The question we are asking today is – ‘If Steve McClaren replaced NUFC coaches with his own people would it make a difference?’

The ruling out of Patrick Vieira has apparently left the next Newcastle Manager/Head Coach contest as a one horse race.

The job appears to be there for the taking if the former England and Boro boss wants it.

The news has produced a mixed reaction amongst Newcastle supporters, a lot of that revolving around worrying exactly what improvements can be made if United go Pardew-Carver-McClaren without anything else at the club changing.

A key part of this of course is the coaching team.

We are asking you, if Steve McClaren is allowed to bring in his own coaching team instead of Carver, Stone, Woodman etc, would it make you more confident of the appointment being a success, less confident, or it makes no difference?

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  • jack1x

    It wouldn’t make any difference if he brought own coaching staff. He isn’t a good manager , only another pardew , nothing will change at Newcastle until ownership changes , and people with ambition come in

  • Sickandtiredstill

    I’d say it doesn’t change much if players are still bought and sold by someone else.

    If that changed also – we wouldn’t have to be asked about a McClaren as others (like Vieira etc) would be far more inclined to give us a go.

  • Wallsendstu

    I think the poor performance of the coaching staff over the last few years has proved they are not good enough. Take as an example every free kick which is out of range of a shot at goal gets lumped up to the centre half to head back. As far as I can remember it never worked but was always used. Then came the Carver head coach situationand we all know how that turned out. If McClaren is strong enough to put them in their place it might work, however it does not excite anyone or make them believe that it will. A clean sweep is needed, it looks like it is McClaren that will get the job. As always the cosideration of the fans will not be taken into account as in Penfolds eyes he is right and everyone else is wrong. Carr is pushing for it to happen and he in my opinion has far too much input so it is a case of sod the rest. If McClaren came with his own team then he would be in a position to put his own stamp on things, players would experience different methods in training etc. It may not be the choice of the fans and under this regime it never will be. I don’t believe in panning the bloke before he arrives as it is a chance to manage a club with massive support, he also will have a mortgage and bills to pay (yes I know he will have made lots of money but he will have lived the lifestyle to go with it and his expenses will be just as high, as an example you still don’t get many miles per gallon in a Bentley). Like all the former managers have said if he gets it right he will be hailed as a ledgend, if he gets it wrong he will lambasted. We know we are getting him so lets see what he does before jumping on him.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    Wallsendstu The bloke is another one to apparently come here under this stinking Ashley model. Why shouldn’t we jump on him, as all he is doing is ensuring the very same plans remain in place.

    You accept him or anyone else appointed under this ‘model’ then you are accepting the regime and how they do things. That’s as simple as it gets.

  • Ashleyout

    Well who’d have guessed it, Mclaren gets the job, Surprise Surprise…. It makes me sick to support this club these days..
    Our only hope is that he gets rid of Carver and his muppets and brings in some proper coaching staff and who knows we may even score from a corner sometime…

  • partworntyres

    the most embarrassing appointment would be carver, mclaren is the next most. he has made a t.t of himself regularly and achieved very little. the real measure is that no decent club in the uk has considered talking him.
    against the odds he might be a huge success, (with or without his cronies) or more likely the humiliation of nufc will continue.

  • A lex

    Given that the title is “Head Coach”, it doesn’t really matter who the coaching team is, the coaching style and tactics will still come from the main man.
    And I certainly don’t get excited about what new entertaining ideas McClaren will impart.
    Notwithstanding this, any new manager in any walk of life should have a known and trusted team around him. If McClaren accepts the existing set-up, to me it just shows his willingness to go along with whatever hand he is dealt. No change there,; then.

  • partworntyres

    just saw a news headline ‘mclaren should be able to achieve this at newcastle’. 
    the only image that came to mind was a 30% erection.

  • A lex

    If McClaren comes, then a horse to the tune of about £60m+ (net) of 6 players ready to hit the runway running is bolted on, then I might think change is underway.
    In the meantime, I’ll get back to my morning coffee.

  • Wallsendstu

    So what you are saying is that you would feel the same about any manager even the likes of Vieira because they are willing to work for the fatman and Penfold? We all know the regime stinks and needs to go. The unfortunate thing is he has told us he is going nowhere and until he does nothing will change. There will always be bums on seats and the only way he would listen is if the stadium was constantly empty but we know that won’t happen. I won’t give him or anything he is involved with a penny of my money and haven’t since he has been here. I have friends who still go to the game but that is their personal choice as is mine to not pan the guy before he has even started you can if you wish as like would be very dull if we all liked the same things and sites like this wouldn’t exist.

  • tino o

    They haven’t even tried to replace pardew their hope was carver would do ok. This crew treat this club with total contempt. There are a few clubs looking for managers at the moment none apart from us are looking at mclaren. He is a disaster waiting to happen I’m sick of having to settle for the cheapest option. There is no ambition to take this club forward a club that has more potential than most with the most loyal fans in the country who are tested year after year. Until the parasite has gone it will be one big struggle. Ashley out! !

  • Sickandtiredstill

    Wallsendstu No. What I actually said was him/someone coming under exactly the same failed model we have been subjected to for 8 years. 
    Anyone buying into that is part of the problem, not a solution.

  • A lex

    By all accounts, Vieira refused to consider working under such controls, so that’s irrelevant.
    As for him going nowhere, don’t believe that for one second. It might need stupid money, but if anyone gives Ashley a satisfactory offer at any time, he’d take it.

  • Paul Patterson

    A lex  And if we keep the same structure at the club in place . .

  • Wallsendstu

    It is all ‘ifs and buts’ where would the silly money come from? The present is that the clowns look to have two candidates Carver or McClaren no matter what fans say the regime won’t change their minds we will be stuck with whoever they choose. I don’t like the choices but know that it doesn’t matter what I think as I am not the one making the decision. I do however know that personaly I won’t pan the guy just the same as I won’t anyone who wishes to do so it is personal choice.

  • A lex

    We think the same – don’t worry. I’m not wanting to pan him either really, but this ain’t the thoroughbred Ashley implied in his speech. The fact that Derby fans and the rest of football aren’t exactly shouting “Wow, lucky Mags!” says it all.
    As for silly money, it’s all relative. It could be argued that Ashley paid silly money 8; years ago for us. Reports this morning state that the EPL has never looked a better investment ever than it does now. It just needs an offer in Ashley’s zone to tempt him anytime. I want to sell my house in 2 years time but if someone made me a cracking offer today, I’d take it.

  • TonnekToon

    tino o That’s a valid point about other Clubs ,  otherwise we wouldn’t even get a sniff . We’ll probably end up with him because he’ll happily fall in with fatty as he’s probably desperate for the job now . ( After two knock backs to the Club.)

  • TonnekToon

    The only benefit of him having his own backroom staff I can see at the moment , is that hopefully we’d see the back of J.C. ,Stonesy & Woodman . That’s got to be a big plus .

  • alreet

    Anything to get the dead wood out would do me. The closest carver and his crew need to be is at home watching sky sports.

  • wivawova

    If they include Eric Steele, then that’s a real positive.

  • Gallowgate82

    Whoever he works with and whatever happens we as fans need to get behind him and support the team for the whole season and see what happens if were still utterly rubbish by next May then call for his head but not until then. I firmly believe he is a good manager and you do not win a league in any country without being able to organize and motivate your team. You just have to hope that he gets a good amount of finacial back up from the board which by all accounts he will…..Time to be positive.

  • Ollie Burtons Grandad

    Seeing as McClown the Failure and his “Coaching Team” managed to get Derby to a fantastic 8th position in the Championship they are probably on a par with the shite we already have.
    Can’t see the Fatman wanting to play and compo so I reckon it’s the Clown and Carver. Jesus what a pair of useless [email protected]

  • A lex

    If he has at least half a dozen new EPL quality players who can perform from Day 1, we’ll give him plenty of time.
    If he’s saddled with the current squad plus some cheapies from France, we know it’s all a stitch-up and McLaren is part of it.
    It won’t take long to find out which one it is – certainly well before next May.

  • jack1x

    So your telling me you’ll get behind McLaren ?., you’ll get behind this regime , supporters have got behind this regime for seven years , how long will it take you to see , no matter who this regime puts as manager , coach ,is always the cheap option , the option of survival , and survival is just not good enough for a club the size of Newcastle , there is no ambition , when will you see this , when the cup comes around next year , see what team is put out , How long do we have to wait , , another season and another season .and so on ,

  • Gordonthetoony

    What if he brought in his own coaches, they haven’t exactly set the world on fire seeing as he’s been bulleted by hsi last 4 clubs.

  • Gallowgate82

    I’ve been getting behind the team for 37 years through thin and thin and that’s what is special about Newcastle supporters …clearly that is now starting to change but you need to accept that you support a second rate club or walk away its entirely your choice . But if you are going to call yourself a fan then you need to forget ball the other crap and get behind the lads because that’s all that matters when you’ve spent a lifetime supportingbthe Room and haven’t won a bean

  • jack1x

    I’ve been going to Newcastle since 1859. My fist Marc with a friend and his dad when I was 8 , in the leazes end , even.seen them win a trophy , seen the good and seen the bad , but never as bad as the regime that’s in place now , and I include Westwood. And mckeag in that , What you gonna do , follow them like sheep ? you put up with this dross and nothing will change , if your happy with what your watching , Ashley Will be happy to just continue in the same vein , do you not want change ? Do you not want ambition , , it’s time to stand up

  • jack1x

    And it’s second rate , because we do nothing about it

  • GToon

    Haha, laughed out loud at this then remembered the computer monitoring system at work will have picked up just the words 30 percent erection. How can I explain that one away!! Still funny though.

  • Gallowgate82

    There is nothing you can do about it you do not own the club other than walk away you’re stuck with it as proved this season he won’t sell or do what you want he clearly isn’t bothered by people calling him a FCB . I haven’t owned a season ticket since the Keegan second coming and vowed not to buy a shirt or a ticket until he is gone so I’ve done my bit but I still passionately stream the match for free. To many still go and as long as that is the case he will still be there but shaking your red Ashley out card and all that crap makes no difference and you are fooling yourself if you believe it does. What I am saying is if you are going to go to the match you need to support the team as best you can for the period that the game is on and when the players have left the pitch you can scream whatever you want anything else is not being a Newcastle United fan .

  • partworntyres

    GToon
    sorry G Toon!

  • v0ices

    Gallowgate82 so support ashleys sucking the life blood out of the club for another year? baaaaaaaaa

  • v0ices

    Gallowgate82 its only a second rate club because people allow it to be. you call yourself a fan condoning the destruction of the club? muppet.