Both Newcastle United and West Ham have made approaches to take Joe Hart on loan.

However, it is now widely reported that the two clubs were rebuffed, with Manchester City making clear that after a year on loan at Torino, they are not prepared to allow another temporary move.

Pep Guardiola has made clear that England’s number one keeper hasn’t got a future at the Etihad but at the same time the Man City manager is desperate to bring in as much extra cash as possible, to ensure he can bring in the players he does want to be playing this coming season.

Despite the wealth of the club’s owners, Manchester City still have to be mindful of FFP (Financial Fair Play) rules and so need to go some way to balancing the books.

Recent figures showed that in the Premier League era, Man City have brought in 25 different signings who cost at least £20m each, whilst only selling three players for that amount.

The tightening of the rules and potential penalties of a transfer embargo, means that even they have to accept they are living in the real world, whatever that is in this 2017 Premier League era.

Manchester City have told West Ham and Newcastle that Joe Hart has a price tag of £18m, then the keeper’s current £120,000 a week wages would almost certainly have to be at least matched as well.

However, The Mail report that their information is that Joe Hart would prefer a move to Newcastle over West Ham.

With the Premier League clubs at the top having some of the best goalkeepers in the world already in position, then for Joe Hart to stay in England, you would almost certainly be looking at a club outside the top handful – unless possibly one of them loses their keeper this summer.

Some people have laughed at the idea of an £18m valuation of Joe Hart but in this summer’s market, what is a fair price for anybody?

Jordan Pickford has joined Everton for what will be an eventual £30m transfer fee and he has only played 31 Premier League matches, letting in a hatful of goals.

Obviously he has potential but Joe Hart is a double Premier League winner with a number of other trophy wins, played a lot of Champions League football, and is still England’s number one with 71 caps.

At 30 years of age he probably has at least six or seven years left at the top level and if at anywhere near his best would be a real asset for any Premier League club.

  • TheNutJob

    can just see Penfold taking a pill & having a lie down with those sort of figures being quoted

    • TheNutJob

      Fat Mike will have 15 pints 12 vodkas then throw up & say NO

      • Wor Lass

        Are you saying fat Mike would dip out on the vodka chasers? I suppose when he`s found under a bar table at the end of the night he`ll say he was taking a nap `cos it was boring!

        • The Nut Job

          best place for him to take a nap would be under a bus

          • Wor Lass

            Ha ha – yes but if he waited for a 38 he could die of old age before it came! (Do they still run?)

          • The Nut Job

            no idea i don`t live in that part of the city

          • Scott wood

            Yeah they do but it’s like a signing for newcastle once in a blue moon

  • Soldier

    who they kidding, nobody will pay either the fee or the salary for Hart

  • 1957

    I’m in two minds about Hart, for me unlike many keepers who improve as they get older Hart seems to have at best stood still.

    Where would signing Hart leave Woodman though…

    • Wor Lass

      On loan.

      • 1957

        Given Hart would probably be the highest wage at the club at present, on a 4 or 5 year deal and the clear first choice I suspect Freddie will see no future at the club and move on permanently.

        • Wor Lass

          He`s young and learning – another year on loan then back to be undersudy to, possibly still, England`s No 1. Not a bad development plan.

  • Wor Lass

    It would show some sort of intent, I suppose, but we would need to ship out Sels and either Elliot, Krul or Darlow if we signed him. If he would expect wages anywhere near £120,000 a week then it definitely won`t happen.

    • Geordiegiants

      Sels has gone.

      • Wor Lass

        Ah – missed that. Anderlecht?

        • Geordiegiants

          Yeah. Not sure if we sold or loaned. One of our regular know it alls, like Bobbi or Clarko will let us know in due course I’m sure.

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          • Geordiegiants

            Cheers, saved me having to reply to Bobbinor Clarko 👍

  • Doug Dacre

    Hopefully he has had some of his corners knocked off as he was one of the most arrogant men in sport…….Obvious talent who works hard, just hope he has shrunk his head enough to get it over the tyne bridge, hope so..

    • Mr wobert

      I agree with you, think he would take a cut in wages just to keep getting first team football. I think Krul should go too

  • Ian Duncan

    Who needs Hart we already have 3 better keepers Elliott Darlow and Krul with another waiting in the wings Woodman. With the money to buy Hart and his wage demands we could get possibly 3 of Rafas choice.

    • Peter C

      Couldn’t agree more, other areas of the team are more of a priority

    • Paul Busby

      Not sure I would put Krul ahead of Hart right now, but even with him out of the frame, we still shouldnt be concerned about Goalkeepers anywhere near as much as getting a solid no10 and left back

      • Geordiegiants

        I will bet my last pound, Dummett is first choice left back.

  • Paul Patterson

    Offer £14m and £100k a week.

    • Clarko

      That wage would still be approximately double what we pay anyone else.

  • Jimblag23

    I like Harts passion and the transfer fee isn’t too astronomical, but he isn’t worth those wages.

  • nevfur

    Citeh in a similar situation to us in that the players they need to move on are paid far too much for the clubs who might sign them to afford/ want to pay. Can’t see us even being prepared to pay 100,000 let alone 120,000. Time to move on.

  • Rich Lawson

    Looked suspect in Italy and at fault for both those Scotland goals,we have enough decent keepers already,especially if Elliot can avoid more injuries.

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      I’d agree but it seems clear that Rafa doesn’t rate Darlow or Elliot for that matter as first choice. Krul was back training on Monday but the talk is that a goalkeeper is a Rafa priority even if (I think) the majority of fans would be happy to see one of those three line up in the first team and spend the wages elsewhere.

      I’d be surprised if we went for Hart (i was told we’d actually already signed a keeper) as he’s got at least 6 years in him at the top and we must make room for Freddie Woodman next season to at least get on the bench and to start in 2-3 years.

      • Damon Horner

        1-2 good seasons and he could be sold. It’s an option?

      • Rich Lawson

        Agree with you about Woodman Bobbi,he had a marvelous tournament and looks far to good a prospect to lose.

  • Steve Pearce

    This is now stale news as Man City won’t loan Mr Head and Shoulders out,,,,

  • Belfast Toon

    Maybe worth 8M at a stretch but can’t see the wages being anywhere near 120K. I’m comfortable with Elliott & Darlow, spend the money in the back 4. Unfortunately I don’t see Dummett as being PL standard.

  • hetonmag

    Wouldn’t touch him never rated him as a top keeper and would be surprised if anyone took a punt at the prices quoted. I think Rafa is correct in wanting a new keeper tho because IMO Elliot is not agile enough I think that injury he had has left its mark, and Darlow never looks comfortable.

  • Down Under Mag

    I don’t think a keeper is a priority personally, but if Rafa isn’t happy then we should trust him…perhaps he is simply trying to build the club from the back and make us a solid defensive team and requires a more senior figure between the posts.

  • Desree

    Not happening.