Right, this whole plane banner business. First and foremost I think we can all agree that raising money for charity is a good thing and hats off to the Newcastle fans who have organised that. The problem that a lot of Toon fans are having here is, that it seems to be the right gesture done in the wrong way.

As we all remember, last year the mackems flew a plane over St James Park at our final home game of the season with a message reading ‘Auf Wiedersehen Prem’ (see above), having previously sent one over with a similarly pointless message during a derby match.

This sort of stunt has also been seen at Arsenal, Man Utd and others – every single time it’s fallen a bit flat.

The fact is that Sunderland are, by any metric, a smaller, less important club than Newcastle United, just as Sunderland as a town is a smaller, less important town than Newcastle Upon Tyne.

By copying (and it would be copying) the same crass stunt pulled by the great unwashed we are absolutely lowering ourselves to their level. In a way it harks back to that analogy of the Tyne/Wear rivalry being two bald men fighting over a comb and until someone rises above it that’s the way it will remain.

It’s our job as the bigger club to do this and until we do, we’re going to be stuck scrubbing around in the dirt trying to convince people that we’re more than what we actually are.

What we have here is a perfect opportunity to do just that. There is a big pot of money there at the time of writing, about £900 raised for the plane and the same amount again for Bradley Lowery and others.

Many Newcastle fans would say that it’s crazy to waste the £900 on a flyover when we could put all that money into the hands of people who really need it. Yes, the money has been raised on the pretext of doing the flyover but would anyone really mind if the people who have worked so hard to raise it, turned around and said ‘You know what, we’re going to cancel the plane and give it all to charity’?

It’s a potential win win situation for Newcastle fans.

It makes the mackems look bad for wasting all that money on what amounted to nothing more than a pointless stunt and it makes us look good by raising a large sum of money for some very very sick children. It breaks the small time mentality.

The fact is that we are the bigger and better club and it’s about time we started acting like it.

(All contributions from Newcastle fans welcome, send articles (as well as ideas/suggestions) to [email protected])

  • Geordie-7676

    Could not agree more!

  • Double Carpet

    Spot on. Agree 100%. Let’s not stoop to the levels of those from the Village of the Damned.

  • Leicester Mag

    Pointless not even original or funny

  • Simon Cochrane

    The bloke who is organising it all is going to go ahead with it regardless of what anyone thinks. What worries me even more is that I have read him describe himself as thick as mince and admits spelling isn’t his strong point when someone asked him to at least spell the message properly. I dread to think what we may end up with here.

    • Gary Linney

      If he’s that sort ,well we know he’s going to do it regardless… but I hope he doesn’t …by the way, he doesn’t punch horses too, does he?

      • Simon Cochrane

        I don’t know about punching a horse but his mate was threatening to “pay a visit” to someone who disagreed with the idea. Not sure if that would prove owt like.

        Don’t get me wrong though i think raising money for charity is wonderful but the amount raised without spending it on a bloody plane would be 900 quid higher, and I hate the fact that this will be seen as representative of ALL Newcastle supporters.

  • Mayor Vaughn

    Just forget them, they are an irrelevance, hopefully for a long time.

  • Gary Linney

    FORGET THE WHOLE IDEA… the stunt just isn’t worth it!
    Let’s put our energies in supporting The Lads and not trying to embarrass 5under1and any more than they’ve embarrassed themselves!
    Better still that the money raised should be donated to Charity and tell the media this is how WE do it!
    We’re going up and they and ‘boro are going down.
    Enjoy it!

    IRWT HTL!!!!

  • Andrew Wilson

    I couldn’t agree more, rise above it, send the money to a relevant use … is there a process underway (this article aside) to muster popular support for an alternative?

  • fenhammag

    why not fly a banner over for bradley lowery love from the toon and donate money to him instead of a pointless banner?

  • Jezza

    Yes I agree with every word of this article and have been saying so all along on this forum. Let’s show a bit of class here and rise above the mentality of that idiotic minority of Sunderland fans who enjoyed their biggest celebration since 73 as a result of our relegation.

  • Leazesl Ender

    You can’t just put a daft pun into the air….. it needs to be thought out by someone with a brain…. personally I’d go for….

    …. ROT IN HELL….. its punchy and to the point, and with only nine letters it will be cheap so there’s more for the charity.

    • HappyToons

      Just a picture of a two fingered salute will do…no pun intended1

    • Albert Stubbins

      i like it- How about- What goes around comes around- whilst simultaneously dropping a load of horse S*** on them at the boro v Makem game? we could recycle all the horse S*** from the grand national to show we care for the environment at the same time!!

    • bobbi fleckman

      Well done Leazesl, still keeping the intellectual level at ….well your level.

  • HappyToons


    Ha’ way, where’s your fun. In that case why not give your season ticket money to a homeless person in Byker and spread the lurv? The Sunderland players, unless we forget, earn up to 50K a week, their squad could support many of the homeless or sick children in Sunderland if they each give up 10% of their weekly fortune. In 4 days they earn more than most working class geordies earn in a whole year. Why make me feel guilty as I enjoy the Mackem’s suffering (that is if we do get promoted ;-))

    What next? If we win a derby we don’t celebrate, just to show our class???

    • Jezza

      I will definitely enjoy a quiet chuckle at the expense of the plane hirers and banner hangers but I believe we would be cheapening ourselves by openly celebrating their relegation. It would also be giving the more idiotic element of the Sunderland support a level of credibility they don’t deserve. Don’t give them that satisfaction. Believe me, seeing us celebrate promotion (touch wood) while they have been relegated will be more than enough to leave them feeling distraught.

  • Geordiegiants

    No way, get it up in the air.” Nearly back were they belong “. The third division ha ha.

  • Dave

    Awful. A small time idea which is essentially embarrassing. The same people will be trying to emulate Arsenal fan TV next!

  • Wor Lass

    This guy`s probably one of the ones that got really hot under the collar about the Villa bedsheet. Pathetic waste of money.

  • Jimblag23

    Jesus Christ please don’t fly that plane! Toooooo embarrassing!!!

  • MadMag83

    Forget the banner, just fit the plane with a muck spreader!

  • Albert Stubbins

    How does it make us a bigger and better club by not sorting a plane out? its that kind of arrogance that got us all here in the first place? it would be bloody great fun- does anyone remember good old fashioned fun? This bigger and better is rubbish- will the likes of Man utd and Barcelona recognize us for being a big club by choosing to ignore the antics of them saps down the road? who cares – let’s rub their noses right in it- why? cos it felt horrible when they did it to us a year ago and lets admit it- it would be great to get our own back as we’ve had precious few reasons to celebrate these last few years!!! I’ll gladly fly it if required. SMB

    • Jezza

      It didn’t feel horrible to me when that plane flew over St James’s Park. Yes I was devastated about our relegation but the plane stunt didn’t get to me one bit because unlike the Sunderland fans who hired the plane I could look 12 months ahead. I knew exactly where Sunderland would be at the end of the following season, especially without the 6 points per season we had been gifting them.

      As for rubbing their noses in it, celebrating our own promotion (touch wood) will be more than enough to do that. Believe me there is no need for a plane over the Sunderland ground. Yes, certainly a plane taunting them over their relegation would pee them off but I can think of something that would pee them off even more: No plane. That way they will know that they have got no real relevance to us, that we won’t let them get to us and that we will never need to sink to their pathetic level when their only celebrations are based entirely round the misfortunes of another team. Let’s celebrate our own club and just ignore the more idiotic element of the Sunderland support. Don’t give them the attention they crave. Make it clear that they are nothing to us.

      • Albert Stubbins

        I take your point. But I like many was brought up to dislike them and demonstrate this dislike in any way possible. Unfortunately they do.mean something to me. They are a source of annoyance and I think expressing this in the form of an outpouring of sarcasm is appropriate for me and many others.  They are and will remain our biggest rivals.  Ignoring them like they are some mild irritant isn’t an accurate portrayal of how the majority of fans would think in my opinion. Sent from my Samsung device

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      • bobbi fleckman

        Quite, we say it best when we say nothing at all

  • Martin Gardner

    Get the plane warmed up nowts to good for them smbs. Any chance of a fly-bye ova paedo johnsons cell

  • disqus_GFJ5SSXQ7o

    Totally agree, remember people saying the mackems were all obsessed with NUFC etc etc for doing it. General consensus seemed to be pathetic on their behalf so why go to their level. The bloke organising needs a part time job or something to fill his spare time.

  • Toon Army AZ

    We’re well on our way, but until promotion is assured, this discussion appears premature.

  • nevfur

    Agree 100% with this article. It would be embarrassing. Better to say we thought about it, raised the money then thought better if it and donated the money to charity

    • bobbi fleckman


  • Alan Hilly Hill

    b52 bomber would be better

  • Christopher Dakers

    its why we say SMB because they are SAD! so i agree we don’t need to lower ourselves to their level.

  • Vito Genovese

    What’s it going to say?

  • Steven Brown

    The way the SMBs have acted in regards to both times Newcastle has been relegated, you would have thought that they were the champs of the Premier League. They have been lucky to escape relegation quite a few times in recent seasons and their joy at the expense of Newcastle is ultimately short-lived.

    The banner is a waste of petrol, as most of the SMBs couldn’t spell cat if you spotted them the C and the T……..