When you read what I have said below you may well say it’s ridiculous, that in the day of big money football that it is impossible for Newcastle fans to have a say in the club, let alone have any real power or ownership. Obviously this is hypothetical but could it work?

Newcastle United is profitable, with the new TV deal it could be very profitable, but long-term there is no path to improvement in the league. Honestly, it is just a case of going through the motions till Mike Ashley either leaves or decides he wants a team that can compete for trophies and get into the Champion League.

Maybe he has done the latter and that is why he wants Rangers, he knows it would take too much for Newcastle to be a top 4 team and he wants to get both the exposure from the Premier league and the Champions League without a great cost.

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Well maybe instead he can take over Rangers and the fans of Newcastle United can take over the club, How?  Well, as I say Newcastle are now very profitable and a deal would need to be struck in the hundreds of millions but we could do that, but I’m not talking about us all donating that kind of amount or anything like that. I’m an optimist, I’m not deluded.

What I’m talking about is a long-term deal to the tune of £40m at the end of each season, for 10 seasons, or even £30m for 15 years, providing the club don’t get relegated. Maybe even £25m for 20 years, Ashley could get up to £500m out of the club, a greater amount than he could sell it for up front. As a bonus, or part of an overall deal, Sports Direct could have free shirt sponsorship for the first X years.

The question is, is that a worthwhile deal for the club?

I would say yes, the truth is the fans have been crying out for a say in the club, to make a difference, this could be it. A deal for the betterment of the club, for the fans and maybe even for the league, A deal allowing Newcastle United to become the club we all know it can be and allow us to finally have a little bit peace of mind that whatever those in charge are doing, it is for the good of the club.

However, this will likely never happen, which is a shame. I wish it could, I wish it would, I may be optimistic but as I said I’m not deluded. I know this is near impossible but I know there are those with greater minds than mine.

I write this not for my own interest, not to say it is impossible, but in the hope of motivating one of them to take on my idea and form it into a real plan, a real possibility, and to provide a hope to the hopeless of Newcastle United.

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  • NUFC9

    It looks like Ashley will be making a profit this year of around £50m.  In future this is likely to continue or rise with the increased TV money (and on-going sales of our best players coupled with limited transfer spending). I don’t see why he would give up £50m+ per year indefinitely in return for £40m per year for 10 years?

  • Sickandtiredstill

    With 90% of his SD staff employed on zero hours contracts and business acumen built on trampling the opposition into submission, I wonder why on earth you would think Ashley would consider doing us any favours at all? 
    He bans the press when it suits him and won’t engage supporters in any way and yet you wonder if he would sell the club to us or anyone else, using a installment plan? 25 mil a year is chicken feed to him and would of course be worth substantially less over the course of 20 years or whatever.
    Rangers by comparison have supporter shareholders, yet even they can only muster 1.6% of the shareholding of  the club.
    Fatty is here to stay or until someone comes up with whatever figure he wants. Our only optimism in that regard is that (his ‘loan’ withstanding) the club is seemingly on a financial footing capable of attracting investors now, especially with the bonanza of tv money ahead.

  • MilitantGeordie

    He’s going to keep the club until we get relegated and spend a couple of years there or perhaps drop to division one. Once the money dries up and the fans start walking away the parasite will sell the club if it’s worth a meaningful amount to his wallet. If not he will put the club into administration and recover as much of the so called debt the club owes him out of spite for the fans. This might not happen for many years if the  bare bones squad can keep surviving the drop but that’s the future of Newcastle United under Ashley in my opinion.

  • wor monga

    From a similar article yesterday I noticed the replies
    seemed to be saying that the only thing that will force Ashley to sell up and
    go is by keep giving him a lot of bad publicity, like we see on this site every
    day…

    Well that may be the case, but all I can see is him getting
    richer…and richer by the day…despite all the bad publicity.

    When he bought the club in, 2007 it was said his wealth was
    something like £1.5bn…and after 7 years of bad publicity it’s now said to be
    around £4.0bn…in other words he has been coining it in ever since…even his
    debts here have been paid off in full… yet they’re still to be paid at some
    future date…

    Get it in your heads…Ashley is not going anywhere…neither to
    poor hard up Rangers (Ha.Ha. that’s a good one)…or anywhere else…and the new TV
    deal guarantees that this is where the real money is

    …in fact the Golden Goose
    has landed for him…and you could even say that he won all the lotteries at once,
    and that Shepherd and Hall bought him the ticket!!!

  • LeazesEnder

    wor monga So your’e saying someone has to bump him off?

  • LeazesEnder

    Once we take over we could sue Sports Direct for 8 years of unpaid advertising…and pay Ashley off with that!

  • Paul Patterson

    Pure fantasy.
    It’s £99m (For the club that finishes bottom) in 2016/17. So who in their right mind would give that up?
    So if you look at Ashley getting £100m+ on minimal spend, why would he dream of selling the club, even for the estimated £250m? Three seasons will make him that. And if the club finish mid-table it will likely be nearer £120m so there is no incentive to actually be competitive anymore.
    Thats were the TV deal is screwing up the game.
    Like it or lump it, were stuck . .

  • wor monga

    LeazesEnder wor monga     No…I’m saying…what I’ve just said…either follow the club for
    better or worse, or pack it in and find something else to do…but logics tell me
    that things aren’t going to change dramatically despite any amount of bad
    publicity…or crowd numbers falling off.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    wor monga LeazesEnder Can’t agree with you on this.
    Ashley is no longer a lone ranger – SD is a public listed company and has City institutional investors as well as other shareholders.
    He might laugh it all off but I am not at all sure the rest do, or will continue to do so. He wouldn’t be the first majority shareholder in history to be booted off his own Board you know.
    As for going – that’s what keeps him here more than anything. No matter what he did, or what he does, people just keep going. Once that penny dropped in his head, he knew he had free rein.

  • wor monga

    Paul Patterson      Agree entirely with you Paul…the only thing that can
    possibly affect our future outcome is if the TV companies are allowed a greater
    say in the way the increased finances must be used to improve their World Wide
    viewing audience, i,e by forcing clubs like ours to bring in more (and better)
    players from oversees .

  • SusanCommon

    good stuff and possibly some figureheads supporting this project such as shearer, and and dec who will back it with initial millions and a staggered plan like you say. its about time ashley gave something back. is it possible NEVER SAY NEVER…….

  • wor monga

    Sickandtiredstill wor monga LeazesEnder 
    You don’t have to agree with me, and I’m not interested in
    the affairs of SD…the overriding factor concerning me here is the money coming
    into the club from SKY…which far outweighs the money coming in from the gate
    receipts, and that means nowadays, where the PL is concerned the fan going to
    the game is no longer ‘king’.

    If necessary Ashley will accept losses on the gate…and make
    it up with cheap offers, etc…to ensure the crowd will always be there!!!

  • Sickandtiredstill

    wor monga Sickandtiredstill LeazesEnder
    Don’t you think you should be interested? It is after all a business which benefits from NUFC and pays nothing for the enormous exposure and retail profits from the club. And all for free.
    If you think the fan is no longer important, well just envisage how popular tv coverage would be in a silent half empty stadium.

  • wor monga

    Sickandtiredstill wor monga LeazesEnder     ….The TV coverage will not focus on the crowd, and the
    atmosphere will be filtered out…people watching in China/ India or wherever
    want to see the game and the result… not the fuzzy faces in the background…

    the
    chances are most of them couldn’t give a flying fu*k about the Toon…but Ashley
    won’t take a chance on that happening, and he will fill the place with cheap
    offers if necessary…

    ’buy a pair of trainers, and see Man Utd at SJP’ get the
    picture?

  • Sickandtiredstill

    wor monga Sickandtiredstill LeazesEnder
    I certainly get the picture.
    But it’s been close to a morgue the last couple of home games. Lose more of the established support and the club will need to hand out song sheets to the newbies.
    If you think no one overseas looks at or listens to the crowd then I would guess you haven’t traveled much. Most places the fans are just as vocal as the homegrown variety, if not more on some occasions.

  • LeazesEnder

    Sickandtiredstill wor monga LeazesEnder A bullet will be quickest and most humane….

  • GR1125

    Like Life of Brian, we need a Messiah to tell us what to do. Don’t laugh, I’m as guilty as anyone by keep attending but it’s what I’ve done with my mates for 45 years so it’s difficult to stop……
    The supporters need someone to take up the reins of revolt & become the Messiah. We are all guilty of not doing enough & just give Ashley an easy life. It’s probably due to having been battered by this club for many years that most of the fight has gone from the supporters.
    I somehow doubt that Rangers fans will give him such an easy ride. The venom often coming from our away support towards him (Leicester) gladdens the heart & however thick skinned & greedy he is will make him uncomfortable. This venom however is rare at home matches so he remains comfortable. 
    Numerous ideas have been tried at home matches but have failed due to majority support.
    That’s not to say fan power doesn’t effect things, I’m sure it can. I get sick of other fans saying, ”I don’t know why you put up with him” but we do.
    The minutes round of applause is the only thing that all fans seem to support.
    The season is finished, everyone is just going through the motions.
    Why don’t everyone walk out at the conclusion of the round of applause & have a good afternoon in the Toon. It would undoubtedly result in huge publicity.
    If only there was a Messiah who everyone respected (there are a few who remain quiet) to bring the fans together & embarrass the club. A mere fan like me is never going to be able to do it.
    We’ve got to try something; doing nothing isn’t an option.

  • Porciestreet

    Paul Patterson We are only stuck because a few good men do absolutely NOTHING……!

  • Porciestreet

    LeazesEnder wor monga 
    And no-ones thought of that one before…….Yeh, right.

  • Porciestreet

    Sickandtiredstill wor monga LeazesEnder 
    Steve Jobs springs to mind, and look how that turned out.

  • Porciestreet

    wor monga Sickandtiredstill LeazesEnder 
    But if gates receded considerably, TV companies would think twice about scheduling such clubs. And that my friend is the crux of the matter, too many good men doing absolutely nothing because they don’t want to compromise their ST.

  • Porciestreet

    LeazesEnder Sickandtiredstill wor monga 
    Carefull son, your being monitored,should he cop for one, they’ll be on you like a dose mate.

  • Porciestreet

    LeazesEnder wor monga 
    Just a thought but why arn’t replies tagged to the posts we reply to, or is this  just another way of sanctioning the fans…?

  • Porciestreet

    Sickandtiredstill 
    A spot of powdered glass in his half-time Leibfraumilch would do it..!

  • Toon69

    wor monga  Ashley’s wealth doesn’t come from the club, it comes from owning 55% of SD, the company which is worth approx. £6b, that’s why’s he’s estimated at being worth £3.5b. Just lately he’s being cashing in shares in his company to get cash for other things like buying Rangers or other things, so he’s not actually cash rich, he’s paper rich!!!

  • newcastle7

    Like I have said before Ashley has not taken a penny out of our club in wages or dividends and if the club moves into profitability its is also unlikely he will take anything out except his interest free loan.
    The last directors took a staggering £145m out Ashley has only put in.

  • Maximus Moose

    newcastle7 where’s the Sky money £74 mill gone then ?

  • Maximus Moose

    LeazesEnder with thinking like that you should work for Mike  

  • Maximus Moose

    LeazesEnder wor monga he travels by helicopter the word is Surface to Air Missiles

  • Phildene

    Sorry but surely you mean you haven’t got the balls to keep away? It’s fans like you who are NOT helping the situation. You say you’ve been going with your mates for 45 years and it’s hard to stop? I find that weak willed and rather appalling. My other half had been going for over 62 years-yes a staggering SIXTY TWO years and had had more than enough so cancelled his season ticket couple of seasons ago, myself likewise. We found sitting in that horrible atmosphere watching dross every home game, plus putting our money into Ashleys pocket was more than enough! Yes we still support the town but from a distance, but to be honest how anyone can sit there knowing where their hard earned cash is going is quite beyond us.
    It’s the 40-50k like yourselves who spoil everything for those who want rid and who are the symptom of the disease and who are no better than ashley themselves. Truth hurts.

  • Phildene

    It’s been more like a morgue for the last couple of YEARS you mean ;)

  • Sickandtiredstill

    newcastle7 ‘Cause you’re a clown. 
    Ashley takes no wages or dividend from SD either. He’s worth close to 4 thousand million quid. Can you even imagine that amount of money?

    Last Directors sold the club, for a profit. They also ensured the stadium you now sit in and the years and teams that people remember. 

    Ashley hasn’t ‘put in’ He bought the club. He bought the assets as well as the debts. His additional funds came as a result of protecting his investment due to being relegated, which was his fault along with Jimenez, Wise, Llambias etc.
    Why do you think he tried to sell the club for only 80 million when we went down?

  • Sickandtiredstill

    Phildene Hey, I’m all for the anti regime movement. More power to it and us.

    But if your other half went to the match for over 62 years, how fookin old was he/she and how old are you? 

    What we don’t need is pretenders of any shape or form.

  • magpie9

    newcastle7  Good stuff you are smoking

  • GR1125

    Hi Phildene. That’s a courageous reply from you as you hide behind your keyboard & is typical of many who just spout insults & negativity. You don’t know anything about me; I post a perfectly valid post & am subject to personal insults! Hilarious!!
    We are all fans otherwise we wouldn’t be reading this site. There is rarely a constructive discussion however as whenever someone posts an ‘idea’ they are invariably slated with negative comments from folks who don’t even put forward anything positive. Ashley would love to see the fans fall out, which we are.
    You must be proud of your ‘man’, having the courage to give up his ticket. What a bloke, you must go around telling people in the street. It’s made a big difference to things. Absolutely no difference in fact. Wasn’t the ‘horrible atmosphere’ just because he was sitting next to you?  
    I didn’t say I was The Messiah, I’m just a bloke who goes to the match.

  • mentalman

    Why didn’t the fans buy the club when Ashley bought it, because we were glad to see the back of the current owners and a new billionaire owner come in.
    The fans can’t even organise a protest without making themselves and every other fan look stupid, what makes you think we’re going to be able to make the decisions on how the club should be run

  • Sickandtiredstill

    mentalman Because the best part of the support couldn’t begin to afford to buy enough shares to make a difference.
    Even rock bottom prices like at Rangers sees only 1.6% of shares in supporters hands.
    We are being made to look more than stupid by the owner and his cronies. No matter what he does people like yourself argue ‘awww, but we can’t do nothing’ – and keep going along.

  • pissed off mag

    at least rangers fans are doing something us mugpies still going in like black and white sheep.
    as long as ashley has the wonga shirt wearing dumbells he will never get out of our club

  • Greggy164

    Ye would need to get yer Granda to leather Llambias. I would love to knock Ashley out

  • Greggy164

    LeazesEnder wor monga  Dont know about bumping him off but I know that Ashley n co will be chased out of Glasgow

  • Greggy164

    GR1125  Why do you let Ashley go to the bully? United belongs to the people of Newcastle. Stand up for yourselves ffs.

    He wont bully the people of Glasgow. Of that Im sure

  • Greggy164

    pissed off mag  Stand up for yourselves. You are letting Ashley rip the hole out of yous.
    He is a bully. Stand up to him bet his bottle crashes. Him n Llambias wont be able to show face in Glasgow shortly never mind attend any games. Theyll be chased

  • Regarding discussions over the merits of a boycott there was an interesting article in Saturdays Guardian by Johnathan Freedland, about the E P L . This paragraph in particular ……….. There was something else too. International viewers liked the look of
    the fans at English games. The cameras would make a point of picking out
    families, women and children especially, along with diverse, non-white
    faces. He mentioned the group of Sikh fans often glimpsed over the
    manager’s shoulder at Old Trafford. Such a happy contrast with the
    Bundesliga, where crowd shots tended to consist of “white, male fans in
    their twenties, usually behind a metal fence”. Far less easy on the TV
    eye. In fact, the fans were so important, the Premier League would
    regularly write to clubs that had dared present a less than packed house
    for a televised match, scolding them for failing to provide a pleasing
    visual backdrop.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    devonbay Exactly the point I and others try to make.
    The PL product being beamed worldwide is as much to with the backdrop of full grounds and fan noise as what takes place on the pitch. That has been stated to be the case by the PL themselves, even if many just refuse to accept facts wherever they come from.
    Rangers are currently getting more publicity for the anti Ashley antics than they are for any footballing reasons. Mike Ashley hates publicity which he cannot control and which may damage the SD brand. Hence another ban on the press up there.
    For those of you talking of ‘our’ club, you had better start accepting there is no ‘ours’ or ‘us’ in any part of Ashley’s equation, except when it comes to how much you’ll spend and a backdrop which ensures SD get maximum exposure in a favourable light.
    He plainly knows finance and business. He and his cronies have shown they know zero about running or building a successful football team.
    If you don’t try and force a change then no change is ever going to happen. Rangers have the right idea right now and good for them for at least giving it a go.
    Here – if you keep going and spend your money then you have to accept you are part of the problem, particularly if you stay silent once in the ground. Anti – Ashley and SD protests, banners etc will do him far more damage than any amount of name calling on fan boards or local press.
    Use the tv against him and at the very least try and force a change in his ownership approach if not the actual ownership itself.

  • 1957 If the ground was empty it wouldn’t take long before the cameras disappeared also.

  • GR1125

    Good points from devonbay & Sickandtired still. Even thick skinned people hate to be made to look a fool, can be embarrassed & made to squirm.
    Boycotting the match is a choice issue & doesn’t really appear to work. The fans money isn’t that important.
    Chanting Anti Ashley songs make a point but are sporadic & can be ignored by the TV.
    I cannot get away from the idea of respecting the 17th minute applause then 40,000+ vacating the ground, live on Sky/BT. This isn’t the Premier League product they want to be seen.
    The season is finished, we’ve wasted our money anyway so walking out isn’t going to hurt our pockets.
    Me putting forward the idea isn’t going to work.
    A Messiah putting forward the idea, perhaps attending SJP & actually leading the walk out a couple of times might just work & cause massive publicity, discussion & embarrassment.
    Who has been treated appallingly by the club but is still hugely respected by the fans?
    Keegan/Shearer?
    Come on lads, stick your head above the parapet like Lineker is starting to do. It could just be what is needed because I just don’t think any ordinary fan has the ability to pull things together. 
    Waiting for the criticism…………………..

  • Sickandtiredstill

    GR1125 I would like to see ex players and local celebs getting involved also, if they genuinely care about the club as some of the articles printed seem to suggest they do.
    The criticism will come from those who can’t be bothered to do anything and simply believe the spin which is put out. You know, the financial stability, steady progress, development is the way forward peeps on here.