One topic that hasn’t really been discussed by other Newcastle commenters,  is the impact that a proper coaching set-up could have on the ‘fringe’ or ‘blacklisted’ Newcastle players, such as Sylvain Marveaux.

The coaching set-up of Alan Pardew and John Carver was not exactly the best and because of this, many players have been ‘Pardewed.’

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Examples of this are Marveaux, Gouffran and, to a certain extent, Emmanuel Riviere.

All of these players showed great promise when we first signed them but then have been slated by fans for poor performances or have been loaned out. This points to a poor man-management within the old coaching system.

Steve McClaren said that all of the new players are going to get a clean slate to prove themselves and maybe this will be like bringing a whole crop of new signings to St James Park.

We have seen what Marveaux can do at St James’ Park before and it would be amazing to have him at his best the majority of the time. He is an intelligent, skilful little player and I hope that McClaren can get the best out of him.

He would also provide some much-needed creativity to a Newcastle side that has lacked it since Yohan Cabaye’s departure.

The same goes for Riviere, who I think just needs that little bit of confidence to start converting his chances.

We have seen him get into the positions to score and he is a really good build-up player with great pace and can hold the ball up… he just needs to learn to put the ball in the net.

Whilst it is important that Newcastle get players in this year, we must also take into account that the new coaching set-up also have the potential to create a revamped team using the majority of our current squad.

  • Peter Lamb

    He has no choice.We won’t be buying much if any.

  • Hez

    Another article about Pardew on the The Mag website, how boring….

  • beijingbrit

    I would love to see Riviere come good as he seems like an honest player, just not sure he’s up to the required standard to be honest. 
    Marveaux is a good player, and hopefully he will thrive under McClaren.
    The coaching set up certianly seems more impressive now. Let’s hope some fringe players can learn from the new set-up and reignite their careers here. Abeid, Anita, Armstrong (to an extent), Haidara etc.

  • Duke Fame

    I was never in the ‘Pardew Out’ club but Marveaux and HBA were two players with bags of quality but seemed to be out of favour with Pardew.  

    I’m not sure he has been at the training ground yet but would be interesting if he gets another chance.

  • Rowla

    Don’t know if it’s a subconscious attempt to cheer myself (as, like Peter, I just don’t see much coming in terms of quality) but I’ve been saying this for a while. Good coaching goes a long, long way in football, especially when it comes to organising a defence.
    Nothing can hide our need for a big striker though.

  • magpie9

    Just wait a couple of days & we will get McLarens first sanctioned statement which will say Marveaux is like a new signing. One more example of fatty changing his ways?

  • That’s the right attitude – let them prove themselves afresh. Even Gouffran had spurts of skill here and there and I think he *could* have the makings of a decent player if brought along the correct way.

  • JohnyH

    the whole squad suffered under the Pardew and Carver ‘coaching’ regime, but particularly players who showed the potential to improve; Marveaux, Mbyia, HBA, Santon, to name a few. They could have knocked the life out of Messi they were that bad.
    The irony is those that are still at the club will now be held up as the reason why we only need to bring in a few squad players.

  • Steve1221

    Marveaux, Gouffran and Riviere’s failing have nothing to do with Pardew, they’re simply bargain basement players who arent good enough for the Premier League.

  • Kazie23

    Spot on and we need to sell them along with Anita,Colocini,Oberton and Williamson

  • Andgeo

    He is gonna have to because there is no money for new signings!!

  • Andgeo

    Nar, gouffran is definitely [email protected]! Always has been always will be, just like Williamson and oberthing. The three of them should have been released on free’ insult having them at the club.

  • Andgeo

    Pardew out!!

  • Steve1221

    Didn’t seem that way with Cabaye, Ba, Remy, Debuchy, Sissoko. The success stories are sold and the failures are blamed on poor coaching but our success ratio was no worse than the likes of Ferguson or Wenger under Pardew.

  • Phildene

    Sams article is exactly what we’ve been saying. We could be quite surprised at the improvement of a lot of the players in fitness and playing now there’s quality coaching here. McClaren and his staff will put the confidence back into the players who have lost theirs through being ‘Pardewed’. The players may also improve on set pieces, there again they couldn’t be any worse!
    Hopefully we’ll see a team who enjoy playing and start winning matches next season.

  • Phildene

    As was Mibiwa. Another class player whom Pardew couldn’t handle as his man management was non-existent! Pardews training at the training ground was appalling and without any discipline, so we’re finding out now.

  • Chemical Dave

    Dear me, makes you wonder how brolly had been such a failure.

  • Wait and shteve

    And two centre backs!!

  • NIToon

    They will all be like NEW SIGNINGS!!!! What ever a new signing is like, it has been that long ago I have forgot what it’s like.

  • Andgeo

    If we don’t get anyone decent in krul and sissoko will be out before the season kicks off. Krul was promised the club would invest last summer, so he must be pretty peed off.

  • Andgeo

    OMG!!!!!! On what planet was pardews success ratio ever as good as Wenger and Ferguson? Planet plonker?

  • Steve1221

    Obertan, Bebe, Kleberson, Djemba Djemba
    Chamakh, Jeffers, Santos, Reyes
    All more expensive than the players we’re talking about but did they all fail to make it at Man U and Arsenal because they were ‘Fergusoned’ or ‘Wengered’?

  • GToon

    I think SMs first job needs to be to ask Ashley how many players he will be left with at the start of the season. At this rate we won’t have enough for an 11 v 11 practice game. This is actually becoming ridiculous never mind disappointing. Note to Ashley : if you are too tight to sign a player please can you stop getting rid of the ones we have got. It’s isn’t 5 a side next year you know.

  • DownUnderMag

    I think all Riviere needs is to bag a few goals and get his confidence up.  His link up play was actually not that bad, his finishing was awful but you could see he was snatching at chances, unsurprising given the lack of quality delivery he was receiving…it’s a lot easier to feel confident taking a shot when you know it’s one of many chances you will get per game…when you know that might be the one and ONLY chance you will get that game because the rest of the team is awful then it piles even more pressure on an already out of sorts player.
    I am waiting to see how things turn around under McClaren.  Yes we know we need new players, squad improvement as well as strengthening…not easy to see where we will get that from I agree but we will see.  Let’s be fair to him though, some fans are writing him off before the team has even kicked a ball…he needs time.  But in all honesty all he needs to do is be tactically sound, pick players in their preferred position and play tot heir strengths along with have a sense of threat from set pieces and we are immediately looking better than the previous incumbents.  I’m actually really happy, not so much with McClaren, but his backroom staff all look a huge improvement on what we had.  Now all we need to to shift Pedro on (great player but I question his coaching ability, especially for Academy level) and get a new youth coach in with a proven record of improving players.

  • v0ices

    Chemical Dave hes such a wonderful coach he must have been a stunning success at every club he has ever managed.