‘When does the Rafalution start ?’ Is a question which has been asked on The Mag.

Arguably it is only a media-coined phrase which relates to Rafa’s influence on the fortunes of Newcastle United Football Club. However, it has been jumped on and used a lot by Newcastle United fans for over a year.

Obviously ‘Rafalution’ is a play on words linking Rafa and Revolution and there seems to lie a problem with some due to the hideous influence of Mr. Ashley for the last decade.

Definition(s) of Revolution via the Oxford English Dictionary:

‘A forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favour of a new system.’


‘A dramatic and wide-reaching change in conditions, attitudes, or operation.’

There appears to be a problem with a section of Newcastle fans thinking Rafa is not influencing anything at all whilst Ashley remains the owner of the club, therefore controlling the purse strings and business plan of NUFC. This can be genuinely argued; however, others think the sun shines out of Rafa’s backside.

One way to judge the ‘Rafa affect’ is to decide if Newcastle United is in a better place now than it was 18 months ago.

Back 18 months ago, we had not been relegated yet and of course we could have survived under McClaren (or Rafa, if we had gotten him earlier) – however unlikely that may seem.

We had a poor Premier League team but they were still a Premier League team.

We now have a Championship team and some would argue (Alan Shearer etc) that loads of money needs spent to make us a Premier League team.

So, if Rafa spends and recruits well before August’s kick off, will this mean Rafa has positively influenced NUFC officially – therefore putting us in a better place than before he came here?

Or even then will it depend on results?

It seems like a no-brainer to me and thousands of others that think Rafa has already had a positive effect but it seems others do not…yet.

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  • TheFatController

    We have a more proven manager than 18 months ago

    And I agree with Karen Brady;
    “Mike talked about ‘making your own luck’ but in football you also need a good manager and great players.”

    So yes, if Rafa spends and recruits well we should be better equipped as a club.

  • Soldier

    is it starting soon ?

  • S.G.M.

    So, some do, some don’t. isn’t that obvious?

  • Wor Monga

    What planet have you just came in from sunshine…if you haven’t noticed any change in the mood of the supporters at SJP on a matchday, and the best way to explain this change about the place is to commonly refer to it as a ‘Rafalution’ taking place…

    maybe you didn’t notice the changes in the team from last season also, but they happened anyway…we had good players attracted here from PL clubs some of whom turned out to be our stand out performers all season,and they arrived to take over from a bunch of underperforming ‘so called stars’ who went out the door for a massive club profit…all that change (for the better) was down to one man can you guess who it was…

    …We’ve just seen the owner (Ashley) make a hasty departure from his usual lofty arrogant manner, and publicly announce that Rafa will get all the proceeds from the funds that the club generates, and we’ve seen Rafa happy with this because it’s exactly what he wants, and what’s more Ashley knows precisely what would happen at this club if those conditions weren’t met…

    …but all that really needs to be said is that Rafa would be on his way by now, and then you’d see a real revolution happening at the club, involving, players, supporters, sponsors and staff and it wouldn’t be a happy one like the ‘Rafalution’ we are seeing now!!!

  • Leazes Ender

    Judge the ‘Rafalution’ by the position set for it by the owner in the squad valuation table that you will find on a web sites such as Transfermarkt.

    That is the limit of ambition.

    It wouldn’t have been an issue if the soundbite ‘Rafalution’ was just Ryder speak….. but the club has adopted it as a bit of a con trick to persuade fans that the club is in good hands and football is now at the forefront of thinking….. the slogan is all over SJP and in the programmes…. so it must be a Rafalution….mustn’t it?….

    ….not really…. a ‘Rafalution’ if it is anything is new found ambition….. now here is the question….. ambition isn’t tenth place…. and gradual improvement isn’t a revolution….

    I hope Rafa isn’t sitting back and taking the fans for the mugs they are…. thats Charnleys job!

    • Wor Monga

      Why not let the 50,000 regular attenders, and the up to 8,000 army that will travel away to support the team…worry about being made into mugs?…it stinks of insincerity and hypocrisy coming from you, ‘bluebottle’…a self confessed dickeed,who only goes into the ground when one of those you call a ‘mug’ lends you his season ticket!!!

      • Damon Horner

        I think a fan who lends a mackem his season ticket really is a stupid mug!

  • Wor Lass

    It`s not really a media invention at all. It`s an obvious and inviting play on words that lots of posters on here and the Chronic used right from the off. It reflects everyone`s feelings about getting a manager who is not only proven at the highest level but who is also a good person. – pretty revolutionary by the normal standards of the Ashley “era”.

  • Desree

    The turnaround in 15 months is monumental. Anyone seen a business turn this quickly around?

    • Soldier

      what turnaround Newcastle are £125m down through being relegated
      some turnaround

      • Wor Monga

        I think you got the wrong club there sunshine…that’s the mackem’s by this time next year!!!

        • Soldier

          and that`s us this year £125m down. sunshine

        • HarryHype59

          I hate to break it to you but the club could well be third in the debt league behind Chelsea and Man U. Winning promotion after yet another relegation surely cannot constitute an “amazing turn around” .

          Admittedly we have a strong manager , but his ability to bring in the players needed, will be hamstrung by the loss of TV money for this season.

    • HarryHype59

      What turn around? The debt has increased to 129m this year on the back of yet another relegation.

  • Leazes Ender

    You really have to laugh at some of our fans, they are thick….. after ten years of Ashley they still ‘want to believe’… So everything becomes a sign of redemption by the ugly fat Cockney b*stard….

    …..I’ll say this to you…. you never will get it…. not in a hundred years…. you are ignorant…. and most likeley fat as well.

    • HarryHype59

      In fairness he has made us in to top five club for ….Debt.
      His restructuring of the club finances to 129m could even put us third in the debt league, as our hapless neighbours have reduced their £139m debt by around 20m.

      Numerous fans simply don’t grasp the fiscal implications of losing the TV deal due to yet another relegation. Talk of spending 80m upfront on players is nonsense. The club will struggle to cover the 96m operating costs shown in the 2016 accounts.

  • Down Under Mag

    There doesn’t need to be a Man City style spending spree to be worthwhile for us, just doing what most of us have been asking for would be a huge step forward….and that is letting the club stand on it’s own two feet financially and spend sensible amounts that is sustainable. When you see managers being undermined in the market, money coming in to the club and not being spent as well as revenue areas not exploited because of freebie Sports Direct advertising it does bother me, but last summer when the MANAGER had the reigns ands pent a sensible amount to overhault he squad it was a massive boost. While i’m not saying fatty has changed his colours, if the club continues to be run like this then I am certainly more content and hopeful than I have been for many years here. Obviously sensible spending will still be seen by some as a failure to throw off the Ashley shackles, but Leicester have shown that you don’t need to spend a fortune to be successful and while i’m not ayign we should win the league, we could certainly get back to top half with a good cup run under Rafa with good quality signings that don’t cost the fortune

  • HarryHype59

    Re the question of the ‘Rafalution’ and winning the second tier ‘title’.

    I read a post on another forum which stated.

    “Congratulations to Newcastle on winning the tallest dwarf in the village competition”

    It sums it up for me.

    The aspirations should be so much higher.