There are two things continually thrown at Newcastle United, one is that as soon as we buy a player we are looking to sell for a profit, the other is that we do not have any ambition.

Rob Lee said that he fears we will sell if the new signings have a good season – I have tried to find evidence of this!

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The obvious ones are Cabaye and Debuchy – it was not a case of the club wanting to sell these players but that they wanted to move on.

I concede that the reasons they wanted to leave could be the lack of ambition at the club but was it about us making a profit on them?

I look at these players now – yes they have played in the Champions League and won trophies – but one is now playing for Crystal Palace and the other is second choice at Arsenal!

Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy France

The only other one I can think of where we sold on for a profit is Andy Carroll and I have to say that any club would have sold at the price Liverpool offered, our problem was that we did not spend the money on the players that we needed.

If you ask me would I like to have all three players in our squad now I would say yes but I can see why they were sold and I have to agree with the decision to sell. Saying that, in my opinion Cabaye should have been sold in the summer window not the January one.

I am struggling to find any other players sold, that are evidence of our policy of selling players when we should have kept them!

The other thing we are accused of is lacking ambition and I agree our attitude to the cups is not acceptable, though there is the same reaction when we say that we want to finish in the top 10 – I think that is the top 8 this year.

People say we are only aiming at the top 10 – we should be aiming higher!

Since the Premier League started our average finishing position is 9th – that includes a couple of 2nds, a 3rd, a 4th and a 5th – over the last 10 years our average position is 12th.

Looking at these stats, a finish in the top 8 or 10 is not a bad ambition and people seem to forget the top four places are in the top 10.

The last time I wrote an article for The Mag I was called a ‘stupid old moron’ (in the comments by other fans), those were the actual words used.

I expect more of the same but I for one will be happy with us making an effort in the cups, finishing in the top 10 AND being entertained on the way.



  • Country Vigilante

    Good article Ronnie. No hysterics and a lot of common sense and realism. I’m hoping that this season is the start of something good, fingers crossed!

  • BartonoftheBrow

    First time in years i have a slight feeling of optimism…..i said slight,may be i am delusional,but “if” Penfold keeps this up this window ie,players in,i will be prepared to eat and probably choke on some humble pie.

  • Blackandwhiteblood

    Nice to see a poitive article on here for a change. Well done. However, brace yourself for the usual negativity in respose. No reflection on your article whatsoever. Just some people can’t bear to read anything that’s not criticising the club.

  • Blackandwhiteblood

    BartonoftheBrow takes a bigger man to say he got it wrong than continuing to deny things are changing. Respect.

  • Mal44

    I think part of the problem revolves around the fact that, with a few exceptions, we have continually looked at unproven players who we buy for a low price hoping that they will grow in value, rather than buy quality with a view to building a team for the future. We always seem ready to sell our best players; Pardew continually talked about losing our best players. Of course if bids come in from top clubs and players want to go then then it is difficult though we never seem to fight very hard to keep our best players if there’s bids in for them. This together with our policy of not trying in the cups led to a lot of disallutionment amongst supporters.
    Hopefully we are seeing a change in thinking and direction. Time will tell.

  • Andgeo

    How can you consider this a positive article? Muppets. The accusation of no ambition is based upon £0 investment in the team over a 5 year period. Acquisitions of players like Williamson and gouffran and then persisting with them when they so clearly are not up to the job. This club should be aiming for the top 4. Some of the teams at the top have had substandard seasons over the past few years and had newcastle been taking things seriously a champions league place could have been a possibility, similarly a cup could have been won. We have lost 5 years of our life as football supporters due to the bad management of out club. If the clubs supporters were all pacifists like you two we would still have pardew at the helm and would be playing in the championship now. Where are you from?

  • ilovemymonkey

    Andgeo and you’ve just proved his point….. It’s fans like you that make the rest of the country think we’re delusional!

  • Andgeo

    Hopefully! The policy has been minimum investment to maintain the income, but as soon has that has been threatened through relegation, boycotts and supporters making the tough decision not to renew season tickets we might now be seeing a change in policy. That said I think Ashley may be now thinking of using the money the club has saved in terms of money in the bank and surplus budget to “invest” but to invest into players with genuine potential for significant resale profit. For example wijnaldum and mitrovic could both double in value very quickly! So invest in players with proven potential, but at reasonable prices, and that’s where we are now.

  • Dubaiexpat

    So far so good this window – certainly a change in direction if not overall policy. Still think we need 3 quality additions to make up for the previous lack of investment but something has changed in the corridors of power and it seems to be a good thing so far. 

    Problem with Ashley is I’m always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

  • Andgeo

    Stick to playing with your monkey!!

  • ilovemymonkey

    @Andgeo oh what a witty well structured comeback…  Well done you…..

  • Malcolm Green

    Finishing 5th to 8th is a reasonable ambition for the club. But regardless of where we finish from 5th to 17th place the aim for next season must be can be improve on that. That certainly didn’t happen when we finished 5th. Our best players will always we subject to bids from higher placed clubs. But we have failed is to sell them on our terms, at the time of our choosing and with a replacement lined up. If the Premiership title is beyond us we must look to try and win a cup. Again no evidence of this so far. What’s the point of supporting a football club if there is no ambition to improve. That’s equally true in the Premiership as in non-league football. The main accusation I would throw at Ashley is has taken away our dreams. 
    We all heard his end of season interview. Shame he didn’t say that 5 years ago. However, actions speak louder than words. The ‘actions’ so far this Summer have been positive but it’s very early days. I’m cautiously optimistic with the emphasis on cautious.

  • LeazesEnder

    I’m not surprised that you found ‘no evidence’ in that bucket where your head resides!

  • Chemical Dave

    How could he have got it wrong if things are changing ?

  • 1957

    I don’t mind buying players with potential with the thought that in two three years time we could sell them for a good profit, the one thing I would ask is that they were replaced with players of equal potential.
    Who knows if McClaren can get the players to gel, better players arrive and in a couple of seasons time we are in and around the top six and really competing in cup competitions, the players we are thinking of may want to stay. No one knows what wil happen but our present coaching set up gives us more chance than the previous shower of arrogant bullies.

  • Chemical Dave

    “Yes they have played in the champions league and won trophies”….hahaha, bet they wished they’d stayed after all ?

  • Chemical Dave

    Spot on, there is nothing whatsoever “deluded” or unreasonable about your post.

  • Ollie Burtons Grandad

    Monkey; so you reckon it’s “delusional” to think that we could try to win a trophy?
    Exactly why is that?
    Go on try to post something constructive instead of just childish abuse. First impression is that you are another alter ego of this boards Wongamen.

  • wor monga

    What you have written is exactly right, and therefore the usual
    moaners will try and drown you out with their snide comments…making out that
    they speak for the majority of Toon fans, when in reality it’s no more than a
    handful who monitor the site, and congratulate each other each time they slag
    off the club.
    …We got a better all-round FB with Janmaat…but didn’t replace Cabaye
    with a player who could slot straight in and do the job that he’d been
    doing…with disastrous results…Carroll wasn’t worth half of what was paid for
    him, and that has gone down as the best and worst transfer deal in history.
    …We’ve got a decent coaching set up in place, at last, and we’re
    bringing in good players now…hopefully with at least another dominant and
    technical CB alongside Mbemba…and who knows, perhaps clearing out the
    deadwood…so let’s have a bit more more positivety, and optimism on here, and
    act like real supporters of a club…for a change!!

  • Demented_Man

    My, the Ashley apologists are full of themselves at the moment.

    The’ll disappear, however, as soon as things turn sour.  Alan Pardew’s Black n White Army anyone?

  • Chemical Dave

    Love the way he uses the term “at last” but has got all self righteous at anyone who questioned the owner for the last eight years :-)

  • wor monga

    Demented_Man      …and people like you can’t wait ‘til it does turn sour…simply to prove
    yourselves right…

  • wor monga

    Chemical Dave           I’ve always said there was only one person responsible for the way the
    club was run down…the man who didn’t allow any proper investment in adequate
    replacements…Ashley…the rest were just scapegoats trying to do their best with
    their hands tied.

    …Pardew wasn’t forced out of the club, he went voluntarily, and Carver
    proved he wasn’t up to the task of motivating, and getting the best out of an
    underperforming group of players.

    …MaClaren knows the modern coaching game as well as any man, and the
    players know he will form them into a capable functioning outfit…do you want
    that to happen or do you want to see it fail so that you can carry on attacking
    the owner?…that’s what you need to ask yourself, toxic!!

  • Demented_Man

    wor monga Demented_Man I don’t need to prove anything mate. On the other hand, you and your fellow happy clappers …

  • wor monga

    Demented_Man       …have to disappear as soon as things turn sour…to prove you right!!

  • Ankles

    Apart from a relatively brief period in the nineties, we have always been a selling club. The main problem has always been that, once the club has developed a nucleus of good players, they have been unwilling to go out and buy to become serious contenders. Its just been verbalized more under Ashley

  • Ollie Burtons Grandad

    “Real supporters”? By that do you mean happy clappy non questioning Wongamen or what?
    I think you will have to accept that eight years of lies and mismanagement of NUFC has caused a lot of us to become somewhat cynical of Fatman.
    No one wants us to fail but let’s see if we get more decent players in and keep a hold of the decent ones we have already.
    Only at the end of this transfer window can we truly judge Fatmans intent.

  • Chemical Dave

    I’d love to attack the owner, preferably with a machete. That said, I hope things are going to improve and the two lads purchased so far are a significant improvement on the usual punts, well done to the people who applied the pressure on the owner, unlike lickspittles like yourself.

  • wor monga

    Chemical Dave         That’s exactly what I’m saying you keep patting yourselves on the back…even
    though neither the “Pardew Out” campaign or your “Ashley Out” campaign has achieved
    any significant results…

    …one left for a job he preferred, and the other isn’t
    going anywhere soon…is he?.

    …People didn’t like what they were paying for…a club that was struggling
    against relegation on the last day of the season, and decided not to renew…that
    makes sense…

    …but the only pressure applied on the owner was purely financial (TV
    money)…that’s what moves and shakes his world…not painted bedsheets, and name calling!!

  • MartynParker

    Ankles i think the label selling club is unfair after all liverpool were a selling club when sterling moved ? were man utd a selling club when ronaldo moved? were chelsea a selling club when luiz moved?the power is with the players now and i do believe that at least 2 of the players mentioned in the article wanted to leave and one went on strike, all clubs are now selling clubs when the player wants to leave look at the trouble man u are having with di maria right now

  • v0ices

    Ollie Burtons Grandad wor monga wont accept anything unless its in favour of Ashley.

  • wor monga

    v0ices           I accepted the content that was written in this article…and nowhere in
    it did it mention that it was in favour of Ashley!!

  • v0ices

    wor monga v0ices however it is very pro ashley.

  • wor monga

    v0ices      When you go to watch them play…do you only see 11 Ashley’s running round
    the field…

    …you’re fixated on something, and like your friend with the machete
    you’re not mature enough to debate football, yet!!

  • Artie Fufkin

    Ollie Burtons Grandad Maybe he means Real Supporters my just fancy travelling the short trip to Sheffield on a Sunday rather than posting on the internet slagging the club off. Just a thought

  • Chemical Dave

    We’ve struggled against relegation in all but three of the seasons he’s been here man you daft old spanker…..and one of them we were already down! Of the other two we did well in one of rhtm and if the other had gone on another six weeks we’d have been dragged into another relegation fight. During those years he’d took punts on various reserves, players with injury or disciplinary problems but at no time as he appeared on TV or invested in players whose career paths have been in the ascendency. No doubt about it, I despise the bloke but not…nearly …..as much as …the likes of you….concur and….Beardsley.

  • Chemical Dave

    Nowt the matter with selling players, its the failure to reinvest that gives people the hump.

  • v0ices

    Artie Fufkin Ollie Burtons Grandad ashley is not the club hes the parasite making it sick.

  • toon tony

    I think the “Ashley Out “and “Pardew Out ” worked. If we didn’t get onPardew’s back do you think he would of left for a “smaller “club, and if we didn’t get on Ashley ‘s back he would have come out at the end of the season stating his intent to “invest “,and start spending serious money? We’re not done yet. …watch this space.

  • Andgeo

    ,Alan pardews black n white army’ or ‘wor mongas black n white army’ ???

  • Andgeo

    Monga is charnley in disguise!!!

  • magpie9

    Malcolm Green  True remember he has only spent about two thirds of the cash he had stashed away last year & had to disclose when accounts were disclosed. There is all the t.v. revenue plus transfer funds he received, other clubs are investing  that cash now trying to improve team while fatty I fear is keeping his under wraps working on ways to keep his grubby paws on it. 8 years of lies cant be forgotten & forgiven by one statement especially as its season ticket renewal time & ulterior motive springs to mind

  • Andgeo

    Monga, I’m sure like everyone else chem Dave just wants the toon to “punch it’s weight” again. With the parasitic mike ashley running the club into the ground we are forces to accept players like Williamson and gouffran in the team. Don’t get carried away with a couple of signings! Significant investment is needed to make up the lost ground inflicted on us by fat mike.

  • Andgeo

    Wor monga….
    Or…
    More wonga?…..
    Or…..
    APBWA…….
    Either way……
    Total [email protected] Pratt!!!!!….

  • Malcolm Green

    magpie9 Yes perhaps leopards can change their spots but you’d want more than a few miaows before you would let it into your living room!

  • peterharper

    Good article Ronnie.
    The Premier League is going to be tighter than ever this year. However we have gone so far and we must buy at least another two centre backs and a left back.
    We desperately need to keep Sissoko. He must have been so disheartened by playing with that shambles and being managed by a bigger shambles. He is a truly superb footballer. Fortunately there appears to be a light at the end of the tunnel. We, at long last, have cause for hope with these excellent signings. Give McClaren our full backing.
    We will finish in the top ten and without dreaming, the top six.
    Howay the lads.

  • Ankles

    MartynParker Ankles Being a selling club is unfair? You have to be kidding me.

  • Ankles

    peterharper In my eyes, one of the biggest crimes a player can commit is to pull on a Newcastle shirt and not give 100%. I don’t care if he thinks the manager  or the rest of the team is shite. He has a long way to go to convince me that he is a “superb” player.

  • Ollie Burtons Grandad

    Artie Fufkin Oh look its another Wongaman account spouting purile drivel.
    So then Mastermind your definition of a “Real Supporter” is one of the 2000 that went to the Sheffield match today then?  Muppet
    No one is “Slagging the club off” or is reading to hard for you; us cynics simply want to wait until the end of the transfer window and see what has happened by then.
    Tool

  • Chemical Dave

    Ollie brutally dissecting the new boy.^^

  • LeazesEnder

    Ankles MartynParker As policy the players brought in were promised United as a stepping stone….. yes we sold players to our detriment through lack of ambition and short term financial expedience…

    … the difference with Ashley is it was planned and deliberate.

    De Jong said on his arrival that he hoped for a couple of good seasons here….. his contract is for  six years…. ending 30.06.2020….

  • NufcToon

    stupid old moron

  • NUFC17

    wor monga Chemical Dave 
    You say Ashley isn’t going anywhere soon, maybe this investment in players is his escape route. Didn’t he say he wasn’t going anywhere before the end of the 2016 season?
    He also said in his Sky interview that he wasn’t going anywhere until we either win something or qualify for CL. 
    With the players coming in we are certainly in a better position to do one or the other.
    So, who knows…

  • NUFC17

    I think you’ll find that Sissoko & Cisse are being touted all over Europe by NUFC.

  • Ollie Burtons Grandad

    Chemical Dave Dont blame Fartie Ufkin its not really his fault; its just that years of drinking meths has addled his brain.
    Fartie wason the same rehab course as me and MorWonga so I should know!

  • Artie Fufkin

    Ollie Burtons Grandad I simply found it ironic that whilst we were playing, you were taking no notice of the match but telling us your words of wisdom about not adding to the squad but had you have popped down to watch the game, you’d have seen a few half decent performances. 

    All I can say is Ollie Burton is going to turn out to a really clever lad with you showing the way.

  • Ollie Burtons Grandad

    Fartie you were not being ironic but attempting to be a smart arse but failed. Of course you were there at the game (in your dreams maybe). You are such a great Toon fan you do not even recognise the name, what an utter tool.
    I notice you failed to reply to the other points I made, too hard for you?
    Stick to being a thick Wongaman, you do that very well.

  • DownUnderMag

    I suspect they wanted to move on because they could get more money elsewhere.  It isn’t just about making a profit on the player transfer fee, but it is about keeping the wages under a certain amount also, which I agree with to a certain extent, but not when it is just paying going rates for players who earn the right to want more than they currently get.  We can’t expect to compete with many clubs like PSG or Man City in terms of wages on offer, but there needs to be a more concerted effort to retain players here than there has been in the past otherwise we never move forward.  Failing that, then it is imperative we get a replacement in as soon as possible, not 18 months later.

  • DownUnderMag

    Ankles we aren’t a selling club any more than other clubs, our problem is that unlike those other clubs we fail to reinvest the money properly – often waiting 6, 12 or even 18 months to eventually get in a replacement.  Liverpool got a huge fee for Torres…did that make them a selling club??  We then got a huge fee from them for Carroll as they looked to get a replacement in straight away.  What did we do?

  • Chemical Dave

    Artie, log off and come back with a new username man, what a simpleton.

  • Chemical Dave

    We avoided relegation on the last day of the season, up until now we’ve bought two players who whilst being an exciting break from the normal punts, are still untried in the premier league. Top six ?

  • Artie Fufkin

    Ollie Burtons Grandad No, no, I wasn’t being ironic, you were unwittingly being ironic in that you were fighting an argument about being a ‘real supporter’ whilst clearly being uninterested in the football that was going on in Sheffield.

    Indeed you are right, simply going to Sheffield is not a sign of being a real fan, indeed, the ‘support’ some in the away end gave to Williamson was quite horrible and miles away from being a supporter.

    Being a real supporter does not exclude those who are unhappy with the way the club has been run. However, willing it to fail in order to justify your rants takes it too far IMHO. 

    Some bright spark accused some on here of making stuff up and subsequently getting angry about it, that’s spot on. The ticketing at Sheffield was a case in point, a home club policy that rewards season ticket holders would be a good thing to most but it gets spun out as some money grabbing move by Mike Ashley. The profits went to charity for crying out loud. 

    As for Ollie Burton, before my time, you can have that one. 

    As for calling me thick, you are unwittingly being ironic again aren’t you.

  • Artie Fufkin

    Chemical Dave Not sure of your point Mr angry.

  • Artie Fufkin

    1957 Exactly, all players use clubs as stepping stones and rightly so, it’s their career. As the club moves up the pecking order, they will want to stay a little longer, the number of clubs that are seen as an improvement will dwindle.

  • Chemical Dave

    Was it the same charity Fraudew donated £100k to ? Would love to know which charity that was !
    As for fans “willing it to fail”, where have you been for the best part of a decade ?

  • Chemical Dave

    Lecturing fans but not knowing who Ollie Burton was ?? Whey aye. I like the Mr angry bit though, you’re spot on there like ;-)

  • v0ices

    Chemical Dave Not knowing who a member of the last time we wons anythings team is surprising but to be fair to the bloke he can let you know anything about the club as long as it makes mike ashley try and look good.

  • Artie Fufkin

    Chemical Dave No, it would be Chris Morgan’s nominated charities:  Wood Children’s Hospice and Weston Park Hospital, along with the Gary Speed Trust.

  • Ankles

    LeazesEnder Ankles MartynParker Call it what you will. The bottom line is we have continually sold our best players over the years rather than build a team around them. That is a selling club.

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    MartynParker Ankles                 as far as i know ALL  clubs by and sell all clubs win all clubs lose all clubs have managers coaches and players 
    etc etc they all have to make money and compete some win some dont itmoves and changes all the time

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    LeazesEnder Ankles MartynParker 
    who promised who its a stepping stone and when show evidence please

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    Ankles LeazesEnder MartynParker 
    not true

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    Demented_Man wor monga 
    that snarling picture suits your persona ya want bone to chew on

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    Andgeo   you will NEVER BE HAPPY

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    wor monga   oh yes the voice of reason …boy are thos doomsday boys gonna have a helluva feast on…humble pie …BEFORE THE SEASON ENDS

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    wor monga Chemical Dave ROCK ON MONGA you nailed it again

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    toon tony no o no
    you made mugs out of every player and all the decent fans
    who paid to see football and got fed a diet of ignorant offensive banners ..
    prais on a banner is fine for someone 
    anything else is ignorant shite

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    Ollie Burtons Grandad  great grandad give the poison a rest will ya
    take up yoga and relax

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    v0ices wor monga  we are pro nufc simples

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    wor monga v0ices  ho ho ho 
    yea love it  spot on 11 Ashleys  ho ho 
    that’s paranoia int nit

  • WAYNEANDCATH1

    v0ices Artie Fufkin Ollie Burtons Grandad 
    ha ha ha your feekin sick mate ya need therapy 
    yuv got an ashley fixation ..hey go to bed

  • Ollie Burtons Grandad

    The only poison here is the rank drivel that you spout. Nothing constructive just constant insults to anyone who differs from your pro Fatman views.
    You are a pathetic individual; most probably an alter ego of one of the other Wongamen.
    It’s a shame the Mods do not delete your account as you are an utter waste of space.