your sad website, about as pointless as this article

      • East Durham Mag

        Have you been seeing different signings to the rest of us? Positivity is wonderful but most of us haven’t seen very much to positive about yet.

        • Martin Rooney

          Lejuene, Murphy, both very very good signings.

          • East Durham Mag

            Yes they seem to be but if Gayle and Shelvey both get injured what then. Best player and best striker out and we would be in the clarts.

          • Martin Rooney

            Mitro have a check how many goals he got per minutes on the pitch the last time he played in the premier league, he’s pretty good cover.

          • East Durham Mag

            He’s a good lad and his heart is in the right place but Rafa just doesn’t set his formation to get the best out of Mitro. I doubt he will either. At international level his goals speak for themselves. We either need Rafa to flex or another striker. I’d love Mitro to come good. Just can’t see it happening with NUFC.

          • Geordiegiants

            2015/16 Premiership
            22 starts + 12 on as sub.
            2117 mins played
            9 goals
            1 goal every 235 minutes
            4 yellows
            2 reds
            From an above post.

  • Franzcarrsuperstar

    What a bunch of pessimists!

    I reckon people might be overestimating the challenge. There is no reason why we can’t compete with two-thirds of the division. We’ve got a class manager, great team spirit, a winning feeling from getting promoted at a canter and competition for places in most positions.

    Outside of the very best teams, everyone is lacking a top class forward, number 10, winger blah blah blah…

    No reason to fear anything. Relying solely on incoming transfers to fuel your optimism is futile. You’ll never be satisfied. Winning is about much more than just buying players, and I think we now have a lot going for us compared to two or three years ago.

    Bring on Spurs. Can’t wait to get started so that coverage is about more than just transfer speculation.

    • Leazes Ender

      The bookies are going to love you.

      • Franzcarrsuperstar

        I don’t gamble. But I am an optimist and a dreamer. Not afraid to admit it…. I can’t wait to get cracking. Summer without an international tournament is always long and boring, as all there is to do is listen to children moan about not getting their favourite sweets from the shop.

        • Leazes Ender

          Its getting exciting isn’t it.

        • Tom page

          Haven’t you ever heard of the England cricket team???

      • disqus_GFJ5SSXQ7o

        Why don’t you two get a room and make this flirting official

      • Oooh bobbi fleckman

        £10 we are not relegated.

        • Leazes Ender

          I said 14th

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Ever the optimist.

        • Rich Lawson

          What odds are they quoteing ?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            It was a challenge to Leazes whom appears to have dropped his doom and gloom once money is on the table.

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      That`s like Custer saying, Bring on the Indians

      • Franzcarrsuperstar

        I’m not afraid of Spurs. Too much fear on this site, reflected by the tone of 80% of the articles. Football is about challenge and dreams of glory, not fear and cynicism.

        At least Custer had a go.

        • Jezza

          Well I for one am very much afraid of Spurs. I’m having nightmares about what the likes of Kane and Alli are going to do to us.

          • Soldier

            Spurs last 2 games last season both away, won 6-1 at Leicester & 7-1 at Hull

          • Martin Rooney

            last game at SJP?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Be honest Jezza, you haven’t, you’ve just made that up.

          • Leazes Ender

            I think its a figure of speech, a metaphor, a simile……

            I think you have problems with your cognitive processes in literal comprehension.

          • Rich Lawson

            Could be 5-0 to someone again !!

        • Soldier

          if it`s dreams & glory you`re after you won`t find it here mate

        • Tom page

          And FAILED!

          • Franzcarrsuperstar

            Success is moving from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.

            Great man said that, and he was right.

          • Leazes Ender

            Which great man was that?

          • Franzcarrsuperstar

            Churchill

          • Leazes Ender

            Was he drunk at the time?

          • Tom page

            He should have known all about failure – he failed often enough!

          • Franzcarrsuperstar

            That’s kind of the point of the quote.

          • Tom page

            If failure is what you want you picked the right man for your quote – by the way he was responsible for killing thousands probably like Ashley will next season.

          • Franzcarrsuperstar

            Yeah I’m aware of Churchill. The point he is trying to make is that failure is inevitable, so success is staying resilient enough to press on undeterred until the next inevitable failure. I agree with him. It’s the approach I try and take – it’s the approach I hope our manager and players will take. Basically don’t be afraid of failure. It’s okay if others do things in a different way, but not me. I’ll dust myself off and look forward to a new season not fearing what might happen or where we might finish, but hoping we can do well.

          • Tom page

            Great, if failure is what you are aiming for! In my 80 years following Newcastle United I have never ever gone to any match looking for FAILURE. I’ve always gone to St. James’ seeking for them to win. Quite often they have lost – BUT never, as far as I knew, have gone out onto the Park expecting to fail. That is obviously, as you have outlined, something quite new!

          • Franzcarrsuperstar

            That’s not what I’m saying. I guess the fear and resignation on this site frustrates me, essentially. I just don’t get the whole thing of going into a new season saying ‘I hope or think we’ll finish 16th’. We can do better, and I’ll keep believing that. Sounds like you and I probably are not coming from a million miles away. I’m not afraid of failure, and I think our team are now the same. The way they responded to difficulties last season impressed me – the trick is not get too carried away and press trusting your system etc. Wasn’t like that before Rafa Cala along.

        • Rich Lawson

          And like every one else in the current market got scallped !

      • Martin Rooney

        Okay then clever fella tell us which players from stoke, bournemouth, burnley, west brom, swansea, brighton etc etc who we should should be fighting over to get into our squad

        • Leazes Ender

          Have a look on transfermarkt its great for shopping trips.

      • Rich Lawson

        King Prawn balti please.

    • HarryHype59

      The team lost ten times last season in the Championship. I shudder to think how many defeats this team will suffer this season. I hope 36 points keeps us up!.

  • TC Toon Army

    No on thinks we’re good enough for 6th?! Id be happy with 6th. I voted 1st of course.

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      that would be 6th bottom

      • Tom page

        Once again you are spot-on!

  • Leazes Ender

    Where has the owner positioned the club….. have a look.

    • Carlo Ancelotti

      Exactly where he wants it to be

      • Leazes Ender

        Fourteenth.

  • disqus_GFJ5SSXQ7o

    In other words, have a whinge.

    Stupid article, this will no doubt be followed up with yet another meaningless comparison article to the last one, I repeat, stupid article!

  • Jezza

    “Fair to say that most/all fans were expecting a bigger outlay of transfer cash than has been so far but it is difficult market.”

    It’s not the market that’s been difficult, it’s the club owner.

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      Have a whine Jezza, just for a change

      • Jezza

        Well it seems to be quite a popular “whine” going by the number of votes it has received.

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          If that’s important to you, I’ll give you a vote too.

          Look at the level of debate on here, these people are not exactly at the top of the food chain.

          • Leicester Mag

            And your doctorate was from where?

    • Martin Rooney

      So tell us all what actions of his have been ‘difficult’.

      • Jezza

        Refusing to make money available for new signings.

  • HarryHype59

    I would take seventeenth position right now this season. We are in the all too familiar “Let’s hope there are three teams worse than us” zone.

  • Martin Rooney

    Obviously not many brains in gear when voting, you should look at the league’s competition rather than whether the players you wanted to be signed have been.
    Will this Newcastle squad finish above Brighton, Bournemouth, Crystal Palace, Burnley, Huddersfield, Stoke, Southampton, Swansea, Watford, West Brom, West Ham? If you think about it the answer is that they should finish above all of them (thats 9th) even if they don’t they will with rafa as boss finish above 7 or 8 of them. (13th) Though as it’s The Mag i’m not surprised by the negative near 75% thinking we’ll be 15th or lower.

    • Jezza

      “Will this Newcastle squad finish above Brighton, Bournemouth, Crystal
      Palace, Burnley, Huddersfield, Stoke, Southampton, Swansea, Watford,
      West Brom, West Ham? If you think about it the answer is that they
      should finish above all of them”

      That is exactly the kind of blinkered, short sighted, ill informed, head in the sand thought process going through Ashley’s mind when he is refusing to make money available for adequate team strengthening.

      • Martin Rooney

        But he isn’t refusing to make money available, the manager has said all the money made by the club is being spent on players. That is all the support that is allowed.

        • Jezza

          Do you really think an ambitious and highly respected manager like Rafa would be scraping around the bargain basement for loan deals, untried youngsters and Sunderland rejects if he had tens of millions of Pounds at his disposal?

          • Martin Rooney

            ‘If he had tens of millions of pounds at his disposal’
            where’s that smiley with the gushing tears.
            Atsu £6.5m
            Murphy £11m
            Lejuene £9m
            Manquillo £5m

            That is £30m+, the tens of millions you seek to be spent.

          • Jezza

            Rafa has spent around £30 million but the club have also brought in around £20 million from player sales. That’s a net spend of £10 million. Even Championship club Middlesborough, with half our crowds, have made a net spend more than double that ammount.

            Believe what you like but the money is most definitely not available for Rafa to go after the players he really wants.

          • Martin Rooney

            £20m from player sales, who have they sold? Daryl Murphy £1.1m with a top up to £2m if they win promotion. As I believe Rafa wants to sign players of the calibre he had a Real madrid, i would concur that he does not have the money to buy the players he wants, but as he needs a job and he has all the money that the club has. Then he is not being restricted by the club owner.

          • Jezza

            Thauvin £10 million
            Murphy £2 million
            That kid to Everton £6 million
            Kevin Mbabu £1 million
            One or two other reserves/fringe players who I can’t think of offhand for small fees.

            In the latter stages of last season there were many fans on this forum (you may or may not have been one of them) confidently predicting that the club would spend £100 million in the summer. When Rafa agreed to stay shortly after promotion was secured, the media reported that £70 million would be available for him to spend.

            There is no way Rafa would have brought in the players he has if he’d had a pot of £70 to £100 million.

            Atsu, Lejeune, Murphy, Manquillo, Merino. Ask yourself truly were these the kind of signings you were hoping NUFC would make when we secured promotion?

          • Martin Rooney

            Off course Thauvin, £10 if we actually know what the deal is, but Murphy, is £1.1, Gibson, is £1, and there was nothing for Mbabu. So £12m tops. Atsu no I’d have kept gouff, Lejeune yes, Murphy yes yes yes, Manquillo, no no no but that’s rafas choice as he’s in charge. Merino, happy if Rafa finds a gem. then great again like a delli Ali

          • mactoon

            Rafa does not have total control over transfers or he would have gotten the players he wanted. He is restricted by the funds available which are considerably less than reported and by Charnley who is doing the negotiations as though it is his own money

          • HarryHype59

            You are entitled to your opinion, however there are huge question marks over all of those signings. All involve a significant risk as none are proven in the top flight. Personally, I would sooner have brought in a 30m EPL standard striker rather than “Shirt fillers” like the Mackem reject.

          • Martin Rooney

            So are you saying that Rafa’s ability as a manager who is in total control of player recruitment is not doing a good job?
            As for the Stellar striker for stellar money are you talking about making sure you get the outcome of a £30m spend, like Benteke, Shevchenko, Stones, Martial, Jones, Soldado, Bony. Personally i prefer £10m signings like Deli Ali.

          • Jezza

            Somehow I think Dele Alli would fetch a lot more than £10 million if he was to ever leave Spurs. NUFC had the chance to sign Dele Alli but they wouldn’t even pay £3.8 million for him never mind £10 million.

            If you are so opposed to spending big money on a top striker, how did you feel back in 1996 when NUFC signed Alan Shearer for a world record transfer fee?

          • Mal

            If we had signed Ali for £5 million there would have been many on this site complaining about cheap buys on players with no PL experience, not used to playing in front of big crowds etc.

          • Cuh736

            Dele Alli cost 5m actually

          • Mal

            Who did you have in mind that would be a realistic signing for us?

          • Rich Lawson

            No.

        • HarryHype59

          The club is depending on monies raised from selling the “dross” to fund new signings. If that doesn’t worry you it should! The Haidara fiasco proves the club can’t even give these “toxic assets” away yet alone raise money from them.

      • HarryHype59

        I don’t think a significant section of our fans grasp the financial implications of getting relegated in the 2015-16 season. NUFC picked up £41m TV parachute money for winning the fizzy pop league, Watford collected £108m for finishing 17th. The difference is staggering and means they are significantly more “cash rich” than a newly promoted team like NUFC.

        This fact means they are more likely to finish above NUFC next season.

    • Mathew Barlow

      Based on our current squad we’ll struggle for goals, but have a solid foundation to get something from most games. Not enough in the squad to turn draws or narrow defeats into wins or draws imo as we need cover for Gayle and a No.10 or SS that can chip in. Based on us having Gayle, Mitro, Riviere, De Jong, Perez and Diame for them positions no higher than 15th isn’t voting without brains in gear…

      • Martin Rooney

        Given that Mitro’s goals per minutes on the pitch ratio in the premier league is right up there then I don’t think we should worry too much about what/who is Rafa’s second choice striker. he should be number one in my opinion. Murphy and Ritchie will both chip in with up to ten goals each this year. It’s as much about the competition as ourselves from those other teams likely to be from 10-20 is there any club that has more than 1 or 2 that you really covet?

      • Martin Rooney

        we only need twelve wins all season to have a very successful year.

    • Rich Lawson

      Don’t think we will finish above West Ham,Bilic went to Gold and Sullivan and asked for funds to sign only proven prem’ players rather than just squad newbies.

      • HarryHype59

        Watford have just spent 11m on a new striker.

        • Rich Lawson

          Embarrasing.And some folk think we might be in for Troy Deeney !!

          • Martin Rooney

            who is no better than what we have

      • Martin Rooney

        West hams income last season was significantly higher than Newcastle’s and their costs probably around the same.

        • Jezza

          Yes and West Ham’s final league position next season will also be significantly higher than Newcastle’s.

          • Martin Rooney

            what?????? they gona win the league or summit, man, are you the staff writer in place to get people replying to your nonesense

          • Jezza

            I never said West Ham would win the league. I just said they will finish significantly higher than Newcastle. We’ll see at the end of the season whether or not that’s “nonsense”.

  • Paul Patterson

    14th for me.

    • Cuh736

      Which 13 clubs will finish above us then? I’d like to know your thoughts on how you arrived at 14.

      Obvious ones: man city, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, man utd, Tottenham, Everton.

      Who is in 8-13?

  • mactoon

    Given Gayle’s injury problems last season, who is going to score goals if they continue? I think we are in real trouble if we don’t address the striker situation.

    • Cuh736

      Mitrovic.

      • mactoon

        He’s hardly prolific trustworthy or even wanted by rafa. If we only have him to depend on in Gayle absence.. I say again were in real trouble

        • Martin Rooney

          you really should check his goals per minutes on the pitch from season before last, his prowess may surprise you.

          • mactoon

            It does mate, it was shocking lol! Rafa just does not rate him given the starts he has given him

            2015/16 Premiership
            22 starts + 12 on as sub.
            2117 mins played
            9 goals
            1 goal every 235 minutes
            4 yellows
            2 reds

            2016/17 Championship
            11 starts + 14 on as sub
            1122 mins played
            4 goals
            1 every 280 minutes
            3 yellows

            Compare that to Daryl Murphy last season

            2016/17 Championship
            7 starts + 8 on as sub
            688 mins played
            5 goals
            1 every 137 mins

        • Jezza

          Mitrovic won’t even be at NUFC next season. Rafa doesn’t want him and while the club is finding it very difficult to sell him I fully expect to see him go out on loan somewhere just before the deadline.

  • Cuh736

    A lot of whingers on here today sadly, throwing blame around. It’s good to be realistic though. What quality of players could this newly promoted Newcastle possibly attract?

    I said it last year though, that everyone should prepare for a relatively quiet summer this time around, after last summer’s many changes, following a January window that saw us splash out for shelvey, Townsend.. which followed a summer which saw us splash cash for mitrovic, wijnaldum, thauvin and co

    Even if you assume we do have £70m, spending £35-40m on one player is something I would expect from the Pardew era. No matter how badly we need a proven scorer etc, we will be playing three tournaments. We need a large squad, so it is wise to go for the sort of players we have to expand our depth. Keep in mind we will be offloading some of the current squad, so the team may seem to have numbers now, but that will reduce as we approach September.

    We are trying to balance the ins and the outs, and with the comments from the manager so far, I know Rafa knows what is going on.

  • Thefootballerwhocouldfly

    An optimistic 16th! Rafa knows he knows he’s involved in a relegation fight before the PL even starts! Whing

  • Andy Mac

    I think Fatman’s doing the “there must be 3 teams worse than us” bet again this season ?