Last season saw Adam Armstrong hit an impressive 20 League goals in 38 starts (2 as a sub) when playing for Coventry in his first ever full season of senior football.

Newcastle wanted to see him progress and try a loan at a higher level and so it was Barnsley in the Championship,

For Adam Armstrong himself, he has predictably found it tougher to score goals but still has had a lot of regular football, the striker starting 21 Championship matches and coming off the bench in another 13.

At 20 years old, Adam Armstrong is the one player of this generation that Newcastle fans generally think could be the one to make it – but what do Barnsley fans think after watching him in 34 of their 45 Championship matches?

To be honest I was very surprised at most of the comments and shocked by some of them.

A couple of Barnsley fans comment that they would want Armstrong back but the vast majority below, say that they don’t.

More worrying are those who question his effort/workrate this season – hopefully that’s just a misconception and as one other supporter says, being asked to play as a lone striker was too tough a call for Adam Armstrong.

One thing that does look clear is that while some of the comments from Barnsley fans may be over the top in saying Armstrong would struggle in the Championship next season, it certainly doesn’t sound as if he is anywhere near ready for Newcastle’s Premier League campaign starting in August.

Barnsley fans comment on Adam Armstrong contribution this season via their top BBS Fans Forum Message Board:

‘Thought I’d start a thread on our recent batch of (six this season) loan players and who if any you’d like to see here next season.

Adam Armstrong I don’t think is ready for the championship just yet. So personally wouldn’t have him back but we need some quality strikers asap!


‘Armstrong. – Not impressed, did well in league 1 last season but hasn’t worked for us in the championship don’t want him back next season and don’t think he will be.’

‘Armstrong not currently good enough or what we need. A major disappointment.’

‘Kent & James are non-starters & I wouldn’t want Armstrong or Elder.’

‘Armstrong. Bone idle waste of space who will be remembered as contributing less to our team than Odejayi.’

‘Adam Armstrong is the one player in the squad who’s work rate I would question.

It’s embarrassing how many times he has to let the ball go over his head because he’s not got back onside quick enough.

I can appreciate that he’s been asked to play as a lone striker on occasion, but even in a front 2, the other striker is often the one doing the spade work. He’s a clinical finisher, and technically very good with the ball at his feet.

He’s another that we have little chance of getting, but unlike Matty James, I won’t lose any sleep when Armstrong doesn’t return.’

‘James is the only one I would like to see again and we will have very little chance. The rest have had plenty of time to shine, but not shown enough for what us as a club be that management level or as fans, come to expect from people who put on our club shirt.’

‘I’d love Matty James but as everyone says – he’s out of our reach unfortunately.

I’d like Kent and Armstrong too.

I know many will disagree on Armstrong but he’s only going to get better and will be a very good player and regular scorer in the Premier League in my view.

We may have a chance of getting Armstrong back in my view.’

‘Adam Armstrong – talented but thinks he is better than he is and out of our price range anyway. So no.’

‘Armstrong. – Fast and skilful, but finds himself out of the action in games too much.

Maybe he didn’t have the right big target man type player to play off of. Not sure, but based on this season, would say no. Disappointing season indeed.’

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    Rafa`s teams are set in stone 4-2-3-1 so it looks like another loan deal for him
    then again Rafa leaves, Pardspew returns & Arma`s like a new signing
    thought i`d cheer you lot up

    • Geordiegiants

      No it isn’t, what did he play at Cardiff?

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        99% his set up is 4-2-3-1 & has been at all the clubs he managed

        • Geordiegiants

          Yeah because he uses certain tactics to combat other teams tactics, he has changed it a few times this season, probably a few more than everyone thinks. I have to say though I don’t think it’s worked very often when he has gone for the 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1.

  • Atilla McNamee

    The thoughts of the Barnsley fans reflect the thoughts of club insiders – a player with talent who thinks he’s already made it


    He is still young and will improve. I remember Andy Carroll going on loan to Preston and he struggled to get a game, he came back and done well for us.

    • 1957

      As I said in an earlier conversation, I saw Carroll as a young boy in the junior and reserve levels and even at a young age he had a attitude, was a beast, intimidating the opposition, and always was going to make it. Andy had ability and physical size, Armstrong has ability, its a sad fact but in modern football you have to be an exceptional player, to be a top striker at 5′ 8″…is he that good?

      • NUFCLX

        I think next season will be make or break for him. He needs to be pushing for a place in the team or if he goes out on loan again, he needs to show what he has to offer by banging in the goals. I hope the kid makes it. We are well overdue a good young kid coming through the ranks.

        • Thefootballerwhocouldfly

          We have Lewis Gibson…. However he’s out of contract at the end of the season. Let’s hope his contract is extended rather tha than another one that got away!

  • Wor Lass

    I don`t think the lad`s going to make it. He is an instinctive goal-scorer but his all-round game isn`t good enough. I hope I`m wrong for his sake but he didnt show much when he got some games here and those fan comments are pretty damning.

  • Anita kick up the Hoop

    He’s a footballer not a cross country runner .. he needs to be played in a footballing team off a main striker .. some fans honestly think charging all over the park equates to effort .. players like Sherringham, Bergkamp and Berbatov did their work in the areas that hurt the opposition..

  • 1957

    They will have seen more of him actually playing, than 95% or more of NUFC supporters, so their view is valid.
    In terms of making it at Newcastle, the comments about, playing as a loan striker, not having a target man to play off and his work rate, suggest to me he won’t fit with the Benitez tactical plan, the way Gayle has.

    • MadMag83

      Perhaps he could do with working with Gayle in training and watching how he moves etc.

  • wowski13

    When I’ve seen him play he doesn’t look good enough for the top level. He’s too small and doesn’t possess enough speed/skill to counteract his diminutive stature. I’d sell if we get a decent offer.

    • Burt Humperdink

      You mean like Messi or Kante or Defoe all of whom he is an inch taller than

      • wowski13

        Exactly like them. They all compensate for being small by being quick or extremely talented.

      • wowski13

        They were also established in their clubs respective first teams by 20 years old (Defoe top-scored for West Ham aged 19, Messi was Barcelona’s best player and Kante started 37 league games). I’m not saying Armstrong should be compared to Messi talent wise but if he’s not good enough to be a first team player at a second tier team aged 20 he’s not likely to cut it in the Premier League.

        • NUFCLX

          I think we signed Beardsley from Vancouver when he was 22, he had previously been released by Man U. Not all young players develop at the same rate. Let’s give the lad a chance. The only reason I would want young, potentially good players to leave is if their attitude was bad.

          • wowski13

            There are certainly players who develop later than others, Beardsley and recently someone like Vardy to a lesser extent, but this is exceptionally rare. I certainly hope I’m wrong about Armstrong but I’m far from convinced he has what it takes to succeed at the top. Beardsley was playing regularly for Carlisle at 20 years old I should add, in fact the only place he didn’t star was Man U.

  • Andy Mac

    “Adam Armstrong – talented but thinks he is better than he is and out of our price range anyway. So no”

    Funnily enough I recall the same thing being said about Adam Campbell when he went out on loan. The suggestion was that he considered himself too BBB’ks to worry about working for the team and where is he now ?

  • TubbyMunky

    I’m hopeful he makes it with us. He has the potential, hopefully Rafa will work with him and get him to the level he needs to be at. If we did get Defoe, Arma would learn so much from him.

  • Kazie

    Arma is going to be a star player mark my words…I have so much faith in the lad to make it to the top…I think he should go out on loan to another championship team that would offer him plenty of game time..then the following season he should be premier league ready….And where he would be best suited at…..Because the lad has talent to go all the way.

  • Kazie

    How can the Barnsley fans question Arma’s workrate…the lad works very hard and even the gaffer mentioned how hard he works in training.

  • Mrkgw

    Personally, I think that his time is up at Newcastle.

  • Mark Scott

    Undoubtedly a natural clinical finisher, but the sort of striker who needs to play in the right position and needs service and support. It would be like asking Michael Owen to play as a lone striker at Liverpool …of course it doesn’t work. To that end though I struggle to see how he would fit into Rafa’s tactical formation and on that note it is probably worth sending him off to a Championship club again next season, BUT to someone who is going to suit him more and be challenging at the top of the league. Give the lad a chance, if not to come back and play here but to make a name for himself and keep his career going in the right direction at the least.